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Basic question for BBQ smokers - Mon, 07/7/03 2:50 AM
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Here it is - I've got an electric water smoker. When smoking ribs, do you just let the slab lie there flat on the grill? Or is it better to have it sitting "upright" so that both sides get exposed to the smoke? If so, how do you get it to sit up?

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RE: Basic question for BBQ smokers - Mon, 07/7/03 5:41 AM
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You will be able to fit more ribs in your water smoker if you
purchase a "Rib Rack" at a local hardware or department store.
This will also stand them up. I don't think their will be a lot of difference if you lay them flat on the smoker or stand up in the rack, only that you can fit more.

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RE: Basic question for BBQ smokers - Mon, 07/7/03 9:21 AM
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Morning Yumbo.

If you are going to lay them flat, just make it a point to turn them occasionally. This is to just a little better coloring on both sides of the ribs. But don't do this before the 3 hour mark as you don't want to opening and closing your smoker during this timeframe. I can't you the reason for this other than that is the way I was taught over the years.

John

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RE: Basic question for BBQ smokers - Mon, 07/7/03 9:58 AM
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A tip from "Fine Cooking" mag (I think): If you don't have a rib rack, the rack from a roasting pan will work. It has to be the non-folding kind with several parallel supports.

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RE: Basic question for BBQ smokers - Mon, 07/7/03 12:37 PM
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A-ha. Many thanks for the tips.

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RE: Basic question for BBQ smokers - Tue, 08/12/03 4:24 PM
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Can you do a pork butte on a charcoal water smoker. If so, how, how long and how much?

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RE: Basic question for BBQ smokers - Tue, 08/12/03 4:40 PM
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I wouldn't advise it. It takes too long to do it right and you can't maintain the heat long enough. You would have to keep taking off the lid to replenish the charcoal. I had a water smoker and learned my lesson several years ago, so I got a bigger offset smoker. Good luck!

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RE: Basic question for BBQ smokers - Tue, 08/12/03 4:49 PM
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Originally posted by Sundancer7

Can you do a pork butte on a charcoal water smoker. If so, how, how long and how much?
I use an electric water smoker, but had a friend who used the charcoal version very successfully. His had a door on the bottom section that he opened to add charcoal and/or wood chunks.

But listen, Paul, is a pork butte anything like a masa mesa?

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RE: Basic question for BBQ smokers - Tue, 08/12/03 5:48 PM
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I got the door on the bottom and I did a turkey on it a couple of years ago but a pork butte is something else. Need more info

Paul E. Smith
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RE: Basic question for BBQ smokers - Tue, 08/12/03 6:21 PM
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I've got an el cheapo $30 water smoker with a door near the bottom to feed charcoal/wood. On a very hot still day I smoked a pretty good butt in abbout 8 hours and another 2 hours tightly wrapped in the oven.
On a cool windy day I smoked a butt with not good results. The butt just never got the long slow cooking it needed. That cheap little smoker just couldn't maintain the heat on a cool windy day. I was constantly tending it in a desperate effort to maintain something around 225, but just couldn't do it. Since then I've depended on my son's cooking on his Big Green Egg when we want BBQ pig. Lesson: unless you want to buy a pretty damn good smoker, depend on someone who has one or go to your local BBQ joint - if you are lucky enough to have one.

Glad to see Sundancer back from Maine and Canada and to learn that he enjoyed his lobster at Youngs. We love that place. Would like to hear if he found any good meals in Halifax.

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RE: Basic question for BBQ smokers - Tue, 08/12/03 7:47 PM
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Paul....

Of course you can do a butt on a water smoker!! Been doing ot for many years. Not only that, but I can BEAT most any other type of cooker!

As most of you know, I use a fleet of Weber Smokey Mountain cookers.....at home, for catering and in competitions. Many, many Top 10 finishes and several ribbons are evidence that it can be done. I have competed against every cooker imaginable...off-sets, grills, pellets, ceramics, etc. and have beat them....BUTTTT I have also lost to them!

We have a saying in the BBQ world.....It's the cook, NOT the cooker!

Now, this smoker is NOT an el cheapo...they cost around $180...but here is what they are capable of........20+ hour burns, minimal vent adjustments, VERY efficient and relatively spacious.

I have kept this unit burning for 22 hours on ONE load of fuel and it held steady at 225º....give or take 10º....for the entire time. Does it have any shortcomings? Of course! But, every cooker has some type of shortcoming.

So, YES it can be done and YES it can be done with award winning results!

Stogie

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RE: Basic question for BBQ smokers - Tue, 08/12/03 11:47 PM
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Hey, gang: thought y'all might find this link of interest:

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/08/13/dining/13BARB.html

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RE: Basic question for BBQ smokers - Wed, 08/13/03 3:24 PM
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Paul, I've cooked dozens of pork butts, sholders, and fresh hams on a basic water smoker. The secret is to leave it alone. One way of forcing yourself to do this is to fire up the smoker (I use a combination of charcoal and wood) just before you go to bed and let the meat cook all night. Most meat needs at least 8 hrs on a smoker before it becomes barbecue. Yes you'll probably run out of water, and the coals will cook down to practically nothing. But trust me...it works like a charm.

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RE: Basic question for BBQ smokers - Fri, 08/15/03 7:02 AM
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I am on my way to Walmart to buy a pork butte to put on my water smoker which chilidawg indicated that if I put it on in the evening, it would be ready the next morning. What size should I buy? Is there a better cut to put on the smoker?

My plan is to put it on the smoker about 7:00PM and take it off around 4:00AM. I will baste it in sauce. I will add sauce to the water, although some has advised me that adding anything to the water does not do anything. I will use a charcoal that is now self starting and just light a few coals in the center. I will fill the water pan as full of water as possible. I will not touch it for the next 8 hours.

I hope it works out as I will be hosting a BBQ at noon tomorrow. I will be serving it with Tennessee fried cornbread, cole slaw, potato salad, grilled corn on the cob, porta bella mushrooms on the grill covered with bell peppers, onions, tomatoes and some cheese (always goes over well) and for dessert a blue berry pie with Mayfields vanilla ice cream, Mellow Joy coffee, Bud Lite and a little Canadian for yours truly while I am chopping the pork.

Paul E. Smith
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RE: Basic question for BBQ smokers - Fri, 08/15/03 8:00 AM
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Paul...

This will be far too late to save you!! DO NOT, under any circumstances, use self starter briqs!!! They are impregnated with lighter fluid and as they light, they will give off horrible fumes.

You are using the correct method for lighting, but in this case it will work against you. As each of the briqs lights, it will emit that lighter fluid taste and this may last for your entire cook.

Also, save some money and don't add anything to the water. It will either evaporate too quickly because the cooker temps are well over the boiling point, or it will distill out...remember your high school experiments when boiling salt water? Once the water boils away, all that is left is the salt.

Finally, it is OK to baste with sauce, but if your temps get above 265º, that sauce will burn. Generally, it is not a good idea to sauce until the end. You will be exposing that sauce to heat for a long time and the tomatoes may turn bitter after a while as well. You should use a good mop....apple juice, vinegar and oil...and then baste at the half way point and every half way point to the end. ie......for a 10 hour cook, baste at the 5 hr. mark, then again 2 hrs. later and then 1 hr. later and finally 30 minutes before it is done.

As to cooking times.......I have cooked tons of butt and if I keep my smoker temp at 225º it will take at the very minimum, 2 hrs./lb. I have never, ever had one finish earlier, but several have finished much later.

Like I said, far too late for you this time, I just really hope this one turns out for you!

Good luck!!

Stogie

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RE: Basic question for BBQ smokers - Fri, 08/15/03 8:12 AM
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Actually Stogie, it is not too late for your comments as I will not start the BBQ until 7:00PM this evening. Perhaps I did not make myself as clear as I should. I do not use self starting charcoal in my swater smoker. I did that a few years ago and it left a terrible petroleum taste to my product and I had to dispose of it.

I start the bricks with an electric starter, put them in the center of a lot of other bricks, put my water on top and then add whatever I planned on using.

I did have a questions regarding the type of pork to use: Is there a better cut to use besides a butte? If not what size butte to use.

My smoker does not seem to get as warm as it should. Could be because it was a cheap $40 job at Walmart.

Paul E. Smith
Knoxville, TN

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RE: Basic question for BBQ smokers - Fri, 08/15/03 10:59 AM
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Hi Paul.

I can answer your questions also as I cook on WSMs myself and know Stogie from the BBQ circuit.

There are not really different cuts of pork butts. There are either bone-in or boned butts. I prefer bone-in as I feel the bone helps get heat into the middle of the butt and I think a piece of meat always tastes better with a bone in it. Plus, a butt is more forgiving due to the amount of fat in the butt. Leaner cuts do not do as well in my opinion in the smoker. Not that they are not good but smoking was meant more for cheaper pieces of meat that no one else wanted.

On the size, they should run anywhere from 4-8 lbs. for a bone-in butt. I like the 5.5 to 7 lb. range. Of course the larger the butt, the longer it takes to cook. Figure 1.5 to 2 hrs. per lb. of butt. That is the time for the size of each butt, not the total lbs. of butt you have on the smoker. For example, a 5 lb. butt will take from 7.5 to 10 hrs. to cook. A 7 lb. butt will from 10.5 to 14 hrs. to cook. Keep in mind that this is a guideline and not a hard and fast rule. Each butt is different. I believe the internal temp is more important. I cook mine to 195*. This is because I use them for pulled pork. Hope this helps.

John

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RE: Basic question for BBQ smokers - Fri, 08/15/03 11:07 AM
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You guys are magicians. I've never been able to sustain the heat well enough and long enough in my water smoker. That's why I went to the offset smoker. I still have trouble regulating heat with it but I think I get better results with the offset for longer smoking items. I guess I need a course in water smokology.

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RE: Basic question for BBQ smokers - Fri, 08/15/03 11:38 AM
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RibDog, thanks for the info. I will do the bone in and I will shoot for a five pounder. Did you ever do a pork loin?


Paul E. Smith
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RE: Basic question for BBQ smokers - Fri, 08/15/03 11:54 AM
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I usually don't because Stogie will tell you that I am by nature, cheap. I cook butts because I can get them at a real good case price at Sam's. Just bought a case last week at $.80 a pound. It is kinda hard to beat that.

But if you are more flush than I am, go for the loin. Just keep in mind that it has much less fat in it and can dry out very quickly. You might even want to consider brining the loin before smoking. I am sure Stogie has cooked some loins so he will probably chime in on this.

BTW, Stogie pointed out the expense of the WSM at $180. Keep in mind that it is a well made smoker that should last you a good 8-10 years, if not longer, if maintained properly. Plus all of the parts are available for replacements. And the WSM has been around for quite a while. If you get a chance, take a look at www.virtualweberbullet.com. It is a website dedicated to the WSM.

Come back and tell us how the butt turns out. One more thing, if you make pulled pork from the butt, make sure you keep as much of the dark outside (bark) of the butt and mix it in with the rest of the inside meat. Also, try the cooked meat before you put any sauce on it.

Have fun.

John

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RE: Basic question for BBQ smokers - Fri, 08/15/03 12:02 PM
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Hey OneIron.

Stogie is right about the long cook times on the WSM. I cook pork butts for friends and do it the same way as Stogie. I fire up my WSMs the night before and throw half a case of butts (4) on each WSM and then go to sleep. I get up the next morning, put some more water in the pan, check temps, and go have breakfast. I have had 22 hour cooks at 225 just like Stogie. These WSMs are amazing. Go to the website I listed in my last response and check it out.

I should point out that I did make one modification to my WSM so I could get more sleep. I took out the Weber water pan and put in a Brinkman charcoal pan in its place. This doubled the amount of water (from 1 gal. to 2 gals.) in the smoker. Stogie is going to beat me up on this because I know he has switched to using sand in his water pan. Then you don't have to worry about refilling it with water. But that is another story for another day.

John

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RE: Basic question for BBQ smokers - Fri, 08/15/03 12:03 PM
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Ribdog, whay did stogie switch from water to sand?

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RE: Basic question for BBQ smokers - Fri, 08/15/03 12:09 PM
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I used one of the "cheap" Brinkman water smokers for over 20 years and was very happy with it for the most part. Sometimes things turned out very good, sometimes they didn't. I always thought it was just my lack of ability responsible for the inconsistency, and I know that was a big factor.

However, taking Stogie's advice from his many posts on this subject, I got a Weber Smokey Mountain for Father's Day this year. I can attest that the ability to control the heat on this thing is unbelievable. I also followed his advice and bought an oven thermometer; digital readout with a 3' cord between the probe and the unit. I can now always tell what the temp is at the level where the meat lays, so that gives further control over the results.

Paul, as much as you BBQ, I HIGHLY recommend investing in a WSM. You will absolutely LOVE it.

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RE: Basic question for BBQ smokers - Fri, 08/15/03 12:17 PM
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Originally posted by RibDog

Hey OneIron.


Doggone it! I was too insecure to admit that I didn't know what "oneiron" meant and after a lot of searches, found ou. So I wa happy. And now you spell it OneIron. I hate it when someone else sees something that should have been clear to me.

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RE: Basic question for BBQ smokers - Fri, 08/15/03 12:43 PM
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Rick, I'm not going to ask what you originally thought it was.

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RE: Basic question for BBQ smokers - Fri, 08/15/03 1:03 PM
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Sounds like you guys are getting the hang of this BBQ stuff!

Thanks RibDog for the excellent input. For the rest of you folks, he is a fantastic cook and a great addition to the board! RibDog....I would never dream of beating you up!! LOL Over the years I have mellowed in my opinions on things!

For those that are struggling with smoker temps. If you have one of the cheaper off-sets...under $800...there are some mods you can make that will increase your temp control greatly. I will post these under a new heading as this one is getting long.

For Paul and others who have the cheap water smokers, check out this site for the mods you guys can make......

http://www.randyq.addr.com/ecb/ecbmods.html

The biggest problem with these is the use of a small charcoal pan. After a couple of hours, your briqs will drown themselves in the ash and die out. You need to constantly stir, empty and re-fill. Doing this for a 20+ hr. stretch can be maddening!

Paul, to answer some other questions.......

I switched to sand for ease of clean up. At many contests, they still don't provide water and I had to haul it around with me. At the end, you need to dispose of it somewhere...that usually meant dragging a greasy, shallow pan of water to the nearest place. Sometimes there wasn't one! As RibDog mentioned, you also do not need to refill it on those long cooks. I personally don't think it adds any moisture to the cooking environment and after using it now for 1 year, I am more convined than ever of that. It acts as a heat baffle so sand works just as well as water....please, NO physics lessons! LOL

As for smoking loins...they are the only meat I brine. I also no longer cook them on the smoker. As RibDog mentioned, they are much too lean for smoking. It can be done, but I prefer to grill over high heat. Here is how I do it......Get your grill..or you can do this in the oven...to 450º-500º. Grill each side of the loin for 5 minutes. Then back your heat down to around 375-400º and finish. Turn the thing often and baste often. Cook it for another 45-50 mins. and you will have yourself a perfect pork loin. Let it rest for 10 minutes and then slice it up.

If you like to use a meat thermo instead, shoot for 145-150º and then remove and rest. If you go above 160º on this cut of meat it will dry out. Not to worry...trichinae is killed at 137º.

Hope this helps everybody!

Stogie

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RE: Basic question for BBQ smokers - Fri, 08/15/03 1:59 PM
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Stogie: I know you are not impressed with my $40K water smoker, but right now it is what I have to work with. The web site you directed me to is great and the modifications will improve the performance. I will try to do #1 & 2 this evening. I may have to get a smaller cut of butte because the channel will reduce and ash drain will reduce cook time to five hours.

I will let you know how it turns out.

Paul E. smith
Knoxville, TN

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RE: Basic question for BBQ smokers - Fri, 08/15/03 4:19 PM
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Paul,
Once upon a time Walmart offered a Brinkman smoker for $199 that had the separate firepit.
Horizontal, not vertical.
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RE: Basic question for BBQ smokers - Fri, 08/15/03 4:32 PM
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I want to clarify one thing. I will try and use sand in place of water in my WSM. I just have not had a chance where I was not cooking something for someone else. Don't want to take the chance when I am producing product. I trust Stogie implicity because I know his skill level with WSMs. I just have to be in the right frame of mind to try something new. Plus, I already the bags of sand on the back porch to prove it. They just have not made it into the water pans yet.

John

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RE: Basic question for BBQ smokers - Fri, 08/15/03 4:37 PM
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Paul,
Once upon a time Walmart offered a Brinkman smoker for $199 that had the separate firepit.
Horizontal, not vertical.
DaveM


Here's a link to what they have now (besides the cheapos).

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?cat=4089&dept=5428&product_id=1978617&path=0%3A5428%3A4089%3A4885

Would y'all take a look at it? I know it uses propane, but it also has a holder for wood chunks or chips.

This may be the Brinkmann you were talking about:

http://www.outdoor-grill-gear.com/cgi-bin/amazon.pl?asinsearch=B00006WS5F

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RE: Basic question for BBQ smokers - Fri, 08/15/03 4:47 PM
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RibDog, thanks for mentioning the sand thing earlier. After your mention and Stogie's subsequent post, I did some investigating around other BBQ sites, since I had never heard of this and was very intrigued.

Everyone, the consensus seems to be that the water in the water pan serves primarily to deflect and "regulate" heat, and that it doesn't really help keep the meat moist. This is completely contrary to what I've always thought, but it would also make sense that your "moisture" in the meat would come from the fat content instead of external humidity.

I'm going to try sand next time just to see how it works. I've always hated cleaning up the pan afterwards, anyway.

One idea I found is to place a layer of foil over the sand, so when you're done, all you have to do is remove the foil and throw it away. Keeps the sand from getting all yucky.

RibDog, when you try it, please let us know what you think. I can tell from Stogie's post that he's sold on it. Thanks again for the tip.

Man, I learn so much from everyone here on this site...

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RE: Basic question for BBQ smokers - Fri, 08/15/03 5:06 PM
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Gawd! What a great lesson in BBQ this link has been - thanks so much to all of you- especially
Sundancer who asks such great questions that most of us are just too damn prideful to ask. I'm printing the whole thing out for my son - the one with the Big Green Egg, he'll love it.

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RE: Basic question for BBQ smokers - Fri, 08/15/03 5:20 PM
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I second seafarer's remark about the Sundancer! Sundancer always asks great questions and starts some great topics that promote a bunch of great feedback.

And oneiron, it sounds like you've got your offset figured out, something that would take me years to master. Mr. Mayor uses his offset very successfully, as evidenced by these pictures he posted some time ago:

(Scroll down a little ways to see them.)

http://www.roadfood.com/Forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=50&whichpage=3

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RE: Basic question for BBQ smokers - Fri, 08/15/03 6:48 PM
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Hey Seafarer,

Since your son has a BGE, you might want to steer him over to www.homebbq.com to look at the BBQ Guru. Interesting little contraption that hooks up to the BGE to help in the cooking process. You may also want to mention www.bgeforum.com. It is exclusively for BGE owners and users and has a nice message board on it.

John

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RE: Basic question for BBQ smokers - Sat, 08/16/03 10:21 AM
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I went down to the dock to retrive the smoker last evening and dadgum if a major part was missing. Screwed up my plans last evening so I got up early this morning and went to Walmart to get a replacement part which they did not have.

I bought an electric one brought it home and it took me one hour to assemble. Dadburn little screws are hard to hold and place. Finally got it together and plugged it in. I bought a 6 pound pork butt, put some of Bushies BBQ sauce that he gave me directly from Austin. Sure smellls good Bushie. I tried a little bit on a cracker. Pretty good by itself. I wish it was five o'clock now, but it ain't and I will wait for libation.

It appears that the cooking time for the electric is less than the charcoal cause instructions indicate 45-60 minutes per pound.

Having some great baked beans, cole slaw, potato salad, Tennessee fried cornbread, chips (WOW ruffles) blueberry pie with Mayfields vanilla ice cream. Wife is in Australia so daughter and family along with my mom who lives next door with enjoy

Paul E. Smith
Knoxville, TN

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RE: Basic question for BBQ smokers - Sat, 08/16/03 12:05 PM
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Originally posted by Sundancer7
It appears that the cooking time for the electric is less than the charcoal cause instructions indicate 45-60 minutes per pound.


I'm glad to hear you say that. I've had two and while you're right about assembling them, they worked superbly. Relatively easy to move around, can use close to shelter. I didn't take care of mine, so I just accepted that I'd buy a new one every few years.

Hope your party turned out well.

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RE: Basic question for BBQ smokers - Sat, 08/16/03 6:05 PM
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Just pulled the butt off the electric grill and let it rest for one hour. It was extremely tender and very tasty. I basted it before I put it on the smoker and I did not touch it for six hours.

My baked potatos were excellent as I wrapped them in aluminum foil with olive oil, onions cajun salt, dried onions, real onions, lotsa garlic and let them cook at 425 for one hour and a half. The cheese cake and blueberry pie was super and my cole slaw and potato salad did the trick.

I am having my libation and will probably drift off.

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Knoxville, TN

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RE: Basic question for BBQ smokers - Sat, 08/16/03 8:59 PM
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Sundancer, I wish I could have tasted your pork! (I started to say I wish I could have tasted your "butt", but I didn't think that would sound quite right. )

I'm glad to hear it turned out good, and I'm really pleased to hear you liked the Salt Lick sauce.

Thanks for the report!

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RE: Basic question for BBQ smokers - Sun, 08/17/03 12:38 PM
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I was really pleased with the results of my pork butt. It was tender and tasty although I wish it had a better crust. The electric $60 job worked well. I followed instructions which indicated 45-60 minutes per pound. I had a six pound butt and left it in for six hours and let it rest for one hour.

I want to try a brisket next and I need some advice. I think I will do some corn on the cob if I can find some fresh. Its getting hard to find now.

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RE: Basic question for BBQ smokers - Mon, 08/18/03 4:12 PM
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I really want to do the brisket on my electric smoker. I am a novice with this and I need some help. Please give me some advice on doing a Walmart brisket with the fat on one side. I just want to know how to do it this week end.

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RE: Basic question for BBQ smokers - Mon, 08/18/03 4:35 PM
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I've got a question for you guys...what about sausages? I have recipes for smoked sausage, but don't know what's best to smoke them in. Anybody ever try it?

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RE: Basic question for BBQ smokers - Mon, 08/18/03 4:54 PM
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I've got a question for you guys...what about sausages? I have recipes for smoked sausage, but don't know what's best to smoke them in. Anybody ever try it?


I smoke sausages all the time, Italian, Polish Lithuanian whatever. I do them in a little Brinkman's water smoker, they don't take long Just a few hours. I usually prick them a bit to allow the smoke to enter, just don't over do or they could dry out. Nothing like pulling a smoked sausage from the freezer & taking it for lunch in the dead of winter. The smell from the microwave drives everybody crazy!!

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RE: Basic question for BBQ smokers - Mon, 08/18/03 9:45 PM
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Originally posted by Sundancer7

I really want to do the brisket on my electric smoker. I am a novice with this and I need some help. Please give me some advice on doing a Walmart brisket with the fat on one side. I just want to know how to do it this week end.


Sundance, there's lots of good info on this thread:

http://www.roadfood.com/Forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1133

I've always done brisket "low & slow", fat side up, for at least 10 hours (depends on the size, of course). Your results will probably be better cooking it longer, and with that electric unit, you can start it and let it cook all night.

Almost everyone will recommend a rub prior to cooking, but I've done briskets many times on my old Brinkman water smoker with just some salt, pepper, and whatever else I had to sprinkle on there. I personally think rubs are overrated on brisket, since in my experience, very little of the rub flavor makes it into the meat. It's great on the "crust", however. (OK, now you BBQ'ers with much more experience are welcome to point out why I'm wrong about that. )

Just use lots of hickory chips with your new electric unit.

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RE: Basic question for BBQ smokers - Mon, 08/18/03 9:47 PM
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I've got a question for you guys...what about sausages? I have recipes for smoked sausage, but don't know what's best to smoke them in. Anybody ever try it?


Cosmos, are you making your own sausage or buying pre-made raw links?

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RE: Basic question for BBQ smokers - Tue, 08/19/03 8:16 AM
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I make my own. So far limited to a couple varieties of italian, boudin, chorizo, a pork and a chicken breakfast sausage. I also do a lamb sausage with sundried tomatoes, pine nuts and mint. All recipes from Bruce Aidells cookbook. He has a bunch of smoked sausage recipes, with andouille being the highest on my list to try.

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RE: Basic question for BBQ smokers - Tue, 08/19/03 8:19 AM
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Sorry, didn't mean to turn the topic to sausage, but thanks for the Brinkman's tip. I'll probably start with sausage and turn to other meats as I gain experience.

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RE: Basic question for BBQ smokers - Tue, 08/19/03 8:59 AM
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quote:
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I make my own. So far limited to a couple varieties of italian, boudin, chorizo, a pork and a chicken breakfast sausage. I also do a lamb sausage with sundried tomatoes, pine nuts and mint. All recipes from Bruce Aidells cookbook. He has a bunch of smoked sausage recipes, with andouille being the highest on my list to try.


Thanks, sounds great. (That lamb sausage sounds REALLY good!)

I found this link that should help in using ocdreamr's suggestion.

http://www.homebbq.com/duportal/forums/msgDetail.asp?msg_id=284&for_id=8