Pot Roast Vegetables.

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Ort. Carlton.
Filet Mignon
2007/01/25 01:24:03
Dearfolk,
Back when I used to eat at The Normaltown Cafe and later The Royal Cafe, one of the periodic lunch specials was Pot Roast. Both places would cook vegetables in with the meat: potatoes and carrots, primarily.
My curiosity is this: Mama's Boy is toying with the idea of a pot roast lunch special one day soon. What vegetables would YOU include in your medley of pot roast vegetables? I'd add a generous sampling of onions to the two veggies above; does anyone have interesting variations on how you would do it? Green peppers, maybe?
I'll check back here in a few daze to see what y'all have come up with. The possibility of regional variations has me endlessly wondersome.
Unroastingly, Ort. Carlton in Colder-Than-I-Would-Like Athens, Georgia.
P. S. I absolutely will not be thinking of including livermush in this! Lutefisk, perhaps....
UncleVic
Sirloin
RE: Pot Roast Vegetables. 2007/01/25 01:54:55
Them small cocktail onions... Maybe dice in some scallions also..

soozycue520
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Pot Roast Vegetables. 2007/01/25 02:32:07
I use WHOLE onions cooked in with the pot roast. I am an onion freak and love cutting the cooked onion in half, and wrapping a piece of the onion around a piece of the meat. I learned this from my mom, who made EXCELLENT pot roast.

I sometimes put celery, mushrooms or tomatoes in my pot roast.

I am not a big potato fan. I usually make noodles on the side {yes, I know noodles are not a vegetable}.
Jimeats
Filet Mignon
RE: Pot Roast Vegetables. 2007/01/25 08:22:52
I always add green peppers and fresh onions. I also sprinkle a packet of onion soup mix on top of roast. Depending on my mood sometimes I add fresh green beans if on hand or sun dried tomatos. The tomatos can add extra depth to the gravey. Also some red wine.

I must add that I've also had great success doing this with a frozen chuck roast. Brown it off as useual then add to crock pot or dutch oven. The jury is still out on wich way I prefer, stove top, in oven or crock pot. Chow Jim
kland01s
Filet Mignon
RE: Pot Roast Vegetables. 2007/01/25 10:47:00
Potatoes and carrots are the only vegetables for me in a pot roast.
Ashphalt
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Pot Roast Vegetables. 2007/01/25 11:15:10
Basic for us is small boiler onions (white onions 1-2 inches), carrots, celery, parsnips and potatoes. Some minced flat-leaf parsley is nice on top.
mland520
Cheeseburger
RE: Pot Roast Vegetables. 2007/01/25 11:37:37
pot roast- veggies
Yankee pot roast (made with a 7 blade chuck) must contain tomatoes- either canned or fresh, lots of onion, some celery and root vegetables- like parsnips, or turnips as well as carrots. Delish on a cold winter's day! The tomato actually helps to break down the protein in the beef and tenderize it.

Pot roast (a Jewish version) made with briskit cut of beef usually just has onions- and lots of them. But is served with noodles ( I agree- not a vegetable) and a selection of oven roasted root vegetables. This just has to simmer or slow cook for a very long time.

I like both versions- but prefer Yankee style Pot Roast- It was something my mom made often, and when I make it, I remember her.
mayor al
Fire Safety Admin
RE: Pot Roast Vegetables. 2007/01/25 11:38:42
Listed in order of ratio to meat. (Boneless Chuck Roast or London Broil about 3 inch thick is my first choice. Top Sirloin 'clod' is a close second choice for the meat.)
1.Potato- Small whole, or larger peeled & cut-up,
2.Carrots- 2-3in pieces, 1 inch diameter or smaller
3.Onions- usually white and medium sized in half or quarters
4.Mushrooms- whole or halved depending on size
5.Celery pieces (optional)
dancinhomer
Junior Burger
RE: Pot Roast Vegetables. 2007/01/25 11:52:57
gotta agree with the Mayor, with the exception of mushrooms, which get so squishy in the cooking process. Onions, taters, carrots and celery are tough enough to handle the heat and they flavor each other as well as the roast. YUMMERS!
Ashphalt
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Pot Roast Vegetables. 2007/01/25 12:02:47
mland - Interesting, I don't recall seeing Yankee Pot Roast recipes here in the northeast that include tomatoes. I usually use a recipe from Jasper White which is tomato-free.

I've always heard that what makes something a "Yankee" Pot Roast is that the table vegetables are cooked with the meat. The distinction is with classic European preparations like the Viennese Boiled Beef with Horseradish sauce, Italian Beef in Barolo and French Boeuf Bourgignone where beef is stewed or braised with aromatics including vegetables, usually the cooking liquid is strained and made into a sauce, and vegetables are cooked separately and either added to or served together with meat and sauce.
fabulousoyster
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Pot Roast Vegetables. 2007/01/25 12:23:26
I've made Pot Roast all different ways, but I really love Puerto Rican style Pot Roast "Carne Mechada"

Here is Daisy Martinez's recipe off her website:

http://www.daisycooks.com/pages/recipes_detail.cfm?ID=6
mollydingle
Cheeseburger
RE: Pot Roast Vegetables. 2007/01/25 12:28:05
Ashphalt is right. Tomatoes do not belong with pot roast. 'Taters, onions,carrots, turnip, even beets. Now I'm hungry...
desertdog
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Pot Roast Vegetables. 2007/01/25 15:04:17
quote:
Originally posted by mollydingle

Ashphalt is right. Tomatoes do not belong with pot roast. 'Taters, onions,carrots, turnip, even beets. Now I'm hungry...



I beg to differ....

http://www.roadfood.com/Forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=16813
redtressed
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Pot Roast Vegetables. 2007/01/25 16:31:09
I vote for a small amount of tomatoes , some dashes of good red wine, onions, new potatoes, carrots, some beef soup base or dried french onion soup, a green pepper, a couple of slices of bacon to smoke it up a bit and a bouquet garni of marjoram, thyme and savory, and lots of freshly ground black pepper. If my mama was cooking it, she'd add parsnips.
Doatsie82
Cheeseburger
RE: Pot Roast Vegetables. 2007/01/25 16:59:35
I agree with dancinhomer, potatos, onions, carrots and celery are all the veggies I add to my pot roast. My seasonings are just salt, pepper, parsley and rosemary. Doatsie
Greyghost
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Pot Roast Vegetables. 2007/01/25 18:58:59
Pot roast heaven came to River City this week when some very good chuck roast went on sale. Well marbled with fat without being too fatty, these roasts screamed pot roast. I had to try a few variations:

Pot roast #1 was pretty standard with potato, pearl onions, carrots and lots of celery as I am partial to it. The dish delivered the simple wonderful goodness I was looking for.

Pot roast #2 was similar except I omitted the white potatoes and carrots and substituted sweet potato chunks and a couple of quartered large white onions for the pearl onions. I was not disappointed with the sweet result.

Pot roast # 3 featured all the leftover sauce from the previous roasts and featured whole button mushrooms as well as thick portabello slices. The vegetable addition here was a large cabbage head cut into large chunks with the leftover white onions done the same way. This may have been the best of all, but I think it also benefited from the reduced sauce from the previous pot roasts.

I think I will do vegetarian dishes for a few days, just to make up for all that meat that I could not resist. It was a wonderful experiment though.
Sundancer7
Fire Safety Admin
RE: Pot Roast Vegetables. 2007/01/25 21:30:32
All my favorties have been mentioned. I like potatoes, carrots, onions, bell peppers, garlic, celery, jalapeno peppers and beef stock and I usualy buy a packed of pot roast spices to throw in.

I usually leave out tomatoes.

Paul E. Smith
Knoxville, TN
Ort. Carlton.
Filet Mignon
RE: Pot Roast Vegetables. 2007/01/25 21:41:33
Dear, Dearfolk,
Holy Cow!! So many responses!!! Mercy, I can't wait to turn the three caballeros of Mama's Boy loose with this thread!!
So many great cooking ideas; so little time to implement them....
Unpottedly, Ort. Carlton, Planted In Athens, Georgia.
roossy90
Sirloin
RE: Pot Roast Vegetables. 2007/01/25 23:21:46
I use stewed tomatoes along with onion, celery, carrots and spuds.
mbrookes
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Pot Roast Vegetables. 2007/02/05 13:31:15
My family has always used sweet potatoes in addition to white potatoes, carrots and onions. Maybe that's just a Mississippi thing.
Theedge
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Pot Roast Vegetables. 2007/02/05 13:36:12
If you are going to end up with a sort of "gravy" from the addition of tomatoes mixing with the juices, I would like peas in the "gravy" sort of like stew.
Rick F.
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Pot Roast Vegetables. 2007/02/05 23:17:34
Sliced celery. And garlic, if it counts as a vegetable rather than an herb. No lutefisk, which sounds repellent even if one doesn't know what it is! ("Glutinous fish?" No thank you! )
MikeS.
Fire Safety Admin
RE: Pot Roast Vegetables. 2007/02/06 01:42:52
All of mine have been mentioned except for rutabagas, love them puppies in a pot roast.

MikeS.
ann peeples
Sirloin
RE: Pot Roast Vegetables. 2007/02/06 08:02:23
Along with celery,onion,potatoes and carrots,I throw in frozen corn and peas the last half hour...and if my fresh tomatoes are a little too ripe, I chop them up and throw them in,too.Then the next day,I shred the rest of the beef,throw everything in a soup pot,add water and barley and,VOILA!-beef barley soup.
CajunKing
Sirloin
RE: Pot Roast Vegetables. 2007/02/06 14:19:09
I love Potato, carrot, celery, and onion in mine

I usually can not eat cooked carrots (makes me physically sick), unless they are cooked into a pot roast. then OH MY GAWD are they good.

UncleVic
Sirloin
RE: Pot Roast Vegetables. 2007/02/06 14:36:02
I like the tomato thing! Never would have thought of it.. Thanks..
PapaJoe8
Sirloin
RE: Pot Roast Vegetables. 2007/02/06 15:41:20
As Mr. Buffett would say "I like mine w/ lettace and tomatoes, Hinz-57 and frinch fried potatoes, a big cosure pickle and a cold draft beer, good God almighty wich way do I steeer!"

Just joking around but I always add a few pickled jalapenos to my roast. Even some of my family who dosen't like hot stuff likes my roast. Just the right amount of those japs gives a great flavor with no heat. Oh, rinse out the seeds.
Joe
Rick F.
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Pot Roast Vegetables. 2007/02/06 18:55:29
quote:
Originally posted by PapaJoe8

Just the right amount of those japs gives a great flavor with no heat.
Hmm. Using the same rationale, I add Tabasco to many savory dishes near the beginning of cooking. It adds a usually unidentifiable piquancy.
Sundancer7
Fire Safety Admin
RE: Pot Roast Vegetables. 2007/02/06 19:31:01
I use about all of the above but I usually triple the amount of onions required and I squeeze a bunch of real garlic in there. I guess I overdoo black pepper and I do no salt until close to the end. I hate overslated stuff and once you do, it is over. No going back.

Sometimes, the veggies are the best part of the meal. Tomatoes can sometimes overwhelm.

Paul E. Smith
Knoxville, TN
Scarlett
Cheeseburger
RE: Pot Roast Vegetables. 2007/02/06 19:57:49
My favorite thing to cook.
Prepare bakin-n-bag
add roast
on top of road put
1 env. onion soup mix
1 jar mushrooms
1 onion sliced
any veggies you like
1 cup of strong black coffee
close bag
bake according to direction on bag
johnnymolson
Hamburger
RE: Pot Roast Vegetables. 2007/02/07 15:22:03
I usually use potatoes, carrots, onions, and parsnips.
Michael Hoffman
Double-chop Porterhouse
RE: Pot Roast Vegetables. 2007/02/07 15:25:39
Carrots, potatoes and whole, onions -- smaller whole onions.
Sundancer7
Fire Safety Admin
RE: Pot Roast Vegetables. 2007/02/07 15:42:11
Michael, why small whole onions? I have always used large onions and just sliced them. Maybe they are easier to handle small and whole?

Paul E. Smith
Knoxville, TN
Michael Hoffman
Double-chop Porterhouse
RE: Pot Roast Vegetables. 2007/02/07 16:28:23
quote:
Originally posted by Sundancer7

Michael, why small whole onions? I have always used large onions and just sliced them. Maybe they are easier to handle small and whole?

Paul E. Smith
Knoxville, TN

Because I don't slice them. I cook them whole and serve them that way. When done like that you don't have to slice them to eat them, they just fall apart when you stick a fork, or even a spoon into them. When I say small, though, I'm really talking about onions that are just a little smaller than medium ones -- not really tiny onions.
Donna Douglass
Double Cheeseburger
RE: Pot Roast Vegetables. 2007/02/07 16:38:07
All of the aforementioned ways of cooking pot roasts are interesting and so "good soundins." When it comes to something like pot roast, or vegetable soup, etc., I usually go for whatever is on hand; I love celeriac (celery root) so if I have one I cut it up and add it. Love mushrooms so would add them at the very last so they wouldn't be come mushy. If I had cabbage in the fridge, I might add a tad of that.....just love being adventurous when it comes to vegetable dishes, as I truly do love vegetables. I also love beets, but can't see adding them to a beef dish, i.e., pot roast, etc. Rather, I love roasted beets served on their steamed greens with a bit of sour cream garnish....that would be perfect in my mind to go along with the meat dish.

Donna
Rick F.
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Pot Roast Vegetables. 2007/02/07 21:27:21
Michael: That's my next step, either with boiling onions or cipollini.

Donna: I just got adventurous and bought my first bulb of fennel--and found it to be much more delicate than I had expected. I wonder. . . .

Also, I remember my grandmother waiting until maybe an hour before the meat was done, then oiling the vegetables (with, if possible, fat rendered from the beef while cooking) and adding them. They got a little leathery on the outside, tender on the inside, and altogether delicious. I've been trying to duplicate her pot roast for maybe 25 years, ever since her death, and am very gradually getting less far, if not yet close.
Ashphalt
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Pot Roast Vegetables. 2007/02/07 21:54:46
Wow! We're getting pretty grr-may here!

I agree with the small whole onions. I use the white ones they sell here as "boilers" which are standard for corned beef. I like them about 1 1/2 to 2 inches across.

Donna - I never thought of celery root. I use it in my chicken soup. If you can find it, or if you have a garden without rabbits and can grow it, parsley root, aka petrouchka, might be worth a try. Beets don't work for me, either, but I'll do parsnips or any of the turnips.

Rick - Did your Grandmother roast the veggies some and then stew them? or roast them with some pot juice? Maybe she just had one of those magic touches. Sounds like heaven to me.
Rick F.
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Pot Roast Vegetables. 2007/02/07 22:11:16
quote:
Originally posted by Ashphalt

Rick - Did your Grandmother roast the veggies some and then stew them? or roast them with some pot juice? Maybe she just had one of those magic touches. Sounds like heaven to me.
She just put them back in with the beef, which I guess sort of stewed them some. Then we had gravy. . . . Couldn't have been heavenly, though, because it was so sinfully delicious!
Michael Hoffman
Double-chop Porterhouse
RE: Pot Roast Vegetables. 2007/02/07 22:13:53
You know, Rick, I never think of cippolini. And I saw some beautiful ones in the store just the other day.
Rick F.
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Pot Roast Vegetables. 2007/02/07 23:02:32
quote:
Originally posted by Michael Hoffman

You know, Rick, I never think of cippolini. And I saw some beautiful ones in the store just the other day.
I have seen them once in the 8+ years I have lived here--at a @*#%^ WalMart, of all places!
Michael Hoffman
Double-chop Porterhouse
RE: Pot Roast Vegetables. 2007/02/07 23:05:39
quote:
Originally posted by Rick F.

quote:
Originally posted by Michael Hoffman

You know, Rick, I never think of cippolini. And I saw some beautiful ones in the store just the other day.
I have seen them once in the 8+ years I have lived here--at a @*#%^ WalMart, of all places!

boyardee65
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Pot Roast Vegetables. 2007/03/12 14:53:10
Parsnips, Turnips, Mushrooms, Potatoes, Onions, Carrots.
JMHO
David O.