TV producer looking for 'dives'

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pageprod
Junior Burger
2006/08/12 09:12:31
I am looking for suggestions of 'dives' to feature in a TV special ... I am defining a dive as a place at least 30 years old, preferably older, with the ambience you'd expect of a 'dive,' proud to be called a dive, with character, characters, and at least one unique or fabulous food item.
Thanks,
David Page
952-210-7733
ann peeples
Sirloin
RE: TV producer looking for 'dives' 2006/08/12 09:43:43
You need to visit some of the older George Webb restaurants in and around the Milwaukee area.Let me know if you want specifics.
signman
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: TV producer looking for 'dives' 2006/08/12 10:28:28
David, Is this show being produced on spec, or do you have a network lined up to broadcast?

My favorite dive is probably Ernie's BBQ at 1843 S. Federal Highway in Fort Lauderdale. Around since 1957 I think, it has a Key West vibe, and although they do provide valet parking at lunch time, you would never confuse this place with anything upscale. The barbecue sauce is actually better than the barbecue. But the real standout here is the Conch Chowder served with thick slices of Bimini Bread.
Adjudicator
Sirloin
RE: TV producer looking for 'dives' 2006/08/12 10:39:38
Many dumps but no dives in my area.
seafarer john
Filet Mignon
RE: TV producer looking for 'dives' 2006/08/12 11:19:39
The Raccoon Saloon in Marlboro, NY - for hamburgers and beer
The Eggs Nest in High Falls, NY - for Deli sandwiches, and Southwestern influenced items, and well made drinks.
P&G's in New Paltz, NY, - for hamburgers and beer.
El Cap in St Petersburg, FL - for hamburgers and beer and sports TV.

Cheers, John
doggydaddy
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: TV producer looking for 'dives' 2006/08/12 12:38:06
quote:
Originally posted by pageprod

I am looking for suggestions of 'dives' to feature in a TV special ... I am defining a dive as a place at least 30 years old, preferably older, with the ambience you'd expect of a 'dive,' proud to be called a dive, with character, characters, and at least one unique or fabulous food item.
Thanks,
David Page
952-210-7733



Three Brothers Cafe in Petaluma. If they are still open, they would fit the bill. I received the recommendation that if I was to eat there, use the plastic utensils. I have to agree.
It has been a decade since I ate there, so who knows if they are still open.
I would order the Master Blaster sandwich which was a grilled chicken breast with a split (very hot) link and topped with a great BBQ sauce on a bun.

The Colony Grill in Stamford, CT may also fit. It is kinda dumpy and is renowned for the one item that is on the menu. A one sized pizza that has a cracker thin crust and drips plenty of oil. Info on that place kind be found through searching this website.

mark
pdxyyz
Cheeseburger
RE: TV producer looking for 'dives' 2006/08/12 12:46:06
Staniches, Portland Oregon.
PrettyKitties
Junior Burger
RE: TV producer looking for 'dives' 2006/08/12 13:03:26
Al's Breakfast in Minneapolis Mn; Golden Light Cafe in Amarillo TX. Don't know how long the Golden Light has been around, but Al's has been around for a while - over 30 years at least.
PrettyKitties
Junior Burger
RE: TV producer looking for 'dives' 2006/08/12 13:05:00
Oh, and Ben's Chili Bowl in DC - a local institution.
TheJerseyTomato
Junior Burger
RE: TV producer looking for 'dives' 2006/08/12 16:08:12
Not sure if Redbones in Somerville MA counts http://www.redbonesbbq.com
The Mars Bar in the East Village, NYC is definitely proud to be called a dive. Years ago when I was there, a man was spouting drunken German poetry at me.
Greymo
Filet Mignon
RE: TV producer looking for 'dives' 2006/08/12 16:21:08
quote:
Originally posted by Pigiron

Pick a Waffle House, any Waffle House (except, you won't find a fabulous food item).


Well, I have a little girl in my family who thinks Waffle House is wonderful and she loves their waffles. All patrons are well behaved and most of their restaurants are well maintained and with a cheerful staff so I will have to disgree with you on this one.
Davydd
Sirloin
RE: TV producer looking for 'dives' 2006/08/12 22:07:44
I don't know if I would call it a dive but this is the place I would recommend -- Caspers' and Runyons' Nook on Hamline Avenue in St. Paul, MN. Here is my quick review in the Roadfoods.com Pork Tenderloins thread. They are more known for their Jucy Lucy hamburgers and the place has been in business since 1938.

http://www.roadfood.com/Forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=423&whichpage=14
CajunKing
Sirloin
RE: TV producer looking for 'dives' 2006/08/12 22:21:23
Hinkle's in Madison Indiana, beautiful historic rivertown

Local Legend, Great Hinkle Burger
FoodBully
Junior Burger
RE: TV producer looking for 'dives' 2006/08/12 23:56:39
Here are a few in Little Rock, Arkansas:

Homer's Restaurant
The Box
David Family Kitchen
Doe's Eat Place
Juanita's Mexican Cafe & Bar
Original O. W. Pizza
Vino's Pizza * Pub * Brewery
Your Mama's Good Food
Browning's Mexican Restaurant
Buffalo Grill - Riverdale
Chip's Barbecue
Grady's Pizza & Subs
Leo's Greek Castle
The Oyster Bar
Pizza D Action
Sim's Bar-B-Que
U S Pizza Company
Asher Dairy Bar
Grampa's Southern Catfish House-North Little Rock
The Faded Rose
Canon Grill
Jimeats
Filet Mignon
RE: TV producer looking for 'dives' 2006/08/13 08:22:34
quote:
Originally posted by TheJerseyTomato

Not sure if Redbones in Somerville MA counts http://www.redbonesbbq.com
The Mars Bar in the East Village, NYC is definitely proud to be called a dive. Years ago when I was there, a man was spouting drunken German poetry at me.
Nah! Redbones has too many yuppies to be considered a "dive". I'm the King of Dives in the Boston area, just ask my friends, know most of them if not all. If I disclosed names and locations they would become yuppiefied. Some locations you have to keep in your back pocket to prevent this from happening. Chow Jim
Captain Morgan
Double Cheeseburger
RE: TV producer looking for 'dives' 2006/08/13 08:31:15
How far are you willing to travel?
fhoran
Cheeseburger
RE: TV producer looking for 'dives' 2006/08/13 08:53:46
quote:
Originally posted by TheJerseyTomato

Not sure if Redbones in Somerville MA counts http://www.redbonesbbq.com
The Mars Bar in the East Village, NYC is definitely proud to be called a dive. Years ago when I was there, a man was spouting drunken German poetry at me.


I think the atmosphere at Redbones is more "college" than dive but the Porter Cafe which used to be a good place for BBQ in that area would have been a dive. Fred
Adjudicator
Sirloin
RE: TV producer looking for 'dives' 2006/08/13 09:30:12
Any place that has a website is definitely not a dive.
HankNBugsy
Hamburger
RE: TV producer looking for 'dives' 2006/08/13 09:47:55
Rubens Tamales on Rigsby in San Antonio
seafarer john
Filet Mignon
RE: TV producer looking for 'dives' 2006/08/13 14:37:34
We'd appreciate it if pageprod would provide a more complete description of his idea of a dive.

cheers, John
Tristan Indiana
Cheeseburger
RE: TV producer looking for 'dives' 2006/08/13 15:10:30
Workingman's Friend Tavern

Best Double Cheeseburgers in Indianapolis. Owned (I think) by the same family since 1918.

True dive in the best sense of the word.
sudie
Cheeseburger
RE: TV producer looking for 'dives' 2006/08/13 16:56:55
Quatman's in Cincinnati. Great burgers, has a lunchmeat sandwich on the menu, and if you order something that comes with a beverage, you can opt for beer. Saw in the paper this morning that they are an outlet for that quintessential dive brew, Hudy and Hudy Delight which is being brewed in Cincinnati after a long hiatus.
wheregreggeats.com
Filet Mignon
RE: TV producer looking for 'dives' 2006/08/13 18:27:46
The Yankee Doodle in New Haven and Nick's Catfish in Carlysle, Arkansas
skylar0ne
Cheeseburger
RE: TV producer looking for 'dives' 2006/08/13 18:53:39
Keaton's BBQ in Cleveland, NC. They have been reviewed here on this site, by Jane and Michael. They are known for their barbecue chicken, and they are the epitome of the word "dive." There are even signs that say "No guns allowed, unless you are with the Sheriff's office, No Loud Cussing," etc. Check it out.
John Fox
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: TV producer looking for 'dives' 2006/08/13 19:03:25
Rutt's Hut Clifton, N.J.
Bobs
Cheeseburger
RE: TV producer looking for 'dives' 2006/08/13 19:20:02
Helen's Barbecue in Brownsville, Tn. Just hurry before the whole building collapses.
TwoJays
Cheeseburger
RE: TV producer looking for 'dives' 2006/08/13 20:33:10
quote:
Originally posted by pageprod

I am looking for suggestions of 'dives' to feature in a TV special ... I am defining a dive as a place at least 30 years old, preferably older, with the ambience you'd expect of a 'dive,' proud to be called a dive, with character, characters, and at least one unique or fabulous food item.


I nominate my old hangout, the Busy Bee Pub in Watertown, MA. It meets all of the above characteristics, and they are widely known for their buffalo wings, which were awesome 15 years ago, and still pretty good today (though they've seemed to have shrunken).

Another nominee may be "Lewis's" here in Norwood, MA. It is definitely a dive, but is known for its "Lewis Burger".

John
Kepi
Junior Burger
RE: TV producer looking for 'dives' 2006/08/13 20:41:21
Ol' South Pancake House on University in Fort Worth, TX. It's been around since 1962, although I think its current building dates back to the early 80s. It is the best late night people-watching place in Fort Worth. The clientele consists of everyone from cowboys in town for the horse shows to fraternity and sorority kids from TCU to punk rockers to average joes and janes. The speciality of the house, in my opinion, is the German Pancake, sort of a pancake/crepe/omelette hybrid served with melted-butter/powdered sugar/lemon juice syrup that's mixed tableside then folded up inside the pancake by a waitress that has probably been serving them up for the last twenty years. It is one of my favorite go-to comfort foods.
cornfed
Cheeseburger
RE: TV producer looking for 'dives' 2006/08/13 21:30:58
George's Diner in Brooklyn on Coney Island Ave. The only time they have any customers is when the bars let out.
Tony Bad
Fire Safety Admin
RE: TV producer looking for 'dives' 2006/08/13 21:49:33
quote:
Originally posted by Adjudicator

Any place that has a website is definitely not a dive.


How about this place...

http://www.mcsorleysnewyork.com/

A classic dive, perhaps one of the longest, if not THE longest operating dives around! I once brought a girl I was dating there and she described it as "vile". I ditched the girl, but still hit McSorley's whenever the opportunity arises!


and to add...

http://local.yahoo.com/details?id=11038469

Voted Best of Yahoo! for: Dive Bar

How can you go wrong!
roossy90
Sirloin
RE: TV producer looking for 'dives' 2006/08/14 03:53:40
952 area code.
You are in Minnesota...

How far are you willing to travel to research "Dives"..
and what TV network or show will it be shown on..
National or local programming?
roossy90
Sirloin
RE: TV producer looking for 'dives' 2006/08/14 03:54:41
Oops, BTW.. welcome to Roadfood....
Tara
SassyGritsAL
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: TV producer looking for 'dives' 2006/08/14 10:01:36
In Huntsville, AL, try Big Spring Cafe (a true Dive). They serve the small old-fashioned hamburgers (extra grease if desired) that they only put mustard and onions on. There is one table and a bunch of bar stools. A must try also are their chili dogs and ketsup slaw dogs. Please put this one on your list and I know you won't be disappointed.
Ashphalt
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: TV producer looking for 'dives' 2006/08/14 10:09:16
Not really a dive, but ready to play one for T.V. is the Red Wing in Walpole, Mass. It's actually a small old diner (maybe 20s?) with what looks like a roadhouse built around it. The diner portion serves as a bar for locals. The dining room probably hasn't been touched since the 60s, but that's okay because it has no decor. Famous for fried clams and bar pies (pizzas).

It's situated in the middle of a parking lot on Route 1 southbound, just south of Gillette Stadium. I've heard of fans who insist that if they don't eat clams at the Red Wing, the Pats will lose.
booboobirdie
Cheeseburger
RE: TV producer looking for 'dives' 2006/08/14 10:10:00
Kay's Pizza, Second Dyke Road, Rensselaer NY

The restaurant itself is actually falling into Burden Lake. The roof looks as if it's about to collapse, and the floors are so warped that you could fall if you don't watch your step. And it is packed every single night between Memorial Day and Labor Day, closed the rest of the year. Some of the best pizza I've ever had.

tsores
Double Cheeseburger
RE: TV producer looking for 'dives' 2006/08/14 10:22:42
Have you tried reading the restaurant reviews on this site?
Jennifer_4
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: TV producer looking for 'dives' 2006/08/14 10:56:22
There is a great mexican food place around the corner from my house where a guy got killed in a fight on sunday...does that qualify for "dive" status?
Pigiron
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: TV producer looking for 'dives' 2006/08/14 11:24:03
quote:
Originally posted by Greymo

quote:
Originally posted by Pigiron

Pick a Waffle House, any Waffle House (except, you won't find a fabulous food item).


Well, I have a little girl in my family who thinks Waffle House is wonderful and she loves their waffles. All patrons are well behaved and most of their restaurants are well maintained and with a cheerful staff so I will have to disgree with you on this one.


Greymo,

My original post was removed from this board without explanation. All I did was state an opinion about a restaurant that, in my opinion, fits the original poster's description of a dive to the letter. I said nothing to "flame" anyone, nothing slanderous, nothing directed at another poster...I said nothing but an opinion. It seems that anything negative said around here regarding a restaurant that one of the moderators enjoys gets summarily deleted. I thought this board was all about open discussion about restaurants and food?
V960
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: TV producer looking for 'dives' 2006/08/14 11:51:05
His first post...feel the trool
soozycue520
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: TV producer looking for 'dives' 2006/08/15 01:25:44
quote:
Originally posted by V960

His first post...feel the trool?


Yes, and "pageprod" does not seem to have been back yet.

But, I have some great new ideas, and one I missed ~~ I went to Madison, IN, but Hinkle's was closed for vacation. I WILL go back to try it!!
rongmtek
Double Cheeseburger
RE: TV producer looking for 'dives' 2006/08/16 13:56:20
Hey, Tonybad-
Established in 1854, McSorley's only began to admit women in 1970, after being sued to do so in 1969. So ditching the girl was only your showing respect for this venerable institution's past.
I became a regular patron (far too genteel a word for this place, actually) in early '71. The old-timers were NOT happy that I usually brought a girl, law or no law.
I know others have reminisced about McSorley's on ROADFOOD, so I won't here. But is it a dive? You bet.

I also nominate:
-The Hot Dog Ranch, in Pittsfield, MA. Down the block from Wahconah Park, a 100+ year-old minor league ballfield. It's dark, dank & proudly low-rent. Basically a crummy bar with really good hot dogs that I've described on ROADFOOD before, in a Berkshires thread.
- The Pink Elephant saloon in Monte Rio, CA. On the Russian River in Sonoma County, it's been there since the 1930's, I believe. In the early '70's, there was a large section of the floor that was simply missing- you could see the river below. They may have had food, I really don't know. If it still exists, I expect it has not changed much.

fhoran
Cheeseburger
RE: TV producer looking for 'dives' 2006/08/16 14:29:43
quote:
Originally posted by Ashphalt

Not really a dive, but ready to play one for T.V. is the Red Wing in Walpole, Mass. It's actually a small old diner (maybe 20s?) with what looks like a roadhouse built around it. The diner portion serves as a bar for locals. The dining room probably hasn't been touched since the 60s, but that's okay because it has no decor. Famous for fried clams and bar pies (pizzas).

It's situated in the middle of a parking lot on Route 1 southbound, just south of Gillette Stadium. I've heard of fans who insist that if they don't eat clams at the Red Wing, the Pats will lose.


No decor is right. From the outside it looks like the stereotypical "dive" too. Would work for TV. Better clams at Bubbling Brook on corner of North St. and Rte 109 in Walpole however. It too has been around forever but looks like the ice cream place it is, not a dive. Fred
JT1
Cheeseburger
RE: TV producer looking for 'dives' 2006/08/16 14:59:31
The Bluegill cafe comes to mind on the causeway in Mobile, AL. It was already sliding into the bay before the hurricane, so who knows if it's still there. Great seafood. Elvis ate there.
octopus
Cheeseburger
RE: TV producer looking for 'dives' 2006/08/16 16:50:22
The Mousetrap in Rte 9 in Latham, NY, there used to be a place in Latham, NY named the 'DITLIGAF' the best name ever for a dive bar/tavern/restaurant.
There is also a place in Troy Rd. East Greenbush, NY called Mother's Hide-away (locals call it the Slide-away)
buffetbuster
Porterhouse
RE: TV producer looking for 'dives' 2006/08/16 20:24:38
Two classic Roadfood places I think of as "dives" are:

Al's Place in Locke, CA - Best known for their steaks. As a matter of fact, when I walked in, I hadn't even been seated yet and they asked me "How do you want your steak cooked?". If there is a menu here, I still haven't seen it. It is reviewed on the site and the pictures say it all. http://www.roadfood.com/Reviews/Overview.aspx?RefID=155

Cole's P. E. Buffet in Los Angeles - It has been round since 1908 and they are best known for their French Dip sandwich, which I believe they claim to have invented.

Two other places that if they aren't dives, are certanly divish are Goldyburgers in Chicago and The Windmill in Stratford, Connecticut
mhill95
Cheeseburger
RE: TV producer looking for 'dives' 2006/08/16 21:14:52
Matt's Bar, 3500 Cedar Ave S, Minneapolis, MN

Great "Jucy Lucy" Burger
Great Fries
Ice Cold Draft Beer
Still a Dive after 50+ Years

Check it Out!
Mike
CNW
Cheeseburger
RE: TV producer looking for 'dives' 2006/08/18 00:39:20
No alcohol served, but the Town Topic's in downtown Kansas City are the most rundown restaurants that I have ever been in.

Chris
Farmallcub
Hamburger
RE: TV producer looking for 'dives' 2006/08/18 01:53:53
The Cave Inn Byron Il, Small bar that has great Burgers
CajunKing
Sirloin
RE: TV producer looking for 'dives' 2006/08/18 18:25:25
soozycue

sorry that Hinkle's was closed, they usually get ready for the school year, with Hanover College just up the hill, they get hit hard right after school starts back.

it definately a place to try.
familydok
Cheeseburger
RE: TV producer looking for 'dives' 2006/08/20 15:43:40
Dixie Cafe in Wilmington, NC - fits the bill!
Paul's Place(hot dogs) near Wilmington, NC
Troutman's, Mr. C's & What A Burger in Concord, NC
Ella's of Calabash, NC-established in 1950
Pepper Breath
Hamburger
RE: TV producer looking for 'dives' 2006/08/27 08:08:11
The Laurel Tap(?) in Madison, WI.
murbike
Junior Burger
RE: TV producer looking for 'dives' 2006/09/01 07:56:55
Swanky Franks in Norwalk, Ct.
I always feel like I need a shower when I leave.

Their deep fried hot dogs are awesome.

They recently went through an ownership battle, and I haven't been back since so it may be different now.
QFan
Double Cheeseburger
RE: TV producer looking for 'dives' 2006/09/01 09:40:14
Great concept for a TV special! Sure hope it gets made. My 2 nominees would be:

Whitey's in Arlington, VA (if it's still in business; haven't been there in several years). Classic working man's bar in an older area of DC suburbs.

Paul's Deli in Williamsburg, VA. Definitely a college feel to it, but otherwise fits all your definitions for a dive. Top-flight food with some great sandwich creations and wonderful onion rings. Right on the main drag in the "burg," Richmond Road (US 60).

QFan
Bonita Springs, FL
Jesseabrams
Junior Burger
RE: TV producer looking for 'dives' 2006/09/01 10:46:12
Effies tavren in lewiston, ID. The Anytime travern, also in lewiston. And the Pastime Tavern in genesse, ID. The Pastime is over 100 years old, and the others are both over 30 years of age. All are known for LARGE burgers. The Pastime also does A BBQ'd pribe rib once a month. All are loaded with chachter and great food and cold beer.
Tony Bad
Fire Safety Admin
RE: TV producer looking for 'dives' 2006/09/01 10:53:04
quote:
Originally posted by QFan

Great concept for a TV special! Sure hope it gets made. My 2 nominees would be:

Whitey's in Arlington, VA (if it's still in business; haven't been there in several years). Classic working man's bar in an older area of DC suburbs.



Sadly Whitelys closed a few years back, and in what has to be the ultimate indignity, it became a wine bar. What a change!

I sure miss that broasted chicken and that big old "EAT" sign out front.
Christa
Junior Burger
RE: TV producer looking for 'dives' 2006/09/10 15:26:51
A great dive is in St. Petersburg, Florida called the Crab Shack. It is at least 30 years old and has the freshest seafood you'll ever eat. Great "old" decor. If you need more information, let me know.
Greyghost
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: TV producer looking for 'dives' 2006/09/10 17:52:54
In this case I think TV Producer translates into Troll Venture Product. Mr. DeMille we are ready for our close-up. Mr. DeMille... Mr. DeMille...where are you?
Big_g
Cheeseburger
RE: TV producer looking for 'dives' 2006/09/10 19:36:58
You might like this one;

Uncle Getchee's Rib House
4145 US-278 W
Covington, GA 30014
(770) 786-2222

I went to one of Bobbie and Lee McWright's brisket and butt classes and thought of nothing but BBQ all the way to Covington....went hunting and drove past it 3 times. It is a portable building in a strip mall parking lot. Ribs, fried fish, and if I remember right, chopped sandwiches. It is take away only and there were about 10 or 12 of us standing around waiting for our orders...good stuff, ribs were tasty, slaw and potato salad were good too.
I'll try them again next time I'm in the area.
Mark in VT
Cheeseburger
RE: TV producer looking for 'dives' 2006/09/10 19:51:35
quote:

There is also a place in Troy Rd. East Greenbush, NY called Mother's Hide-away (locals call it the Slide-away)



I'm from East Greenbush, NY, and was only able to get to Mothers a couple of times. It was a biker bar/restaurant. It was located down a steep muddy dirt driveway, and you took the chance you would never get out. Especially in the spring. I remember hearing alot about the place in high school, as it was the place only the "toughest" and "coolest" kids ever went to. The joint lasted much longer than anyone expected. It had pretty good cheap pizza if I remember correctly. I things its a BBQ place now.
V960
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: TV producer looking for 'dives' 2006/09/11 11:00:08
Anyone notice the original poster (w/ a single post) never came back? Feel the hook?
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