Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone?

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RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? - Mon, 07/25/05 5:27 PM
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My Brother had his Wedding Reception in what used to be great Family owned restaurant in Albany, NY - The Bavarian Chalet. soon after his reception the family sold the restaurant, and within 5 years they closed up shop. That used to be a great place Wiener Schnitzel and potato pancakes almost as as good as my German Grandma's. She was a Chef for a Group of Franciscan Monks in Rensselaer, NY so I had my own German Restaurant it was called Grandma's house. No Restaurant ever came close to her cooking just ask the group of Monks that showed up at her Funeral. (No vow of silence for these guys.
There is one in Ballston Spa near Saratoga Springs called the Spa Brauhaus, it is good but not nearly as good as The Baverian Chalet was in its prime.

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RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? - Mon, 07/25/05 6:31 PM
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Way back when... like about 1950... there was a real Mom and Pop German Restaurant in a tiny crossroads called Washingtonville, NY (near Milbrook in Dutchess County). He cooked, she served - there was, maybe, seating for 15 or 20. Sauerbraten was what to order, along with potato pancakes. When she discovered my lust for their potato pancakes, she would keep them coming as long as I would keep shoveling them down- drowned in spicy Sauerbraten gravy.

Also, a German bar/restaurant in Schenectady that I used to frequent when I taught for a year up in that frozen city- excelent fresh beer, wursts, and bread to die for.. cant remember the name (Nicklaus???) - that was about 1960.

Cheers, John


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RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? - Mon, 07/25/05 9:33 PM
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This is a family board, 86 the lust talk.

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RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? - Tue, 07/26/05 10:33 AM
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Like Jimmy Carter the lust was only in my mind (and tastebuds, and belly,etccheers, John

Cheers, John

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RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? - Wed, 08/3/05 1:19 AM
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Pewingsx, I just read your post. You don't have to go anywhere,since Colorado has some of the best German restaurants , like in Denver "Cafe Berlin" ,my favorite . In the last years,since I have visited Colorado and eaten there, we never had food there we did not like. There is also "Helgas" and the "Golden Europe" has excellent Czech and German food.

In Lyons ,closed to Boulder,there a few German restaurants ,one is called
"Berliner Baer" and "Andrea" (or some name close to it).
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The Black Forest" in Nederland is excellent.

There are two more German restaurants in the mountains. I have to think about it and will post the names later.

Here in St.Louis, we finally got a new German restaurant The Gast haus,which has good food.

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RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? - Wed, 08/3/05 10:02 AM
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Two places stick out in my mind. The Berghoff in Chicago. The veal meatloaf at lunch is wonderful. Had a VP at a company I used to work for call me on the carpet for having such LOW meal bills when I was in Chicago (I was eating at the Berghoff all the time), I fixed the problem by having them put a bottle of their bourbon on the bill at each meal.

Rhineland House in Charlotte. Been in business for thirty plus years.

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RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? - Thu, 08/11/05 6:50 AM
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Originally posted by spaetzelboy

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Originally posted by kozel

I never did get to Chalet Alpina but I think it's still there. I was on Metro yesterday but didn't take notice.
http://www.bohemianhall.com/home.htm

It's in Astoria, is the last remaining beer garden and is Czech not German. There's a big Czech population in Astoria. And let us remember that Pilsner beer is named for a town (Pilsen) in the Czech republic.

Enjoy your dad while you can. In this past year we lost the last member of the 'older generation' in our family. We are now that generation. Being German, did anyone in your family have an appreciation for Liederkranz Cheese?





So I got real sentimental tonight and made pork cutlets and spaetzel.

... It was my first attempt at spaetzel, so it was a bit like eating buckshot, but the pork was good.

One of the articles about N-stein's demise mentioned the Alpine Chalet, it's still open apparently.

A czech beer garden . . . hmm . . . in a phrase containing the words "beer" and "garden" everything else appears secondary. I must czech it out. . . . sorry.

Koz, dad's doing great thanks - I told him he was my best Christmas gift. It's funny you mention losing the "older generation". When the last of my grandparents died 6 or 7 years ago, we were having the funeral dinner (where else) and my cousin informed our parents that they had all "moved up a notch".

Liederkranz Cheese sounds familiar, I'll have to ask. But dad's favorite treats were pickled herring, pigs feet, marrowglace, and saurbraten. And dad didn't like the saurbraten at N-stein's because it wasn't sour enough. Apparently when grandma made saurbraten she would just take a pot roast and soak it in vinegar for a few days. Yum. Dad's such a kraut. Course he can't eat any of that stuff since the coronary.

Thanks again for the links!

-T





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RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? - Sat, 08/13/05 11:51 PM
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I've just read thru a lot of these posts with great interest. The roots of my German side (Dad) are in Ridgewood Brooklyn.

In the late 70s/early 80's I spent quite a lot of time bar hopping at the German American places with some old pals in that area as a way of reconnecting with my roots:

Zum Stammstitch, Gottschier Hall, Vollmerdings, Triangle hofbrau, Flessls, Vienna Tavern, Eagles Nest (named after you know what, holy cow!), and so on. How's that for references?

My favorite was a place called Tyroler Haus. It was during a point in time when that particular area was changing rapidly, so here was a place with German beer on tap, posters of Munich, Old school bartender, bratwurst on the menu, and a clientele that was 80% hispanic. Cool.

Sorry to hear that alomost all of these places are gone. --Ken

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RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? - Sun, 08/14/05 12:28 AM
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Ken:
As far as I know, Zum Stammtistch is still around, which is good, because it runs circles around some of the other "authentic" German restaurants in the city (as a previous poster said, Rolf's is a little pricey for mediocre food in a Christmas ambiance, and the Heidelberger, on the Upper East Side, in Yorkville, was way past its prime a least a decade ago...very mediocre cuisine...sad that this is the only surviving restaurant in the once thriving German community up there in Yorkville.)

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RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? - Sun, 08/14/05 1:03 AM
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Ken
How about Sammet's that used to be on Onderdonk and Linden.Had my grandparents 50th aniversery there back in 1980

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RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? - Sun, 08/14/05 5:35 PM
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Sammet's is long gone. It is now an Ecuadorian place.

A little history lesson...
http://timesnewsweekly.com/Archives2005/Apr.-Jun.2005/062305/NewFiles/OURNEIGH.html

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RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? - Sat, 08/27/05 5:21 PM
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Any thoughts on the Old Europe in Washington, DC. Am considering doing some Oktoberfesting there.

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RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? - Mon, 08/29/05 10:48 PM
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Bernard's restaurant in Stevens Point, Wisconsin calls themselves "continental," though the beer stein on their sign indicates which part of the continent they feature! The place doesn't look like much from the outside...or from the inside either, for that matter. Just your typical Wisconsin supper club with the bar in front and dance hall in the back.

Bernard himself is the real thing, a true continentally trained chef, transplanted to the middle of Wisconsin. His jaeger schitzel is tasty, the wiener schitzel is my favorite...or maybe second best, if there is roast goose with red cabbage and spaetzl I'll order that...then there's the sauerbraten...

The desserts are worth saving space for: linzer torte, and more.

Check out the giant jar of home made fruit liqueur on the bar.

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RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? - Tue, 09/6/05 9:36 AM
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Hello all ,

I really enjoyed reading some of these posts about the German restaurants of long ago , and some that are still hanging in there .

I have the Black Forest Inn less than a mile from me in Highland Mills NY . For those of you that know where Woodbury Commons is . It is about four miles north of the commons on Rt. 32 .

I do happen to know the son of the owner , went to school with him and he runs a tight ship . Excellent German cuisine .

Entertainment most weekends , authentic sounding beer garden type music

Weekends reservations are a must . Closed on Tuesdays I think.


Gus tavern in Newburgh has an Octoberfest this coming weekend Sept 10-11th . They set up two big tents in the parking lot and serve good german food and adult refreshments .

The entertainment is also good . I try to stop by there for an hour or two every year .

For Seafarer John , Where is the smokehouse in Kingston ? There are very few places in the Orange County area where you can get great German Baloney and such .

Benzee


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RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? - Sat, 10/15/05 8:39 PM
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Sweetest Day found us at Milwaukee's Lemke's Crest, a small neighborhood restaurant. This time I was wise enough to bring along my digiatl camera. I feel like you may appreciate my wife's Saurbraten, red cabbage and Bavarian dumpling, which was one of the closet to those made by my grandmother.

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RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? - Fri, 12/23/05 8:17 AM
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Just read a news item on the net 12/22/05 that Linda Tripp has opened a German Rest/ take out type place someplace in Va. I wonder if Bill Clinton likes German Food? Chow Jim

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RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? - Fri, 12/23/05 9:50 AM
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Ripped off from some website for your convenience:

Eat One of Linda Tripp's Footlongs
It seems that Linda Tripp's gone from listening to her galpals talk about swallowing the sausage to being a purveyor of her very own! She and her husband Dieter Rausch are the Frau und Herr of Weihnachts Markt in Middleburg, Virginia.

Weihnachts Markt is a traditional German Christmas market plunked down along the Middleburg's main drag.
Middleburg resident Linda Tripp (yes, of Clinton scandal fame) and her husband, German architect Dieter Rausch, are serving up bratwurst and other German delights to hungry, if not curious, passersby...The couple opened their "magical" little house of treats three years ago.


The speciality of the house is authentic German "weisswurst" a white sausage that is boiled and never grilled -- not even by House Impeachment Managers with bad haircuts and jowls!

Given the length and thickness of the brats, and Herr Rausch's predilection for wearing lederhosen, Weihnachts Markt is more than a house of German cuisine -- it's a bona fide paradise for the Sprockets sex-fetishist set. But it's for a limited time only: Wiehnachts "closes for the season" on New Years. So get there without delay: it's just about the wurst thing ever!—

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RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? - Wed, 12/28/05 8:43 PM

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RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? - Fri, 12/30/05 2:27 PM
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Berghoff closing is a pity. Such a good place. After hearing the news, we went there last night. Waited in line outside for 45 minutes. A good time had by all. We ate (forgive the spelling) sauerbraten, wiener shnitzel, rham shnitzel, lamb shank, creamed spinach (their specialty), spaetzel, sauerkraut, and apple struedel a la mode washed down with a pitcher of wheat beer. After a few recent trips to Germany, I can tell you this is the real thing. Delicious.

Our waiter, Fernando, informed us they did not know about the closing until the 10 AM staff meeting on the day of the announcement. He is a relative newcomer having only 27 years seniority. His station is in the corner of the upstairs dining room. He told us the senior waiters get the good stations. Those guys have around 40 years seniority. Many newcomers quit because the work is too hard and the hours long. He came to Chicago from Puerto Rico to make a better life. He works hard and makes good money. He has no plan set for after the closing.

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RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? - Sun, 01/1/06 1:31 PM
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I wonder why so many of these restaurants close? Are the recipes that daunting? I would find it hard to believe people don't want to eat there?

I know of a place Charlottesvile Va called the Bavaria house which is good. Incredible beer selection. I hope they stay in business.
There is a Cafe/Bakery in Durham NC that is very good and was mentioned before on this thread. They opened a new wing for lunch and it is great.
If I win the powerball lottery I am going to go to Germany and
bring back some chefs to create a huge German restaurant.

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RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? - Sun, 01/1/06 1:48 PM
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I wonder why so many of these restaurants close? Are the recipes that daunting?


In a world where diners will flock to pseudo "Italian" restaurants eating microwave pre-cooked meals, it probably is tough to justify a seven day brining to make a real sauerbraten. That and the fear they will look like Gert Frome from German dining; of course they could look like the late Max Schmeling but that's not what pops into some minds.

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RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? - Sun, 01/1/06 3:27 PM
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You mean Gert Frobe I suspect. AKA Goldfinger
Yes if people are satisfied with Olive Garden, the situation might be hopeless.
Also too many people out there who pride themselves as "Chefs" who create these dainty little plates where they dribble their reduced basalmic vinegar into artisitc curly cues for their own egos. Then
charge a fortune. Ughhhhhh Wheres my Sauerbraten!!!Mein Gott!

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RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? - Sun, 01/1/06 3:28 PM
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Otto's Brauhaus in Horsham, PA is still open. www.ottosbrauhaus.com

The Hoffman Haus in center city Philadelphia and the Schwarzwald Inn in Olney are long gone.

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RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? - Sun, 01/1/06 3:36 PM
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Ja, das icht Bert Frobe

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RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? - Sun, 01/1/06 4:24 PM

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RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? - Mon, 01/2/06 12:35 PM
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I've seen a post here mentioning the Sunrise Village on Long Island that existed many years ago. I was never in the place but heard alot about it. Anyway the last owner who sold it traveled around the country with family for around a year after that. Once that trip was finished they got the restaurant itch again and opened a smaller german restaurant just up the road from the former location of the Sunrise Village. They are about to celebrate their 25th anniversary at their restaurant called the Oak Chalet. Their website url is www.oakchalet.net. I also know that one of the current owners of Zum Stammtische (Werner) trained in their kitchen for a while. He not only learned a bit about cooking but did a little cooking of his own by meeting his future wife, who is the niece of the chef of the Oak Chalet. So the Sunrise Village, Oak Chalet and Zum Stammtische share some history together.

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RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? - Mon, 01/2/06 1:19 PM
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Originally posted by Benzee
Gus tavern in Newburgh has an Octoberfest this coming weekend Sept 10-11th . They set up two big tents in the parking lot and serve good german food and adult refreshments .




This got me to thinking about a really great German restaurant that my parents & I used to patronize many years ago. Located in Cold Spring, NY (the one on the Hudson River--not the one on Long Island) was Gus's Antique Bar, or at least I think that was the name. I have eaten a lot of Sauerbraten in my life, and I still think that what I used to have at Gus's was the best. Perhaps it was even better than the Sauerbraten that I make occasionally.

So, here's my question:
Is "Gus Tavern" in Newburgh run by the same people who operated the place in Cold Spring? I'm sure that old Gus himself is long gone, but perhaps his children run this other place, and perhaps the recipes are the same. If that is the case, I would love to take a drive to that restaurant. Does anyone know the answer to my question?

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RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? - Sun, 01/8/06 2:57 PM
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Our favorite German restaurant is located in Lake Placid NY - the Alpine Cellar (located downstairs at the Alpine Motor Inn) It was closed for awhile, but has re-opened in the past couple of years, and the sauerbraten is still my favorite. I've been making their Red Cabbage recipe for years which is printed in a regional cookbook of recipes from local restaurants, but I have never been able to get my sauerbraten remotely close to what they serve at the Alpine. (guess I'll just have to keep trying!)

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RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? - Mon, 01/9/06 10:13 AM
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On trips to the Outer Banks, NC
I like to go to The Weeping Radish in Manteo, NC.
Great food, good microbrew.

I recently learned of another German restaurant, this one in Shepherdstown, WV, The Bavarian Inn.
Aside from the beautiful scenic views from this property, the food and service is excellent.

The dining room is very formal, but we had a late lunch in the casual downstairs bar. Good times!
We're hoping to get back there and stay at the inn.

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RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? - Mon, 01/9/06 2:35 PM
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Originally posted by MilwFoodlovers


I wonder why so many of these restaurants close? Are the recipes that daunting?


I think alot of these restaurants close is because the owners reach retirement age or due to Health reasons, can no long run and manage these resturants. Then years ago this would mean the younger generation would take over, but now adays the younger generations don't take over the restaurant. They see 9 to 5 job, with good salaries and good benefits.

Because they are ethnic type places, a chain, a non-ethnic person or a another type of restaurant won't take it over, thus it closes.

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RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? - Mon, 01/9/06 4:08 PM
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I agree with Garry.
And, I also think the German/Bavarian/old world style, just does not keep up with the slick modern restaurants that are popular today.

Stylistically, it's old fashioned for restaurant goers, who tend to tend to look for the "in" place. Old World Bavarian restaurants, just don't seem to grab the niche of the vast restaurant goers.

In addition, in many cities, German neighborhoods are considerably smaller and in many cases, gone.
Slowly, the restaurants close, due to the kids not wanting to take over the family business and lower number of restaurant patrons.

I think the mix of a neaveaux cooking style and sleek modern restaurants, combined with ever shrinking european ethnic neighborhoods, has made many bavarian restaurants (and bakeries) close over time.


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RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? - Mon, 01/9/06 5:15 PM
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Originally posted by Scorereader

I agree with Garry.
And, I also think the German/Bavarian/old world style, just does not keep up with the slick modern restaurants that are popular today.

Stylistically, it's old fashioned for restaurant goers, who tend to tend to look for the "in" place. Old World Bavarian restaurants, just don't seem to grab the niche of the vast restaurant goers.

In addition, in many cities, German neighborhoods are considerably smaller and in many cases, gone.
Slowly, the restaurants close, due to the kids not wanting to take over the family business and lower number of restaurant patrons.

I think the mix of a neaveaux cooking style and sleek modern restaurants, combined with ever shrinking european ethnic neighborhoods, has made many bavarian restaurants (and bakeries) close over time.




Also don't forget the low carb diet fad!

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RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? - Thu, 01/26/06 12:45 AM
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It's just not cool to be German, not like being Irish or Italian or Hispanic. How many little kids do you know with even vaguely German first names? Well, mine for one, but how many others?

Having the Krauts as villains in 2 world wars didn't help either. During the 1st one, lots of people and places gave up their German names.

Back to the subject, the Rathskellar in Indy has a pretty cool atmosphere and the food is passable at least, similar to the Bergie.

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RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? - Thu, 01/26/06 1:00 AM
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Auf Wiedersehen... The Schnitzelbank in Grand Rapids will be closing their doors next Tuesday. The 72 year old institution was purchased by a local hospital that plans on making the site into a parking lot. The grandson of the founders plans on retiring...
Another gold mine that sadly goes into the history books.

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RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? - Thu, 01/26/06 9:21 AM
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Considering that many folks like certain German specialties, and the given dearth of German restaurants in Jersey (we have a few, but only 2 or three are considered good), I'm surprised that certain good restaurants don't offer 4 or 5 German dishes on their menu.
The Bear

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RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? - Thu, 01/26/06 9:56 AM
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Any insite as to why there seems to be a "death" of German restaurants in New Jersey.... as well as a lack of the same in many other areas??

It seems from this forum that there is a real desire for German meals.


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RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? - Thu, 01/26/06 10:09 AM
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I think I answered my own posting, after reading backwards in this forum... again... such great information.. I just have to read before I write.... sorry!

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RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? - Wed, 02/8/06 1:57 PM
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Originally posted by GeoNit

Sadly, this one burned to the ground this morning:


http://www.centredaily.com/mld/centredaily/13821262.htm

http://www.happyvalley.com/BestOf/bushhouse.cfm






that is a complete shame. very sad.

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RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? - Thu, 02/9/06 9:55 PM
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Originally posted by Kraut_by_marriage

quote:
Originally posted by Roy

I can't tell you where to go to get good German food but I can tell you where not to go....Connecticut. A vast wasteland for anything authentic.


Have you tried
Helga's German American Cuisine
55 Stony Hill Rd - Bethel, CT - - - that was always our favorite.


Sorry, but I think Helga's is horrible.

Low quality food, poorly prepared.

Not recommended.


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RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? - Thu, 02/9/06 9:59 PM
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Originally posted by kozel

I don't descriminate. I'll drink German as well as Czech beer.


You shoulod try the best beer in the world which is not from Germany or Czechoslovakia it's from...

Belgium!


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RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? - Thu, 02/9/06 10:27 PM
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It's just not cool to be German, not like being Irish or Italian or Hispanic.


Yah it's cool to be German. You have that extra arrrrr in your accent. Moi is very happy to have the country German accent.
My mother is German and in her 70's and it was hilarious when an older man heard her talking in the grocery line and swirled up to her and said "ah, an Irish lass!" and I turned around and said "Irish lass my a** try Teutonic terror!".
But, really if you ever come through Lexington and like German food you should try Marikkas --- they have a bazillion different beers.

Andrea

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RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? - Thu, 02/9/06 11:34 PM
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In Portland, Oregon area we have the Rheinlander, and about four Gustav's, all in the same family.

http://gustavs.net/index.html

http://www.rheinlander.com/

They serve very good food, very good service and the price is good. I have been to Germany twice now, and my husband used to live there, back in his Army days. The thing about Germany is the food changes, when you travel North, South, East, or West. All good, just different influences. If your in the area, you really need to stop by at Gustav's, they are open all day,(don't close between lunch and dinnner) so you can dive in at any time.

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RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? - Fri, 02/10/06 8:01 AM
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If your ever in the Detroit area, check out Jacoby's Biergarten. Nothing fancy but great schnitzel, menu and price's.


http://www.jacobys1904.com

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RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? - Sun, 02/12/06 10:41 AM
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There is a yummy German place in Tampa with great entertainment! http://www.schnitzelhaustampa.com/

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RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? - Mon, 02/13/06 10:31 AM
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Yah it's cool to be German. You have that extra arrrrr in your accent. Moi is very happy to have the country German accent.
My mother is German and in her 70's and it was hilarious when an older man heard her talking in the grocery line and swirled up to her and said "ah, an Irish lass!" and I turned around and said "Irish lass my a** try Teutonic terror!".

Andrea


Nothing better than a Hübsche fräulein mit einem deutschen akzent!




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RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? - Mon, 02/13/06 12:11 PM
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Teutonic terror!".

Ha, have to remember that one!

Where I come from, the mark of a "dutchman" (deutschmann) was his "dees" and "does". That and using a "wacuum" cleaner.

It's kinda interesting to me that while the restaurants seem to be disappearing, kraut, brats, rye bread, etc. appear in just about any supermarket. Maybe German food, like soul food or southern country cooking, is just something you make at home...

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RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? - Sat, 02/18/06 2:53 PM
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If your ever in the Detroit area, check out Jacoby's Biergarten. Nothing fancy but great schnitzel, menu and price's.
http://www.jacobys1904.com


I like Jacoby's though it's not a particularly ethnic German restaurant ... In Detroit, that would be the Dakota Inn Rathskeller.

The Dakota Inn Rathskeller is the only surviving, true ethnic German restaurant still existing in Detroit, and they have the very best German cooking in the city.
The Dakota is as close as you can get to the type of classic 1930's German restaurant (Rathskeller/Biergarten) that was a mainstay of German immigrant community in Detroit during the first half of the last century. The restaurant's original interior has changed little over the years, though the iceboxes (coolers) are no longer trap-doors in the floor behind the bar. Heavy wooden tables and benches line the main hall and Deer and Elk adorn the walls.

When I first visited the Dakota, patrons who needed another stein of beer still could still summon the braufrau (waitress) by pulling on the rope to ring the bell that hung above many tables. They've since removed the ropes.
There are German style sing-alongs Fridays and Saturdays which feature American standards of the 1920's and 30's as well as the classic German sing-along `Schnitzelbank`; all accompanied by the piano which resides up above the crowd in an alcove in the wall, On weekends the restaurant is full of singers during the sing-alongs - it is a very popular tradition.

The menu, as well as the beer and liquor selection are absolutely as authentic as you will find. When you have an Asbach Uralt or a Jaegermeister here, you are taking part in a tradition that goes back over 60 years at the Dakota.

Their website is http://www.dakota-inn.com


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RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? - Sat, 02/25/06 4:23 PM
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I'll throw in my two cents:

In Pittsburgh we have a few exceptional German restaurants:

Penn Brewery - www.pennbrew.com
Max's - www.maxsalleghenytavern.com
Kleiner Deutschmann - www.pittsburghlive.com/x/style/articles/s_424633.html

Bonus: Max's Allegheny Tavern is haunted!

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RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? - Sat, 02/25/06 8:04 PM
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In Portland, Oregon area we have the Rheinlander, and about four Gustav's, all in the same family.

http://gustavs.net/index.html

http://www.rheinlander.com/

They serve very good food, very good service and the price is good. I have been to Germany twice now, and my husband used to live there, back in his Army days. The thing about Germany is the food changes, when you travel North, South, East, or West. All good, just different influences. If your in the area, you really need to stop by at Gustav's, they are open all day,(don't close between lunch and dinnner) so you can dive in at any time.



Lamkid, I made a similar post this past summer. Didn't realize there's now a Gustav's in Vancouver. Anyhow, I opined that The Rheinlander is the best German restaurant on the West Coast, in my view. Post quoted below.

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"Months ago" now, I opined that in my opinion, the best German restaurant I've been to on the West Coast is in Portland. It is Horst Mager's Rhinelander. Second place, IMO, might go to Shroeder's in San Francisco.

In Portland, there are a couple of more casual offshoots of the Rhinelander called Gustav's. There's one in Clackamas (Eastside) and one on the Westside. They have a family style dinner which is both good and a good deal. For about $11.00 per person, you get sauerbraten, red cabbage, sour kraut, spatzle, sausages and a chicken schnitzel (sp?) which is outstanding.

I have a - let's just say "healthy" - appetite, and there was plenty.

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RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? - Sun, 02/26/06 8:46 PM
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And I thought I knew all the German places here on Long Island. We had dinner today at the Oak Chalet in Bellmore. According to their site, they've been there 25 years now. It's a really nice place, pleasant service and the food was pretty good. They had a good crowd for a Sunday afternoon and most of the customers seemed to be regulars.

http://www.oakchalet.net

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RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? - Tue, 02/28/06 4:37 AM
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http://www.magazineusa.com/lv2/catalog/dir_germanrestaurants.asp?state=NY]

This'll link to some more NY State German Restaurants.

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RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? - Tue, 02/28/06 8:19 AM
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http://www.magazineusa.com/lv2/catalog/dir_germanrestaurants.asp?state=NY]

This'll link to some more NY State German Restaurants.


The list seems old and out of date. Niedertstein's, Flessel's, Gebhardt's(Glendale) are long gone. The P Valley Old Heidelberg Inn and Mayer's are gone too I think. The Pine Grove and Lutzens are not the same places any more. There's no 631 area codes either. I'd verify anything on the list before I'd go. You have any knowledge of those South Shore entries? (Georgia's or Kleinfelder's)

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RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? - Tue, 03/7/06 12:12 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by bigbear

http://www.magazineusa.com/lv2/catalog/dir_germanrestaurants.asp?state=NY]

This'll link to some more NY State German Restaurants.


The list seems old and out of date. Niedertstein's, Flessel's, Gebhardt's(Glendale) are long gone. The P Valley Old Heidelberg Inn and Mayer's are gone too I think. The Pine Grove and Lutzens are not the same places any more. There's no 631 area codes either. I'd verify anything on the list before I'd go. You have any knowledge of those South Shore entries? (Georgia's or Kleinfelder's)

You're right. The list must be old. I know that Georgia's is gone too. My bad.

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RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? - Tue, 03/7/06 1:34 PM
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http://www.klucksrestaurant.com/


If you're ever in Cleveland, this place is very good. Been here forever, good veal dishes.

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RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? - Thu, 03/16/06 8:15 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by kozel

quote:
Originally posted by bigbear

http://www.magazineusa.com/lv2/catalog/dir_germanrestaurants.asp?state=NY]

This'll link to some more NY State German Restaurants.


The list seems old and out of date. Niedertstein's, Flessel's, Gebhardt's(Glendale) are long gone. The P Valley Old Heidelberg Inn and Mayer's are gone too I think. The Pine Grove and Lutzens are not the same places any more. There's no 631 area codes either. I'd verify anything on the list before I'd go. You have any knowledge of those South Shore entries? (Georgia's or Kleinfelder's)

You're right. The list must be old. I know that Georgia's is gone too. My bad.


Triangle Hofbrau on Jamaica Avenue has been gone for at least 10 years.

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RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? - Tue, 05/30/06 7:41 PM
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Dear Friends:

Well, autumn is here. It's getting on Oktoberfest time. I've got a hankering for some really fine German cuisine. Where can it be found? We've eaten at the Berghoff and Chicago Brauhaus in Chicago. Neither one did much for us at all. Our absolute favorite used to be Dieterle's in Elgin, Illinois, but it closed years ago. We've tried Mader's and Karl Ratsch's in Milwaukee. Wasn't too keen on those either. We're willing to make a weekend road trip to find some good German food. Somebody please tell us where it is?!

Many thanks.

KimChee43

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RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? - Tue, 05/30/06 7:45 PM
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Dear Friends:

Well, autumn is here. It's getting on Oktoberfest time. I've got a hankering for some really fine German cuisine. Where can it be found? We've eaten at the Berghoff and Chicago Brauhaus in Chicago. Neither one did much for us at all. Our absolute favorite used to be Dieterle's in Elgin, Illinois, but it closed years ago. We've tried Mader's and Karl Ratsch's in Milwaukee. Wasn't too keen on those either. We're willing to make a weekend road trip to find some good German food. Somebody please tell us where it is?!

well verytime i get a chance I go to the Schnitzelplatz
in Glendale Heights . The Owners Elfriede and Wolfgang are great
and so is the Bartender Leo( tell Them hello and that Anita from Michigan send you ) and all the staff. Best german Food around and for Desert dont miss the Ruedesheimer Coffee
Wish I could get there more often.
Enjoy :)


Many thanks.

KimChee43

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RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? - Thu, 06/8/06 6:58 PM
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In Glendale, AZ, there is a reasonably decent German restaurant called (of all things), Murphy's. The schnitzel is pretty tasty, and they serve Spaten Oktoberfest. That's all I require of a German restaurant.

Oh, and a belated RIP to Haussner's restaurant in Highlandtown, MD (near Baltimore). A legend that I'll never forget, if for nothing else the second largest ball of twine in the world.

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RE: Where Have All the German Restaurants Gone? - Wed, 06/28/06 7:18 PM
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The Rheinland in Independence, MO (208 N Main St) was pretty interesting. Granted, I went there once. But it seemed pretty authentic. Anybody else been there?

Here's a review: http://www.kcactive.com/fooddrink/restrev/rest2005_08_05.htm
The lunch menu: http://www.rheinlandrestaurant.com/lunch-menu.html
The dinner menu: http://www.rheinlandrestaurant.com/dinner-menu.html

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