Ketchup on a hot dog

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NYPIzzaNut
Filet Mignon
RE: Ketchup on a hot dog 2008/12/08 00:17:22
quote:
Originally posted by Michael Hoffman

Surely there must be someone out there who finds the idea of catsup on a hotdog to be wrong.
It is as wrong as mustard on a burger.
wanderingjew
Sirloin
RE: Ketchup on a hot dog 2008/12/08 08:19:06
quote:
Originally posted by NYPIzzaNut

quote:
Originally posted by Michael Hoffman

Surely there must be someone out there who finds the idea of catsup on a hotdog to be wrong.
It is as wrong as mustard on a burger.


I agree, I never heard of putting mustard on a burger until I left the confines of the NYC metro area. Even the local fast food chains didn't.
PapaJoe8
Sirloin
RE: Ketchup on a hot dog 2008/12/08 20:04:31
Hey, I'm a mayo burger guy all the way! Wanderer, maybe a mayo on a hot dog thread?

Roossy, it's hard for me to get my mind around you having a job but I hear it's food related. But... if you are doing something you love... it's not really a job!!!

Hmmm, where is that "kraut on a hot dog thread? Reminds me of a song "I hope someday you'll join us... and the world will be as one". Hmm, who sang that???.

Joe, I'm back for a while but... be carefull what you wish for! :~)
Joe
NYPIzzaNut
Filet Mignon
RE: Ketchup on a hot dog 2008/12/08 20:28:26
quote:
Originally posted by wanderingjew

quote:
Originally posted by NYPIzzaNut

quote:
Originally posted by Michael Hoffman

Surely there must be someone out there who finds the idea of catsup on a hotdog to be wrong.
It is as wrong as mustard on a burger.


I agree, I never heard of putting mustard on a burger until I left the confines of the NYC metro area. Even the local fast food chains didn't.
I left Yonkers and went to Killeen, TX (Fort Hood) in 1966 and that mustard hamburger about killed me. I never trusted a hamburger I bought in the South from that terrible moment on. Even living in the greater Cincinnati area you sometimes get stuck with a mustard burger. HORRIBLE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PapaJoe8
Sirloin
RE: Ketchup on a hot dog 2008/12/08 20:45:15
NYP, well said!
Joe
joerogo
Filet Mignon
RE: Ketchup on a hot dog 2008/12/08 20:57:23
quote:
Originally posted by PapaJoe8

NYP, well said!
Joe


PapaJoe, Still working on that Texas hot Dog? It has potential!
PapaJoe8
Sirloin
RE: Ketchup on a hot dog 2008/12/10 14:11:24
I have not had time Joe. Thanks! I think the po is there also. I want a mesquite smoked dog w/ jalapenos and???
Joe
Russ Jackson
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Ketchup on a hot dog 2008/12/16 16:11:37
http://www.hotdogchicagostyle.com/chicagodog.php

Where's the Ketchup?
As mentioned earlier, the toppings are just as important as the Hot Dog itself. If you look at the required toppings for a Chicago Dog, you will notice that Ketchup is not listed among them. Ketchup is an ingredient frowned upon by Hot Dog aficionados. Although ketchup remains one of the most popular condiments on Hot Dogs, "properly made" Hot Dogs, like the Chicago Style, usually lack the condiment.

Those who consider themselves Hot Dog connoisseurs are often vehemently opposed to eating (or even witnessing) Hot Dogs with ketchup; they think the flavor of ketchup overpowers and destroys the taste of the Hot Dog instead of complementing it. Nowhere is this difference in opinion more apparent than in Chicago.

The inclusion of ketchup on a Chicago Style Hot Dog is a controversial issue. Most adult Chicagoans will shun ketchup. Chicago Hot Dog stands will not, as a rule, put ketchup on a Chicago Dog. Some stands will provide ketchup although you are responsible for defacing your Dog.

"You know what makes me really sick to my stomach? It's watching you stuff your face with those Hot Dogs! Nobody - I mean nobody puts ketchup on a Hot Dog!". - This is a famous line from the movie Sudden Impact starring Clint Eastwood.

The National Hot Dog & Sausage Council, in its recommendations for proper Hot Dog Etiquette capitulate only slightly to the public's general regard for ketchup, saying "Don't use ketchup on your hot dog after the age of 18.".


...Russ
PapaJoe8
Sirloin
RE: Ketchup on a hot dog 2008/12/16 22:03:06
Russ, that Dirty Harry clip is on this thread somewhere. It's fun to watch!
Joe
Scorereader
Sirloin
RE: Ketchup on a hot dog 2008/12/17 00:15:30
The hot dog joint in the town I grew up, didn't even have ketchup the whole time I lived there. They were hard core. It wasn't until fries hit the menu that ketchup found it's way into the restaurant.
Although, some people guess that they got the frier so that they could make fries so that they could have an excuse to have ketchup in the restaurant so that the long time hot dog joint's aficianados wouldn't revolt.
Incidentally, the place originated as a hot dog stand in 1886. Ketchup has been in the restaurant, because of the fries, for only about the last ten maybe fifteen years or so.

Even to this day, it's not uncommone to see the ketchup users look around to see who's looking (or rather to make sure no one is looking) before putting ketchup on their dog!
MiamiDon
Filet Mignon
RE: Ketchup on a hot dog 2008/12/17 05:20:59
In free-thinking Amsterdam, the hot dog wagons not only offer ketchup for your hot dog, in addition to mustard, but they offer mayonnaise and curry sauce as well.




For the curious, follow http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/61/Hotdogamsterdam.JPG  to Wikipedia, and keep clicking on the photo to enlarge it so that you can read the labels on the dispenser.
post edited by MiamiDon - 2008/12/18 05:57:49
joerogo
Filet Mignon
RE: Ketchup on a hot dog 2008/12/17 17:29:11
Ketchup or not, that's a cool hot dog cart.
joerogo
Filet Mignon
RE: Ketchup on a hot dog 2008/12/17 17:32:36
quote:
Originally posted by PapaJoe8

Russ, that Dirty Harry clip is on this thread somewhere. It's fun to watch!
Joe



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5JIpT4GkyM
jaylhorner
Cheeseburger
RE: Ketchup on a hot dog 2008/12/17 19:33:47
Yug!
PapaJoe8
Sirloin
RE: Ketchup on a hot dog 2009/04/20 21:31:54
Roossy... HI! Sorry I missed this. Sorry you didn't make Texas. :~(

Hey you gotta try those Nathan's skinless (that's all you can get in Texas) boiled in Shiner Bach beer!!! Poke some holes in em first though. The last ones I made never made it to a bun, They barly made it outa the pot. No ketchup, no mustard, no nothin. Just munch em up! :!)
Joe
WarToad
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Ketchup on a hot dog 2009/04/21 09:10:49
MiamiDon

In free-thinking Amsterdam, the hot dog wagons not only offer ketchup for your hot dog, in addition to mustard, but they offer mayonnaise and curry sauce as well.


Nice little cart!  The Germans have a very popular snack called the Currywurst.  (Curry on a bratwust.  I know, sounds odd, but it's very tasty.)   Being next to Germany, it's not terribly surprising curry has found it's way over.
GNeedles59
Double Cheeseburger
RE: Ketchup on a hot dog 2009/04/21 09:14:46
Oh no, zombie thread!


WarToad
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Ketchup on a hot dog 2009/04/21 09:17:09
/Necro
JMG
Junior Burger
RE: Ketchup on a hot dog 2009/04/21 09:27:57
I suppose it's a matter of personal preference but a Chicago-Style hot dog comes with dynamite sticks, onions, relish, mustard, pickle slice and tomato wedges, no ketchup. Each to their own but I never put ketchup on a hot dog.
GNeedles59
Double Cheeseburger
RE: Ketchup on a hot dog 2009/04/21 09:29:15
JMG

I suppose it's a matter of personal preference but a Chicago-Style hot dog comes with dynamite sticks, onions, relish, mustard, pickle slice and tomato wedges, no ketchup. Each to their own but I never put ketchup on a hot dog.


But since you prefer Chi-town dogs, you put everything else on em
WarToad
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Ketchup on a hot dog 2009/04/21 09:39:51
GNeedles59

JMG

I suppose it's a matter of personal preference but a Chicago-Style hot dog comes with dynamite sticks, onions, relish, mustard, pickle slice and tomato wedges, no ketchup. Each to their own but I never put ketchup on a hot dog.


But since you prefer Chi-town dogs, you put everything else on em

 
Seriously.  If you have 2lbs of other condements on it, what a squirt of ketchup?  It's like adding a match to a bonfire.


JMG
Junior Burger
RE: Ketchup on a hot dog 2009/04/21 09:54:01
2lbs? Like I said, it's a matter of personal preference. I never put ketchup on a hot dog. You probably put ketchup on a good steak.
Tony Bad
Fire Safety Admin
RE: Ketchup on a hot dog 2009/04/21 10:17:27
WarToad

GNeedles59

JMG

I suppose it's a matter of personal preference but a Chicago-Style hot dog comes with dynamite sticks, onions, relish, mustard, pickle slice and tomato wedges, no ketchup. Each to their own but I never put ketchup on a hot dog.


But since you prefer Chi-town dogs, you put everything else on em

 
Seriously.  If you have 2lbs of other condements on it, what a squirt of ketchup?  It's like adding a match to a bonfire.


Yes...I apply this same logic to all dishes with a lot of ingredients. Yesterday I added chocolate chips to a southwest chopped salad and the day before I put some peanut butter in my Sunday gravy. With all the stuff already in there, what is one more thing gonna do?  
joerogo
Filet Mignon
RE: Ketchup on a hot dog 2009/04/21 10:22:24
Sorry Tony,  I must revoke your Italian Heritage.  Pick a new letter for the end of your name.  I am confiscating the vowel.
WarToad
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Ketchup on a hot dog 2009/04/21 10:25:13
Tony ~
 
Using your anology, then since it appears ketchup, being tomato based and spiced, is inappropriate for a hotdog.  Thusly, tomato slices are inappropriate for a hotdog.  Pickles being spiced, are inappropriate for a hotdog.  I fully and absolutely agree with you.
Tony Bad
Fire Safety Admin
RE: Ketchup on a hot dog 2009/04/21 10:39:32
WarToad

Tony ~
 
Using your anology, then since it appears ketchup, being tomato based and spiced, is inappropriate for a hotdog.  Thusly, tomato slices are inappropriate for a hotdog.  Pickles being spiced, are inappropriate for a hotdog.  I fully and absolutely agree with you.


No you missed my point! What I was saying is that you are correct...once something reaches a threshold of ingredients you can just add anything and it won't even be noticed. Cake icing on a nice chicken curry...grilled onions on a nice butterscotch caramel cheesecake. Anything goes!!   
Tony Bad
Fire Safety Admin
RE: Ketchup on a hot dog 2009/04/21 10:40:22
joerogo

Sorry Tony,  I must revoke your Italian Heritage.  Pick a new letter for the end of your name.  I am confiscating the vowel.



Hey don't I get points for making Sunday gravy?
 
joerogo
Filet Mignon
RE: Ketchup on a hot dog 2009/04/21 10:46:38
Yeah, but you lost points for calling your sauce , gravy
Tony Bad
Fire Safety Admin
RE: Ketchup on a hot dog 2009/04/21 10:57:37
joerogo

Yeah, but you lost points for calling your sauce , gravy


Oh Joe you have strayed from your Italian roots. My grandmother often told us sauce is something you put on ice cream and cake...gravy is what you put over macaroni (pasta? what is that?) or meat.

Sorry to stray from the important discussion.
GNeedles59
Double Cheeseburger
RE: Ketchup on a hot dog 2009/04/21 11:06:33
Even this non Italian knows that gravy is what you make on Sunday.  Even if I still can't do it well. 
joerogo
Filet Mignon
RE: Ketchup on a hot dog 2009/04/21 11:42:54
Tony Bad

joerogo

Yeah, but you lost points for calling your sauce , gravy



Sorry to stray from the important discussion.

 
You are right Tony, Let's get back on topic before PapaJoe gets back


Michael Hoffman
Double-chop Porterhouse
RE: Ketchup on a hot dog 2009/04/21 12:09:38
Tony Bad

joerogo

Sorry Tony,  I must revoke your Italian Heritage.  Pick a new letter for the end of your name.  I am confiscating the vowel.



Hey don't I get points for making Sunday gravy?


No.  But you get points for adding peanut butter to it. Here I've been racking my brain for three years trying to figure out what I could add to make my Sunday gravy more like Mrs. Landino's, and then you come up with it in a flash. Amazing. My hat is off to you sir.
 
Hmm. Maybe some apricot preserves next year to make her apizza gain better.
seafarer john
Filet Mignon
RE: Ketchup on a hot dog 2009/04/21 12:12:45
This ketchup on a hotdog business is just the sort of inflammatory social issue that should not be allowed on these boards. This is not a food issue; it is an attack by the barbarians on the very foundations of Western culture and civilization.

I demand that it be locked and banned forever!

Cheers, John 
Tony Bad
Fire Safety Admin
RE: Ketchup on a hot dog 2009/04/21 12:18:52
seafarer john

This ketchup on a hotdog business is just the sort of inflammatory social issue that should not be allowed on these boards. This is not a food issue; it is an attack by the barbarians on the very foundations of Western culture and civilization.

I demand that it be locked and banned forever!

Cheers, John


Sorry John, but  attacks by barbarians on the very foundations of Western culture and civilization is not against forum rules, so we really can't justify a ban. 
JMG
Junior Burger
RE: Ketchup on a hot dog 2009/04/21 13:18:19
"Nobody...but nobody...puts ketchup on a hot dog."

Dirty Harry.
Michael Hoffman
Double-chop Porterhouse
RE: Ketchup on a hot dog 2009/04/21 14:00:05
JMG

"Nobody...but nobody...puts ketchup on a hot dog."

Dirty Harry.


I guess you missed this:
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5JIpT4GkyM 
TJ Jackson
Filet Mignon
RE: Ketchup on a hot dog 2009/04/21 14:19:57
Are we talking unblended ketchup or 50/50 blends here?
PapaJoe8
Sirloin
RE: Ketchup on a hot dog 2009/04/21 18:23:27
Now days to get the true 50/50 blend you gotta mix in some pineapple. Hmm, now that does sound good on the right kinda dog!
Joe
MikeS.
Fire Safety Admin
RE: Ketchup on a hot dog 2009/04/24 22:08:08
I still put ketchup on my dogs AND I like beans in my chili(beans). Sorry Uncle.
PapaJoe8
Sirloin
RE: Ketchup on a hot dog 2009/05/24 21:34:41
Roossy, I hope things are going well! I would love to try one of those frankin salmon dogs they have in Florida.

Relish??? A big hot dog hit for the kids in my neighborhood for years was a jumbo 8/1 dog on lightly toasted white bread w/ relish and mustard but... it was dill relish. With sweet relish they used mayo. Let kids call tha shots on how to fix a dog and who knows what they might come up with???

Oh, turkey dogs have become a must for some of the more figure minded girls in my family.  And Oh...  w/ ketchup!
Joe
Bill Reynolds
Cheeseburger
RE: Ketchup on a hot dog 2009/05/25 01:15:24
CajunKing

My family enjoys the cheap dawgs, (strange people they are), so I have to doctor a dawg with CATSUP, mustard.

When I splurge and buy the good stuff, I dress them with onions, relish, cheese, a spicy mustard or a good stone ground.

My Grandfather while he was alive would raid the fridge every night before bed time and eat 2 hot dawgs straight from the fridge, no nothing on them cold from the pack. I still find myself doing that on occaision, reaching into the fridge and pulling out a cold dawg to nibble on.


I have done the same thing on many occasions, that is eating a raw dog. When my wife and I go camping and take Patches,our dog, I have many times sat down with her and shared a pack of dogs. She will do 5 to my 1 but whatever, it is good. K-9, human bonding. I prefer my hot dogs with creamy cole slaw and mustard, but if I don't have that it no big deal.
 
I think the Chigago style dogs look awful but have never ate one so who am I to say. I am pretty sure I would never try one. They just do not look good, IMHO.
 
For me it all boils down to whatever floats your boat.
joerogo
Filet Mignon
RE: Ketchup on a hot dog 2009/05/25 07:54:21
Here is a pic from a HD Cart in Rome, Italy.  Sure as heck doesn't make me hungry.
 

I would like two of those hoagies though.
NYPIzzaNut
Filet Mignon
RE: Ketchup on a hot dog 2009/05/25 10:51:56
The condiment of choice for my hotdogs:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/20/dining/20united.html?_r=2&ref=dining

(and for burgers, eggs, ribs etc etc.....)
John Fox
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Ketchup on a hot dog 2009/05/25 16:02:46
Here is a great thread regarding ketchup on a hot dog.

http://www.roadfood.com/Forums/For-you-Dog-Snobs-no-ketchup-m391766.aspx
PapaJoe8
Sirloin
RE: Ketchup on a hot dog 2009/05/25 16:25:41
Great thread John! I stand by my comments on page 2 there.
Joe
post edited by PapaJoe8 - 2009/05/25 17:31:04
tusti
Cheeseburger
RE: Ketchup on a hot dog 2009/05/25 17:22:49

You are allowed to drag a French fry through a puddle of ketchup if you must, but other than that, NO, NO, NO
WarToad
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Ketchup on a hot dog 2009/05/25 17:27:50
NYPIzzaNut

The condiment of choice for my hotdogs:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/20/dining/20united.html?_r=2&ref=dining

(and for burgers, eggs, ribs etc etc.....)


Same here, unless I'm enjoying a premium hot dog, then I go back to the basics.
PapaJoe8
Sirloin
RE: Ketchup on a hot dog 2009/05/25 17:28:32
Tusti, did you read the first 11 pages of this thread???
Joe
Jennie
Cheeseburger
RE: Ketchup on a hot dog 2009/05/26 15:59:40
NYPIzzaNut

The condiment of choice for my hotdogs:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/20/dining/20united.html?_r=2&ref=dining

(and for burgers, eggs, ribs etc etc.....)


Ah, "chicken sauce", as a couple of Mexicans I knew called it, who did the Mongolian Barbecue in Annapolis years back. It's a zen thing to have your Mongolian BBQ cooked by Mexicans. Ommmmm.
 
I like ketchup and sweet pickle relish on my hot dogs. But I won't tell you what to put on yours and you let me condiment mine the way I like.  You'ns can have all the mustard or whatever for y'seves.
PapaJoe8
Sirloin
RE: Ketchup on a hot dog 2009/05/26 19:35:14
Well said Jen!!!

My Bro , a Marine pilot, had some REAL Mongolian BBQ in Mongolia... cooked on a shield over an open fire, by Mongolians. That's Roadfood! Wish I had been there!!!
Joe

Oh, no ketchup on MBBQ. That's just wrong!!! :~)
Joe
joerogo
Filet Mignon
RE: Ketchup on a hot dog 2009/05/26 19:48:04
PapaJoe8

Oh, no ketchup on MBBQ. That's just wrong!!! :~)
Joe

 
You're the best JoePapa!!!
 


 
PapaJoe8
Sirloin
RE: Ketchup on a hot dog 2009/05/27 09:20:14
What to say Joe??? Hmmm... thanks!

I just bought some of the new Ball Park 8/1 Angus dogs. I was sceptical but they were on sale for $1.50. They got great reviews from my family. Some wanted theirs w/ mustard and dill relish. Some wanted theirs w/ mayo down one side and ketchup down the other. I had mine w/ pickled nacho sliced jalapenos. My dog Scruffy wanted his plain. Hey... it's a dog eat dog world. I'm just glad we are free to make our own choices! :~)
Joe
russ2304
Cheeseburger
RE: Ketchup on a hot dog 2009/05/27 11:02:56
Hey PapaJoe--------------let the  dogs have their day-----------for my dogs give me the dreaded ketchup,yellow mustard.sweet pickle relish and chopped red onion--dat be Good Eats!
 
Russ
 
Now let all the--------PURIST?-------- start the firing squad again. This be so much fun!!!!!
easydoesit
Double Cheeseburger
RE: Ketchup on a hot dog 2009/05/28 07:33:06
russ2304

------for my dogs give me the dreaded ketchup,yellow mustard.sweet pickle relish and chopped red onion--dat be Good Eats!
 

 
I've only had that about a jillion times!


PapaJoe8
Sirloin
RE: Ketchup on a hot dog 2009/05/28 18:26:42
I have not had that combo but... will for sure give it a try.

Does anyone like mustard and dill relish besides me?
Joe
enginecapt
Filet Mignon
RE: Ketchup on a hot dog 2009/05/30 08:50:07
Trader Joe's green olive tapenade on a hot dog. Raw onion and avocado slices. Nothing else.
PapaJoe8
Sirloin
RE: Ketchup on a hot dog 2009/05/30 08:56:29
WOW, that sounds great Capt! I love green olives on almost anything. You would not want to mix ketchup w/ that mix.
Joe
enginecapt
Filet Mignon
RE: Ketchup on a hot dog 2009/05/30 09:37:10
Not that. But I do insist on ketchup on my chili dogs. And avocados. Californians put avocados on everything.
NYPIzzaNut
Filet Mignon
RE: Ketchup on a hot dog 2009/05/30 17:32:35
enginecapt

Not that. But I do insist on ketchup on my chili dogs. And avocados. Californians put avocados on everything.
Yeah I know - I heard what they do their pizzas.


PapaJoe8
Sirloin
RE: Ketchup on a hot dog 2009/06/01 17:37:15
Capt, ketchup on a chili dog is kinda like ketchup in chili. Shhh, I have been known to slip some in a pot of chili... especially if there are a bunch of hungry kids around. Avocados and chili... hmmm?

NYP, avocadas and pizza... hmmm?
Joe
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