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ScreamingChicken
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Onions on cheesesteak - Tue, 04/8/08 2:18 PM
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WJ's cheesesteak trip report got me wondering:

How essential to a cheesesteak are the onions? I'm pretty picky about when, where, and how I like onions and on sandwiches generally doesn't appeal to me; WJ mentioned they were "fried to death" at 1 place and that's probably the only way I'd be interested in them.

So is it possible to have a good cheesesteak with just the meat and cheese, and no or very few onions?

Brad

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RE: Onions on cheesesteak - Tue, 04/8/08 2:21 PM
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Oh I think onions would be essential...They add a flavor that would be missing otherwise...You need the taste...I guess,if you enjoy the sandwich without them...what you don't miss won't hurt you, afterall...but as for me..give me those onions!

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RE: Onions on cheesesteak - Tue, 04/8/08 2:22 PM
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Probably--but that is not how I take it. "With" only.

I suppose if you don't care for onions, a cheesesteak without them is perfectly acceptable.

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RE: Onions on cheesesteak - Tue, 04/8/08 2:24 PM
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Wit and wit extra, but cook them well. Raw onions are for burgers. Come to think of it, cooked onions are good on burgers, too. hmmmm...raw onions are for chili.

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RE: Onions on cheesesteak - Tue, 04/8/08 2:25 PM
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I was wondering the same thing. I am not an onion fan and I wasn't sure if the onions could be separated from the meat, or were they cooked together.

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RE: Onions on cheesesteak - Tue, 04/8/08 2:32 PM
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Brad,

Most places here in Philly and probably the entire Northeast part of the country will fry up the onions pretty good. My issue is- how thick are the onion slices, Lorenzo's literally hacks the meat and onions together while on the grill, so the onion slices are really small and therefore enjoy a more thorough frying.

My worst cheesesteak award still goes the piece of garbage served to me at the Puyallup Fair in suburban Seattle.

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RE: Onions on cheesesteak - Tue, 04/8/08 2:36 PM
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Hey Brad ~ What about skip the onions and get mushrooms and peppers instead?

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RE: Onions on cheesesteak - Tue, 04/8/08 2:51 PM
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My worst cheesesteak award still goes the piece of garbage served to me at the Puyallup Fair in suburban Seattle.


What possessed you to get a cheesesteak in Seattle??

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RE: Onions on cheesesteak - Tue, 04/8/08 3:03 PM
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Originally posted by Slim Strummer

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My worst cheesesteak award still goes the piece of garbage served to me at the Puyallup Fair in suburban Seattle.


What possessed you to get a cheesesteak in Seattle??


It was 1994, I was living there and I was curious
all I can say is BIG MISTAKE- that was the first and last cheesesteak I ever had in Seattle.

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RE: Onions on cheesesteak - Tue, 04/8/08 3:05 PM
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It is a must!-but too many onions are a bad thing-I like chopped onions better than sliced-they don't pull out of the sandwich like sliced onions do.

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RE: Onions on cheesesteak - Tue, 04/8/08 3:52 PM
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Listen, onions are not essential. The essential elements are the meat, roll, and cheese in that order. I put those elements in that order because close to 50% of people in Philly order a steak sandwich and the other half order a cheesesteak.

If you like fried onions, then I wholeheartedly recommend doing so. There are those that order raw onions on their cheesesteaks or steak sandwiches.

Cheesesteaks are all about personal tastes. Whatever you like in that sandwich will become your preferred version.

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RE: Onions on cheesesteak - Tue, 04/8/08 3:55 PM
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For me, if there are no grilled onions I'm not eating it.

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RE: Onions on cheesesteak - Tue, 04/8/08 3:55 PM
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I have to figure if the first rule is that one has to specify onions or no onions, than it's OK not to have them. If you are onion-phobic, leave them off.

Me, I would ask for "wit". I love onions.

Leaving the meat or cheese off is a definite no-no.

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RE: Onions on cheesesteak - Tue, 04/8/08 3:56 PM
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I also like the grilled onions, but I do prefer them chopped up very fine, similar to what Lorenzo's does according to wanderingjew.

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RE: Onions on cheesesteak - Tue, 04/8/08 4:13 PM
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Onions are an essential part of the cheesesteak experience for me. I do like them cooked until soft and browned. Raw onions don’t belong on a cheesesteak.

While we are on the topic, provolone or cheez whiz, please. No mushrooms required, but occasionally I do enjoy both grilled sweet peppers or hot banana peppers added on.

I don’t agree with those who want them dressed further with mayo, pizza sauce, etc.

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RE: Onions on cheesesteak - Tue, 04/8/08 4:39 PM
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St. Louis guy:

Seems to me a pizza steak is simply a different sandwich than a cheesesteak. I like each, but consider it inelegant to characterize a pizza steak as a sheesesteak.

And, "whiz wit" seems to me to be the only way to go with a cheesesteak.

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RE: Onions on cheesesteak - Tue, 04/8/08 4:42 PM
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Onions,Green Peppers,Cheeze Whiz,and Mushrooms all belong. Jalapenos are very good also but I just dont like Banana Peppers on anything.Especially when they are cooked....Russ

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RE: Onions on cheesesteak - Tue, 04/8/08 4:49 PM
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I don't think I've had a cheesesteak without fried onions since I was a teen. I'm in my early 40s now. I'm pretty sure I'd feel like the sandwich was missing a key ingredient were I to have one without them.

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RE: Onions on cheesesteak - Tue, 04/8/08 4:57 PM
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Definitely must have onions. Come to think of it, anything I make or order is going to have onions, lots of onions if onions are an option. Raw, grilled, fried, chopped, minced, sliced, powder, or however, I'll eat them.

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RE: Onions on cheesesteak - Tue, 04/8/08 4:58 PM
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Originally posted by Russ Jackson

Onions,Green Peppers,Cheeze Whiz,and Mushrooms all belong. Jalapenos are very good also but I just dont like Banana Peppers on anything.Especially when they are cooked....Russ




RJ-Green pepper belong on a Italian sausage sandwich not a cheesesteak. Mushrooms as well-not traditional.

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RE: Onions on cheesesteak - Tue, 04/8/08 5:30 PM
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I dont know-it all sounds good to me...but right now I am so hungry I could eat my hand!!!

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RE: Onions on cheesesteak - Tue, 04/8/08 5:31 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by wanderingjew

quote:
Originally posted by Slim Strummer

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My worst cheesesteak award still goes the piece of garbage served to me at the Puyallup Fair in suburban Seattle.


What possessed you to get a cheesesteak in Seattle??


It was 1994, I was living there and I was curious
all I can say is BIG MISTAKE- that was the first and last cheesesteak I ever had in Seattle.


Not sure if Puyallup is considered a suburb of Seattle since I grew up a few cities away but I have to agree that back in the 90's I think I tried the same thing and it was no where near what a proper Cheese Steak should be I had to get the taste out with a swiss Earthquake burger!

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RE: Onions on cheesesteak - Tue, 04/8/08 5:46 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by mikez629


Originally posted by Russ Jackson

Onions,Green Peppers,Cheeze Whiz,and Mushrooms all belong. Jalapenos are very good also but I just dont like Banana Peppers on anything.Especially when they are cooked....Russ




RJ-Green pepper belong on a Italian sausage sandwich not a cheesesteak. Mushrooms as well-not traditional.



I agree but if I make them at home I always put Jalapenos on them. Jalapenos belong on everything...Russ

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RE: Onions on cheesesteak - Tue, 04/8/08 7:08 PM
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Wow, lots of interesting ideas...

I don't know where I'd find a cheesesteak here in Madison/southern WI, but if I could I think I'd like it wit if the onions are chopped small and well cooked, otherwise witout. Top it with provolone cheese, please, and maybe some mushrooms if they're available. No peppers or anything else, thanks.

There's gotta be someplace around here that makes a passable version...

Brad

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RE: Onions on cheesesteak - Tue, 04/8/08 7:16 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Russ Jackson

Onions,Green Peppers,Cheeze Whiz,and Mushrooms all belong. Jalapenos are very good also but I just dont like Banana Peppers on anything.Especially when they are cooked....Russ


Seriously, why?

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RE: Onions on cheesesteak - Tue, 04/8/08 7:18 PM
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Originally posted by Brad_Olson

Wow, lots of interesting ideas...

I don't know where I'd find a cheesesteak here in Madison/southern WI, but if I could I think I'd like it wit if the onions are chopped small and well cooked, otherwise witout. Top it with provolone cheese, please, and maybe some mushrooms if they're available. No peppers or anything else, thanks.

There's gotta be someplace around here that makes a passable version...

Brad


Brad: A couple years ago I had a very good version (for outside of the Philly area mind you) at The Philly Way on South 2nd St. in Milwaukee. The owner, Dave London, is from Philadelphia and knows what makes a good cheesesteak. He uses Amoroso's rolls. He even has Tastykakes!

Try it - it's really a good cheesesteak. Let me know what you think.

And, there's Chubby's Cheesesteaks 2232 N. Oakland Ave. Milwaukee. Rolls made by a local baker. My sources tell me that Chubby's is pretty good. Please try one there and give me a report. Thanks!!


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RE: Onions on cheesesteak - Tue, 04/8/08 7:35 PM
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According to[url='http://411.yellowpages.com/name/Milwaukee-WI/philly?from=411com&search_mode=all&search_terms=philly']this 411.com search[/url] there are 3 Milwaukee businesses with "Philly" in the name:

The Philly Way on S. 2nd St.
A Taste of Philly on N. Teutonia Ave.
A Taste of Philly on W. Burleigh St.

These would all be 90 minutes or more from me but maybe some of the Milwaukee locals would be interested.

Unfortunately there are no "Philly" businesses in Madison...

Brad

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RE: Onions on cheesesteak - Tue, 04/8/08 7:51 PM
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Brad: What about these? Big Red's Steaks- did they ever open?
Supreme Pizza
Charley's Grilled Subs
Ians Pizza (ianspizza.com)

These are ALL in Madison, WI

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RE: Onions on cheesesteak - Tue, 04/8/08 8:37 PM
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Cheesewit-thanks for the tips in MIlw.Never knew about the cheesewit places.Now I am on a mission and will report back....good fodder for my writings...

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RE: Onions on cheesesteak - Tue, 04/8/08 8:41 PM
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Originally posted by annpeeples

Cheesewit-thanks for the tips in MIlw.Never knew about the cheesewit places.Now I am on a mission and will report back....good fodder for my writings...


You're welcome! I want full reports!! Enjoy yourself!

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RE: Onions on cheesesteak - Tue, 04/8/08 8:44 PM
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No Yellow Pages for Big Red's so I guess I would have to say that it either never opened or didn't make it. The other 3 are pretty much downtown and I don't get there very often, but I'll keep them in mind. Thanks!

Brad

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RE: Onions on cheesesteak - Tue, 04/8/08 9:13 PM
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After seeing Wanderingjew's Philly report on cheesesteaks the answer is you gotta have onions in my opinion.

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RE: Onions on cheesesteak - Sat, 04/12/08 3:48 PM
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The onions are just as important to the cheesesteak as the cheese.

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RE: Onions on cheesesteak - Sat, 04/12/08 3:57 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Brad_Olson

Wow, lots of interesting ideas...

I don't know where I'd find a cheesesteak here in Madison/southern WI, but if I could I think I'd like it wit if the onions are chopped small and well cooked, otherwise witout. Top it with provolone cheese, please, and maybe some mushrooms if they're available. No peppers or anything else, thanks.

There's gotta be someplace around here that makes a passable version...

Brad

Why not try this product and make youo own?

http://www.stehouwerfrozenfoods.com/product_ribeye.htm

They're available in supermarkets throughout the Midwest. And they'rereally good.

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RE: Onions on cheesesteak - Sat, 04/12/08 4:44 PM
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The building in Milwaukee on 2nd and Florida is very interesting. It houses The Philly Way on the south, Caroline's Jazz Club on the corner in the middle and Soup Brothers on the west. I don't know how many people have a hard time finding the cheesesteak business; even people that drive by it every day. I've been there several times and it really is good. Charley's Grilled Subs are nothing I'd order again; generic franchise food. Chubby's I haven't been to.

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RE: Onions on cheesesteak - Sat, 04/12/08 6:44 PM
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For me-absolutely vital. My cheesesteaks are always whiz wit!

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RE: Onions on cheesesteak - Sun, 04/13/08 6:23 PM
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I suppose they'd be essential if one ate onions. I hate onions and peppers and never eat them, and am fine without them. Growing up in Philadelphia, obviously I've been eating steaks all my life (yes, we call them steaks or cheesesteaks), and have had absolutely no problem specifically requesting a plain cheesesteak with extra cheese (and mushrooms sometimes!).

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RE: Onions on cheesesteak - Mon, 05/5/08 6:28 PM
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I'm not wild on onion either....just steak wit Whiz and shrooms.

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RE: Onions on cheesesteak - Mon, 05/5/08 6:34 PM
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Yep I prefer a wiz without, but will occasionally dabble with the onions. Like Harriet and celery stated if you don't like onions it will ruin the steak for you if there are onions ontop