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ulysses94
Junior Burger
RE: Carrolls restaurants 2008/10/29 22:45:56
Carrols. If I believe what I learned, growing up outside Rochester, NY.

This hamburger 'joint' began in the small town of Batavia, NY, then headquartered in Syracuse. Cutting out a lot of history I was too young to see, as they went into a rapid expansion, Carrols was bought out by Burger King -- with the exception that the original restaurant could retain their trademark, which eventually closed sometime in the late-80's. I had no idea they managed to go so national as Las Vegas, as somebody showed here, but I knew they had a good anchor in the North East. Which is why Burger King bought them under. Carrols club burger was much superior to the Big Mac, but that slid past the BK profit Kings.

Carrols had some nice TV ads; there was a parody of the movie, "The Russians are coming", which suggested that the Russian sub wasn't lost, just looking to find a Carrol's.
"... if good food turns you on, turn into Carrols".
ulysses94
Junior Burger
RE: Carrolls restaurants 2008/10/29 23:22:56
quote:
Originally posted by fivemile13

I am from Rochester, N.Y. and remember Carrols well. My sister worked at a Carrols in 1971-72, when she was a teenager. Boy, did we love Club Burgers. Always better than a Big Mac. We had a Carrols in

[....]

As for jingles, I remember this one: "When good food turns you on, turn into Carrols." There was a commercial I recall as well, with showgirls assembling an oversized Club Burger, with some lyrics like "First we take the buns and toast them right..." also mentioning their special sauce, etc. Can't really remember much more.

We used to also visit Carrols in the Buffalo area. I remember my uncle in Tonawanda lived right near one.

Of course we were all disappointed when Carrols disappeared. I like Burger King, but it is just not the same. I remember when I was in college in Buffalo and used to take the bus home on occasional weekends, the bus would stop in Batavia. There was still a Carrols there, with Club Burgers, perhaps in 1980! I still have a French Fry bag from there. Eventually it closed down too. I had heard that the last surviving Carrols was in Dewitt, N.Y., which makes sense since it is a suburb of Syracuse, home of Carrols Corp.


... when good food turns you on, turn into Carrols...

Do you remember the commercial that spoofed "The Russians are coming", where the Russians were not really lost, they were looking for a Carrols?

By my legend, the store in Batavia was the original, which was allowed to retain its name and food until closing in the late
80's.
But the more I read here, the more that may not be true.

The only truth is -- I miss Carrols, for all the reasons everyone cites.

For the record; a fast-food that comes so close to joy, while folding in the old A&W/Hires drive-in flavor, is this new franchise working up from the South East. "Sonic".

Let's hope they get further north, while we all can still afford to step out. ;)
I want my kids to have a chance to see how these burger places were enjoyable, not just a place to stop on the way home.

bmiddaugh
Junior Burger
RE: Carrolls restaurants 2008/10/30 07:58:33
I'm originally from Rochester, NY but live in the Tampa, FL area. We have Sonics all over the place. The hamburgers are better than McDonalds or Burger King; however, their coney island footlong hotdogs suck!
bmiddaugh
Junior Burger
RE: Carrolls restaurants 2008/11/04 10:43:44
quote:
Originally posted by dth1971

I just heard on an audio cassette of taped from TV to audio cassette a commercial circa 1970-1971 for Carroll's Hamburgers.



Hey dth1971: can I get a copy of that commercial from you? bmiddaugh (bmiddaug@yahoo.com)
toddsyr
Junior Burger
RE: Carrolls restaurants 2008/11/09 17:50:34
I have some Carrols memorabilia I would trade for a copy of that tape. I remember the Carrols in Syracuse's Valley section and the one in Liverpool, NY. I also have a complete 18 glass set of the first issue of Looney Tunes Pepsi glasses that were sold by Carrols.
toddsyr
Junior Burger
RE: Carrolls restaurants 2008/11/09 18:31:58
I see others have posted images of Carrols items but I don't know how to do it. That's unfortunate as I wanted to scan Carrols hats, puppets, etc. and post images on here. This stuff is very hard to find and I just wanted to share the images with others.
toddsyr
Junior Burger
RE: Carrolls restaurants 2008/11/09 18:39:37
Oh yeah, one other thing. Could we please have the name of this forum changed to Carrols? Carrolls (with 2 L's) is incorrect, as is any spelling with an apostrophe. Not griping, just shooting for authenticity.
slade1955
Junior Burger
RE: Carrolls restaurants 2008/11/22 11:44:47
A woman I work with used to work at a Carroll's in New Jersey. She came in one day and showed me a matchbook from there and name tag.
toddsyr
Junior Burger
RE: Carrolls restaurants 2008/11/22 18:41:43
A friend of mine has the matches if I remember right. the name tag would be neat to see. I did post a bunch of images of my collection on the Yahoo Carrols group. This can be seen by registered members at:

http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/Carrols/

Just look under the Carrols Gallery 3 folder in the Photos section if interested.
Cherry5000
Junior Burger
RE: Carrolls restaurants 2008/11/24 12:44:58
I found your thread on a websearch for those Carroll's glasses.
For those of you that thought Carroll's was gone forever it still exists...Helsinki, Finland. That's right Helsinki. I found one back in 98 and got my fill of several Club Burgers. They we still packaged the same way as they were back in the 70's with the thin waxed paper ring to hold everything together. If you have the money and the time happy traveling.
RoadWarrier
Junior Burger
RE: Carrolls restaurants 2008/11/24 13:31:59
Hey there Cherry!! YES there IS a Carrols, You are Absolutely Correct. They are STILL Thriving well in Finland.
I was involved in Setting Up the Operations there back in the beginning of the 70's.It was a Natural Progression, from the units we were setting up in Sweden. The Finns saw what was happening and wanted some of the 'Action'. FAST FOOD ( as we know it)was Just starting Over there. LOL We sold a LOT of CLUB BURGERS. I can remember a Promo we did in Helsinki.... Buy 1 Get 1 Free, OMG they were Lined up outside as I arrived Before we Opened. The folks Bought them by the Dozen and they took them home and froze them.
It was GREAT ! I also have some pics showing units over there. I need to figure out how to post them on here for your entertainment.
More later, I hope MORE People have stories to share.
David_NYC
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Carrolls restaurants 2008/11/24 16:07:54
RoadWarrior: In case you missed the link on page 3, the Carroll's in Finland has a web site:
http://www.carrols.fi/
fan23
Junior Burger
RE: Carrolls restaurants 2009/03/10 14:08:47

Ahhh Starlight Drive-In , what memories, the property now being taken up by Delta Sonic and the old BJ's Wholesale club building. I grew up on Town Line rd. right up the street from Carrols on the corner of West Henrietta Rd (which is now an Arby's & has been since Carrols closed down sometime in the 70's). Funny story, during the big blizzard of 1966, my brothers locked our dog in the bathroom of Carrols and my mom called a manager ( I dont know where she got his phone # from) to come and unlock the restaurant and let him out. I seem to remember two Carrols in Henrietta the other one being on Jefferson rd by Southtown Plaza. I was too young to remember how the food tasted, but I do remember Carrols and have some of the Looney Tunes glasses that they gave away.
post edited by fan23 - 2009/03/10 14:17:12
ConeyIslandLou
Double Cheeseburger
RE: Carrolls restaurants 2009/03/11 14:29:10
The Carrols story is pretty typical of most 60's McDs imitators: It started out as a chain in the Ohio/Indiana area, and slowly expanded. A guy named Herbert Slotnick got the franchising rights for New York and Pennsylvania, and he opened a slew of stores all over New York - mostly in areas where McDs had not explored yet. The first one in our town opened in 67 or so, and then another one about 70.  Most of the units had opened as counter only stores, but in the early 70s, most (but not all) were remodeled to have dining rooms, as McDs was starting to encroach on its territory.  meanwhile Slotnick essentially had taken over the company, and early 70s beef shortages/price inflation took hold.  Carrols was actually doing pretty good, but Slotnick knew he couldn't compete with McDs TV ads...meanwhile, BK was lookng to expand, and very convienantly,  needed outlets in most of the areas Carrols served, so Slotnick made a deal with BK, and converted about 75% of the Carrols into BKs. Carrols CORPORATION still exists,and it is now THE biggest single BK franchisee.

MY first job ever was opening a converted Carrols-into-BK, and all my paychecks came from Carrols Corp....

Id sure love a Club Burger right now....
bmiddaugh
Junior Burger
RE: Carrolls restaurants 2009/06/02 09:31:18
Does anybody have dth1971's email address? I would love to get an audio copy oif that Carrol's hamburger commercial!
SeamusD
Double Cheeseburger
RE: Carrolls restaurants 2009/06/02 20:00:01
Wow... I haven't thought about Carroll's in a long time. My grandfather would take us kids to the location in Auburn, NY, he lived 3 blocks away. I can't exactly remember what I ate, but that I always got excited about going. The building is still there, but it's a packing and shipping store now, after stints as a Red Barn, then Dominoes.
NascarDad
Cheeseburger
RE: Carrolls restaurants 2009/06/06 09:01:58
The Carrol's corporation converted itself into a burger king franchisee with multiple locations, IIRC.  Too bad too.  Much better than BK.
toddsyr
Junior Burger
RE: Carrolls restaurants 2009/06/07 04:45:05
  For folks who are members of the Yahoo Carrols group:

  I just uploaded an image of some stickers that Carrols gave away in the late 1960's. I was lucky enough to find 6 sets of these, unused! The image is under "Photos", folder # 3.

 Soon to come:

 An image of an orange Carrols ashtray I just bought. I'm just waiting for it to arrive in the mail.
 Todd K. Stearns
post edited by toddsyr - 2009/06/07 04:48:20
toddsyr
Junior Burger
RE: Carrolls restaurants 2009/06/17 23:45:17
I posted the image of the ashtray. I also just posted another image of another ashtray I just bought that comes with a book of matches. If anyone is interested in joining the Yahoo Carrols group, go to:
 
http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/Carrols/
 
I have over 30 images of Carrols memorabilia posted there.
 
toddsyr
Junior Burger
RE: Carrolls restaurants 2009/06/30 22:30:04
I recently was lucky enough to find one of those old waxed paper Carrols cups from the 1960's too.

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CaptCarson
Junior Burger
Re:Carrolls restaurants 2009/07/27 17:18:23
Eynon, PA - I remember that Carrols was next to a McD's on the strip across from Sugerman's.  To this day, my wife and I lament the loss of Carrols.  Man! - I could REALLY use a Club Burger right now!
johnsm
Junior Burger
RE: Carrolls restaurants 2009/12/16 14:38:41
Little late replying..

ConeyIslandLou
The final definitive spelling: CARROLS.... if you do a google search for 'carrols' one of the first links is to a Swedish Carrols fan site,complete with a picture of a real Cluburger..mmmm...can almost taste the sucker!


If you're referring to www.carrols.fi then you're sadly mistaken, because
  1. it's not Swedish, and
  2. it's not a fan site.

AFAIK the last Carrols restaurants in the world are in Finland. Apparently they got a license for the franchise or something way back when. I remember they were pretty big and cool in the early 90's. All the 3 big chains in Finland (Carrols, McDonalds and Hesburger - a Finnish chain from Turku) ran a lot of TV ads. Anyway, long story short,  later at some point Hesburger bought the chain and converted pretty much all of them to Hesburgers. I think they left only one in the center of Helsinki. (I think I went there like 3 months ago or something.)
That happened years ago, though. Looks like they've opened a couple of new ones.

The burgers have always been a little dry for my taste, but I thought they got really stingy with the sauce/mayo/whatever when the chain got bought. It in itself is a small WTF, since Hesburger OTOH are quite liberal with their sauces.

Looks like they don't have an English website, but here are the locations in case you guys feel like visiting Europe for a burger:
http://www.carrols.fi/fi/ravintolat
(allow javascript for a map)

Edit: I guess I should've read the whole thread first...
post edited by johnsm - 2009/12/16 14:58:16
johnsm
Junior Burger
RE: Carrolls restaurants 2009/12/16 14:57:01
RB0012Hero
I also saw slalds featured. Do they also serve breakfast over there?!?!


Nope. I think all chains nowadays try to cater for that audience too. I guess they noticed that some people (mostly women?) prefer lighter meals and if they didn't offer them anything, they and their friends would go someplace else to eat.

In addition to that, they're trying to play the healthy food for kids -card. Eg. McDonalds' meal now includes a choice like small carrots instead of french fries, juice instead of soda, etc. They offer a choice, so now it's their parents' fault if they eat crap there.

Isn't this sort of thing happening everywhere?

sonjaab
Cheeseburger
RE: Carrolls restaurants 2010/06/18 00:15:27
sonjaab
Cheeseburger
RE: Carrolls restaurants 2010/06/18 00:16:54
The Carrol’s chain was started by Leo Moranz of Tastee-Freez out of the mid-west (his daughter’s name was Carrol) but really took off under the stewardship of Herb Slotnick from upstate New York who’s family had a chain of movie theaters. Slotnick became the largest francise owner of Carrol’s encompassing New York state and New England. He eventually bought out the chain from Tastee-Freez and was doing a decent job competing with McDonald’s and Burger King for a small chain. In the mid-70′s the Carrol’s Corp. made a major decision, basically they decided that they had brought the concept as far as it would go and instead swithed teams to became the largest Burger King franchiser in the country. They converted some of the Carrol’s locations to Burger King and phased out the other locations.

post edited by sonjaab - 2010/06/18 00:20:10
sonjaab
Cheeseburger
RE: Carrolls restaurants 2010/06/18 00:27:38

Pics from Decatur Ga.

sonjaab
Cheeseburger
RE: Carrolls restaurants 2010/06/18 00:44:58
toddsyr
Junior Burger
RE: Carrolls restaurants 2010/06/19 17:45:12
I have a copy of that Carrols photo too . Got it off EBay as I'm sure you did as well. Anyhow, I believe it's a pic of the Carrols that was in the Utica/New York Mills area. It's even still there, as an adult store.
justme67
Junior Burger
RE: Carrolls restaurants 2010/08/31 17:16:01
Oh, the great memories in Oulu Finland, sitting upstairs of Carrolls' place in 1980's and watching people walk by. The best burgers by far! I really miss them. I think there is still a Carrolls' in Helsinki somewhere...if anyone has the address, let me know and I'll stop by next time I'm there!!!! Awww. man. the sauces they used with burgers are something to drool over...yum.
bmiddaugh
Junior Burger
RE: Carrolls restaurants 2010/09/01 14:35:30
Here is info of the Carrols sites in Finland from Wikipedia:    There is a pic of one in Helsinki on that site.
bmiddaugh
Junior Burger
RE: Carrolls restaurants 2010/09/01 14:38:30
This site blocked the link; I'll try typing it in:       en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrols_%28Finland%29               If it doesn't go through this time, just google Carrols (Finland). 
tuxr99
Junior Burger
RE: Carrolls restaurants 2011/10/03 16:22:16
Yes! I remember Carrols well. Back when I lived in Rochester NY in the late 60's and 70's, it was such a treat to go there as a kid. The Club Burger was the best! I'm going to have to make some Royale sauce and try and recreate it. Ah, the memories.
roxo56
Junior Burger
RE: Carrolls restaurants 2011/11/30 20:32:07
I too remember eating  $.15 burgers at the Henrietta Carroll's and thought they were way better than the McD's which opened later on East Henrietta rd near the Wegman's. I can't remember where in Henrietta the Carroll's was. I grew up in Rochester from '63-'74 and miss the food, not the winters...
fan23
Junior Burger
RE: Carrolls restaurants 2011/11/30 22:52:26
There were two Carrolls in Henrietta. One was at the corner of West Henrietta Rd and Brighton Henrietta Town Line Rd and the other was on Jefferson Rd just west of Southtown Plaza.
DRM400Z07
Junior Burger
RE: Carrolls restaurants 2011/12/26 17:59:15
My very first fast food experience was with Carrol's back in the mid-60's.  We lived in Loudonville, NY, outside of Albany, and there was a Carrol's restaurant on Route 9 in Latham, IIRC.  The fries were the first thing that literally knocked my socks off - I'm sure they weren't healthy, but the flavor was mind-blowing!  I recall inhaling the burgers, but I can't recall opting for the Club Burger vs. just a regular cheeseburger or hamburger - it didn't take much to please me and as a student, I didn't have a lot to spend.  I do remember the "A Serving A Second" logo - man, I would give anything to roll back the years and enjoy another great meal from Carrol's!  Thankfully I was overseas on active military duty  when they changed to BK's - neither BK, McDonalds, Wendy's, Hardees, or any other pretenders ever measured up to Carrols, IMO!
max123
Junior Burger
RE: Carrolls restaurants 2012/08/08 19:46:20
I worked for Carrols in the mid seventies; the first assistant manager of our store is now the "Catbert" of Carrols Corp. 
 
The Club Burger was built upside down in a cardboard collar using a three piece bun.  The crown was placed in the collar, then Royal Dressing (from Monarch Food in Spfld, MA), lettuce, ground beef pattie, cheese, middle of bun, cheese (rotated 90 degrees relative to the first slice), beef pattie, onions, ketchup, bottom of bun (to the best of my recollection).  The tomato slice had been eliminated berfore I worked there; we had the Roast Beef Hero (a new item at the time)...the slice of beef was folded into one quarter and seven pieces were placed on the bun.  It was nuked for 1 minute in our brand new Litton Menumaster microwave.
 
I worked there six months and made Swing Shift Manager in three ($3.00 an hour!!!).  
WaltA
Junior Burger
RE: Carrolls restaurants 2012/12/16 19:32:41
dordor61

I grew up in Montgomery, NY; our house was on Rt. 17K. Since you had to travel to either Newburgh or Middletown to do any shopping, my mother used to often shop in the Newburgh area and we would always eat at Carrol's in Newburgh, right on Rt. 17K (near the old Lloyd's). My father worked at Stewart Air Base, and we'd visit him there and preferred eating at Carrol's to eating mess hall food! Does anyone else remember this particular Carrol's in Newburgh, NY?

I remember the Carrols located in the same shopping area as the W.T. Grants dept store and the Big V supermarket, in Vails Gate, NY.
johnsm
Junior Burger
Re:Carrolls restaurants 2013/12/13 07:54:22
In case you haven't heard, and even if you have, I'll post a very late update here for posterity:
Carrols is now officially dead in Finland as well. They were starting to slowly open new locations again for a while, but looks like someone at Hesburger didn't like that and they were all converted to Hesburgers in early 2012. The one restaurant previously left intact at the center of Helsinki was closed too.
I think you can still get Club Burgers on Hesburgers at times as a campaign product, though, but ever since they bought the chain, the burgers have tasted drier - I don't know if is them putting too little sauce or the salad, which I think they changed. I'd really like to see someone starting the chain again and making their original products properly.
Anyway, I thought you guys would like to know this before your trip to Finland.
Jay1974
Junior Burger
Re:Carrolls restaurants 2014/04/25 20:23:36
Johnsm, thanks for the news on the demise of Carols in Finland. That's too bad. Unfortunately, my only experience with Carols involves a vacant building in Watertown, N. Y. When I moved there in 1984 and asked a coworker what used to be in the abandoned building, he told me it was a Carols and raved about how great their hamburgers were. All along, I thought he was saying "Carrows," not "Carols." I lived in Syracuse for three years but not once did anyone mention the iconic hamburger place while I was there.
The_Finn
Junior Burger
Re:Carrolls restaurants 2014/06/04 08:24:29
If it is of any interest to you, I was in the last Finnish Carrolls on the last day when it operated under that name. Took some pictures, including one of the menu. I also have the feedback "card" that one could use for giving feedback to the restaurant by filling the questionnaire.
 
If there is interest on this forum, I could scan that feedback card and for instance upload the photo(s) that I have.
waltpiii
Cheeseburger
RE: Carrolls restaurants 2014/06/04 12:35:13
Yes there was a Carrol's in Latham, NY before there was any of the other chains.  It was on route 7 near I87,  the Northway.
wheregreggeats.com
Filet Mignon
RE: Carrolls restaurants 2014/06/04 14:24:11
Just curious... How does a thread (such as this one) elicit so many new posters?
waltpiii
Cheeseburger
RE: Carrolls restaurants 2014/06/04 14:59:03
Nostalgia! 
Davebassman
Cheeseburger
RE: Carrolls restaurants 2014/06/04 15:40:53
I remember Carrolls restaurants in Newport News, VA. back in the early 70's. Their club burger was pretty good, but what I most remember about that burger was how much lettuce they put on it. 
mayor al
Fire Safety Admin
RE: Carrolls restaurants 2014/06/04 23:40:43
Hey JAY1974-
  You were closer than you knew... Up to the late 1990's, ( I think they closed in 1998) there was a Carroll's on the NW corner of Main and "I" Avenue in Hesperia. It was a traditional coffee-shop / restaurant in the old HOJO and NORM's style building and menu.
I was a teacher in Hesperia and at VVC until retirement in 2000 and that Carroll's was a frequent dinner stop for us until it closed up.
johnsm
Junior Burger
Re:Carrolls restaurants 2014/07/05 09:29:56
There's a Club Burger campaign going on in Finnish Hesburgers ATM (not in any of the other countries AFAIK). No end date is given, but I'd guess it lasts until the next weekend at least. They're advertising a loyalty card discount for the meal for the whole month of July, though, hinting that the campaign might last that long. (In case you're planning to be in the area, which I admit is unlikely, they're forecasting nice weather for the next two weeks as well. About damn time, too.)
 
The burgers I had were a bit ketchupy but at least they weren't dry. Lacking a point of comparison other than my dimming memories, I can't say whether they were as good as the original ones. Still better than what is offered on the standard Hesburger menu, though.
 
The_Finn
If there is interest on this forum, I could scan that feedback card and for instance upload the photo(s) that I have.

Go for it.
johnsm
Junior Burger
RE: Carrolls restaurants 2014/07/06 11:26:09
RB0012Hero
The Crisbo Royal Sauce (the official name of Carrols' special sauce for Club Burgers) is made of mayonnaise, ketchup, and relish blended together, but in what proportions?!

According to this (re-retry: burgerjoints.blogspot.com/2007/11/club-burger-at-carrols-helsinki-finland.html ):
"it's a simple blend of 45% mayonnaise + 45% ketchup + 10% relish"
Blended quite fine, IMHO. You'd still have to know exactly what kind of mayonnaise, ketchup and relish, right?
(This is what they're currently using: translate.google.com/translate?sl=fi&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hesburger.fi%2Ftuotteet%2Fkampanjat%2Fclubburger0&edit-text=&act=url )
 
edit: "Some restrictions apply to prevent link (URL) Spam." FFS! I'd like to post some relevant links!
 
post edited by johnsm - 2014/07/06 11:40:44
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