Hot!Sonic Protocol

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Tony Bad
Fire Safety Admin
2006/01/13 22:22:16
Okay...here is a bunch of really dumb questions. Never been to Sonic, as they don't have them in my part of the country, but as fast food goes, I have heard good things about them. Thing is, the one times I have been by one and actually drove in, I didn't get the concept. Do you just pull in a space and talk to the sign to order? When they bring out the food are they expecting a tip? I travel a lot in what wind up being express trips, leaving little time for stops that aren't right by the road (usually fast food). I wanted to try Sonic, but just thought I'd ask how it works before I did.

Thanks in advance for addressing this pressing issue.
Wallyum
Double Cheeseburger
RE: Sonic Protocol 2006/01/13 23:10:22
Yes, pull in, press the button, and place your order. We try not to eat in the car when we're at Sonic, but they usually have several tables under the awning with their very own board. Very exclusive. I usually tip the standard 20% because the servers are usually kids. Been there, done that, and never forgot.
txtwister
Cheeseburger
RE: Sonic Protocol 2006/01/14 11:19:41
Wow, I feel bad now - I've never tipped at Sonic. It just never occurred to me to tip a fast food kiddo.

For the record, Sonic isn't what it used to be (here in TX anyway) except for drinks like the classic cherry-lime and the occasional jalapeno cheddar bite craving. Whataburger still makes a decent burger, however.
Adjudicator
Sirloin
RE: Sonic Protocol 2006/01/14 11:37:04
Tipping at a Sonic?

Never. The servers are employees, not waitresses.
Poverty Pete
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Sonic Protocol 2006/01/14 11:44:55
I don't go often, but I always tip the server. At best, she's probably making seven bucks an hour. In some states, it's likely to be 2.50 or so.
Michael Hoffman
Double-chop Porterhouse
RE: Sonic Protocol 2006/01/14 11:46:24
I always tip at Sonic. I figure it might help cover the cost of Bandaids for them when they fall down while skating away.
dreamzpainter
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Sonic Protocol 2006/01/14 15:00:04
watching them skate is worth a tip (and the smacks from the misses) I agree Sonic has changed since my !st experience in Ark in the late 70's, the frito pie seems smaller and the burgers no where near as good. I wouldn't go out of my way for Whataburger, my few experinces haven't been all that great.
Tony Bad
Fire Safety Admin
RE: Sonic Protocol 2006/01/14 16:37:07
Thanks a lot everyone. I know it seems silly to have asked what I did, but I just wondered about it and figured some of you experts would know!

I'll report back how I liked it after my next trip.
mayor al
Fire Safety Admin
RE: Sonic Protocol 2006/01/14 18:49:56

We will use Sonic as a 'Drive-Thru' 99% of the time we stop there. With that in mind we do not tip. The few times we sit and eat at the Sonic in the old "Drive-In" format, we will tip the Car-Hop for his/her service.
nvb
Cheeseburger
RE: Sonic Protocol 2006/01/14 22:33:09
I'll usually leave the remaining change if it totals close to a dollar. If not, I'll add another dollar to the change.

I had a lady that was a ex-carhop for them work for me almost two weeks. She lost her job with Sonic when road construction killed the business. She said with tips it was nothing to bring in $17.00 an hour. She left me because she couldn't handle a rush.

Hell, I need to work there.
Wallyum
Double Cheeseburger
RE: Sonic Protocol 2006/01/14 22:48:36
quote:
Originally posted by Adjudicator

Tipping at a Sonic?

Never. The servers are employees, not waitresses.



Have you ever actually made Lincoln scream?
Tony Bad
Fire Safety Admin
RE: Sonic Protocol 2006/01/14 23:39:37
quote:
Originally posted by Al-The Mayor-Bowen


We will use Sonic as a 'Drive-Thru' 99% of the time we stop there. With that in mind we do not tip. The few times we sit and eat at the Sonic in the old "Drive-In" format, we will tip the Car-Hop for his/her service.


If you do plan to drive on and eat on the go, do you need to tell them that?
sk bob
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Sonic Protocol 2006/01/15 12:20:49
Any Sonics in or around Daytoa Beach Fla?
long dog
Cheeseburger
RE: Sonic Protocol 2006/01/15 22:16:34
check the locator in their website:

http://www.sonicdrivein.com/index.jsp
octopus
Cheeseburger
RE: Sonic Protocol 2006/01/16 14:18:13
In the Albany, NY area we don't have nay Sonics, However 2 summers ago while in Orlando I made a point of finding one after seeing ads on WTBS for years. I too was confused about the ordering processing, I think I even went up to the window and knocked on it as I recall. It was like being on a different planet for us we were confused and did not know what to order. I was the guy that I complain about in Mcdonalds when they stand there gawking at the menu like they have never seen a Big Mac before. We worked through it and had a decent experience.
All could have been sloved by pushing the little red button.
Tony Bad
Fire Safety Admin
RE: Sonic Protocol 2006/01/16 14:25:44
quote:
Originally posted by octopus

In the Albany, NY area we don't have nay Sonics, However 2 summers ago while in Orlando I made a point of finding one after seeing ads on WTBS for years. I too was confused about the ordering processing, I think I even went up to the window and knocked on it as I recall. It was like being on a different planet for us we were confused and did not know what to order. I was the guy that I complain about in Mcdonalds when they stand there gawking at the menu like they have never seen a Big Mac before. We worked through it and had a decent experience.
All could have been sloved by pushing the little red button.


Man that is funny...thanks for the laugh!! I didn't want to be the guy you describe...which is why I just drove on. When I was a kid I always hated when we would stop at a fast food place...this was back in the days when the menus were a lot simpler than they are now...it was basically hamburger or cheeseburger. My dad would stand there and say "what do they have here" as if he had just beamed down from another planet. Drove me nuts.

Glad you understood the nature of my dumb questions!!
Jimeats
Filet Mignon
RE: Sonic Protocol 2006/01/16 15:07:58
Octopus-My daughter sent me one of those cards you use at the drive thru for Chrismas I went to there web site checked locator guess they don't like it on this side of Mason Dixon Line. Well I'm saving the card for her birthday. Going to send it back to her it's the gift that just keeps on giving. Chow Jim
octopus
Cheeseburger
RE: Sonic Protocol 2006/01/16 16:50:00
quote:
Originally posted by Jimeats

Octopus-My daughter sent me one of those cards you use at the drive thru for Chrismas I went to there web site checked locator guess they don't like it on this side of Mason Dixon Line. Well I'm saving the card for her birthday. Going to send it back to her it's the gift that just keeps on giving. Chow Jim

The closest ones to me are in Ohio.
A re-gift always works for me. I actually have a box full of possible re-gift items, However I usually don't give them back to the same person. It is a science right down to labeling the gift bags so I don't give them back to same person.
rmcielwain
Double Cheeseburger
RE: Sonic Protocol 2006/01/17 21:29:15

Rats! " /> Didn't get a chance today to head over to the mall in Dothan and
get my first Cherry Slush of 2006! (this Sonic location is in a food court).
dreamzpainter
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Sonic Protocol 2006/01/18 15:41:18
My first experience with Sonic was back in the late 70's while stationed in Ark. It was the gathering place and one point of the "circut" everyone cruised. I didn't think about them much after returning to the Philly area but after living here in florida for a few years Sonic came back on the scene explosivly! One opened just outside the main gate to Mayport Navel base, quickly followed by one near Home Depot, then Jacksonville Beach and others across the river scattered throughout Jax. While its not a regular stop when we eat out it does work for a quick nosh after leaving HomeDepot or grabbing a flavored drink before a walk on the beach.
sizz_leteen
Cheeseburger
RE: Sonic Protocol 2006/01/18 21:00:54
My first and only time eating at Sonic was about 3 years ago in Florida. I'm not really much of a burger and fries fan, but I liked the atmosphere. Plus, you can't beat Florida in December when you're coming down from Canada. *^^*
mayor al
Fire Safety Admin
RE: Sonic Protocol 2006/01/18 21:54:03
Tony Bad--
In addition to the nose-your-car-into-the-slot old-fashioned drive-in parking arrangements, the SONICs around here all have the usual order box and menu at the rear of the stand (like almost all FF places). Loop around the store, place your order using the call box back there then drive-around and wait by the walk-out door on the "far-side". The carhop will run your stuff out to you bagged to travel. And we do leave the change for those stops. For us that the order is usually a pair of the Lemon-Berry or Lime-Cherry Slushes during the summer months. Using their 2 for 1 deal in the afternoon we two of the Giant ones for $1.50 and stay 'Hydrated' for an hour or so on down the road. We seldom get the sandwiches there. There aren't bad...but they aren't worth much either.
Rev.Bucky
Hamburger
RE: Sonic Protocol 2006/01/21 18:09:35
I have only been to the one in Reno, though they are building one near me, and I can't wait. I have only had the food once, it was ok, good by fast food standards but nothing to write Roadfood about (LOL!!), but their beverages, oh man. As soon as it's built here, I will become seriously addicted to the Cherry Limeade, and the Ocean Water! MMM Good stuff, and I'll be buying the fourtyfour oz!!
UncleVic
Sirloin
RE: Sonic Protocol 2006/01/23 02:33:07
quote:
Originally posted by long dog

check the locator in their website:

http://www.sonicdrivein.com/index.jsp


Bummer... None in Michigan..
SassyGritsAL
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Sonic Protocol 2006/02/02 10:13:59
We have several Sonic's here in Huntsville, AL. They use to have the best steak sandwhich but took it off the menu. They also had regular size hotdogs, and now they only have foot long hotdogs. I also remember the fried pickel oh's, they were great. It seems like the item I always ordered and always taken off the menu. I do tip at Sonic, usually anywhere from 50 cents to a dollar. About the only thing worth ordering now is the drinks. I love the diet strawberry limeade. Usually the burgers and sandwhiches are lukewarm, although the BLT is not bad, but I have to ask for extra crisp bacon.
Lamkid
Junior Burger
RE: Sonic Protocol 2006/02/07 02:42:39
Hey, give em a small tip for bringing it out, if you use the drive thru, nope.
KVON
Junior Burger
RE: Sonic Protocol 2006/08/18 15:39:10
Now that Sonic has done away with the platform to put the tray back on, where does your trash go after you have eaten? I have a friend who feels that it is her job to throw it away when she gets back home. I'm still asking for the tray platform back, as I don't WANT to carry my trash back home.

KVON
Michael Hoffman
Double-chop Porterhouse
RE: Sonic Protocol 2006/08/18 16:29:37
I was at a Sonic last month and it still had the tray platforms.
Poverty Pete
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Sonic Protocol 2006/08/18 18:50:55
I kinda like the cranberry lime slush. I've had two this month.
enginecapt
Filet Mignon
RE: Sonic Protocol 2006/08/18 20:27:20
We hit a Sonic somewhere off of the 99 on our way to Fresno last month. We couldn't find any place to put the trash either. Quite possibly the worst FF burger I've ever been served, and that includes the steamed ones with the painted on grill lines I used to get back at San Clemente High School in the late 60s. Not an auspicious introduction to the world of Sonic food. I'll not be making that mistake again.
Poverty Pete
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Sonic Protocol 2006/08/18 21:12:19
You were a Triton?
felix4067
Filet Mignon
RE: Sonic Protocol 2006/08/18 21:22:14
quote:
Originally posted by enginecapt

We hit a Sonic somewhere off of the 99 on our way to Fresno last month. We couldn't find any place to put the trash either. Quite possibly the worst FF burger I've ever been served, and that includes the steamed ones with the painted on grill lines I used to get back at San Clemente High School in the late 60s. Not an auspicious introduction to the world of Sonic food. I'll not be making that mistake again.

Sonic's burgers, if they were ever good, are now probably the worst food you can eat, including actual roadkill.

However, their Toasters sandwiches are pretty darn tasty. Although I normally only go there for milkshakes/malts. Not that I get there often (still none in Michigan), but I do make a point of it when I travel at least once.
John A
Filet Mignon
RE: Sonic Protocol 2006/08/19 17:48:30
In another RF Sonic thread I related my first experience about sitting there and watching the skaters going by me and not stopping to take my order. I finally left, not knowing you have to push a button. In any event, I have since tried a burger, not going to do that again. Cherry Limeades are good though.

John
MikeS.
Fire Safety Admin
RE: Sonic Protocol 2006/08/20 01:44:57
My last Sonic was back in March on the way home from WDW. The car hop had been working there for a few months according to her. She had no idea that her tray was made to hang from the window. That blew my mind. Oh well she learned something new that night.

MikeS.
HollyDolly
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Sonic Protocol 2006/08/21 11:18:46
We have two Sonics here in town.The first one on FM78,next to the car wash and Church's Chicken.
The other one is up on FM3009 and IH-35 to Austin.It's next do to Taco Cabana and Schlotsky's Sandwiches,plus the new Chili's here in Schertz. I have had pretty good luck at the ones here in town.And I do tip the car hop like a buck.I don't know what they get paid,but it's been like 102 degrees here,and they are constantly in the heat,or rain if we ever get any,so I don't mind.
Haven't had any of their desserts,but I do enjoy the drinks like the cherry limade.

Enginecapt,it's like a lot of chains.Some are really good or great,and the same place in another part of the country sucks.If one place in a chain sucks,I may try the same outfit just in a different location here in town,if both stink,then I don't bother with them ever again.
aprils0909
Junior Burger
RE: Sonic Protocol 2007/05/05 21:13:52
If they skate, I tip. Some do, some don't. If they walk up, I'll round up to the nearest dollar.
celvan
Junior Burger
Re:Sonic Protocol 2013/12/17 19:39:11
I don't like Sonic's new cheesebites.  They're not sweet, even with the strawberry dipping sauce.  They SHOULD have made strawberry cheesecake bites with the strawberry already infused in them.  One thing I do like is that you can mix their sodas with all kinds of flavors.  I absolutely LOVE Dr. Pepper mixed with chocolate!
joerogo
Filet Mignon
Re:Sonic Protocol 2013/12/17 21:18:54
I like these old Tony Bad Threads.
JayL
Cheeseburger
RE: Sonic Protocol 2013/12/17 23:54:23
Poverty Pete

I don't go often, but I always tip the server. At best, she's probably making seven bucks an hour. In some states, it's likely to be 2.50 or so.

 
Employees must earn minimum wage...no matter what.
 
Yes...I know this thread is nearly 8 years old. 
post edited by JayL - 2013/12/17 23:56:37
felix4067
Filet Mignon
RE: Sonic Protocol 2013/12/18 00:46:35
JayL

Employees must earn minimum wage...no matter what.

Yes...I know this thread is nearly 8 years old. 

Tipped employees do not earn anywhere near minimum wage. There is no such thing as "no matter what".
eruby
Double Cheeseburger
RE: Sonic Protocol 2013/12/18 10:38:57
After seeing the Sonic commercials for many years on TV, they finally opened one not super far from where we live.  We pulled into the lot and I drove around the building twice looking for where you enter the place, until I finaly realized there is NO where to enter.  You either eat in your car, go to the drive through, or sit at one of the few tables they have in front of the building (there's an ordering box for walk ups there as well). I'm a chump.
 
We pulled into the space and placed our order.  The waittress skated up and I unwrapped the foot-long chilli dog I'd been waiting years and years to try.  Took a bite, and there was a hair in it.  Lucky for me mantra at places like this is 'Blessed is he who expects nothing, for he won't be dissapointed."
 
We do like the cherry-limeade, and I usually go on Halloween when they have 50 cent corn dogs.  Always give the skatrs a buck or two.
 
Sonic, to me, was clearly better on the TV commercials.
Poverty Pete
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Sonic Protocol 2013/12/18 11:39:34
JayL

Poverty Pete

I don't go often, but I always tip the server. At best, she's probably making seven bucks an hour. In some states, it's likely to be 2.50 or so.


Employees must earn minimum wage...no matter what.

Yes...I know this thread is nearly 8 years old. 

I don't know where you heard this, but it has no basis in fact.   In most places, servers who rely on tips are not paid anything near minimum wages.   Next time you go to a casino, ask your cocktail server.
pnwchef
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Sonic Protocol 2013/12/18 12:09:58
 
Fact Sheet #15: Tipped Employees Under the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA)
This fact sheet provides general information concerning the application of the FLSA to employees who receive tips.
Characteristics
Tipped employees are those who customarily and regularly receive more than $30 per month in tips. Tips are the property of the employee. The employer is prohibited from using an employee’s tips for any reason other than as a credit against its minimum wage obligation to the employee (“tip credit”) or in furtherance of a valid tip pool. Only tips actually received by the employee may be counted in determining whether the employee is a tipped employee and in applying the tip credit.
Tip Credit: Section 3(m) of the FLSA permits an employer to take a tip credit toward its minimum wage obligation for tipped employees equal to the difference between the required cash wage (which must be at least $2.13) and the federal minimum wage. Thus, the maximum tip credit that an employer can currently claim under the FLSA is $5.12 per hour (the minimum wage of $7.25 minus the minimum required cash wage of $2.13).
Tip Pool: The requirement that an employee must retain all tips does not preclude a valid tip pooling or sharing arrangement among employees who customarily and regularly receive tips, such as waiters, waitresses, bellhops, counter personnel (who serve customers), bussers, and service bartenders. A valid tip pool may not include employees who do not customarily and regularly received tips, such as dishwashers, cooks, chefs, and janitors.
Requirements
The employer must provide the following information to a tipped employee before the employer may use the tip credit:
1) the amount of cash wage the employer is paying a tipped employee, which must be at least $2.13 per hour;
2) the additional amount claimed by the employer as a tip credit, which cannot exceed $5.12 (the difference between the minimum required cash wage of $2.13 and the current minimum wage of $7.25);
3) that the tip credit claimed by the employer cannot exceed the amount of tips actually received by the tipped employee;
4) that all tips received by the tipped employee are to be retained by the employee except for a valid tip pooling arrangement limited to employees who customarily and regularly receive tips; and
5) that the tip credit will not apply to any tipped employee unless the employee has been informed of these tip credit provisions.
The employer may provide oral or written notice to its tipped employees informing them of items 1-5 above. An employer who fails to provide the required information cannot use the tip credit provisions and therefore must pay the tipped employee at least $7.25 per hour in wages and allow the tipped employee to keep all tips received.
Poverty Pete
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Sonic Protocol 2013/12/18 12:15:32
pnwchef,
 
My eyes just glazed over. Can you make a reduction of that, and just give us the sauce?
EdSails
Filet Mignon
RE: Sonic Protocol 2013/12/18 12:27:31
Poverty Pete

pnwchef,

My eyes just glazed over. Can you make a reduction of that, and just give us the sauce?

One of the best ways I've ever heard of asking that!
Re:Sonic Protocol 2013/12/18 12:48:42
joerogo

I like these old Tony Bad Threads.
Like these?
 

JayL
Cheeseburger
RE: Sonic Protocol 2013/12/18 13:04:55
Poverty Pete
I don't know where you heard this, but it has no basis in fact.   In most places, servers who rely on tips are not paid anything near minimum wages.   Next time you go to a casino, ask your cocktail server.

As the person who signs those checks, I do know what is required of me. 
 
A server may make $2.13 an hour, but their pay must equal minimum wage when their tips are added in.  If their tips plus the $2.13 do not add up, they get a check for the difference. 
 
On that note...a server that isn't making minimum wage in tips probably won't be working for me very long.  There's a reason their tips are minimal, and that most likely isn't a person that needs to be the face of my business.
JuanKerr
Junior Burger
RE: Sonic Protocol 2013/12/24 21:49:39
JayL

As the person who signs those checks, I do know what is required of me. 

A server may make $2.13 an hour, but their pay must equal minimum wage when their tips are added in.  If their tips plus the $2.13 do not add up, they get a check for the difference. 

On that note...a server that isn't making minimum wage in tips probably won't be working for me very long.  There's a reason their tips are minimal, and that most likely isn't a person that needs to be the face of my business.

Whoa, there, sailor. I do appreciate that you're in the south and your heritage dictates that people should work for you for free, but that's not how the restaurant business works everywhere. California has the fastest growing restaurant sector in the country, has abolished the concept of "tipped" employees, and has a relatively high minimum wage.

A person that bases their business on paying waitpeople $2.13 an hour on the understanding that they should hustle for the rest is most likely not a person that needs to be the face of any business. A tip is a tip, not an excuse for you to operate an inefficient establishment because the rest of us tax payers will pay the social costs associated with such behavior. Grow up, and come play with the big boys (you'll find there's still profit there too, even if you're giving some of it to your employees).
post edited by JuanKerr - 2013/12/24 21:51:41