Hot!Mashed Potato as a side dish

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Philmash
Junior Burger
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2007/03/15 17:01:25
Firstly, what a great board - there’s heaps of good reading to be had here, to be sure.

If I’m ever going to eat sausages or bratwursts I would always want it to be served with mashed potato. I like a creamy mashed potatoes when I’m eating sausages, but prefer a more savoury or spicy mashed potato with bratwursts. I’ve actually got some of my favourite recipes on my blog.

What’s you’re favourite mash – and what you prefer to eat it with. Where have you had your best mash?
iqdiva
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Mashed Potato as a side dish 2007/03/15 17:18:56
Philmash,try making the mashed potatoes with some sauteed bacon and onions.Add hot heavy cream to finish.
Philmash
Junior Burger
RE: Mashed Potato as a side dish 2007/03/15 17:29:53
Hi iqdiva,

Sauteed bacon and onions! Yum. That sounds great - Ill be sure to try that out.
EdSails
Filet Mignon
RE: Mashed Potato as a side dish 2007/03/15 18:14:00
I've started "cheating" with my mashed potatoes. I usually don't keep creamer, but have found that plain old non-dairy, non-flavored creamer works really well with my mashed potatoes. I like them a little on the chunky side, and usually mix in about 6 or 8 garlic cloves that I have boiled in the water with the potatoes. I enjoy them the most with meatloaf, swiss steak, chicken fried steak or chicken and gravy. Yummy!
Mosca
Filet Mignon
RE: Mashed Potato as a side dish 2007/03/16 11:11:36
Ooooooh. Here's some.

1) Mashed potatoes and sauerkraut. Cut the liquid in your potatoes a little bit first.

2) Colcannon; mashed potatoes with cabbage and onions. 6 lbs of potatoes and 2 medium onions per head of cabbage; or, 3 lbs of potatoes and half a head of cabbage per onion. Make the mashed as you always do, sautee the onions and cabbage with 1/4 lb of bacon and mix in.

3) Add 2 lbs/1lb (depending on recipe size) of cooked ground beef to colcannon to make Bubble & Squeak (leave out the bacon).


Tom
shortchef
Double Cheeseburger
RE: Mashed Potato as a side dish 2007/03/16 11:21:09
I mash mine with horseradish (prepared) about 1 tablespoon to a big bowl of potatoes, then add the cream, s&p, sour cream and butter. It gets served with some good beef, either tenderloin or a rib roast.
Sometimes I'll stew some celery until it's real tender, and drain it and put it in my 'taters. Add the butter and cream, s&p, and serve it with some kind of buttery seafood.
fabulousoyster
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Mashed Potato as a side dish 2007/03/16 12:06:01
I boil them in chicken broth (canned ok) and 1 or 2 cloves of garlic.
When soft, drain most of the broth out, mash up with the softened garlic in it, add butter if you like, no milk needed. Very good.
CajunKing
Sirloin
RE: Mashed Potato as a side dish 2007/03/16 16:02:38
I boil mine in 1/2 stock and 1/2 water
Add 5 or 6 cloves of garlic to the water and boil them with the potatoes
when tender strain
mash potato and garlic with butter
add 1 container of sour cream
season with WHITE pepper and a bit of salt.

Adjudicator
Sirloin
RE: Mashed Potato as a side dish 2007/03/16 18:41:52
Mashed Potatoes as a side dish

Says who?
MikeS.
Fire Safety Admin
RE: Mashed Potato as a side dish 2007/03/17 00:09:45
Me.

I gotta have some meat for the main course, taters are always a side. Well except when I make up a batch of giblet gravy with a lot of giblets in it. I then make almost a soup out of the gravy and mashed taters, a very thick soup. That has been dinner a time or 3.

MikeS.
Philmash
Junior Burger
RE: Mashed Potato as a side dish 2007/03/17 04:58:02
Hey Mosca, I like your style! Mashed potatoes and sauerkraut sounds awesome! Im Going to try this out for sure. Do you recommend kraut out of a can or would you make it from scratch?
enginecapt
Filet Mignon
RE: Mashed Potato as a side dish 2007/03/17 05:11:56
Bangers and mash!

Oh yeah, and I like them for brekkie.
John A
Filet Mignon
RE: Mashed Potato as a side dish 2007/03/17 08:02:46
quote:
Originally posted by MikeS.

Me.

I gotta have some meat for the main course, taters are always a side. Well except when I make up a batch of giblet gravy with a lot of giblets in it. I then make almost a soup out of the gravy and mashed taters, a very thick soup. That has been dinner a time or 3.

MikeS.


Throw some corn or fried okra on the plate with that, add a couple of biscuits, and it's good eating.

John
BTB
Cheeseburger
RE: Mashed Potato as a side dish 2007/03/17 09:10:13
Good mashed potatoes are probably one of my favorite side dishes with most all meals. I use a little warmed milk, salt, butter and sometimes some white pepper and mix it smooth, but still a little thick. I can eat it with a little amount of "lumps or chunks," but prefer it smooth, BUT I cannot eat it with skins mixed into it (often referred to at some restaurants as "dirty" mashed potatoes). Mashed potatoes with skins are definitely not "in" with me, but I know others like it for some reason, which is fine.
Mosca
Filet Mignon
RE: Mashed Potato as a side dish 2007/03/17 14:04:28
quote:
Originally posted by Philmash

Hey Mosca, I like your style! Mashed potatoes and sauerkraut sounds awesome! Im Going to try this out for sure. Do you recommend kraut out of a can or would you make it from scratch?


Phil, I know it's easy but I still buy my sauerkraut at the store.

For me, there's nothing like a plate of mixed sausages (bratwurst, knockwurst, kielbasa, frankfurter) with mashed potatoes and sauerkraut and good strong brown mustard.

Tom
Trishkaidekaphobia
Cheeseburger
RE: Mashed Potato as a side dish 2007/03/17 18:20:07
quote:
Originally posted by Mosca

Ooooooh. Here's some.

1) Mashed potatoes and sauerkraut. Cut the liquid in your potatoes a little bit first.

2) Colcannon; mashed potatoes with cabbage and onions. 6 lbs of potatoes and 2 medium onions per head of cabbage; or, 3 lbs of potatoes and half a head of cabbage per onion. Make the mashed as you always do, sautee the onions and cabbage with 1/4 lb of bacon and mix in.

3) Add 2 lbs/1lb (depending on recipe size) of cooked ground beef to colcannon to make Bubble & Squeak (leave out the bacon).


Tom


Tom, what you call Colcannon, I call Bubble and Squeek. I always make mine from leftovers, but I make sure I make enough mashed potatoes and cabbage the first time round so that I can have Bubble & Squeek the next day.

Has anyone ever read "The Wind in the Willows" where poor Mr. Toad is in jail and the jailer's daughter brings him B&S to comfort him?

Whatever you call it, it's only one of the best dishes known to mankind! (And I am NOT exaggerating.) YUM!
Mosca
Filet Mignon
RE: Mashed Potato as a side dish 2007/03/17 21:11:39
quote:
Originally posted by Trishkaidekaphobia

Tom, what you call Colcannon, I call Bubble and Squeek. I always make mine from leftovers, but I make sure I make enough mashed potatoes and cabbage the first time round so that I can have Bubble & Squeek the next day.

Has anyone ever read "The Wind in the Willows" where poor Mr. Toad is in jail and the jailer's daughter brings him B&S to comfort him?

Whatever you call it, it's only one of the best dishes known to mankind! (And I am NOT exaggerating.) YUM!



Trish,

What I call B&S is Colcannon with cooked ground beef added. Either way, it's great stuff! Next morning I reheat it in the skillet and have it for breakfast, with hot sauce. I did a quick recipe search over the internet, and it looks like B&S can be made with or without the beef. And Colcannon never has ground beef, but sometimes has bacon (like I make it) and sometimes has sausage.

Good topic!

Tom
ann peeples
Sirloin
RE: Mashed Potato as a side dish 2007/03/17 21:33:35
I will be making a small batch of colcannon tomorrow with half a head of leftover cabbage I didnt need to cook with my corned beef.My Mother,being Irish,had potatoes at EVERY meal(same as my Grandmother and her Mother before her)so I kinda burned out on regular mashed potatoes...but colcannon is a true favorite of mine!!!
BelleReve
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Mashed Potato as a side dish 2007/03/18 15:45:24
mash with lots of butter, warm milk, salt and pepper. Also, try adding a little sprinkling of Tony Chacere's seasoning. Not enough to overpower it, but definitely enhances the taste - I call it Cajun Accent.
agnesrob
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Mashed Potato as a side dish 2007/03/18 16:10:51
My Dad was Irish and hated potatoes, my Mom German and liked them. I bought a bunch of kale to make some colcannon this week. I went through many phases of taste in my life. Loving potatoes, disliking them and now again loving them. I guess I love potatoes now and everything I can do with them. Next is homemade hash with the corned beef I made yesterday!
Adjudicator
Sirloin
RE: Mashed Potato as a side dish 2007/03/18 16:12:40
quote:
Originally posted by MikeS.

Me.

I gotta have some meat for the main course, taters are always a side. Well except when I make up a batch of giblet gravy with a lot of giblets in it. I then make almost a soup out of the gravy and mashed taters, a very thick soup. That has been dinner a time or 3.

MikeS.


Oh well. Homemade mashed 'taters for me often serve as the base for my entire meal. I do the "soup" thingie quite often, too. Valhallia!

xannie_01
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Mashed Potato as a side dish 2007/03/18 16:17:15
just mashed potatoes and saurkraut for me.
i love the stuff.
Foodbme
Porterhouse
RE: Mashed Potato as a side dish 2007/03/18 16:40:01
Go to one of the best recipe sites on the web, www.allrecipes.com and type "mashed potatoes" in the search box and you'll get 140 recipes for mashed potatoes. Take your pick!
post edited by Foodbme - 2009/03/28 15:03:04
dreamzpainter
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Mashed Potato as a side dish 2007/03/19 12:53:21
I like potatos mashed and chunky not whipped and smooth. boiled in salted water or veggie stock, drained and fork mashed with butter or garlic butter
tmiles
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Mashed Potato as a side dish 2009/03/18 15:15:48
I just had "Purple Viking" mashed potato. Purple Viking is a fairly new variety, said to make the very best mashed potatoes.

Potatoes are generally not grown from true seed, but rather parts of another potato (so called "seed" potato). You have no doubt seen sprouts on your potatoes if you store them too long. If you cut the sprouted potato so that each piece has a sprout, and plant the pieces, you, too, can grow potatoes. Generally 5 lbs of "seed" will get you 50 lbs of crop, so it takes time to build supply of a new variety.

Purple Viking has purple skin and snow white flesh, and organic seed is reasonably available this year. (if you want some for your home garden, google "Maine potato lady"). I bought some and decided to eat some before planting the rest. I also gave 3 good sized spuds to my brother to "test". His wife, being of Ukranian decent considers herself to be a potato expert by blood. My family agrees that Purple Viking is the best masher ever. My sister in law and her kids think so too. My brother thinks it is all hype, and a potato is a potato.

IMO, if you see Purple Viking at a farmers market this summer, you shoud buy some. It will be a few more years before it shows up in mainstream supermarkets. YUM!
 
Update, Mar 25, 2009. THe Maine Potato Lady is long since sold out of Purple Viking. I would have ordered more. Look for it at farmer's markets this summer, and if you see it, buy it!!! I have already had 2 unsolicited calls from chiefs asking if I will have it this summer. (More and more restaurants shop at farmers markets, in season, as the "Eat Local" fad gains steam) Speaking of fads, they were not especially interested that I will have a larger supply of Mirai (tm) sweet corn this summer. Mirai corn is still great, but I guess it is so "last year". 
post edited by tmiles - 2009/03/25 16:39:08
Twinwillow
Sirloin
RE: Mashed Potato as a side dish 2009/03/18 15:20:38
Since when have mashed potatoes become a, "side dish". I always thought they were the main dish and everything else were the side dishes.

My favorite mashed taters? A few lumps, plenty of butter and chopped raw onion. Triple yummo!
claracamille
Cheeseburger
Re:Mashed Potato as a side dish 2009/03/28 12:57:59
Mashed potatoes with:
 
Fried chicken & gravy.
Fried pork chops & gravy.
Any gravy!!
Sauerkraut & weiners.
Liver & onions.
 
I use Yukon gold potatoes, peel,  put whole peeled potatoes in cold water,cut into 2 inch chunks, rinse, cover with fresh cold water, add salt, bring to boil & then simmer until fork tender.
 
I know that some cooks will only use a ricer to make mashed potaotes, but I don't like to have too many gagets in my kitchen.  I drain the potatoes, put the pan back on the burner, shake to pot around to remove all  moisture.  I heat butter & half 'n' half(or cream if I'm feely really decadent) in the microwave, just heat, do not boil.  Then I beat the potatoes slow with a mixer, slowly add the butter & half 'n' half mixture & beat until smooth.  I always need to add more salt.
 
kirstine
Cheeseburger
Re:Mashed Potato as a side dish 2009/03/28 14:33:41
Champ is a favourite of mine.  It's an Irish dish of mashed potatoes with spring onions and lots of butter.
Foodbme
Porterhouse
Re:Mashed Potato as a side dish 2009/03/28 15:09:11
I cook a bone-in Pork roast with Sauerkraut in a Crockpot. Make a up batch of Mashed Potatoes with salt, butter & milk, (I like more stuff in them but the Bride doesn't). Put a pile of taters on a plate make a hole in the middle & fill it with Kraut, serve with the pork roast.
post edited by Foodbme - 2009/03/28 15:11:08
Fieldthistle
Double Chili Cheeseburger
Re:Mashed Potato as a side dish 2009/04/13 17:38:11
Hello All,
I love mashed potatoes with plenty of pepper and salt in
it.  and when I am in a mood, I'll swirl in some yellow mustard.
Mashed potatoes goes with any meat I eat...any meat.
It is the perfect side dish, and mix it corn, it is even better.
Take Care,
Fieldthistle
Michael Hoffman
Double-chop Porterhouse
Re:Mashed Potato as a side dish 2009/04/13 18:34:34
There's a hamburger joint on Raadets Gade in Charlotte Amalie called the Crazy Cow. The big seller there after midnight was always a  burger with peas and mash. That's mashed potatoes with peas.
mbrookes
Double Chili Cheeseburger
Re:Mashed Potato as a side dish 2009/06/03 14:14:06
I still do them like my elementary school cafeteria... mashed smooth, salt peppper, butter and milk. Then spread in a baking pan and cover with mellow American cheese. Bake until the cheese melts. Sometimes I add chopped green onions to the potatoes. 
claracamille
Cheeseburger
Re:Mashed Potato as a side dish 2009/06/07 14:42:20
I serve mashed potatoes with any kind of meat & gravy.   Also, always with sauerkrault & weiners  or liver & onions.
 
The very best potatoes I've ever used were home grown by my grandfather.   I've never again seen such good looking & great tasting potatoes.  I don't know the variety of potatoes, but the inside was very white,the texture very dense.  When mashed the potatoes were the smoothest  I have very tasted.  He saved his own potatoes from year to year for planting.  His potatoes always won the blue ribbon at the county fair.  I loved helping him dig potatoes. 
mjambro
Cheeseburger
Re:Mashed Potato as a side dish 2009/06/07 20:49:28
The key to any vegetable is freshness.  I grew potatoes years ago & learned quickly how much better they tasted when cooked immediately from the garden.

Of course, there are mashed and there are mashed.  I'll never understand how anyone can eat the library paste at KFC.
speechpeach
Cheeseburger
Re:Mashed Potato as a side dish 2009/06/09 10:09:46
I like mashed potatoes made many ways, except no horseradish for me.  I like Bubble and Squeak, colcannon, sausages with saurkraut and mashed potatoes. I usually make mine with cream or sour cream and butter and salt and pepper, but the ones with garlic and chicken broth are also yummy.  Mashed potatoes made with Yukon Gold potatoes are a bit bland to me, but then I never met a potato I did not like. (maybe  cause  I am of English/Irish heritage)
rumaki
Double Chili Cheeseburger
Re:Mashed Potato as a side dish 2009/06/09 10:36:16
I can't wait until our Farmer's Markets here in Minneapolis start carrying new potatoes.  They are simply delicious, and so abundant (in season), that I even use them for mashed potatoes.
 
I keep mine very simple -- boiled, put through a ricer, add skim milk and butter (yes, I know) and then beat with a wooden spoon until smooth.  We invariably have mashed potatoes with fried chicken and pan milk gravy.
 
 
Rusty246
Double Chili Cheeseburger
Re:Mashed Potato as a side dish 2009/06/09 11:38:50
I grew up on very smooth mashed potatoes so I always made mine smooth until my mixer died.  Now I hand mash so they are a little chunkier and BF prefers them that way.  Add butter, warm milk, s & p.  Love garlic but not in my potatoes.
Re:Mashed Potato as a side dish 2009/06/10 18:03:58
Try using either chicken or beef boullion disolved in whole cream and added to the mash. theboullion takes the place of salt and adds great flavor!
tmiles
Double Chili Cheeseburger
Re:Mashed Potato as a side dish 2013/01/23 09:21:59
A new variety of potato is coming out. It is a Univ of Idaho selection (no surprise there!!!) just named "Huckleberry Gold". It has been trialed for several years, under a number. (Few "numbered" varieties are ever judged good enough to be named and "released"). It has been tested  as a masher by several famous west coast chefs, and universally judged to be the very best. 
 
You will not see it soon, because seed is still in very short supply, and expensive. I bought 5 lbs. (my main crop will come from 50 lbs each of Red Norland, Purple Viking, and Red Gold).
 
For those of you who have a home garden, why not try some? Order your seed early! 
CCinNJ
Sirloin
Re:Mashed Potato as a side dish 2013/01/24 19:38:31
It may be considered cheating with lobster...but I really don't care.

The lobster mashed potatoes at Christos in Astoria.
lleechef
Sirloin
Re:Mashed Potato as a side dish 2013/01/24 19:47:38
Lobster with mashed potatoes?  Not for me.
SeamusD
Double Chili Cheeseburger
Re:Mashed Potato as a side dish 2013/01/25 11:03:10
Me neither. Chunks of smoked pork or brisket with lots of garlic though... like a KFC Famous Bowl, but you know, good.
pineyhill
Cheeseburger
Re:Mashed Potato as a side dish 2013/01/25 11:56:28
One of my favorite dinners, is pork chops made in cream of mushroom soup, mashed potatoes with home frozen sweet corn.  Always making sure to smother the potatoes and corn in the gravy.  mmmmmm good.
lleechef
Sirloin
Re:Mashed Potato as a side dish 2013/01/25 12:09:55
Seems I'm always making mashed potatoes.  MH loves them....with lamb shanks, meatloaf, turkey.......just about everything.  I'm not partial to mashed, I like pommes darphin but will only make it with roast duck.
Adjudicator
Sirloin
Re:Mashed Potato as a side dish 2013/01/26 08:02:52
rneiner
Hamburger
Re:Mashed Potato as a side dish 2013/01/26 08:26:32
Mashed sweet potatoes
Adjudicator
Sirloin
Re:Mashed Potato as a side dish 2013/01/26 10:36:27
Michael Hoffman
Double-chop Porterhouse
Re:Mashed Potato as a side dish 2013/01/26 11:34:25
lleechef 

I'm not partial to mashed, I like pommes darphin but will only make it with roast duck.

Which is why I've invited my daughter over for dinner soon. lleechef's pommes darphin is the most wonderful potato dish I've ever had in my life.
 
tmiles
Double Chili Cheeseburger
Re:Mashed Potato as a side dish 2013/01/27 08:50:06
I looked up pommes darphin (named after the chef who invented it). There seem to be lots of delicious looking variations. I've seen similar food passed off as "hash browns". I'll be trying it with dinner soon.......yum. I'm always the last to know.......lleechef is Michael's daughter? Lucky guy!!!!
Michael Hoffman
Double-chop Porterhouse
Re:Mashed Potato as a side dish 2013/01/27 11:18:08
tmiles

I looked up pommes darphin (named after the chef who invented it). There seem to be lots of delicious looking variations. I've seen similar food passed off as "hash browns". I'll be trying it with dinner soon.......yum. I'm always the last to know.......lleechef is Michael's daughter? Lucky guy!!!!

lleechef is Michael's wife. He's even luckier. I invited the daughter for dinner because that way I can get lleechef to make the roast duck and pommes darphin.

agnesrob
Double Chili Cheeseburger
Re:Mashed Potato as a side dish 2013/01/27 13:17:07
I'm looking up some recipes for lobster mashed potatoes. Never thought of that before. I've had and made lobster macaroni & cheese and always feel that the lobster gets a little overshadowed by the cheeses used. I could definitely see it in mashed potatoes.
kevincad
Cheeseburger
Re:Mashed Potato as a side dish 2013/01/27 13:18:29
Rusty246

I grew up on very smooth mashed potatoes so I always made mine smooth until my mixer died.  Now I hand mash so they are a little chunkier and BF prefers them that way.  Add butter, warm milk, s & p.  Love garlic but not in my potatoes.

Yes, indeed. I don't care much for riced or whipped potatoes, they get pasty when done that way. Mashed with a masher, russets not cooked to oblivion, use evap. milk and they are great!!! I grew up in western NY, potato country, my wife grew up in Calif. She will boil potatoes, then when they are done, turn off the heat, leave them in the hot water until she's darned ready to deal with them. Then she'll either rice them or whip them with a hand mixer. They are ALWAYS pasty and the only way to eat them is with enough gravy to overcome the paste! Needless to say, I cook the potatoes!!
JRPfeff
Filet Mignon
Re:Mashed Potato as a side dish 2013/01/27 13:26:01
I posted this in my trip report, but seeing an active post for mashed potatoes I thought I'd add my 2 cents.
 

 
I had this meal of country fried steak and mashed potatoes at the Rose Garden Restaurant in Silverpoint, TN.  The steak & gravy were good, but the highlight of my meal was the mashed potatoes. With no gravy or butter on top, I had low expectations, but these were great.  The potatoes were moist and had a slight tang, my wife said they must use buttermilk in them.  We asked the waitress and she confirmed it was the buttermilk I was tasting.  Best mashed potatoes ever!  The Rose Garden is worth a stop just for them.
post edited by JRPfeff - 2013/01/27 13:28:36
CCinNJ
Sirloin
Re:Mashed Potato as a side dish 2013/01/27 14:22:50
Agnes...I don't know if she has shared the recipe anywhere but the Christos lobster mashed potatoes are by Chef Mina Newman...a "Chopped Champion"
kevincad
Cheeseburger
Re:Mashed Potato as a side dish 2013/01/27 16:23:33
Fieldthistle

Hello All,
I love mashed potatoes with plenty of pepper and salt in
it.  and when I am in a mood, I'll swirl in some yellow mustard.
Mashed potatoes goes with any meat I eat...any meat.
It is the perfect side dish, and mix it corn, it is even better.
Take Care,
Fieldthistle

Yes., I agree, I can make a whole meal of mashed potatoes and corn that has been cooked with some butter!! Or peas... 
leethebard
Sirloin
Re:Mashed Potato as a side dish 2013/01/27 16:44:26
I agree...love to blend in corn with my mashed potatoes...that made my school food edible!!!!!
kland01s
Filet Mignon
Re:Mashed Potato as a side dish 2013/01/27 16:53:45
kevincad

Fieldthistle

Hello All,
I love mashed potatoes with plenty of pepper and salt in
it.  and when I am in a mood, I'll swirl in some yellow mustard.
Mashed potatoes goes with any meat I eat...any meat.
It is the perfect side dish, and mix it corn, it is even better.
Take Care,
Fieldthistle

Yes., I agree, I can make a whole meal of mashed potatoes and corn that has been cooked with some butter!! Or peas... 

 
Miss reports from Fieldthistle.....
Foodbme
Porterhouse
Re:Mashed Potato as a side dish 2013/01/27 19:01:26
Let's get this straight right now.
Based on all the comments above, Mashed Potatoes are NOT a side dish!
They are the Main Dish!
Everything else served with them is a side dish.
End of Discussion!!!!!
SPUDS RULE!!!
(BTW, where did the term "Spuds" come from?)
Michael Hoffman
Double-chop Porterhouse
Re:Mashed Potato as a side dish 2013/01/27 19:09:42
Well, there was this dog, see. And he loved to dig in the dirt for potatoes because he really liked to have French fries with his beer. The dog's name was Spuds McKenzie. So that's how come potatoes are called Spuds.
johndsweeney
Junior Burger
Re:Mashed Potato as a side dish 2013/01/28 18:48:51
According to Wikipedia, the term spud comes from a Dutch word meaning small digging tool.  This is also where the word spade comes from.
 
John D. Sweeney
Herndon, va
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