Who Serves The Best Hamburger Steak?

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OliverB
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Who Serves The Best Hamburger Steak? - Sat, 05/17/08 3:56 PM
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With fried onions, mushrooms and sweet canned peas floating in hot thick gravy?

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RE: Who Serves The Best Hamburger Steak? - Sat, 05/17/08 3:59 PM
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So, where exactly are you from, stranger?
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RE: Who Serves The Best Hamburger Steak? - Sat, 05/17/08 4:04 PM
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I'm from Montreal, probably far out of most of the roadfoodies jurisdiction here.

I'm often on the North Country/Plattsburgh end of the border and venture up to the green mountains of Vermont quite often. But it was more of a general inquiry. Of course, if anyone knew of any legendary stops in the Quebec/Ontario region, that'd be ideal!

I'd seriously be willing to travel across continents for a really serious hamburger steak!

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RE: Who Serves The Best Hamburger Steak? - Sat, 05/17/08 4:12 PM
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Originally posted by OliverB


With fried onions, mushrooms and sweet canned peas floating in hot thick gravy?

That sounds really terrible.

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RE: Who Serves The Best Hamburger Steak? - Sat, 05/17/08 4:17 PM
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Huh, is there any other way to make a hamburger steak, Michael?!

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RE: Who Serves The Best Hamburger Steak? - Sat, 05/17/08 4:19 PM
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Hamburger steak is never serious................it is just a big hamburger!

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RE: Who Serves The Best Hamburger Steak? - Sat, 05/17/08 4:24 PM
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Originally posted by OliverB

Huh, is there any other way to make a hamburger steak, Michael?!

Yes. Don't grind it and cook something else with it. But, if one must eat a thick slab of ground meat, the idea of canned peas is the regurgitator.

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RE: Who Serves The Best Hamburger Steak? - Sat, 05/17/08 4:39 PM
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What's the something else you'd have in mind?

A hamburger steak should be just that... ground from chuck and grilled in a big scrubby frying pan over the burners with the sizzlin' meaty juices blending and soaking into the sloppy pile of onions and cooked mushrooms laid atop!

Toss it onto a plate with some fluffy white mashed potatoes and sweet canned peas ladled over large chunks of thick brown gravy and let it all blend into a dark soupy artery clogging mess!

It's the American way.

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RE: Who Serves The Best Hamburger Steak? - Sat, 05/17/08 5:00 PM
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Sounds interesting, Oliver. I would try it. I don't think beef once ground, qualifies as steak no matter what cut of beef you ground up. I do think you could get this dish at any diner anywhere though, if you asked them to make it for you. I think they would have all the ingredients on hand and be able to do this dish with ease.

Who knows, request this at enough diners and before you know it you will be famous for inventing Ground Beef Ala Oliver. I do think I would try fresh or frozen peas though. That canned stuff is pretty terrible.

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RE: Who Serves The Best Hamburger Steak? - Sat, 05/17/08 5:18 PM
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Hmmm... maybe it's just a regional Quebec thing than because here in Montreal, it's quite common diner fare.

The problem is that only a few places really know how to get it right with the mash and gravy & tenderness of the meat. I had one at Magnan's recently (well known for their roast beef in town) and it was very good; One of the best I've had in a while! The gravy was dark and spicy and had a smoky flavor and the hambuger steak was charred just right and buried in onions and sauteed mushrooms.

Usually the greasy spoons in town will just serve you an overcooked hamburger sans-bun with some canned gravy and onions on top. Few places know how to do it just right. I'm surprised to learn that this isn't a typical diner staple in the U.S. as well, it seems to fit the style of classic American diner food... maybe we Montrealers are spoiled with our homemade gravy on everything (poutine, chicken, etc.)

I wonder, do you have "Hot Chicken Sandwiches" in the States as well; I don't recall ever seeing this on a menu. I wonder if that's a Montreal thing too?

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RE: Who Serves The Best Hamburger Steak? - Sat, 05/17/08 5:30 PM
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Oliver, I think you see hot turkey sandwiches more often than chicken. I'm trying to think why that is...

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RE: Who Serves The Best Hamburger Steak? - Sat, 05/17/08 5:44 PM
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OliverB, welcome.. I too enjoy a good hamburger steak, gravy and green peas. Also add a good dip of mashed taters underneath the peas and gravy. Pass the pepper mill. Heavy on the gravy and onions for me.Fine dining!

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RE: Who Serves The Best Hamburger Steak? - Sat, 05/17/08 5:48 PM
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Oliver,

We have this stuff in the US in spades. I think what you are talking about is that in Quebec they do things in a French way and that usually means attention to detail, especially with the sauce. Fine with me, every time.

Keep your commentary about Canadian food coming. It is very interesting.

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RE: Who Serves The Best Hamburger Steak? - Sat, 05/17/08 7:12 PM
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Originally posted by OliverB

What's the something else you'd have in mind?

Oh, dog food, perhaps. If, that is, you're not fond of the dog. I believe that calling a pile of ground meat a steak is as ridiculous as calling a pile of oyster shells seafood.

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RE: Who Serves The Best Hamburger Steak? - Sat, 05/17/08 7:18 PM
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Now folks, don't tell me you have never heard of chopped steak! I've seen that on menus from Morton's and Peter Luger's to Bob Evans and Ponderosa. It's just a fancy hamburger served with au jus (or Peter Luger sauce - YUM!).

If you put mushroom gravy on it and serve it with mashed potatoes it's called Salisbury Steak and we've all had that. Yes, I know there's a Swanson TV Dinner version of that but a lot of very good diners and Roadfood type places serve it with pride (as did my mother).

Greyghost, you're right. A couple of years ago I had to go to dinner at one of Toronto's top steakhouses two days after having major dental surgery. Although it was not on the menu, I asked for and received an excellent chopped steak au jus with mashed potatoes and well cooked vegetables. (I bet it still cost the host an arm and a leg though).

As far as canned peas go, it seems to me that the further east you go in Canada, the more ubiquitous they become. I don't see them much here in Ontario but have been served them in homes and restaurants in the Maritimes and Newfoundland.


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RE: Who Serves The Best Hamburger Steak? - Sat, 05/17/08 7:33 PM
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I have traveled extensively in Newfoundland and Labrador and I have never encountered canned peas in gravy served over anything. I have stayed in bed and breakfast establishments, boarding houses, and private homes and never saw this so it is not something that is indigenous to that area.

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RE: Who Serves The Best Hamburger Steak? - Sat, 05/17/08 8:01 PM
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Originally posted by Trishkaidekaphobia

If you put mushroom gravy on it and serve it with mashed potatoes it's called Salisbury Steak and we've all had that.

Actually, Salisbury Steak (which is named after a British and American doctor named J. H. Salisbury, who recommended that his patients eat plenty of beef for their health) is ground beef mixed with bread, eggs, milk, and seasoning, shaped into patties and fried. Usually it is served with pan gravy, and while it is often served with a mushroom gravy, the gravy is not what makes it a Salisbury steak.

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RE: Who Serves The Best Hamburger Steak? - Sat, 05/17/08 9:02 PM
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Originally posted by djmsalem

Oliver, I think you see hot turkey sandwiches more often than chicken. I'm trying to think why that is...


I think Hot Turkey Sandwiches have their roots in Thanksgiving Leftovers. Since we don't have a holiday where we honor the Chicken, it has no anchor point.
Do some food word association:
Hot Dogs--4th of July, Ball Games
Brats--Picnics, Ball Games
Turkey--Thanksgiving
Ham--Easter
Kielbasi--Easter
Standing Rib Roast--Christmas
Chicken--?????????
Although we eat a lot of chicken, it doesn't have a universal anchor point.
Class Dismissed!

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RE: Who Serves The Best Hamburger Steak? - Sat, 05/17/08 11:00 PM
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OliverB, I apologize for Mr. Hoffmans performance. The majority of we Americans here at roadfood welcome and enjoy the international connection. Please hang around here. I live very near the Mexican border, have friends the other side of the rio, we come and go, enjoy our fellowship. We break bread together, excuse me, we break tortillas together.
A good hamburger steak is my favorite..........

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RE: Who Serves The Best Hamburger Steak? - Sun, 05/18/08 5:44 AM
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A half a pound of ground round. Hamburger steak is common im my parts of the woods also. I dont adore it, but its comfort food regardless.

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RE: Who Serves The Best Hamburger Steak? - Sun, 05/18/08 6:22 AM
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OliverB, I apologize for Mr. Hoffmans performance. The majority of we Americans here at roadfood welcome and enjoy the international connection. Please hang around here. I live very near the Mexican border, have friends the other side of the rio, we come and go, enjoy our fellowship. We break bread together, excuse me, we break tortillas together.
A good hamburger steak is my favorite..........



That's okay rouxdog, everyone's entitled to their tastes and opinions (some are just better than others!)

Thanks for the roadfood welcome, I'm surprised it took me so long to register here! Btw, all this talk of hamburger steak yesterday was too much for me... I went back to Magnan's on St-Patrick last night and ordered just that, with a small side of peppercorn sauce to pour over my mashed potatoes! Mmmm-mmmm! Too bad I didn't have my camera handy to win over Michael!

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RE: Who Serves The Best Hamburger Steak? - Sun, 05/18/08 7:03 AM
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OliverB....Growing up in the 50's my mom made a similar "salisbury Steak dinner,,,and I still make it. We add beef stock to the drippings,thicken it and add some Gravy Master for color. We serve it with mashed potatoes. The kids love the gravy on the potatoes. Often serve it with peas...I'm going to try adding some peas into the gravy...Sounds good. Nice thread!!!!

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RE: Who Serves The Best Hamburger Steak? - Sun, 05/18/08 8:21 AM
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Originally posted by Michael Hoffman

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Originally posted by OliverB


With fried onions, mushrooms and sweet canned peas floating in hot thick gravy?

That sounds really terrible.


LOL. Yes. Dump the peas; saute the onions.

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RE: Who Serves The Best Hamburger Steak? - Sun, 05/18/08 11:12 AM
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To clarify, I meant fried onions as in cooked in the frying pan... they are really sauteed.

http://startcooking.com/blog/131/Frying-Onions


What's everyone's objection to peas?? It's the perfect compliment to any meal of potatoes and gravy!

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RE: Who Serves The Best Hamburger Steak? - Sun, 05/18/08 11:40 AM
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Trish's comment on the "Chopped Beef Steak" is worth repeating. Many steakhouses offer a "Chopped" steak on their menu. Usually broiled or open-grilled the same way their "regular" steaks are (but lower in cost.) This is not a meatloaf/Salisbury Steak. The quality of the meat varies greatly between restaurants. The Good ones are indeed, coarse-ground steak. The lower-quality are hamburger, ground to the same consistency as the usual sandwich burger.
Some are served "smothered" with onions and gravy, but most I have ordered are treated as though they were the normal sirloin steak entree.

I haven't seen the 'peas in the gravy' for years. But , yes, I do recall that form of 'beef gravy' being used at some of the Newberry and Woolworth lunch counters (@ 1950's)

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RE: Who Serves The Best Hamburger Steak? - Sun, 05/18/08 12:09 PM
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Originally posted by OliverB


With fried onions, mushrooms and sweet canned peas floating in hot thick gravy?


That sounds like good, old-fashioned comfort food, OliverB. We often throw a handful of frozen peans into homestyle foods that have savory sauces.

This sounds like what you are writing about:

http://www.canadianliving.com/food/salisbury_steak_with_mushroom_gravy.php


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RE: Who Serves The Best Hamburger Steak? - Sun, 05/18/08 1:01 PM
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Yep, it's one of my favorite comfort meals!


In summary to those unfamiliar, it's basically a cross between a hamburger and meatloaf in concept... yet it's no steak to be sure!


The best diners will serve a large and tender ground beef patty (not the same flattened and dry texture as a regular hamburger) and simmered in brown gravy with large pieces of sauteed onion and mushrooms. As a die hard hamburger aficionado, this is surely the king of all burger meals! Add a side of fluffy white mashed potatoes with ladled peas and if you want to get fancy, even some boiled carrots, sweet parsnips, turnips, zucchini and squash!


Thanks again for the welcome!

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RE: Who Serves The Best Hamburger Steak? - Sun, 05/18/08 1:50 PM
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Originally posted by OliverB


With fried onions, mushrooms and sweet canned peas floating in hot thick gravy?


That sounds like good, old-fashioned comfort food, OliverB. We often throw a handful of frozen peans into homestyle foods that have savory sauces.

This sounds like what you are writing about:

http://www.canadianliving.com/food/salisbury_steak_with_mushroom_gravy.php


Welcome to Roadfood.com.


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RE: Who Serves The Best Hamburger Steak? - Mon, 05/19/08 2:21 PM
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I have traveled extensively in Newfoundland and Labrador and I have never encountered canned peas in gravy served over anything. I have stayed in bed and breakfast establishments, boarding houses, and private homes and never saw this so it is not something that is indigenous to that area.


I agree - I've usually had the canned peas served as a vegetable side dish, not in gravy over something. In addition, a good establishment that wants to stay in business will always cater to their customers' tastes. Kind of like Chinese food in America being geared to the American palate. Few NL locals will stay at a B&B etc.

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RE: Who Serves The Best Hamburger Steak? - Mon, 05/19/08 2:35 PM
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Oliver,

I make and enjoy this all the time!!!!

Although I always eat frozen peas rather then canned, I alway mix the whole mess together on my plate before eating.....kind of like a free form Shepards Pie.

I have to agree with Trish and Al...most steak houses or even diners here offer simliar fare so far as serving a chopped steak on the menu!

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RE: Who Serves The Best Hamburger Steak? - Mon, 05/19/08 3:13 PM
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Thanks for all the replies! To clarify, the peas would not be in or a part of the gravy, rather scattered about the plate and atop the meat, onions, mushrooms, vegies and potatoes with the gravy covering. It should all just swim around the plate. Frozen peas I imagine, could work just as well!

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RE: Who Serves The Best Hamburger Steak? - Mon, 05/19/08 3:53 PM
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Originally posted by Trishkaidekaphobia
Few NL locals will stay at a B&B etc.




Sorry but I do not understand this statement. Could you explain further?

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RE: Who Serves The Best Hamburger Steak? - Mon, 05/19/08 5:36 PM
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A quick search reveals dozens of recipes for hamburger steak. Hard to imagine someone not ever having heard of it. Call it hamburger steak, Salisbury steak, Shepherds Pie, whatever, it's one of my favorites.

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RE: Who Serves The Best Hamburger Steak? - Mon, 05/19/08 5:59 PM
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Haven't had this dish, what ever you call it, in years so I decided to give it a whirl. Here's the recipe?? I used. Somma Dis, Somma Dat:
INGREDIENTS:
1 can (14.5 ounce) can
Vegetable Broth
1 pound ground beef
2/3 cup dry bread crumbs
1 cup finely chopped onions
2 eggs
1/4 teaspoon salt
2-3 tablespoons ground black pepper
1/3 cup all-purpose flour
2 tablespoons ketchup
2 tablepoons Worcestershire sauce
1 teaspoon mustard powder
1 small can sliced mushrooms

DIRECTIONS:
1. In a large bowl, mix together 1/2 can of Veggie Broth with ground beef, onions, bread crumbs, egg, salt and black pepper. Mix well. Cover with plastic wrap directly on the meat and refrigerate for 3-4 hours.
2. When ready to cook, Shape meat into 4 oval patties.
3. In a large skillet over medium-high heat, add some olive oil and brown both sides of patties.
Remove Patties from the pan and pour off excess fat.
4. In a small bowl, blend flour and remaining broth until smooth. Mix in ketchup, Worcestershire sauce and mustard powder. Pour into skillet on medium temperature stirring until the gravy thickens.
5. Add Meat back to the skillet.Cover with some gravy, add Mushrooms, Cover, and cook for 20 minutes, stirring occasionally.

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RE: Who Serves The Best Hamburger Steak? - Tue, 05/20/08 8:00 PM
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Originally posted by Greymo

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Originally posted by Trishkaidekaphobia
Few NL locals will stay at a B&B etc.




Sorry but I do not understand this statement. Could you explain further?


Sorry Greymo, it's probably my Canadian English. I was trying to say that few local people from Newfoundland (Canadian postal abbreviation is NL) would stay at a Bed and Breakfast. If you're staying at a B&B on The Rock (or anywhere), you're most likely (though not necessarily) a visitor.

It's just my opinion and you're more than welcome to disagree if you have a mind to.


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RE: Who Serves The Best Hamburger Steak? - Tue, 05/20/08 8:24 PM
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Originally posted by Trishkaidekaphobia

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Originally posted by Greymo

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Originally posted by Trishkaidekaphobia
Few NL locals will stay at a B&B etc.




Sorry but I do not understand this statement. Could you explain further?


Sorry Greymo, it's probably my Canadian English. I was trying to say that few local people from Newfoundland (Canadian postal abbreviation is NL) would stay at a Bed and Breakfast. If you're staying at a B&B on The Rock (or anywhere), you're most likely (though not necessarily) a visitor.

It's just my opinion and you're more than welcome to disagree if you have a mind to.




OK, So let me see if I have this right. Few NL'ers would stay at a B&B in NL (Or is that anywhere?).However, if You ARE staying at a B&B "On the Rock"(I assume that's NL), Then you're probably a Non-NL'er, but not necessarily. You COULD be a NL'er!! So in all actuality, we really don't know for sure if NL'ers stay in NL B&B's or anywhere else in the World!-----------My head hurts, Time for a Molson's.----- I wonder if NL'ers drink Molson's??? HUM!

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RE: Who Serves The Best Hamburger Steak? - Wed, 05/21/08 2:03 PM
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Originally posted by Foodbme

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Originally posted by Trishkaidekaphobia

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Originally posted by Greymo

quote:
Originally posted by Trishkaidekaphobia
Few NL locals will stay at a B&B etc.




Sorry but I do not understand this statement. Could you explain further?


Sorry Greymo, it's probably my Canadian English. I was trying to say that few local people from Newfoundland (Canadian postal abbreviation is NL) would stay at a Bed and Breakfast. If you're staying at a B&B on The Rock (or anywhere), you're most likely (though not necessarily) a visitor.

It's just my opinion and you're more than welcome to disagree if you have a mind to.




OK, So let me see if I have this right. Few NL'ers would stay at a B&B in NL (Or is that anywhere?).However, if You ARE staying at a B&B "On the Rock"(I assume that's NL), Then you're probably a Non-NL'er, but not necessarily. You COULD be a NL'er!! So in all actuality, we really don't know for sure if NL'ers stay in NL B&B's or anywhere else in the World!-----------My head hurts, Time for a Molson's.----- I wonder if NL'ers drink Molson's??? HUM!


MOLSON'S???!!! Hell, after that, I need a Valium!

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RE: Who Serves The Best Hamburger Steak? - Wed, 05/21/08 2:22 PM
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Originally posted by John A

A quick search reveals dozens of recipes for hamburger steak. Hard to imagine someone not ever having heard of it. Call it hamburger steak, Salisbury steak, Shepherds Pie, whatever, it's one of my favorites.

I thought a Shephard's Pie was baked with Mashed Potatoes on top. Am I mistaken?

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RE: Who Serves The Best Hamburger Steak? - Wed, 05/21/08 2:26 PM
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Originally posted by John A

A quick search reveals dozens of recipes for hamburger steak. Hard to imagine someone not ever having heard of it. Call it hamburger steak, Salisbury steak, Shepherds Pie, whatever, it's one of my favorites.

I thought a Shephard's Pie was baked with Mashed Potatoes on top. Am I mistaken?


The Shepards Pie comment probably refers to my post, where I said "Kinda like a free form Shepard Pie".....I was saying that I like to mix my Hamburger steak with my mashers, peas, and gravy. Get it? A free form Shepards Pie.

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RE: Who Serves The Best Hamburger Steak? - Wed, 05/21/08 2:36 PM
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Originally posted by OliverB

What's the something else you'd have in mind?

Oh, dog food, perhaps. If, that is, you're not fond of the dog. I believe that calling a pile of ground meat a steak is as ridiculous as calling a pile of oyster shells seafood.


After reading some of your comments to OliverB, I lost some respect for you. I grew up here in the south and I remember my grandmother making hamburger steak twice a month. It only had gravy and onions, but we called it hamburger steak non the less. We were't poor, but we had to watch our money and it a way to feel like you had more than you might have.

For a person with so many posts and such a good rep up here, I am disappointed in how your gave a few elbow reaction comments to a newbie.

If this gets pulled or I get popped off for a few days, that will tell me alot too. I know some of you are up here all the time but there are better ways to introduce someone who is fairly new to this website to how good it can be.


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RE: Who Serves The Best Hamburger Steak? - Wed, 05/21/08 2:57 PM
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I just had hamburger steak last night, on the grill with cheese. I serve it up with a side of green beans mixed with a bit of cream, butter, starch, salt, pepper for a white sauce. I was half way through when Michael Hoffman stopped by; he was quite flustered that I hadn’t invited him over for another fine meal. It took about 2 Past Blue Ribbons and a shot of Wild Turkey to calm him.

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RE: Who Serves The Best Hamburger Steak? - Wed, 05/21/08 3:09 PM
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DAMN, I love PBR's. I should have mentioned those on the unmanly drink posting I made
We usually had white rice, green beans, and homemade biscuits when grandma made hamburger steak. It was also a staple on camping trips as she would cook outside the camper as it was so hot inside afterwards when she cooked. She did cook the biscuits in the oven though


I also like Schlitz in the can. I can usualyy find both for about $3 a six pack at my local Lowe's Foods.


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RE: Who Serves The Best Hamburger Steak? - Wed, 05/21/08 3:44 PM
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What's the something else you'd have in mind?

A hamburger steak should be just that... ground from chuck and grilled in a big scrubby frying pan over the burners with the sizzlin' meaty juices blending and soaking into the sloppy pile of onions and cooked mushrooms laid atop!

Toss it onto a plate with some fluffy white mashed potatoes and sweet canned peas ladled over large chunks of thick brown gravy and let it all blend into a dark soupy artery clogging mess!

It's the American way.


That doesn't sound very appealing, but I will say that hamburger steaks are just about my husband's favorite meal. We have them quite often.

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RE: Who Serves The Best Hamburger Steak? - Thu, 05/22/08 8:29 AM
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Originally posted by John A

A quick search reveals dozens of recipes for hamburger steak. Hard to imagine someone not ever having heard of it. Call it hamburger steak, Salisbury steak, Shepherds Pie, whatever, it's one of my favorites.

I thought a Shephard's Pie was baked with Mashed Potatoes on top. Am I mistaken?


Hi Bill, no you're not mistaken. Same ingredients served vertically instead of horizontally, tastes good either way. If there's corn on the side of either it gets mixed in as well.

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RE: Who Serves The Best Hamburger Steak? - Thu, 05/22/08 4:30 PM
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Since this thread is WAY off line - the best hamburger steak I've had was at Pilgreen's (The Steak King)in Atlanta - just the right amount of gravy with fries and onion rings and a salad. Next best was at Mary Ann's - a roadfood diner in Jasper, GA. You had to call ahead to have them make it or you'd sit for a long while as it was prepared. Both of the above were fresh and juicy and there are not too many steaks I'd trtade for either one of these.

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RE: Who Serves The Best Hamburger Steak? - Thu, 05/22/08 6:34 PM
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Originally posted by Michael Hoffman

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Originally posted by OliverB

What's the something else you'd have in mind?

Oh, dog food, perhaps. If, that is, you're not fond of the dog. I believe that calling a pile of ground meat a steak is as ridiculous as calling a pile of oyster shells seafood.


After reading some of your comments to OliverB, I lost some respect for you.
Dennis in Cary

Well, now, that just causes me no end of disappointment. I shall, however, do my very best to overcome this feeling of bereftness brought on by your loss of respect.

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RE: Who Serves The Best Hamburger Steak? - Thu, 05/22/08 9:51 PM
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Sorry, my point was you didn't have to be so hard on someone who was new to the group is all. If your only reply is with more sarcasim, so be it.


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RE: Who Serves The Best Hamburger Steak? - Thu, 05/22/08 10:16 PM
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Originally posted by OliverB


With fried onions, mushrooms and sweet canned peas floating in hot thick gravy?

That sounds really terrible.


Add mashed potatoes, and you have the meal I practically lived while living at the downtown Los Angeles YMCA. Where, as a young starving actor in 1958, I enjoyed that meal for only .99 cents.
The tiny restaurant in that YMCA served that meal every day. And, I loved it. Every day!

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RE: Who Serves The Best Hamburger Steak? - Thu, 05/22/08 11:21 PM
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My favorite place for Hamburger Steak is the Bar 7 restaurant and Saloon in Wickenburg, AZ. It is actually hand ground chuck steak cooked to your specification on a charcoal broiler, served with smashed potatoes(fake), grilled onions(real), homemade gravy, and the veg du jour. One of my all time favorite comfort meals!

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RE: Who Serves The Best Hamburger Steak? - Fri, 05/23/08 2:09 AM
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Haven't had this dish, what ever you call it, in years so I decided to give it a whirl. Here's the recipe?? I used. Somma Dis, Somma Dat:
INGREDIENTS:
1 can (14.5 ounce) can
Vegetable Broth
1 pound ground beef
2/3 cup dry bread crumbs
1 cup finely chopped onions
2 eggs
1/4 teaspoon salt
2-3 tablespoons ground black pepper
1/3 cup all-purpose flour
2 tablespoons ketchup
2 tablepoons Worcestershire sauce
1 teaspoon mustard powder
1 small can sliced mushrooms

DIRECTIONS:
1. In a large bowl, mix together 1/2 can of Veggie Broth with ground beef, onions, bread crumbs, egg, salt and black pepper. Mix well. Cover with plastic wrap directly on the meat and refrigerate for 3-4 hours.
2. When ready to cook, Shape meat into 4 oval patties.
3. In a large skillet over medium-high heat, add some olive oil and brown both sides of patties.
Remove Patties from the pan and pour off excess fat.
4. In a small bowl, blend flour and remaining broth until smooth. Mix in ketchup, Worcestershire sauce and mustard powder. Pour into skillet on medium temperature stirring until the gravy thickens.
5. Add Meat back to the skillet.Cover with some gravy, add Mushrooms, Cover, and cook for 20 minutes, stirring occasionally.

This is NOT Chopped Steak!!! This is Meatloaf on a grill!!!David O.

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RE: Who Serves The Best Hamburger Steak? - Fri, 05/23/08 3:50 AM
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Originally posted by boyardee65


Originally posted by Foodbme

Haven't had this dish, what ever you call it, in years so I decided to give it a whirl. Here's the recipe?? I used. Somma Dis, Somma Dat:
INGREDIENTS:
1 can (14.5 ounce) can
Vegetable Broth
1 pound ground beef
2/3 cup dry bread crumbs
1 cup finely chopped onions
2 eggs
1/4 teaspoon salt
2-3 tablespoons ground black pepper
1/3 cup all-purpose flour
2 tablespoons ketchup
2 tablepoons Worcestershire sauce
1 teaspoon mustard powder
1 small can sliced mushrooms

DIRECTIONS:
1. In a large bowl, mix together 1/2 can of Veggie Broth with ground beef, onions, bread crumbs, egg, salt and black pepper. Mix well. Cover with plastic wrap directly on the meat and refrigerate for 3-4 hours.
2. When ready to cook, Shape meat into 4 oval patties.
3. In a large skillet over medium-high heat, add some olive oil and brown both sides of patties.
Remove Patties from the pan and pour off excess fat.
4. In a small bowl, blend flour and remaining broth until smooth. Mix in ketchup, Worcestershire sauce and mustard powder. Pour into skillet on medium temperature stirring until the gravy thickens.
5. Add Meat back to the skillet.Cover with some gravy, add Mushrooms, Cover, and cook for 20 minutes, stirring occasionally.

This is NOT Chopped Steak!!! This is Meatloaf on a grill!!!David O.
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Whatever it is, It's pretty darn god. And it's cooked in a Skillet, not on a grill! Besides, If you cook it on a grill, the gravy tends to drip through, unless it's real thick gravy!

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RE: Who Serves The Best Hamburger Steak? - Sun, 05/25/08 10:24 AM
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Ha. Most of my creations are "Somma Dis, Somma Dat". LOL

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RE: Who Serves The Best Hamburger Steak? - Fri, 05/30/08 4:45 PM
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Ha. Most of my creations are "Somma Dis, Somma Dat". LOL



Same her Adj., I play around with leftovers or things that need to be cooked soon and come up with interesting ideas.


Dennis in Cary

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RE: Who Serves The Best Hamburger Steak? - Sun, 02/8/09 11:28 PM
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I agree with the hamburger steak with gravy,onions and mushrooms and the sweet peas over mashed taters with gravey,but please throw in a slice of cornbread and a glass of sweet tea.I guess that is the southerner coming out in me.Heaven on a plate.

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RE: Who Serves The Best Hamburger Steak? - Mon, 02/9/09 12:36 AM
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I hate to admit this, but the best chopped steak / hamburger steak I can remember having came from a chain, albeit a small regional one. It's a family steakhouse chain called Hoss's, and almost all of their several dozen locations are in western Pennsylvania. Several years ago I ate at the Hoss's near Oil City PA, and the chopped steak and baked potato that I had was just perfect. I was amazed! Chain restaurant food that can't be improved upon? In THIS universe?? Bizarre but true; I loved every bite of the meal. I was so impressed that I tracked down the manager and let him know how pleased I was. Has anyone else out there had any experience with Hoss's?

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RE: Who Serves The Best Hamburger Steak? - Mon, 02/9/09 12:53 AM
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Just looked at Hoss's website and discovered a couple of inaccuracies on my part. Hoss's restaurants are located all over PA, not just the western part. Also, my painfully flawed memory said Oil City, but it turns out that there isn't a Hoss's in OC, so.... hell, I don't have a clue where in PA it was. Gettin' old....

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RE: Who Serves The Best Hamburger Steak? - Mon, 02/9/09 3:06 AM
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Hamburger steak is a staple at plate lunch places, and food wagons/trucks in Hawaii...  A free formed ground beef patty, pan-fried, smothered in brown gravy and served with the always-present two scoops rice and mac salad...  If you want sauted onions and veggie, you have to ask....

In Hawaii, chop steak is an altogether different thing - - it is actual chopped or thin sliced steak, stirfried with peppers, onions, veggies (usually some bean sprouts are added) and the sauce that it is sauted with usually has a shoyu (soy sauce) base.....  Great with the two scoops rice!!!!!

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RE: Who Serves The Best Hamburger Steak? - Mon, 02/9/09 3:12 AM
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[id=quote font="arial, helvetica"]quote: Originally posted by OliverB


With fried onions, mushrooms and sweet canned peas floating in hot thick gravy?


That sounds really terrible.


 It's called a Chop Steak at Waffle House, it's covered with grilled onions. Order one tonight and let us know how it was!

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RE: Who Serves The Best Hamburger Steak? - Mon, 02/9/09 5:22 AM
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[id=quote font="arial, helvetica"]quote: Originally posted by OliverB


With fried onions, mushrooms and sweet canned peas floating in hot thick gravy?


That sounds really terrible.


 It's called a Chop Steak at Waffle House, it's covered with grilled onions. Order one tonight and let us know how it was!



 
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