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tomato pie - Fri, 08/3/07 10:45 PM
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tomato pie
Found in Italian American communities, especially Utica N.Y.
Served at Room temperature. Made with Crushed tomatoes and Parmesan cheese on a precooked pizza shell.

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RE: tomato pie - Sat, 08/4/07 12:36 AM
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so it's just crushed tomotos and parm cheese???
I love tomatos but that seems like it would be a little bland.
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RE: tomato pie - Sat, 08/4/07 12:44 AM
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Sounds like it would be a good snack.

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RE: tomato pie - Sat, 08/4/07 12:45 AM
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Not bland at all! We've had this a few times in Utica and, correct me if I'm wrong here ynotryme, but the crushed tomatoes seem to be cooked down but still lumpy, fairly sweet, and just a little spicy. And the cheese is sharp. It's truly addictive. Seems to be all over Utica. We remember it used to be the same way in Binghamton in the 70's but for some reason, it just doesn't exist there anymore. Someone needs to do a full Utica tomato pie survey - a very worthwhile task!

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RE: tomato pie - Mon, 08/6/07 4:26 PM
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I became familiar with this version of tomato pie when I lived in Utica, NY. I still have it on occasion when I visit there. I find it unique and tasty. It is not at all like a pizza. Nor is it like Trenton, NJ tomato pie.

I would highly recommend it to any one visiting in the Utica, NY area. However, I worked with a guy from Bethlehem, PA who used to bring it to work on occasion. I never did find out where he bought it.

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RE: tomato pie - Mon, 08/6/07 5:13 PM
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yes it includes spices and is cooked down into a sauce
Tomato Pie Recipe
3 tbsp. extra-virgin olive oil
2 cloves garlic
1 28-to-32-oz. can crushed tomatoes
1 tsp. dried oregano
salt and pepper to taste
1 lb. pizza dough
3 tbsp. grated Pecorino Romano cheese
Preheat oven to 450°F. Stretch the pizza dough to cover a greased cookie sheet. Dough should be fairly thick (about 3/4 inch). Allow the dough to rise a bit while the sauce is cooking. Heat a saucepan on medium, add the olive oil and garlic, and sauté until the garlic is just golden. Add crushed tomatoes and oregano. Cook until the sauce is thickened, about 15-20 minutes. Cool the sauce to room temperature. Top the pizza dough with the sauce and then bake in 450°F oven for about 15-20 minutes. After removing the pie from the oven, sprinkle with the cheese. Let the pie cool to room temperature before eating.

Recipe by Frank DuRoss Jr.

for an easier way use Don Pepino pizza sauce on a pizza shell, top with grated cheese bake, cool and serve at room temperature.that's how De Iorios bakery in Utica does it. http://www.deiorios.com/

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RE: tomato pie - Mon, 08/6/07 5:32 PM
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That is the same pizza seerved at Senape's, called "pitza"; see the other thread related to this. I've never seen it other places, but I've spent no time in Utica, either.


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RE: tomato pie - Mon, 08/6/07 6:35 PM
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Mosca, The pics of Pitza appear to have Mozzarella on them. Tomato pies don't. Like them though, slices of tomato pies are sold at gas stations and convenience stores. They are a great, quick snack, esp. on the go. P.S. I knew a lot of Mosca's growing up in Rome N.Y.

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RE: tomato pie - Mon, 08/6/07 6:49 PM
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FWIW -

When I lived in Utica (1985-1992) I used to call the meal served during the holiday season "The Utica Buffet". It seemed like they always served it at work for what used to be called a Christmas Party. A lot of people also served it at home.

The buffet was sausage & peppers, baked ziti, at least half of a tomato pie, and tossed salad or antipasto with Italian dressing. It seemed like I would eat this meal about a dozen times (exaggeration) between Thanksgiving and New Year. I managed to sample a lot of tomato pies during that time.

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RE: tomato pie - Mon, 08/6/07 6:57 PM
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Akavar, add baked chicken to the list and you have the meal served at most weddings in the Utica-Rome area.

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RE: tomato pie - Mon, 08/6/07 7:23 PM
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Hhmm - I don't remember baked chicken.

Of course now you get chicken riggie's at a lot parties.

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RE: tomato pie - Tue, 08/7/07 3:06 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by ynotryme

yes it includes spices and is cooked down into a sauce
Tomato Pie Recipe
3 tbsp. extra-virgin olive oil
2 cloves garlic
1 28-to-32-oz. can crushed tomatoes
1 tsp. dried oregano
salt and pepper to taste
1 lb. pizza dough
3 tbsp. grated Pecorino Romano cheese
Preheat oven to 450°F. Stretch the pizza dough to cover a greased cookie sheet. Dough should be fairly thick (about 3/4 inch). Allow the dough to rise a bit while the sauce is cooking. Heat a saucepan on medium, add the olive oil and garlic, and sauté until the garlic is just golden. Add crushed tomatoes and oregano. Cook until the sauce is thickened, about 15-20 minutes. Cool the sauce to room temperature. Top the pizza dough with the sauce and then bake in 450°F oven for about 15-20 minutes. After removing the pie from the oven, sprinkle with the cheese. Let the pie cool to room temperature before eating.

Recipe by Frank DuRoss Jr.

for an easier way use Don Pepino pizza sauce on a pizza shell, top with grated cheese bake, cool and serve at room temperature.that's how De Iorios bakery in Utica does it. http://www.deiorios.com/


that sounds good!!! at first i thought you ment crushed toms and parm
its like pizza without all the cheese...sounds very tasty....
thanks
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RE: tomato pie - Tue, 08/7/07 8:37 AM
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Originally posted by ynotryme

Mosca, The pics of Pitza appear to have Mozzarella on them. Tomato pies don't. Like them though, slices of tomato pies are sold at gas stations and convenience stores. They are a great, quick snack, esp. on the go. P.S. I knew a lot of Mosca's growing up in Rome N.Y.


Senape's has a lot of Romano cheese as well. The mozzarella is probably a regional variation of a regional variation!


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RE: tomato pie - Tue, 08/7/07 8:44 AM
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There's a similar type of pizza that's popular in RI. I don't think they use cheese at all, but have a nice spicy sauce. Typically it comes from bakeries, but when I was a kid it was sold at convenience stores, candy stores and the like in basically 2" x4" strips, wrapped in wax paper printed with the bakery name. They sold for about the same price as a candy bar. It was pretty co mmon for kids to go to the penny candy store and get a slice of pizza (and yes, it was just called pizza).

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RE: tomato pie - Tue, 08/7/07 3:11 PM
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another popular food from CNY is sausage bread. you spread dough out like for a pizza, crumble precooked Italian hot or sweet sausage and mozzarella cheese on top, roll it like a jelly roll, pinch the ends. apply an egg wash, bake at 400 until golden brown. some people add peppers, onions and either spinach or greens before they roll it. some add sesame seeds on top of the roll before they bake it. served sliced. good both hot or room temperature.

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RE: tomato pie - Tue, 08/7/07 3:17 PM
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Don't forget mushroom stew. I would love to have a recipe for that.

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RE: tomato pie - Tue, 08/7/07 3:17 PM
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Originally posted by Ashphalt

There's a similar type of pizza that's popular in RI. I don't think they use cheese at all, but have a nice spicy sauce. Typically it comes from bakeries, but when I was a kid it was sold at convenience stores, candy stores and the like in basically 2" x4" strips, wrapped in wax paper printed with the bakery name. They sold for about the same price as a candy bar. It was pretty co mmon for kids to go to the penny candy store and get a slice of pizza (and yes, it was just called pizza).


It wasnt called "pizza strips"? I am not a native RI'er but live here now and thats all I hear it being called these days...

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RE: tomato pie - Sat, 08/11/07 8:07 PM
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Akavar, Easton Bakery up by you has "Bakery Pizza" which is tomatoe pie and very good. I am back from vaca and hope to see you when we hit Coney Island the last week in August...

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RE: tomato pie - Tue, 08/14/07 2:12 PM
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Thanks for the tip about Easton Bakery. I will have to try that. Please kepp me in the loop re the Coney Island visit. I would really like to do that one.

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RE: tomato pie - Thu, 08/16/07 11:27 AM
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I am actually heading to the corner pizza joint...Italian Chef, in Syracuse in a few minutes. They do an awsome tomato pie...Of course the quality of the sauce is all important to success...good tomatoes..good tomato pie. I love it when I hanker for pizza but don't want all the cheese...

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RE: tomato pie - Thu, 08/16/07 11:44 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by renfrew

quote:
Originally posted by Ashphalt

There's a similar type of pizza that's popular in RI. I don't think they use cheese at all, but have a nice spicy sauce. Typically it comes from bakeries, but when I was a kid it was sold at convenience stores, candy stores and the like in basically 2" x4" strips, wrapped in wax paper printed with the bakery name. They sold for about the same price as a candy bar. It was pretty co mmon for kids to go to the penny candy store and get a slice of pizza (and yes, it was just called pizza).


It wasnt called "pizza strips"? I am not a native RI'er but live here now and thats all I hear it being called these days...


Maybe it was just my neighborhood, or the time. We didn't start calling them pizza "strips" until around high school (mid-70s).

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RE: tomato pie - Sat, 08/16/08 6:35 PM
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ynotryme Thank you so for your recipe!! My husband grew up in Binghampton and told me "Countless" times about the greatest "pizza" from Cortese's, Tomato pie. He checked their menu about 2 years ago and found that there was no longer any tomato pie . Tonight after finding your recipe, I surprised him with a pie!! He was so impressed!! He said it was almost the pie he grew up on! Thanks again for making his day and mine

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RE: tomato pie - Sun, 08/17/08 4:05 PM
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The tomato pie I grew up with is a bit different. Its a real tomato type pie, take a pie crust and slice up fresh red tomatoes with other seasonings and bake in the oven. Serve room temp.

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RE: tomato pie - Mon, 08/18/08 8:44 AM
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Originally posted by ynotryme

tomato pie
Found in Italian American communities, especially Utica N.Y.
Served at Room temperature. Made with Crushed tomatoes and Parmesan cheese on a precooked pizza shell.


Looks dry to me...and that sauce better be great...seems on this kind of pie the sauce is everything!!!!

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RE: tomato pie - Mon, 08/18/08 9:35 AM
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I dunno Lee.. Looks like a decent amount of tomato on top (even soaking into the crust there). A year later, that slice still looks darn tasty! Maybe grate a little more parm on top of it though..


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RE: tomato pie - Mon, 08/18/08 10:05 AM
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My focaccia with sauce, although a tad thicker, would be similar to a tomato pie, no? Although pizza still rules in this house, the "tomato pie" provides a pleasant change of pace. pb


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RE: tomato pie - Mon, 08/18/08 12:19 PM
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Looks good Porkbeaks! Is that sliced sausage I see on there?

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RE: tomato pie - Mon, 08/18/08 12:31 PM
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Looks good Porkbeaks! Is that sliced sausage I see on there?



Yup, sweet Italian. pb

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RE: tomato pie - Mon, 08/18/08 5:40 PM
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Growing up in New Haven everyone called apizza tomato pie.

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RE: tomato pie - Mon, 08/18/08 6:51 PM
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My wife turned in this tomato pie last year at the Taste of Grand Rapids.



It was filled with fresh tomatoes, mayonaise, white cheddar and fresh basil. I baked it in my smoker. It was outstanding.

Note - I corrected the ingredients after checking with my wife.

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RE: tomato pie - Mon, 08/18/08 8:16 PM
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My wife turned in this tomato pie last year at the Taste of Grand Rapids.

It was filled with fresh tomatoes, homemade ricotta, Parmigiano-Reggiano and fresh basil. I baked it in my smoker. It was outstanding.


It definitely looks outstanding. How long did you bake it and at what temp? I assume you didn't put smoke on it. pb

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RE: tomato pie - Mon, 08/18/08 9:18 PM
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It definitely looks outstanding. How long did you bake it and at what temp? I assume you didn't put smoke on it. pb

I didn't use smoke wood, just charcoal.

The pie cooked at 350 for 30 minutes. There are several similar pies on the web.

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RE: tomato pie - Wed, 08/27/08 10:19 PM
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After 3 weeks of Tomato Pie making the Hubby says no more Pizza! I'm still shocked!! I found a recipe for dough on line and I wish I could remember which site I found it on....but it goes like this:

3 1/2 Cups flour(I never need this much)
1 Cup warm water
2 Tablespoons Yeast(1 package of Fleischman's Active dry yeast)
2 Tablespoons Honey
1/4 Cup Olive Oil(Extra Virgin light)
1/2 Teaspoon Salt

Mix warm water(85 degrees to 115 degrees,should be warm to touch but not hot)with Honey and Salt.Add Yeast and mix. Let sit 5mins.Add 1 cup Flour and Olive oil until well blended.Add flour slowly until it forms a ball.
Knead for a couple of min.( I usually knead until smooth,you know feels like velvet)
Place in warm area in a covered(with a wet warm cloth) bowl till double in size. Punch down and let rise again until double in size.
Grease cookie sheet or baking sheet with Olive oil and stretch dough until it is 12x12" form crust and let rise for 45 min.
Spread sauce on and bake at 450 degrees 15 min.or until brown.

This dough is perfect with the sauce recipe that Frank DuRoss Jr. gave! This dough is very flaky with a smooth interior.Enjoy and Thanks again Frank for the sauce recipe. MMM GOOD Eats!


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RE: tomato pie - Wed, 08/27/08 10:20 PM
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After 3 weeks of Tomato Pie making the Hubby says no more Pizza! I'm still shocked!! I found a recipe for dough on line and I wish I could remember which site I found it on....but it goes like this:

3 1/2 Cups flour(I never need this much)
1 Cup warm water
2 Tablespoons Yeast(1 package of Fleischman's Active dry yeast)
2 Tablespoons Honey
1/4 Cup Olive Oil(Extra Virgin light)
1/2 Teaspoon Salt

Mix warm water(85 degrees to 115 degrees,should be warm to touch but not hot)with Honey and Salt.Add Yeast and mix. Let sit 5mins.Add 1 cup Flour and Olive oil until well blended.Add flour slowly until it forms a ball.
Knead for a couple of min.( I usually knead until smooth,you know feels like velvet)
Place in warm area in a covered(with a wet warm cloth) bowl till double in size. Punch down and let rise again until double in size.
Grease cookie sheet or baking sheet with Olive oil and stretch dough until it is 12x12" form crust and let rise for 45 min.
Spread sauce on and bake at 450 degrees 15 min.or until brown.

This dough is perfect with the sauce recipe that Frank DuRoss Jr. gave! This dough is very flaky with a smooth interior.Enjoy and Thanks again Frank for the sauce recipe. MMM GOOD Eats!


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RE: tomato pie - Sat, 08/30/08 9:17 PM
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I thought tomato pie was like pizza, but I see that gorgeous pic on the previous page of, well,...... a tomato pie......
Must be a regional name/dish?

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RE: tomato pie - Mon, 11/10/08 4:23 PM
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Ex Utica guy here. I grew up on tomato pie and still enjoy it!