Bourbon or Scotch?

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Davydd
Sirloin
2008/01/20 22:46:44
Tonight I am alternating on this below zero night shots of Wild Turkey 101 and the Glenlivet 12 year old single malt. I'm testing which I like better and right now I am favoring the bourbon even though I don't consider them one to one in quality. It could change as the night wears on.

Say you?
djmsalem
Hamburger
RE: Bourbon or Scotch? 2008/01/20 22:54:47
Well, if you're still awake, I prefer Bourbon, although if I had to choose between the two you're pouring it'd be close. I think I like the simpler, corn flavor of Bourbon, especially when the WT 101 is mixed with just a little cold water.
mayor al
Fire Safety Admin
RE: Bourbon or Scotch? 2008/01/20 23:08:07
Bourbon does go better than Scotch, with Mountain Dew !
MikeS.
Fire Safety Admin
RE: Bourbon or Scotch? 2008/01/21 00:38:54
Please Al, tell me your not mixing Knob Creek with the Dew?!
salindgren
Cheeseburger
RE: Bourbon or Scotch? 2008/01/21 04:02:04
Well, I did not know we could speak about booze here. Not "family friendly". But as an aside to your question, I always liked Bushmills Irish better than any Scotch. So I decided to stop drinking it. I liked it a little TOO much, shall we say. Uh, here is something else to check out instead of Bourbon, Rye. Not always easy to find these days, but that is what goes into a Sazerac, perhaps the very first cocktail in North America.
-Scott Lindgren scottlindgren@netzero.net
mayor al
Fire Safety Admin
RE: Bourbon or Scotch? 2008/01/21 05:46:46

The Sundancer is a 'Rye' man. We make him sit at a seperate table while the 'Bourbon Boys' do the Roadfood Toasts at the meet-n-eats!
Sundancer7
Fire Safety Admin
RE: Bourbon or Scotch? 2008/01/21 06:41:32
quote:
Originally posted by Al-The Mayor-Bowen


The Sundancer is a 'Rye' man. We make him sit at a seperate table while the 'Bourbon Boys' do the Roadfood Toasts at the meet-n-eats!


It is hard to find a good rye. I usually do Canadian which is a blend of rye and something???

I am finding that as I get older,my consumption has to be reduced.

Paul E. Smith
Knoxville, TN
Davydd
Sirloin
RE: Bourbon or Scotch? 2008/01/21 10:02:55
Doesn't Jack Daniels in Tennessee distill a rye?

I've always been a bourbon man and fashioned that my ancestors that resided in Kentucky since sometime before 1792 and 1909 probably had made their own in a back holler.
Twinwillow
Sirloin
RE: Bourbon or Scotch? 2008/01/21 10:14:34
quote:
Originally posted by Davydd

Tonight I am alternating on this below zero night shots of Wild Turkey 101 and the Glenlivet 12 year old single malt. I'm testing which I like better and right now I am favoring the bourbon even though I don't consider them one to one in quality. It could change as the night wears on.

Say you?


Davydd, you'll be lucky to tell the difference as the night wears on. LOL.
Personally, I'd just be drinking Macallan 12 year old single malt Scotch whisky to keep warm. A "wee dram" as they say.
Phildelmar
Double Cheeseburger
RE: Bourbon or Scotch? 2008/01/21 10:38:26
I generally go for scotch, but when I want an alternative, I favor rye. Pikesville is available in my area, as is jim Beam and Old Overholt
HPlatz
Cheeseburger
RE: Bourbon or Scotch? 2008/01/21 10:39:26
Rye is supposedly gathering some steam in popularity. Within the past two years or so I began enjoying Rye Whiskey more than almost anything else but good Irish. Old Overholt Rye is a popular-priced Rye which is easy to find. If I understand it correctly, Rye is probably the first whiskey produced in America in PA and Maryland. Only Kentcuky is allowed to call its whiskey Bourbon, by law. Tennessee whiskey is sour mash. I am not a scholar on this stuff by any means, but for me Rye is the most drinkable of American whiskeys. Irish whiskey is probably my most preferred. Never developed a taste for the smokiness of Scotch. Here are a few words about Rye...

http://www.mindspring.com/~mccarthys/whiskey/rye.htm

iqdiva
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Bourbon or Scotch? 2008/01/21 10:48:47
Bourbon...Absolutely !
wheregreggeats.com
Filet Mignon
RE: Bourbon or Scotch? 2008/01/21 11:10:09
Myself, I kind of prefer Scotch, but I can usually still taste it in the morning ... and that is not a treat.

Bourbon is also nice for sippin' and doesn't deliver the same indignity.

I also find myself taking a well crafted beer from time to time.
Phishmonger
Cheeseburger
RE: Bourbon or Scotch? 2008/01/21 11:23:24
Hi All... I was recently diagnosed with Celiac Disease (an intolerance to gluten, from wheat, barley and rye). I was thrilled to learn that the proteins in gluten do NOT transfer to the final product in alcoholic spirits, thus allowing me to continue enjoying bourbon whiskey. Beer is out, but Anheuser-Busch makes a gluten-free beer that tastes pretty good and is quite refreshing. All this to add my vote for BOURBON. Thanks for your indulgence.
MetroplexJim
Filet Mignon
RE: Bourbon or Scotch? 2008/01/21 18:57:34
Bourbon for me, Evan Williams Black in particular, mais chacun a son gout.

I'll second Greg's comment about tasting scot's whiskey again in the morning. Jack Daniels does that to me as well.
UncleVic
Sirloin
RE: Bourbon or Scotch? 2008/01/21 19:17:27
I'll take some bourbon on the rocks.. For some reason, not really a Scotch man here... Rather do some real Mountain Dew instead (preferably with a peach in the jar)..
Davydd
Sirloin
RE: Bourbon or Scotch? 2008/01/21 19:25:34
{;ll cibtubue tge test agaub tibuggt ti deternube wgetger U kuje biyrbib ir scitcg.
Michael Hoffman
Double-chop Porterhouse
RE: Bourbon or Scotch? 2008/01/21 19:42:14
I was never able to develop anything but distaste for Scotch whisky. It always reminded me of some bad-tasting medicine I'd never had. (And yes, I've had single malts that have been described to me as extraordinary.) My standard drink is Jack Daniels Black Label sour mash. I don't even know if they still make the younger, raw-tasting Green Label any longer. I've been drinking the Black Label since 1954.
iqdiva
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Bourbon or Scotch? 2008/01/21 19:44:08
1954...The year I was born...
Michael Hoffman
Double-chop Porterhouse
RE: Bourbon or Scotch? 2008/01/21 19:49:12
That's when I was born, too. My mother breast fed me the Jack Daniels.
Frankman
Cheeseburger
RE: Bourbon or Scotch? 2008/01/21 20:15:53
quote:
Originally posted by Davydd



Say you?

Turkey 101
I keep it in the freezer.
Top
Cheeseburger
RE: Bourbon or Scotch? 2008/01/21 20:26:07
Good Scots whiskey for sure.
It almost makes up for bringing haggis and golf into the world.
Top
(bring on the Talisker!)
Davydd
Sirloin
RE: Bourbon or Scotch? 2008/01/21 20:45:09
quote:
Originally posted by Davydd

{;ll cibtubue tge test agaub tibuggt ti deternube wgetger U kuje biyrbib ir scitcg.

What I meant to say now in a more lucid period was, I'll continue the test again tonight to determine whether I like bourbon or scotch. : : : just funnin' : : :

This all started because I got a gift book for Christmas from my daughter, Single Malt Scotch by Bill Milne (photos) and Roddy Martine (text). The photos are stunning. Important things you need to know. Single malt scotch is aged in used barrels that were originally used for aging bourbon or sherry. Scotch in Scotland is whisky without the e. All other spirits are whiskey with the e.
CajunKing
Sirloin
RE: Bourbon or Scotch? 2008/01/21 21:07:05
I have a bottle of Chivas Regal Royal Salute - 21 yrs old and a bottle of 18 yr old MacCallan sitting on my shelf right now

So my choice..... Scotch

3 fingers and a dash of spring water to open it up


plb
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Bourbon or Scotch? 2008/01/21 21:24:07
I do not know if this is true or not, but I read it somewhere. The reason that they started to blend Scotch in the first place was that single malts did not taste good.
Bushie
Filet Mignon
RE: Bourbon or Scotch? 2008/01/21 21:26:54
I can still buy Fowler's apple cider (from NY, probably will end mid-Feb) at Central Market down here, so I like mixing Bourbon (I mostly buy Buffalo Trace since it's become available here) with real cider.

As a cocktail, I mostly order a scotch with a slight splash of water (usually Dewars). At home, I will usually keep some Famous Grouse Gold Reserve, and some Dewars. For single malts, I mostly buy Old Pultaney these days, simply because I think it's the best for the price. I'm not a rich man.

In a bar I will also order a Stoli martini; I like it shaken, up with olives. (I also insist on some Vermouth. Most of the young bartenders don't put in Vermouth, but they always ask if I want it dirty...)

At home, I keep a bottle of Tangueray's Sterling Vodka in the freezer.
Throw in about 1 part Martini & Rossi's vermouth, 3 or 4 parts Sterling, and 3 jalapeno-stuffed olives on a toothpick, and you have a perfect pre-dinner drink.
hatteras04
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Bourbon or Scotch? 2008/01/21 21:44:11
Between those two, I will take Bourbon. I got my dad a single barrel Blanton's for Christmas and it was outstanding. But the tougher choice for me would be between a good Irish Whiskey and Bourbon. Maybe I need to do my own taste test on a cold night.
wallhd
Cheeseburger
RE: Bourbon or Scotch? 2008/01/21 21:46:50
I always tended to feel that scotch tasted like antifreeze. However a few years ago a relative from the UK brought me a bottle of single malt scotch whisky. Wow, what a difference! I might be hooked.

I also like Grey Goose vodka even though most things French aren't in my favor.

Wally
Robearjr
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Bourbon or Scotch? 2008/01/21 22:02:08
I'm too young to like scotch, and I think I always will be.
waltpiii
Cheeseburger
RE: Bourbon or Scotch? 2008/01/21 22:13:21
Why drink Bourbon or Scotch when Irish is available?

Walt
uncledaveyo
Double Cheeseburger
RE: Bourbon or Scotch? 2008/01/21 22:17:03
As long as its well made and delicious, why favor one over the other? Life's too short. Yeah I know its a copout, but I love both...

Gotsta have Rye if your making a Sazerac though....
Scarlett
Cheeseburger
RE: Bourbon or Scotch? 2008/01/21 22:29:26
Scotch it is. I love Scotch - perfection is a shot of Scotch over 'fresh' ice cubes. When I am enjoying Scotch I get a fresh glass and fresh ice cubes for each drink.

I don't like any mixers i.e., Dew, etc.

Bourbon is not my friend.
Davydd
Sirloin
RE: Bourbon or Scotch? 2008/01/21 22:43:10
The testing is continuing. Tonight it is sipping alternatively between the two instead of one after another.



I guess I still have to go with the bourbon even though the Wild Turkey is not nearly as smooth as a Maker's Mark or Knob Creek. Or I could go out and buy Lagavullen and continue the test.
UncleVic
Sirloin
RE: Bourbon or Scotch? 2008/01/21 22:52:30
quote:
Originally posted by hatteras04

Between those two, I will take Bourbon. I got my dad a single barrel Blanton's for Christmas and it was outstanding. But the tougher choice for me would be between a good Irish Whiskey and Bourbon. Maybe I need to do my own taste test on a cold night.

I think the nights are as cold as they will get right now.. Test away!
CajunKing
Sirloin
RE: Bourbon or Scotch? 2008/01/21 23:01:12
Davydd

Use a rocks glass if you have it instead of the shot glasses, then add a dash of spring water to each.

You will be suprised at how the water opens the flavors up.

That and it gives you another way to test them on another COLD Night.
iqdiva
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Bourbon or Scotch? 2008/01/21 23:22:01
Bourbon is also wonderful in a mug of hot home made old-fashioned Russian tea !
unabashed
Cheeseburger
RE: Bourbon or Scotch? 2008/01/22 00:03:22
hands down I love my Bourbon...
I have 4 bottles at the moment all open...
Makers Mark , Knob Creek in the fridge I like them strait but chilled without the water the ice brings to the party
Evan Williams & Ezra Brooks I like mixing with coke and ice My cheaper version of the Black Tooth Grin Dime enjoyed so much.
all and somewhere in this post someone stated not drinking beer cause of a ailment .... I suffer from both forms of Gout but I loved my beer a Dr. told me "Ron I know your not gonna stop drinking but beer is a major factor in these attacks....he said if you must drink drink Bourbon....I take allopurinol for it and still get the attacks around holidays HAM & VENISON are the culprits....
anyone that suffers from Gout email me if you need any info on this I've suffered with it since 1995 and it is a awful disease I've researched the crap out of it...
now I'm gonna do a shot of Knob Creek and mix a chaser
Ashphalt
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Bourbon or Scotch? 2008/01/22 11:12:26
The "peat-y" flavors and aroma of scotch usually turn my stomach as no other form of booze can. It truly reminds me of sweaty socks. I've had some single malts that were pretty tasty, but I was born a bourbon man.
Davydd
Sirloin
RE: Bourbon or Scotch? 2008/01/22 11:22:07
quote:
Originally posted by CajunKing

Davydd

Use a rocks glass if you have it instead of the shot glasses, then add a dash of spring water to each.

You will be suprised at how the water opens the flavors up.

That and it gives you another way to test them on another COLD Night.

I've got all kinds of glasses and it will be COLD again tonight.

unabashed. I started suffering from gout circa 1980 when I was only 38. The first attack was in the arch of my foot and I thought it was a stress fracture because it felt just like when I broke my foot once. But when the pain did not subside I knew it was something else. It got so bad I went vegetarian for 7 years. I'm not sure what is going on with my body but the gout has pretty much disappeared on me for the past few years. The last attack was in 2005 and it was mild. About that time I had artho surgery on my knee and they scraped out a lot of Tofi and at the same time removed a golf ball size chunk of tofi from my right elbow. I now wonder if that was related. I'm no longer taking allopurinol. I used to dread the holidays because it came on like clock work. Knocking on wood because I know how painful it can be.
unabashed
Cheeseburger
RE: Bourbon or Scotch? 2008/01/23 00:31:32
Davydd
That GOUT is some nasty stuff!!!! I usally get it in my ankels but have had it in my wrists one time in my right knee my knee swelled up like a cantalope they drained it then tested fluid and said you got gout....if I get a attack they put me on a predizone burst its gone in a day or 2.
I've had alot of broken bones(x motocross racer and thrill seeker) and would rather have a broken bone than a severe gout attack.
Scorereader
Sirloin
RE: Bourbon or Scotch? 2008/01/23 14:21:46
quote:
Originally posted by Ashphalt

The "peat-y" flavors and aroma of scotch usually turn my stomach as no other form of booze can. It truly reminds me of sweaty socks. I've had some single malts that were pretty tasty, but I was born a bourbon man.


Stay away from single malts from Islay. You may find yourself more pleased with Highland single malts.

I love Bourbon, and probably smack through a bottle's worth per week, but single malt scotches have a much wider breadth of flavors. Bourbons are all fairly close in taste compared to Scotch single malts. So, don't judge all Scotch by an Islaly.

, also, do not like the heavy peat, and prefer Speyside, Highlands and some of the Islands Scotches (subregion of the Highlands - such as Highland Park.)