Bobby Flay 's New Burger Restaurant on L.I.

Tony Bad

bill voss


has bobby ever been there while you were?

I don't believe so, but last time I was there two customers got into a fight because one odd guy felt someone sat too close to him and threatened to beat up a guy who seemed close to 80. The situation seemed oddly close to his whole "throwdown" thing.

Isnt that just a New York thing? ...Russ

Is this in a rough neighborhood or was it just the random odd guy who was there that day? 

Tony, we need to hook up for some good eats in the city!  Or I could hop on the LIRR on a Saturday to chow in your neck of the woods.

Actually this place is in a suburban shopping mall...which...depending on your views on shopping...may be a rough neighborhood. 

No, it is a nice clean place in a rather sterile and safe setting. This was just some random nut case. The way it works is you come in, order and pay, and then sit down with your number on the table. When your food is cooked, the servers look for the number and bring it over. On this particular day  the place was fairly crowded and this very large guy, who seemed to be in his 20's, was seated at a table for 6 and this elderly couple came in and sat at the unoccupied end of the table, somehow setting the guy off. There is a counter, which is where I would sit if I was a party of one, but I am guessing this guys girth would have prevented him from siting at the counter. 

Not sure if this is just a NY thing. We certainly have our share of hostile, confrontational wackos, but my travels have shown me we haven't got the market cornered just yet!  

billyboy


Is this in a rough neighborhood or was it just the random odd guy who was there that day? 

Tony, we need to hook up for some good eats in the city!  Or I could hop on the LIRR on a Saturday to chow in your neck of the woods.

I'd like to do that billy...have you tried this place yet?


http://www.mileendbrooklyn.com/

I haven't but I was reading about it in a local newspaper a few weeks ago and it's on my short list.  I've got a good friend I work with who is a native of Montreal so he definitely wants to check it out.

I'm wondering if there weren't any seats available in Penn Station so that guy jusy hopped a train to the Island.  Penn and Port Authority almost have crazy down to a science.  Especially at the "book-end" hours!

How about going to the Carnegie Deli?  What if I were to see if a few RFers wanted to meet up there?  One of a number of classic RF places I still haven't tried, despite walking by it dozens of times!

What are Montreal bagels? hmmmm.

bill voss


What are Montreal bagels? hmmmm.

The Montreal bagel, (sometimes beigel; Yiddish בײגל beygl, or sometimes in French "beguel"), is a distinctive variety of hand-made and wood-fired baked bagel. In contrast to the New York-style bagel,[1] the Montreal bagel is smaller, sweeter and denser, with a larger hole, and is always baked in a wood-fired oven. It contains malt, egg, and no salt and is boiled in honey-sweetened water before being baked in a wood-fired oven, whose irregular flames give it a dappled light-and-dark surface colour.
In many Montreal establishments bagels are still produced by hand and baked in wood-fired ovens, often in full view of the customers.[2] There are two predominant varieties: black-seed (poppyseed), or white-seed (sesame seed).
 
And on the 8th day God created The Internet!

I command Tony to put his order in for next Saturday

bill voss


What are Montreal bagels? hmmmm.

Bagels from Montreal of course.


Actually, to my uneducated palate, they seem little different than any other bagel with the exception they seem to be a bit sweeter.

bill voss


I command Tony to put his order in for next Saturday

Yeah, tough to get past that isn't it? I don't want to go someplace for a meal that runs out of food by 11am. This guy seems to be out kicking his overage on a regular basis. Not good. 

billyboy


I haven't but I was reading about it in a local newspaper a few weeks ago and it's on my short list.  I've got a good friend I work with who is a native of Montreal so he definitely wants to check it out.

I'm wondering if there weren't any seats available in Penn Station so that guy jusy hopped a train to the Island.  Penn and Port Authority almost have crazy down to a science.  Especially at the "book-end" hours!

How about going to the Carnegie Deli?  What if I were to see if a few RFers wanted to meet up there?  One of a number of classic RF places I still haven't tried, despite walking by it dozens of times!

You wouldn't have to twist my arm to hit the Carnegie Deli! Lets make a plan.

I like the twitter meat feed and the $.10 charge for no mustard on the ruth wilensky.
"the ruth wilensky 7
salami sandwich pressed on an onion roll {no mustard 10¢ extra}"

Tony Bad

bill voss


has bobby ever been there while you were?

I don't believe so, but last time I was there two customers got into a fight because one odd guy felt someone sat too close to him and threatened to beat up a guy who seemed close to 80. The situation seemed oddly close to his whole "throwdown" thing.

 


If you didn't stop me I could have taken the old buck!

Thanks for the posts of this "boring routine burger restaurant opening".  I didn't know Bobby was so contreversal.  In addition Bobby Flay's restaurants have a few problems with its employees . See attached thread.             Buddy
http://dnainfo.com/20100304/manhattan/iron-chef-bobby-flay-fork-over-800k-restaurant-workers
 

Buddy, I was also surprised by all the comments to this thread. I note in the first post to this thread that you mentioned that your sister-in-law found the burgers very tasty. That is in keeping with Bobby Flay's reputation. What made the item newsworthy was that he branched out into the price-conscious fast-casual restaurant category. With Kohl's selling a line of Bobby Flay cookware and kichenware, I guess some of the posters could be excused for automatically thinking this burger restaurant concept was just a licensing deal. I'm not sure about the deal at the Mohegan Sun casino, but the rest of his burger restaurants seem to be owned and operated by the restaurant company he is a partner in (the one who agreed to settle with the workers.)

This episode does raise a question though. When do we stop calling people like Bobby Flay, Wolfgang Puck, Emeril Lagasse, and Mario Batali Chefs and start calling them Executive Chefs or Restaurant Entrepreneurs? You probably will never again eat food that was personally cooked by them. While I would like to think that Bobby Flay and Wolfgang Puck personally develop all of the menu items served in their restaurants, I can't figure out where they get the time to do so, since they seem to be spending most of their time marketing their business ventures.
 
ADDENDUM: I just found out that Emeril Lagasse also opened a burger restaurant in November, 2009 at the Sands Casino and Resort Bethlehem, built on the site of the former Bethlehem Steel Company property in Bethlehem, PA. This is a full service, upscale restaurant. It is called "Burgers and More", abbreviated as BAM! (get it?) A 8 ounce Prime cheeseburger with one side costs $12; the "Create a Burger" with your choice of weeds and a side costs $14. IMHO, Bobby Flay's concept is quite reasonable in price.
 
WFMZ-TV of Allentown, PA has some stories and video of interviews with Emeril on their web site. Typical restaurant opening videos. You see Emeril preparing food in one of the videos, and carrying a tray of food to one of the patrons in another of the videos.

David I agree with you. If you want a hands on experience cooked by this celebrity executive chef its not going to happen. Not in  the Smithtown restaurant or any of the others.The most you could expect would be a celebrity or promotional appearance.
He seems to be very busy opening different concepts. I remembering see an accompaning article stating that GE Bank had extended a $5million line of credit to get this venture off the ground. This puts him in a category few independants can reach. I can also understand how his sucesses can irritate many hard working grill cooks and many others.  I did eat in his Bar Amercain and the only two memorables things that I remember was a very small portion of standing fries for $11 and a deep flavored delicious poblano pepper dipping sauce all small portions and all  ala carte.                                                                       Buddy                                                                                                                   
 
 
 
 
Enclosed thread with wikipedia listing of accomplishments
 
 
 
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Flay
 
 
 
 

A Bobby Flay's is also in Bergen Mall on Route 4 in Paramus, New Jersey (a mile or so east of Route 17 or the Garden State). Other than their questionable taste in not having an entrance inside the mall (which means that if the line is long and the weather is bad, you have to decide if you REALLY want to eat there).

The burgers are certainly good, not great (way above any fast food stuff, though). The burgers are cooked to order, are nice and thick, decent toppings. The sides are reasonably priced, but the milkshakes are rip-offs (luckily, I saw someone else's BEFORE I made the mistake of ordering one). The prices are not bad, not good. If you're at the Beregn Mall and the weather is nice, you could do worse. But I wouldn't make a trip there.

Wow well Bobby  is the man!!!!!!!  Hes got a georgeous wife also.. She used to be on law and order as a pa. Forgot her name.
He is so acomplished its not even funny.
Spud your an idiot lol.....
 
 

Just for the record, Flay's wife is Stephanie March from "Law & Order".
                                                                                  BUDDY

Buddy Dek


Just for the record, Flay's wife is Stephanie March from "Law & Order".
                                                                                 BUDDY

 
She's a Dallas girl. Her mom and stepdad live in San Angelo, Texas and are customers of mine. Never met her, though.

bartl


A Bobby Flay's is also in Bergen Mall on Route 4 in Paramus, New Jersey (a mile or so east of Route 17 or the Garden State). Other than their questionable taste in not having an entrance inside the mall (which means that if the line is long and the weather is bad, you have to decide if you REALLY want to eat there).

The burgers are certainly good, not great (way above any fast food stuff, though). The burgers are cooked to order, are nice and thick, decent toppings. The sides are reasonably priced, but the milkshakes are rip-offs

my sentiments, EXACTLY , about the BURGER, and the ripoff small SHAKE !!
I've been to the one outside the Monmouth Mall, West Long Branch/Eatontown, NJ ...
went there twice....
the peppers & onions helped add jazz up  the "Philly" burger...as I found their cooking methods very PLAIN,
just my own tastes, of course ...  )  ...but like you said, BART, it's still a good burger, just not a great one...
nothing remarkable...
 
and same premise at this mall, as it's also located way outside the whole parking lot from the mall..
(but, you can park near the restaurant door, with umbrella in hand, if need be..)