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RE: Shanghai Jimmy's Chili Rice 2006/09/19 18:11:35 (permalink)
Born in OKC - Thanks for the idea of using other beans... I like chili in most forms, including rice as the base that chili is spooned over, but I had not thought of trying other beans... I have always used the standard red beans.... humm... must try with other beans, and if needed for thickening, add refried :-) Sounds great for a new experimet :-)

For my add to this thread, others that have not tried Green Chili, have not challenged their Chili experience :-)

Good thread.

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RE: Shanghai Jimmy's Chili Rice 2006/09/24 02:34:46 (permalink)
PJ8

A chinese chow recipe is cetainly too much to expect from me, after so many years. At one time or another I had two versions. Jimmy served the earlier type at least during the first period he was down town. It was a little like the canned American chop suey you can buy but it had meat which must have been pork and it was less salty and fresher / crisper than canned products. Jimmy may have kept a container of chinese chow in the cooler and heated orders individually in a little sauce pan which would have explained the crispness. I believe that "Archie" in the SMU location had chines chow also.

I may have had the second type of chinese chow only once. I think it was an small amount of stir fry made to order with sauce added. I wish I had watched! That was in one of the later locations. I do not remember if the chow stayed on the menu until the end or if he gave it up as too much trouble.

i would categorize the chow as a pork in brown sauce. Both versions I had were good but, but I've had as good or better since, but NOT in mall or grocery store chinese food stands.

And I think, but am not certain, that one of Jimmy's slogans was "Ding How, Chinese Chow!" Some one else may already have mentioned that. I think it was on the menu.

There was one other "rice over" dish (really over rice, but I used the term seen on some chinese restaurant menus) that I had one time only at the down town location. That was a shrimp creole. Probably it was heated to order also. Availability must have been posted.

One thing about Jimmy that I remember was undoubtedly the result of the time he spent in the Far East: All of the ingredients in the chili, chow, or shrimp creole were in scale with one another, whether sliced or minced or diced. With reference to that creole dish for example, the shrimp were small and the chopped pepper or celery pieces were minute.

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RE: Shanghai Jimmy's Chili Rice 2006/09/24 12:47:18 (permalink)
Casper, there is a "weird things" thread in the chili section here that has lots of creative ideas for making chili. And yes, I love green chile anything. There is lots of stuff here about that also.

OKC, thanks again for the info! I plan to ask the folks who sell chili rice at the State Fair of Texs if they have any info about Jimmy. Jimmy sold chili rice at the fair at some point. I heard this at the dallas history site. Maybe the folks selling it now got the idea from Jimmy? I have a bowl every year but I am sure it is not Jimmy's recipe.
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RE: Shanghai Jimmy's Chili Rice 2006/09/25 05:15:19 (permalink)
I remember having chili rice at the Fair long ago and of course it was Jimmy's then. I keep thinking I'd like to get over to Dallas again and go to the Fair before I get too decrepit. I don't know if that will happen this year or not. I would appreciate it if, after your visit, you would post on this board the best decription of the location you can, including what is next to it and so on.
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RE: Shanghai Jimmy's Chili Rice 2006/09/25 09:59:38 (permalink)



I was first introduced to chili through cans of Hormel with beans. I thought that was the way for it to be made. Even as a kid, I liked the stuff over rice. I think that for many years my understanding is that chili...con carne, translates to chili (beans) with meat. I sort of still do. It's just that I love beans.

I have always considered chili beans with meat, rice and grated cheese to be a complete bowl of all food groups.

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RE: Shanghai Jimmy's Chili Rice 2006/09/25 12:56:03 (permalink)
OKC, I will be glad to give the exact location after I go. I plan on going opening day. If anyone is going before I make the post it is kinda easy to find assuming it is in the same place this year. It has been in the same place since I can remember so odds are it has not moved. Here goes....

If you walk from Big Tex and take a right twords the AG building, the Ag is on the left and there is anouther big building on the right. There is a restaurand that takes up the whole front of that building. If you walk into the building the place that has the chili rice is just a short way down and on the left. Sorry I can't remember the name of that building!
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RE: Shanghai Jimmy's Chili Rice 2006/09/30 12:02:05 (permalink)
Ok, the pretty good chili rice is in the Embarkadero Bldg. "The Dock" reataurant is at the front of the building and the chili place is about 100 ft. inside on the left. I did not get to have any. Shoot, now I have to go back! They have been selling chili rice for as long as I can remember and it always tasts the same. I asked he 3 folks working on opening day if they had hear of Jimmy but they hadn't. I was hoping whoever owned that place would be there but no suck luck.

They also sell chili rice at the "Chili Parlor" in the main food building. I had a foot long chili dog and a Shiner daft there but no chili rice. That footlong kinda filled me up. They have onions and jalapenos so you can put em on yourself. I loaded up on both. The dog itself is not that great but the total deal was pretty good.
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RE: Shanghai Jimmy's Chili Rice 2006/09/30 13:37:17 (permalink)
Thank you Joe.
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RE: Shanghai Jimmy's Chili Rice 2006/11/08 14:22:58 (permalink)
There are a few more things to learn about Shanghai Jimmy. One story about Christmas at Wake Island comes up if you google it "shanghai jimmy" wake island. No one knows why China let Jimmy serve Christmas dinned to the US prisoners of war, but they did. There is more mention of this other places that I can't remember.

There is a neat story on the web about what may have been the largest pot of chili ever cooked but I couldn't find it today. It was done by Jimmy and a car lot opening. Real funny story!

The recipe off Jimmy's LP record is at dallashistory,org somewhere, and at the dirtrider.com forum. Someone smarter at moving things might put it here? Is Jimmy the only one to make a record about a chili recipe, maybe?

OKC... MSG? Might Jimmy have used Badia Adobo? It has MSG. I know, no way to know for sure. I might try it though.
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RE: Shanghai Jimmy's Chili Rice 2006/11/08 16:36:18 (permalink)
Here's a link to the recipe on the Dallas forum. Rather than just copy and paste the recipe this way people can read the follow up comments, one of which mentions there was a pat of butter between each layer. Sheesh! Everybody likes hot buttered rice .

http://www.dallashistory.org/cgi-bin/webbbs_config.pl?read=27391
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RE: Shanghai Jimmy's Chili Rice 2006/11/09 11:51:26 (permalink)
Ah, thanks Olth!!! Good idea.

Now if we can just figure out the changes Jimmy made for the chili rice he sold in Dallas. They were no big changes I think. OKC mentioned MSG, my wild idea was a dash of soy sauce. My latest idea, after OKC's comment, was Adobo w/ MSG. Hey, it's probably close enough right from the LP recipe.
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RE: Shanghai Jimmy's Chili Rice 2006/11/09 11:56:59 (permalink)
papajoe,
check out steve blow's column in the
dallas morning news today.

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RE: Shanghai Jimmy's Chili Rice 2006/11/09 12:59:48 (permalink)
Xannie, can I see it on the net? Help me find it. Shoot, I think you have to regester, and I have, but my email is down and I can't remember my password.
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RE: Shanghai Jimmy's Chili Rice 2006/11/09 13:01:02 (permalink)
www.dallasnews.com
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RE: Shanghai Jimmy's Chili Rice 2006/11/09 13:29:03 (permalink)
Xannie, sorry but I am a dummy sometimes. I couldn't find Steve's article. It's a big place there. They let me do one search but then wanted me to join.
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RE: Shanghai Jimmy's Chili Rice 2006/11/09 13:32:36 (permalink)
okay, i'll send the column to you.
check your e mail.
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RE: Shanghai Jimmy's Chili Rice 2006/11/09 13:37:38 (permalink)
My email is broken, not sure when it will get fixed. My ISP is having probs. Any tips to find the article at the dallasnews site?
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RE: Shanghai Jimmy's Chili Rice 2006/11/09 13:46:44 (permalink)
throwback joint was Shanghai Jimmy's. I grew up eating that wonderful chili rice at his brother George's tiny cafe in Tyler.

I loved carrying on the tradition here. The secret to his chili rice was a pat of butter and chopped celery. I still eat it that way at home.

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RE: Shanghai Jimmy's Chili Rice 2006/11/09 14:01:33 (permalink)
Thanks Xannie. Sorry I could not find it.

Jimmy's brother George, didn't know about that. Maybe Steve could help find Jimmy's recipe, or George's? Sounds like Steve is a fan of chili rice.
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RE: Shanghai Jimmy's Chili Rice 2006/11/09 14:13:51 (permalink)
I googled "george's tyler restaurant chili" and found the article. At the bottom of the page is Steve's email. When mine gets fixed I will mail him and tell him about this thread. Thanks again Xannie!
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RE: Shanghai Jimmy's Chili Rice 2006/11/14 13:21:23 (permalink)
A guy named Rick recently made a post at the dallashistory.org forum about a bunch of Shanghai Jimmy collectable items he plans to put on Ebay, two menus and a whole bunch of stuff, for those here who may have an interest.
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RE: Shanghai Jimmy's Chili Rice 2007/09/29 15:20:04 (permalink)
Chili rice is served once again at the 2007 State Fair of Texas. The Embarkadero bldg. location still has it and you can get chopped onions and jalapenoes as a topping. It's not Shanghai Jimmy's but it's good.

Sorrry but I did not check to see if the Texas Cafe in the food building still serves it. I just got their foot long chili dog and lost all sense of reality! The help yourself onions, relish, and jalapenos fried my brain. Or... maybe it was the Shiner Bock?
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RE: Shanghai Jimmy's Chili Rice 2007/09/29 16:20:54 (permalink)
Damn that sounds good.... a chili dog with onions and chiles washed down with a cold Shiner Bock.
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RE: Shanghai Jimmy's Chili Rice 2007/09/30 12:26:32 (permalink)
Yep, the Shiner Bock on was draft and does go great with chili dogs... and with chili rice! And, I do love chopped onions abd jalapenos on both.
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RE: Shanghai Jimmy's Chili Rice 2008/01/21 22:44:01 (permalink)
Not only do I remember Shanghai Jimmy's Chili Rice, but it's the inspiration for what I'm serving at my Super Bowl party this year! That's how I came upon this website...googling Shanghai Jimmy


"Chili Rice is Very Nice...I Think I've Heard That Once or Twice"

That's what I used to hear him say when I'd go for some chili rice with sauteed celery and onions (and cheese...duh)

That was also back in the days of the Green Glass Lounge...
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RE: Shanghai Jimmy's Chili Rice 2008/01/21 23:33:32 (permalink)
Welcome Ferretmom! I found this site w/ a Google for Jimmy also.

I remember the celery and onions but not that they were sauteed. My memory is somewhat in question though.
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RE: Shanghai Jimmy's Chili Rice 2008/01/22 12:05:22 (permalink)
PapaJoe, you may be right. My memory isn't what it used to be either...or is it? I can't remember. :)

Thanks for the welcome.

I'm going to really be looking for good edible stuff in the area of Texas around Kountze, Silsbee, Livingston, Beaumont. My husband will be working in that area alot in the next year and he says the selection is pretty dismal. So if anyone has any suggestions (besides the Chili's in Silsbee...)
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RE: Shanghai Jimmy's Chili Rice 2008/01/22 12:29:05 (permalink)
The celery was raw. To this day, I top my chili with chopped onions and celery. Adds a terrific dimension to the dish.
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RE: Shanghai Jimmy's Chili Rice 2008/01/22 13:23:08 (permalink)
Thanks Mister F! Hey, your a kinda new poster also so... welcome! Raw it is then.

Dallashistory.org has some good info about Jimmy also. We tried to find the real deal recipe but with no luck. I think our gueses are close though.

The info about Jimmy and Wake Island is very interisting. He was a hero to our guys stuck there.

Ferretmom, the sauteed dosen't sound bad though. And, do some searches here, about that area, and I think you will find pleanty of good places to eat.

Yall must have spent some time in Dallas. I'm B&R and still live just east at Lake Tawakoni. My mom and Jimmy were buds and I ate chili rice allot as a kid. That's probably why I am such a chili nut.
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RE: Shanghai Jimmy's Chili Rice 2008/01/23 07:22:30 (permalink)
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Originally posted by Sundancer7

The Sundancer does not do beans. It ain't cause I do not like them but it is because of the effect it has on me. I guess as you get older, different foods have other results. I cannot do even a small amount of beans even two or three.

I get my chili without or I do not get it at all. I understand that many prefer it with beans but they obviously do not share some of the problems I have.

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