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NEBA ROAST BEEF - Fri, 10/20/06 10:00 PM
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Is anyone wishing to recover a Neba Roast Beef sandwich? Arby's is chopped, processed and pressed back together before it is sliced for the customer. Neba was real roast beef. But they seem to have disappeared. Well I know where there is at least one left. It was originally owned by Mike's Giant Submarines. It was then taken over by Mr. B's Best, and there still is one in Queensbury, NY. It is located on State Rt. 9 just a few hundred yards north of Aviation Rd. This place needs to recover and come back and put Arby's out of business. I would also like to see Mike's Subs come back. From what I know, Mr. B's Best in Queensbury still also makes subs like the original Mike's.

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RE: NEBA ROAST BEEF - Fri, 10/20/06 10:27 PM
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Do you know what the name Neba stands for?

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RE: NEBA ROAST BEEF - Fri, 10/20/06 11:22 PM
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There was a "Mike's NEBA" in Albany, NY in the 80's when I was living there for college. They had a big picture of "Mike" on their street sign. I recall that it was a pretty good roast beef sandwich. There was a damn good stretch of food there on Central Ave:

Bob and Ron's Fish Fry
Mike's NEBA
Steak and Egg Kitchen
Westgate Diner
Grandma's Pie Shop (or something like that)

There was also a decent NY style deli behind the diner and a really bad (but very cheap) pizza shop in Westgate Plaza. I haven't been up there in at least 10 years, I wonder if any of those places still exist?

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RE: NEBA ROAST BEEF - Sat, 10/21/06 12:37 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by enginecapt

Do you know what the name Neba stands for?

Someone told me back in the late 1960s -- I think it was 1969 -- that it stood for Never Buy Arby's.

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RE: NEBA ROAST BEEF - Sat, 10/21/06 3:38 AM
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i remember when i went to college there was a neba in hempstead, ny (on long island) and an arby's down the block. i convinced a friend of mine one night when we had ingested some mind altering chemicals that neba stood for "never eat beef again" and arby's was for "artifical roast beef" and that the supposed roast beef used was actually a reconstitued soy product. ahh the power of pyshcedelcs.

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RE: NEBA ROAST BEEF - Sat, 10/21/06 3:49 AM
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Originally posted by Michael Hoffman

quote:
Originally posted by enginecapt

Do you know what the name Neba stands for?

Someone told me back in the late 1960s -- I think it was 1969 -- that it stood for Never Buy Arby's.
Thank you Mr. Hoffman.

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RE: NEBA ROAST BEEF - Sat, 10/21/06 1:01 PM
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We had a NEBA in Niagara Falls, NY, and it paired with a sub shop called, I think, Mike's. I remember it being good, but that was a long tiome ago.

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RE: NEBA ROAST BEEF - Thu, 10/26/06 10:17 PM
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i seem to recall a Neba Roast Beef on Dixie Hwy in Ft. Lauderdale in the early 80's

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RE: NEBA ROAST BEEF - Thu, 10/26/06 10:56 PM
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Mike's and NEBA were started by the same people. Often they were side by side sharing common prep, storage and refrigeration.

Mikes came first and I believe the first store was on the point of Washington and Central Avenues in Albany, NY

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RE: NEBA ROAST BEEF - Thu, 11/30/06 4:28 PM
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Someone asked:

Do you know what the name Neba stands for?

Back when I actually went to a Neba, somewhere near Pittsfield, Massachusetts, in the summer of 1967, I was told by a friend that NEBA stood for New England Beef Association.

Back then I was working at a summer camp up there, and that same friend told me that Neba's were only located in New England, hence his interpretation of the name.

I have no idea if that is true.

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RE: NEBA ROAST BEEF - Thu, 11/30/06 6:07 PM
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Originally posted by milstein

Someone asked:

Do you know what the name Neba stands for?

Back when I actually went to a Neba, somewhere near Pittsfield, Massachusetts, in the summer of 1967, I was told by a friend that NEBA stood for New England Beef Association.

Back then I was working at a summer camp up there, and that same friend told me that Neba's were only located in New England, hence his interpretation of the name.

I have no idea if that is true.

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RE: NEBA ROAST BEEF - Thu, 11/30/06 7:40 PM
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I'd go with Nepal Basketball Association.

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RE: NEBA ROAST BEEF - Thu, 11/30/06 9:11 PM
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Hit the Neba in Ft. Lauderdale in the spring of 1974 for spring break. Walked in and instantly recognized Joe Namath (Bachelor's Three was around the corner) and he had just paid for a large sack of beef sandwhiches. We all yelled - hey Joe! and he started throwing roast beef passes to us. It was pretty cool!

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RE: NEBA ROAST BEEF - Fri, 12/1/06 9:37 AM
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Gordon....... you beat me to it!

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RE: NEBA ROAST BEEF - Sun, 08/24/08 9:47 AM
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Originally posted by enginecapt

Do you know what the name Neba stands for?


NEBA stands for 'Nicest Eating Beef Around" ..this is not a guess. I'm from Glens Falls, near where NEBA got its start. I remember that 'Nicest Eating Beef Around' was part of the advertising for the Mike's Subs and NEBA shops. As reported here, there is a Mr. B's Best that took over the location and menu of a Mike's/NEBA in Queensbury, NY. The current Mr' B's is fairly close to the original Mike's/NEBA in recipe and taste although it has slipped some.

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RE: NEBA ROAST BEEF - Wed, 03/25/09 2:00 AM
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All these answers are quite amusing!  The actual answer is a bit more boring.  Neba was the name of Mike's dog. 

Mike Davis founded Mike's Giant Sub's and Neba Roast Beef.  Please don't ask why he named his dog Neba.  That I don't know!

BTW - My dad owned 8 Mike's/Neba's in the Albany area throughout the 70's and early 80's.  I worked there beginning at 14.  And Neba's were awesome!

Mike Davis moved to Ft Lauderdale to take his franchises national, then went belly-up.  He opened a popular restaurant in Charleston, SC, then a store that accepted returned bottles and cans as payment (or something like that).  He contacted my dad a few years ago because someone was going to write a story about his life.  I'm not sure, but I think I remember my dad telling me he passed away recently.

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RE: NEBA ROAST BEEF - Wed, 03/25/09 9:49 AM
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They opened several in Miami during the 60's. The one I remember best opened up right accross the street from an Arby's. Even KFC tried to get into the act and opened several "Kentucky Beef" restaurants that were company owned and often next door to the newer company KFC owned red and whites. Both used the same formula as Arby's. If I remember right, KFC's was also real,shaved beef too. Neither lasted very long. All the NEBA's became Mother Butler Pies within a few years and KFC closed their KB outlets about the same time.  Arby's pared down to a few remaining restaurants afterwards too.

One of the things that irked a lot of people when you brought up these beef sandwich outlets back when was the blatently obvious portrion control that they did in front of you. Maybe someone in marketing thought that it was a selling point, but it really pissed a lot of people off so badly that mentioning Arby's would often get a negative reaction not about the food, but the way they would put a plastic glove on and shake out the meat onto a scale in front of you.

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RE: NEBA ROAST BEEF - Wed, 03/25/09 10:14 AM
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Dawn, I vaguely remember the Kentucky Beef restaurants you mentioned. I'm pretty sure that we didn't have them here in the Chicago area, so I must have seen them on my family's many roadtrips to Kentucky and North Carolina. Do you know which states had them?

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RE: NEBA ROAST BEEF - Wed, 03/25/09 10:27 AM
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So if there's a Mike's Subs here, could it be the same chain?

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RE: NEBA ROAST BEEF - Wed, 03/25/09 10:30 AM
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nocarolina


Dawn, I vaguely remember the Kentucky Beef restaurants you mentioned. I'm pretty sure that we didn't have them here in the Chicago area, so I must have seen them on my family's many roadtrips to Kentucky and North Carolina. Do you know which states had them?


In the '70s the KFC in Belvidere IL had a cupola with KFC and KBH (Kentucky Beef & Ham) signs on alternating sides.
 
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RE: NEBA ROAST BEEF - Wed, 03/25/09 11:10 AM
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JayW2112


All these answers are quite amusing!  The actual answer is a bit more boring.  Neba was the name of Mike's dog. 


Thanks for the information, but I'm sticking to Never Buy Arbys. It may not be true, but I like it better. And I agree with it.



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RE: NEBA ROAST BEEF - Wed, 03/25/09 11:18 AM
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AFAIK, the only ones that I ever seen were here in Miami and Ft. Lauderdale area. I was in jr.high when they opened them around here in '68-'69. As a kid, I have really no idea where else they were.

KFC's company stores entered the market very agressively all at once at the time, often within close proximity of their franchises. Typical pattern was a corner lot that two or three buildings went up at the same time, with the corner building being a red and white KFC, Kentucky Beef (which looked a lot like an Arby's) and in some places an Italian restaurant called Victoria. I don't know if Victoria was a KFC project too and I never been in one.   The KB's and Victoria restaurants vanished shortly after, probably by  '72 or '73.  A seafood chain called 7 Seas took over most of the KB's around here.

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RE: NEBA ROAST BEEF - Wed, 03/25/09 11:38 AM
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Brad, I stand corrected. Apparently there were Kentucky Beef outlets in northern Illinois. Once again my aging brain cells have let me down.

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RE: NEBA ROAST BEEF - Sun, 03/29/09 6:21 PM
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Nancypalooza


So if there's a Mike's Subs here, could it be the same chain?


Nancy - There's another chain called "Jersey Mike's Subs" that is not the same.  If it's actually "Mike's Giant Submarines", then it might be.  But I thought they were gone.

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RE: NEBA ROAST BEEF - Sun, 03/29/09 6:30 PM
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Michael Hoffman


JayW2112


All these answers are quite amusing!  The actual answer is a bit more boring.  Neba was the name of Mike's dog. 


Thanks for the information, but I'm sticking to Never Buy Arbys. It may not be true, but I like it better. And I agree with it.


No problem Michael.  As I said, the real answer is more boring.  Actually, Arby's wasn't even around when Neba's came out.  Certainly not in Albany.  Mike's was a pretty creative guy though, so you never know!

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RE: NEBA ROAST BEEF - Wed, 03/14/12 12:49 AM
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Hey Jay,
Is it true that Mike Davis was a high school dropout?  If so, he did very well!  I mean no disrespect, but someone had told me that he lost everything due to a gambling issue.  Any truth to this?
Anyway, I'll always think of Mike's & NEBAs as a terrific time in my life in the Albany area - high school pranks & all!  Same for Carrols!.....and who could forget Mohawk Airlines!!!

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RE: NEBA ROAST BEEF - Sat, 01/12/13 11:36 AM
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Hey you guys, by looking at my nick-name you can see I have some knowledge of the Neba Roast Beef history.  At least in S. Florida.  My father and Mike were friends in the 60's.  We lived across the canal from Mike in Pompano Beach.  My dad and Mike went into business together in 67.  They had opened 3 or 4 Nebas in the area.  Federal and Sunrise, Hollywood Circle, Ft Laud. Beach by Elbow Room and one some were on 163rd St. in N.Miami.  I started working when I was 5 at the one on Sunrise Blvd. and Federal toasting buns on a milk crate.  Mike was bought out in 70-71.  At one time there were up to 14 stores from N. Pompano Beach to Alton Ave in Miami.  In Sunrise and Miramar to the west back when there was nothing out there.  My dad George sold the last one in the late 70's, bought it back, sold it again, but kept the business running.  We finally closed Aug 86'.  I live in Orlando now and we have a copy cat called Beefy King.  It has been here since 68' and hasn't changed.  Great roast beef, tater tots, spicy horseradish and b-b-q sauces too.

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RE: NEBA ROAST BEEF - Sat, 01/12/13 11:41 PM
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Ate at the Beefy King last week, always make the stop coming
past there.....unless traffic dictates.
Pretty decent sandwich.
 
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RE: NEBA ROAST BEEF - Fri, 03/15/13 2:27 PM
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I discovered this thread by accident and had to register just so I could respond.
 
Yes indeed, there was a Mike's and a Neba in Albany NY.  They were there in the 1960's at least if not farther back.  We would hit Mike's totally trashed after playing at Papa's Tavern on New Scotland Ave. until 2am. 
 
Neba was further up Central Ave. and all the 60's muscle cars used to congregate in that parking lot on weekend nights.  I90 was in the progress of being built and had next to no traffic on it.  So we used it to settle arguments about who's car was faster.
 
Mike's used to sponsor this thing called the "School Spirit Contest".  The winning school got a free rock concert.  Cardinal McCloskey won it in 1968.  The headline band was the Lovin Spoonful, and there were quite a few other acts.  The only one I can recall by name was the "Statler Brothers".
 
Those were the good ole days LOL
 

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RE: NEBA ROAST BEEF - Mon, 07/22/13 10:39 PM
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Keith:  I'm not sure, but I'll ask my dad.  It would not surprise me.  Mike was a real entrepreneur.  He certainly gambled in business (i.e. took a lot of risks), but not sure about actual gambling.  Mike's son called my dad recently to interview him for a book he was writing about his father.  I'll check on the outcome of that as well.

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RE: NEBA ROAST BEEF - Sun, 10/6/13 6:42 PM
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Wow! Neba / Mikes / Carrols!  Talk about  names from the past!  Growing up in Schenectady NY I remember them well and loved the food. There was a Mikes on State street on the eastern edge of Downtown at the corner of the block. In the middle 60's they opened up another Mikes with a Neba store on upper State street near the Crosstown Rt 9.  Big hangout  on Fri /Sat nite with the Muscle Cars of that era! Neba also sold a great drink called a Black Cow which was basically soft ice cream blended with root beer soda pop. Dee-lish!  After moving away from the north a few years later I was stunned to see a Neba in the Ft Lauderdale / Hollywood area! My heart was racing as  I hurriedly parked my 18 wheeler somewhere and ran over to order a couple sandwiches. This was '77 or '78..  Sadly it was the last time I ever saw one.  The Carrols hamburger joint was on Nott Terrace.  I think the hamburgers back then in the 60's were 15 cents!
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RE: NEBA ROAST BEEF - Mon, 12/16/13 4:30 PM
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Jay, Saw an old post of yours about NEBA Roast Beef
 
Can you give me a contact for Zachary or Michael Davis?
 
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RE: NEBA ROAST BEEF - Sun, 01/26/14 11:05 PM
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What memories..used to vacation several times a year at the castaway resort on 163rd and Collins - frequented the Neba's there. I remember the counter people would say if you want roast beef, you have to say "I want a Neba". They also had ham sandwiches - if you ordered one you had to say "I want a virginia ham". I remember they tasted great!