Originally posted by leethebard
Now this should be required reading for ANYONE who posts on any pizza thread. In a nutshell,this tells you what you need to know. Yes it is the ingredients,the cooking oven and techniques, and the skill of a pizza maker. And Yes,the fast food pizza chains compromised ALL those aspects EVERY ONE...look back at that list....WHICH one does Pizza Crud use...or any of the even-lesser fast food joints??? Taste a pizza from a place that sunscribes to the Neopolitan Association...and you'll see the difference. To quote a saying on so many pizza boxes: "You've tried the rest, now try the best". I'm not agreeing with every place on this list...just the sentiment about the making of a GREAT pizza.
There is one other ingredient also, and some of our dedicated pizza makers here at Roadfood know this: LOVE! Love of pizza,good pizza and the love of enjoying a great taste tradition. Remember the first word in fast -food and think. Little we do for love(don't go there, some of you) is or should be "fast".
To me,great pizza making is an art and a craft! And there is great art and crappy art...but rarely fast art!
Yes, we're all entitled to eat what we like...like we can all prefer comic book art to a Rembrant,but,hell, there is a difference!
I don't know what it means(actually,I do) but note most places mentioned are in the north east or California!
Sorry I've rattled on, but pizza is and has been, and always will be a passion for me...good pizza!!! If you've never had a wood burning oven pizza made by a pizzaria sanctioned by the Neoploitan Association,some day,if you're lucky,try one....that's pizza as the Neoplitans named it!!!!! Not pizza hut stuff.
I'm not telling you to dislike any thing else, just defining the art.
YOU CAN LIKE A PINTO...YOU CAN EVEN ARGUE THAT YOU THINK IT IS A GREAT-MADE AUTOMOBILE....BUT FACTS ARE FACTS...AND A STUBBORN STREAK DOES NOT ALTER REALITY!!!!
Thanks for listening to someone who loves and still enjoys the art of great Italian cooking, and especially my favorite food!
Being from Jersey you should not have any trouble finding great pizza close by still I would presume?
I am a native New Yorker, born in the Bronx, and lived my formative years in Yonkers, NY. I grew up on pizza, cannolis, crusty Italian bread, hoagies with Italian meats and cheeses and great lasagna and ravioli and spaghetti dishes. Where I lived - near Yonkers racetrack, there was always a great hole in the wall pizzeria within two blocks of my home.
I have been away from NY since 1970, having living in SC, AL and OH. I have been in OH since 1977 - in and around Cincinnati - I now live in the boonies 60 miles or so east of Greater Cincinnati in Brown County which borders up against Adams County, where many Mennonites and Amish live.
Trying to get NY type pizza here is like impossible.
I have to go to Cinci or Dayton areas to find anything resembling decent pizza. I am part of a lunchbunch trio who generally eat somewhere in Cinci, Dayton, Wilmington area every Thursday trying as many new places as we can find. Being the only one in the group of Italian heritage it is always interesting when we visit an Italian pizzeria or restaurant as to what we order and what we thing of the food.
There are a couple of places in Cinci where I enjoy pizza - Dewey's and Trattoria Roma - and in the Dayton area I have one place where their pizza resembles NY pizza - Troni's - in Kettering (run by an Albanian family). There are no pizzerias in Brown Country or Adams county worth a damn.
I guess I am talking more than I need too for my first post here but I did want you folks to know I share the sentiments that the chains have ruined true good pizza for the masses and most citizens of the great USA have no clue what pizza is supposed to taste like.
You will find me posting a lot on the Cincinnati food thread where my cohort franklee has been posting. He urged me to register here so I could post my own thoughts on our restaurant outings etc. I finally decided to do so since he and I have so many differences in food taste (he is from Tennessee originally).