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John Fox
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RE: "hot dogs" brands
Sun, 05/18/08 7:38 PM
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quote:Originally posted by Janski
Just a note from the voice of an avid dieter: ME. And I own a dog cart. My personal diet is that of a low-carb type... not low-fat, not low-cal (you can't have it all). I've been ever so successful with this diet over the years, and it allows me to eat REAL food, not some processed wannabe foods.
So, what's on my cart? ALL Beef dogs, not mixed dogs, not turkey or chicken dogs... all beef. I can eat all beef and still eat healthy. My doctor said so! If you are steaming or boiling, I don't think the chicken or turkey dogs hold up as well or as long anyway... they are going to look funky faster too.
What DOESN't work for my diet is BREAD :( I'm wishing that some day someone will come up with a low-carb hot dog bun and I'll be all over that!!!! In the meantime, if I have a dog, I eat one without the bun, cut it up or just bite into it dipping it into my condiments as needed.
Of note: Just because I am on a diet doesn't mean I'm putting items on my cart that only I can eat.... I have things I can't eat, but everyone else can. I make a point of using quality foods that aren't full of fillers and other unknowns... that way if someone asks, I can tell them exactly what kind of real food I'm serving them.
PS: Most folks worried about low-calorie or low-fat foods are not going to look twice at approaching a dog cart anyway... probably because of what UncleVic mentioned... they don't hold up well and don't taste the same.
I haven't personally tried Applegate Farms dogs (sorry), but I do agree that you should clearly list what you are serving so that those who ARE looking for turkey dogs etc will know to look for you... and those who aren't don't get caught off guard. I would think that with those kinds of dogs, though, you would have to grill them to get any positive color, consistency, and taste out of them.
Best of luck to you.
Janski
Janski, You can get low carb hot dog buns here:http://www.lindasdietdelites.com/index.php?manufacturers_id=19
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biker jim
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RE: "hot dogs" brands
Sun, 05/18/08 8:00 PM
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Having eaten at both M.A.'s (the guy serving reindeer on the hot dog program) and at Hot Dougs (finally, last weekend) both of these places are like heaven on a roll for me. I use the same reindeer Michael up in Alaska uses. Tis a treat indeed.
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divefl
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RE: "hot dogs" brands
Sun, 05/18/08 8:35 PM
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quote:Originally posted by John Fox
Don't get me wrong; just because a dog is made from beef or beef and pork doesn't make it good either.
I live for the day that I can know that I can walk up to any of the hundreds of stands in DC and know that I'm getting a great dog. More ofte than not I'm given an all beef piece of crap that I load with more toppings than dog to hide the dog. These people have been making a living at it for years. I don't usually get my ideal from the street meat vendors (there are a few exceptions and I love that some refuse to go over to cheap and easy) but they still have lines. Even bad dogs seem to sell and the idea of a "healthy" dog would probably attract some for that alone. Opening anything right now is tricky but I don't think you would be putting yourself on instant failure footing. The healthy, organic aspect may bring in as many people as it drove away. I the end, if you opened a stand offering the same dog as a stand two blocks away, how does that mean you do better? Take a chance if you can afford it.
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MiamiDon
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RE: "hot dogs" brands
Mon, 05/19/08 7:05 AM
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quote:Originally posted by biker jim
Have none of you heard of about the Salmon Dog at Franktitudes in Miami? It is quite popular because of its low fat, low sodium and good taste. Not sure it is my cup of tea, but the guy is Nationally known for serving it.
FYI, two of the Franktitudes have closed, and it appears that the salmon dog has been dropped from the menu. The choices now are beef, turkey or veggie. I would guess that the Travel Channel people were more in love with the idea of a salmon dog than the public. Perhaps it was a bad example of one.
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biker jim
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RE: "hot dogs" brands
Mon, 05/19/08 8:33 AM
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Ooops. There I go talking out of turn. I think your right. I like the idea of a salmon dog (having grown up in Alaska I loves me some salmon) but not sure they pulled it off. Of course maybe if it was deep fried...
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MiamiDon
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RE: "hot dogs" brands
Mon, 05/19/08 2:13 PM
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quote:Originally posted by biker jim
Ooops. There I go talking out of turn. I think your right. I like the idea of a salmon dog (having grown up in Alaska I loves me some salmon) but not sure they pulled it off. Of course maybe if it was deep fried...
No deep fried; they use a roller grill. I remember reading about your operation online somewhere, and I am sure that I would look you up if I lived in the area. Those exotic sausages sound interesting. I was thinking about this discussion today. If I were to see a pack of chicken and jalapeno sausages, I would be tempted to buy it. Heck, I have some Sun-dried Tomato with Mozzarella and Smoked Turkey and Chicken sausages from Aidell's in the deep freeze. But if I see a label with Turkey Hot Dogs, I jut keep moving. I think that "turkey" or "chicken" hot dogs has become synonymous with a low-rent product, pretty much. I am sure that a gourmet salmon sausage is a good thing. I like smoked/peppered/dried salmon strips, so I guess that ground up in a casing would work. Just no ketchup, please!  P.S. Here is a shot of Biker Jim workin' the grill: 
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PapaJoe8
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RE: "hot dogs" brands
Thu, 05/22/08 2:11 PM
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Two of my grandzillas will not eat a regular dog because of stuff they heard was in them. I bought them some chicken dogs. I treid one and it was not so bad w/ a little Louisiana Hot Sauce.
I sometimes use the turkey sausage in gumbo, and some other recipes, because someone in my family can not eat regular sausage. It works just fine.
Jenny O and Butterball both make some dogs and sausage. I get mixed up on who makes what. The above mentioned sausage and dogs is made by one or the other. It's not fake anything. Just a turkey or chicken kinda thingy.
Will a chicken or turkey dog sell from a cart? Not sure. If I was going to try to sell one it would be made by one of the name brand companies I mentioned. There is for sure some kind of market for what they sell.
Joe
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biker jim
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RE: "hot dogs" brands
Thu, 05/22/08 10:27 PM
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I get people asking for turkey hot dogs pretty frequently. I love the look on their face when I say, "No, but I have pheasant sausage instead." I'm afraid many people don't know what pheasant is. And as creatures of habit fearing change and all, many will walk over to the $1 hot dog guy across the street and have one of those lovely turkey dogs previously discussed. I'm glad he's there to help them with that.
I'm a big fan of ostrich and will make chili and meatloaf (guess I'm using that term loosely)with that stuff often. It is quite a tasty alternative when you just don't want cow.
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Twinwillow
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RE: "hot dogs" brands
Thu, 05/22/08 10:35 PM
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quote:Originally posted by SimonD
Agreed 100%. No one wants a "healthier" hotdog. If I want to eat healthy I'll just skip the hotdog entirely rather than settle for a turkey frank.
Real Hotdogs are made from real beef and that's just how it should be.
Well said. I agree!
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FuwaFuwaUsagi
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RE: "hot dogs" brands
Sat, 05/24/08 8:00 PM
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I just want to thank everyone for the comments. I just picked up various turkey sausages to try out. Some of the Italian sausages are pretty good. BikerJim you have been a god send. Pheasant sausage - man that sounds good.
All the best,
FuwaFuwaUsagi
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John Fox
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RE: "hot dogs" brands
Sun, 05/25/08 7:46 AM
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FuwaFuwaUsagi,
I have to give you credit. You came on here posting your intentions and looking for feedback and took it all in stride. It seems that most people, or at least most people on Roadfood would prefer a traditional hot dog to what you intend to serve. Of course that doesn't mean there isn't a market for what you want to sell. As I said, I've eaten chicken and turkey dogs and don't like them at all. And I like chicken and turkey. I've eaten and enjoyed turkey bacon (though not as much as pork bacon) at least one turkey sausage and a few with chicken. But hot dogs made with these things don't cut it with me. Maybe because I'm used to beef and pork or all beef.
I agree with the posters who say that you should inform customers what they're getting. And maybe include a "traditional hot dog". Good luck.
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MetroplexJim
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RE: "hot dogs" brands
Sun, 05/25/08 7:51 AM
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Nathan's all-beef skinless (the long skinny ones); healthy enough for me.
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MetroplexJim
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RE: "hot dogs" brands
Sun, 05/25/08 8:08 AM
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I just mentioned Nathan's for "healthy" all-beef and didn't mention Pederson's Organics because I didn't know they made "franks". They do. When my wife bought "otganic" Kielbassa home from Whole Foods I "rolled my eyes", but tried it in a kraut casserole. FANTASTIC!  They make the best "colbassy" I've ever tasted and I was born and raised in Pittsburgh. Check 'em out. Aside from Whole Foods, we've also found their products at Market Street here in McKinney and now Allen. http://pedersonsfarms.com/
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leethebard
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RE: "hot dogs" brands
Sun, 05/25/08 8:09 AM
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I'll agree with John here..."Good" to most people on these forums is what they "enjoy" no matter how much some of us differ. And we can't change that!!...So..it's buyer beware...if you let a customer know clearly what they're buying and they buy and they like it, so be it!!! If it sells enough to make a profit...keep doing it. Many of us know things we label "bad food" or "garbage" finds a market out there. One man's garbage is another's delicacy!!!
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MiamiDon
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RE: "hot dogs" brands
Sun, 05/25/08 8:22 AM
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quote:Originally posted by MetroplexJim I just mentioned Nathan's for "healthy" all-beef and didn't mention Pederson's Organics because I didn't know they made "franks". They do. When my wife bought "otganic" Kielbassa home from Whole Foods I "rolled my eyes", but tried it in a kraut casserole. FANTASTIC! They make the best "colbassy" I've ever tasted and I was born and raised in Pittsburgh. Check 'em out. Aside from Whole Foods, we've also found their products at Market Street here in McKinney and now Allen. http://pedersonsfarms.com/ My choice for a healthy hot dog would be Niman Ranch all-natural, no-added-nitrates Fearless Franks.   Kind of a "gourmet" item, as they retail for about $1.50 for each 3-oz. frankfurter.
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