Steaming dogs with beef broth?

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StheHoney
Junior Burger
2007/10/26 14:02:19
I read online somewhere that a guy uses beef broth with water in a steamer to heat up the dogs (rather than just water). Anyone try this and does it really make a difference?
djtomatoe
Cheeseburger
RE: Steaming dogs with beef broth? 2007/10/26 14:26:41
i have a hot dog business, and i just use water.
a good quality dog should stand on its own.
i use nathans hot dogs
LoveMyLab
Cheeseburger
RE: Steaming dogs with beef broth? 2007/10/26 14:37:56
Having grown up in Chicago, Illinois the best vendor hot dogs were steamed in beer. Had a friend who worked at Wrigley Field during baseball season. He swore the dogs were steamed in beer. It is worth trying. Hope this helps.
StheHoney
Junior Burger
RE: Steaming dogs with beef broth? 2007/10/26 14:47:22
Hey Guys, thanks for the responses. I agree, Nathan's dogs steamed with just water are great! Actually, that leads me to another question. I heat Nathan's dogs in one of those Nemco steamers for concessions and it seems like the dogs that are sitting on the rack directly above the steam have more taste than the dogs sitting on top of dogs. They seem juicier. I'm thinking it's because that by sitting on the rack they sit in their own juices. I think maybe I'll try dipping them in beef broth and then put them in the steamer. Eh, can't hurt. I'll let you know what happens!
Matt Gleason
Double Cheeseburger
RE: Steaming dogs with beef broth? 2007/10/26 14:48:45
Beef broth doesn't make any sense to me?


HDK
drummagick
Cheeseburger
RE: Steaming dogs with beef broth? 2007/10/26 14:56:30
Yeah, a decent hot dog shouldn't need any flavor boosting.

To our family's taste, chicken is better for anything sausagey than beef. If I have to add a little boost of flavor to sausage gravy for instance, I'll use a bit of
chicken boullion. Or even better, a bit of ham base and a bit of chicken boullion.
I tried beef once and it was awful.
StheHoney
Junior Burger
RE: Steaming dogs with beef broth? 2007/10/26 15:33:54
Weeeell, I guess I should just leave them the way they are. Thanks again for all your responses!
PapaJoe8
Sirloin
RE: Steaming dogs with beef broth? 2007/10/27 08:54:12
I cooked some skinless Nathans in Shiner Bock beer. That made a BIG difference. They were great. Probably not practicle for resale though... or??
Joe
Jimeats
Filet Mignon
RE: Steaming dogs with beef broth? 2007/10/27 11:21:43
Years ago we use to steam barkers in beer, more for the wow factor than anything else. We used the drained draft from the perlick, no cost, it permiated the air, and drove up sales. A good n/c frank I don't think beer or anything else would affect the flavor that much. But on the other hand a skinless type may benifit. Chow Jim
Lance Uppercut
Junior Burger
RE: Steaming dogs with beef broth? 2008/02/03 16:59:07
Not sure how much steam of any kind really effects the taste of a dog, it's not like it gets inside. A skin-on dog is protected even further than a skinless.

Now boiling or pressure cooking would be another matter.
Russ Jackson
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Steaming dogs with beef broth? 2008/02/03 17:29:13
Saying that steaming or simmering wont affect the flavor of a Hot Dog is just wrong in my opinion. If not why do they grow in size during the process. As one that prefers to cook Hot Dogs on a griddle slowly in butter and oil. When it comes to brats I use a method that I received from an old pro. You can find it here http://www.roadfood.com/Forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=23918. As with cooking rice, beans whatever if you add flavor to the liquid it simmers in it will take on that flavor and smell. Please dont get me wrong I would never suggest that you BOIL a Hot dog but simmer or steaming is worth a try. A good beef broth or stock might bake a great Hot Dog. Well worth a try...Russ
Lance Uppercut
Junior Burger
RE: Steaming dogs with beef broth? 2008/02/03 17:36:57
Not sure of the real physics behind steamed dogs swelling up, I'm no scientist.

How do they suck up moisture? Does the nitrate/sodium content factor in?

An immersed (cooking) dog does seem to get extra flavor flavor.
Russ Jackson
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Steaming dogs with beef broth? 2008/02/03 17:39:50
I think it is called reverse osmosis. Where a higher concentration equals out over time. But biology and chemestry were a long time ago...lol...Russ
MiamiDon
Filet Mignon
RE: Steaming dogs with beef broth? 2008/02/03 17:43:33
The flavors of a quality beef broth are profoundly different from a hot dog, or what is normally desired in a hot dog, I think.

My first reaction is that it is a bad idea.
Twinwillow
Sirloin
RE: Steaming dogs with beef broth? 2008/02/03 18:08:47
personally, water is just fine. However, whatever floats your dog.
Russ Jackson
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Steaming dogs with beef broth? 2008/02/03 18:16:00
quote:
Originally posted by MiamiDon

The flavors of a quality beef broth are profoundly different from a hot dog, or what is normally desired in a hot dog, I think.

Bad idea.


It may be but the previous poster implied that it would not affect the end result. And it might be worth a try...Russ
MiamiDon
Filet Mignon
RE: Steaming dogs with beef broth? 2008/02/04 13:47:57
quote:
Originally posted by Russ Jackson

quote:
Originally posted by MiamiDon

The flavors of a quality beef broth are profoundly different from a hot dog, or what is normally desired in a hot dog, I think.

Bad idea.


It may be but the previous poster implied that it would not affect the end result. And it might be worth a try...Russ


I had enough Superbowl party beer in my when I wrote that to boil up quite a few hot dogs. (Is that Typing Under the Influence?)

I've always thought that beer was a good idea for simmered/boiled sausages because beer and sausages are natural companions. Bite sausage - drink some beer. When I read the OP, I thought - bite sausage, sip beef broth.

But, I could be wrong. Wouldn't be the first time.
MiamiDon
Filet Mignon
RE: Steaming dogs with beef broth? 2008/02/04 14:05:39
quote:
I read online somewhere that a guy uses beef broth with water in a steamer to heat up the dogs...

quote:
the best vendor hot dogs were steamed in beer.

quote:
I heat Nathan's dogs in one of those Nemco steamers for concessions...

quote:
Years ago we use to steam barkers in beer...



After reading StheHoney's reference to a Nemco Steamer, I realized that she was talking about actually using steam for heating hot dogs, not simmering them immersed in liquid, which some refer to as steaming. Here is the gadget that I think she is using:



The steam from beer/broth/whatever would have a much subtler effect than simmering/boiling the hot dogs in the liquid, I think.
salindgren
Cheeseburger
RE: Steaming dogs with beef broth? 2008/02/04 17:18:30
Well, my first reaction to the beef broth is that it's not a good idea. However, assuming for the moment that the dog will suck up some flavor, and following the Maid-Rite method, here's something that might be interesting, if you just wanted mild flavoring, and room for more stuff:
What if you layer your steamer with chopped onion, and maybe throw bay leaves, sprigs of rosemary, stuff like that on top of the onions? Might make a different tasting dog.
I have a chef friend from the CIA in Hyde Park. The students there learned to make hot dogs. He says boiling is the right way, because it removes excessing sodium. I trust him. Steam may do the same thing. Then, you could always add grill marks somehow if you like. The steaming is working well for my taco ground beef.
-Scott Lindgren
sk bob
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Steaming dogs with beef broth? 2008/02/04 21:02:40
bay leaves??? rosemary??? to flavor hot dogs???
BLASTPHAMY (sp.)
salindgren
Cheeseburger
RE: Steaming dogs with beef broth? 2008/02/04 21:30:35
Well, now sk bob, you would not object to a custom made dog with added garlic, or the like, would you? My favorite dog here in town (LA) is custom made with A LOT of chili powder in there. Blasphemy? I think not. Personally, I like a dog with dijon mustard, shallots, and that spreadable french cheese, any flavor.
-Scott Lindgren
kensandyeggo
Double Cheeseburger
RE: Steaming dogs with beef broth? 2008/02/04 22:44:39
In the old days when I grew up in Chicago, there was a cart on about every other corner. No one used beer to steam the dogs. Never even heard of anyone doing it...at least on the south side. Maybe the Sissy-Marys on the north side did.
sk bob
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Steaming dogs with beef broth? 2008/02/04 22:48:39
to each his own, especialy in LA.
I don't want a "gourmet" hot dog.
and don't try to tell me what I'm missing.
big pete
Junior Burger
RE: Steaming dogs with beef broth? 2014/03/06 23:33:40
Actually have you ever heard the term dirty water dogs when people talk about street vendors in New York. The brown water is not dirty, it is brown because the hot dog vendors put beef bullion cubes in the water. It keeps the water from sucking the flavor out of the hot dogs. A friend of mine who operated a food cart told me about this.
chicagostyledog
Filet Mignon
RE: Steaming dogs with beef broth? 2014/03/07 18:59:26
A hot dog, natural casing or skinless is an encased meat and nothing can penetrate, change, or enhance it's flavor, unless it's infused into the product at the factory.
 
CSD
Mosca
Filet Mignon
RE: Steaming dogs with beef broth? 2014/03/07 23:27:55
And actual steaming is an evaporation/distillation process. All that goes up would be water, leaving particulates behind to clog your mechanism.