Your Favorite Discontinued Beer.

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efuery
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RE: Your Favorite Discontinued Beer. 2008/09/22 12:33:26
Calgary - not sure if it is discontinued but I haven't seen it around for a long time now.
Big Kahuna Kooks
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RE: Your Favorite Discontinued Beer. 2008/09/22 12:43:25
1. Primo from Hawaii. I understand it may have been brought back by Miller? Or perhaps it enjoyed a short lived ressurection.
2. Fallstaff, St. Louis
3. Van Merit...in college we bought it for .99/six pak
tmiles
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RE: Your Favorite Discontinued Beer. 2008/09/22 12:46:50
quote:
Originally posted by Michael Hoffman

Do they still advertise, "Have a Gansett"?

I have seen no ads, except point of sale ads in the store. Sorry for the late reply
Mosca
Filet Mignon
RE: Your Favorite Discontinued Beer. 2008/09/22 14:11:18
quote:
Originally posted by Tony Bad

quote:
Originally posted by Mosca

It's not as you say; Beer Advocate has IC Golden Lager as a "B", Sam Adams Boston Lager as a "B+". IIRC correctly, and I very well may not, the recipe for Sam Adams was derived from the recipe for IC Golden Lager.


That Beer Advocate rating for IC Golden Lager is based on one review!

Other reviews have been less generous.




Posting from work, I don't always check as deliberately as I should! I just saw the number and moved on. Still, I remember it as a good beer for its time (late 80s). When I moved to NE PA, I brought two cases with me.
Tony Bad
Fire Safety Admin
RE: Your Favorite Discontinued Beer. 2008/09/22 15:29:46
quote:
Originally posted by Mosca
Posting from work, I don't always check as deliberately as I should! I just saw the number and moved on. Still, I remember it as a good beer for its time (late 80s). When I moved to NE PA, I brought two cases with me.


I happen to like several IC's brew, and my friends in western PA always make fun of me for this!
David_NYC
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RE: Your Favorite Discontinued Beer. 2008/09/22 19:50:37
Narragansett is distributed by a marketing company in Rhode Island:
http://www.narragansettbeer.com
The Narragansett beer is now brewed by High Falls in Rochester, NY. Tastes a lot like Genny (a High Falls brand) to me.

Primo was resurrected by Pabst Brewing:
http://www.thatsprimo.com
ann peeples
Sirloin
RE: Your Favorite Discontinued Beer. 2008/09/22 19:59:57
Schlitz is back!!!My favorite Milwaukee beer back in the day-dont know who is making it, but it tastes the same to me!
David_NYC
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Your Favorite Discontinued Beer. 2008/09/22 20:55:37
Ann, if you are talking about the original formula Schlitz sold in bottles, Pabst is having it contract by Miller/Coors in Eden, NC. Reviews I have seen indicate Pabst got the taste right.
Phildelmar
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RE: Your Favorite Discontinued Beer. 2008/09/22 21:02:06
Hopefully, the same can be done for some other great old brands
Big Kahuna Kooks
Cheeseburger
RE: Your Favorite Discontinued Beer. 2008/09/23 08:51:48
David...thanks for the link. I guess its back full force in Hawaii. Hope it gets to the mainland. BKK
Sonny Funzio
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RE: Your Favorite Discontinued Beer. 2008/09/23 14:36:19
quote:
Originally posted by jesskidden



Anheuser-Busch imports Tiger Beer, but don't know where they distribute it. http://www.anheuser-busch.com/BeerVerified.html Page down half way or so to "Imports" (you'll have to go through their age check first)........

The strange thing about Hamm's is that it was a Pabst owned brand for a few decades, after Pabst bought Olympia. Then, when Stroh folded in 1999, Pabst and Miller divided up the Stroh-owned brands (which by then also included the many old Heileman labels). Pabst took the majority of them, Miller just a few - most notably Henry Weinhard and Mickey's Malt Liquor- AND confusingly, Miller also wound up with the Pabst-owned brand, Hamm's.

Never did read a explanation on why that was, save for maybe Miller (strong in the mid-West) wanted another "discount" brand (altho' there were a bunch of Heileman brands that would have fit, as well)? As you note, they do seem to be ignoring the brand, letting it slowly die, according even to this fan site:
http://www.hammsclub.com/LocateHamms.htm



jesskidden ...you are the David McCullough of brewery history!
Thanx so much for the tip on Tiger beer ... that was the one!
dews
Junior Burger
RE: Your Favorite Discontinued Beer. 2008/09/28 12:43:04
I have the luck to get Hamms at the local Hy-Vee in council bluffs ia still tastes great on hot days, reminds me of bailing hay on the farm back in mi. We would get the "thin beer " for hot days working outside
cavandre
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RE: Your Favorite Discontinued Beer. 2008/09/30 10:15:23
quote:
Originally posted by annpeeples

Schlitz is back!!!My favorite Milwaukee beer back in the day-dont know who is making it, but it tastes the same to me!

That brings me back to my college days in the NYC area! (When the legal drinking age was 18.)
My favorite was Schlitz on draft, for .25 a glass.

At that same time, Ballatine IPA was one of the few bottle-beers that McSorley's was selling. I think the only other one was Guiness.
californyguy
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RE: Your Favorite Discontinued Beer. 2008/09/30 10:45:20
Hey get your cold beer! Hey get your Ballantine

Even though its still made its not the real thing;though the old Newark brewery went out long before I was of drinking age , my grandfather was a driver for Ballantine.
A few times he brought the big truck down our street and I was able to get in ( much to the envy of the other kids)...he would then take me on some rounds, and at every tavern I was given a big soda drink and some snacks while the delivery took place- what good memories! Also I rememeber how Ballantine gave out turkeys to employees on Thanksgiving- good old time company...side note: later my grandfather ( who never drank)told me that employees at the brewery had beer breaks during the day and could drink as much as they could handle- sounds like such a happy place!
leethebard
Sirloin
RE: Your Favorite Discontinued Beer. 2008/09/30 10:57:13
So many of the old labels bought by new breweries don't remotely taste like what once was...it's almost a sin to give them an old distinguished brand!!
tfrielin
Cheeseburger
RE: Your Favorite Discontinued Beer. 2008/09/30 11:18:35

Burger Beer
Hudepohl (sp?)

Both Cincinnati beers.

Stroh's is that gone?
Olympia? A 1970s rival to Coors back in the day both were pearls of great price to anyone east of the Rockies
David_NYC
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RE: Your Favorite Discontinued Beer. 2008/09/30 15:15:57
Though Ballantine ALE is still produced, Ballantine LAGER BEER is not. I tried to find out a few years ago when production of the beer ceased, but could not fix the date. It was brewed in a few places after Newark closed down.

Stroh is currently one of Pabst's brands:
http://www.strohbeer.com
jesskidden
Cheeseburger
RE: Your Favorite Discontinued Beer. 2008/09/30 18:00:25
quote:
Originally posted by David_NYC

Though Ballantine ALE is still produced, Ballantine LAGER BEER is not. I tried to find out a few years ago when production of the beer ceased, but could not fix the date. It was brewed in a few places after Newark closed down.



Yeah, tho' Falstaff put some effort into Ballantine XXX Ale, they let the lager die a long, slow death. It quickly became an "economy" brand (unlike the ale) and was even brewed by Falstaff's "sister" breweries, General and, IIRC, Pearl, as well.

I'd guess it disappeared around the time that the last Falstaff brewery closed (Ft. Wayne- in 1990) and Pabst (by then also owned by S&P, the owner of Falstaff/General/Pearl) started brewing the Ballantine Ales (dropping the IPA when Pabst's Milwaukee brewery closed in '96). It is possible that Ballantine Beer continued to be brewed at the Pearl brewery in Texas or the Pabst Tumwater, WA brewery, but it was certainly long gone from it home market of New Jersey-NYC metro area by then.

David_NYC
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Your Favorite Discontinued Beer. 2008/10/01 22:17:27
quote:
Originally posted by leethebard

So many of the old labels bought by new breweries don't remotely taste like what once was...it's almost a sin to give them an old distinguished brand!!

Lee,
Since we are in the same general necks of the woods, were you referring to all those Northeast brands that all wound up being owned by Pabst, or others not sold around here?

In my early years, I saw the following breweries around here fold: Rheingold (Liebmann), Schaefer (Brooklyn, then Lehigh Valley), Pabst Newark, Schlitz Brooklyn, Rupert Yorkville, NYC (Knickerbocker), Ballantine Newark, Schmidt Philadelphia, Piels Brooklyn et. al. Consolidation brought a few new brands into town: Stroh (brewed at Schaefer Lehigh Valley), Mickey's, Haffenreffer, Colt 45, St. Ides, Falstaff, Old Milwaukee, Champale, Carling Black Label, Blatz (sporadically), Hamm's.

Presently, Pabst sells the following one-time massive sellers around here: Schlitz cans (not the resurrected good stuff), Piels, Schaefer, Pabst Blue Ribbon, Schmidt's. To my taste buds (and to Lee's, apparently,) none taste the same as when they were brewed in NY/NJ/PA.

Has anyone been able to document if and when the formulas of these beers were changed to reduce brewing costs?
jesskidden
Cheeseburger
RE: Your Favorite Discontinued Beer. 2008/10/02 08:25:03
quote:
Originally posted by David_NYC

quote:
Originally posted by leethebard




Has anyone been able to document if and when the formulas of these beers were changed to reduce brewing costs?


Perhaps the best article I've seen, with quotes from brewmasters, on the changes in recipe and techniques a brand has gone through as it bounced from brewery to brewery is this one about the Ballantine ales (XXX and IPA): The Late, Great Ballantine http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m3469/is_13_51/ai_63841298/pg_1?tag=artBody;col1

I think it's safe to assume that similar- probably worse - things happened to the original formulas of beers like Schaefer, Piels, Schmidt's, etc. (Indeed, the Schmidt's of Phila. brand was purchased by Heileman in the 1980's. Heileman had previously purchased the Schmidt Brewery of St. Paul, MN., and eventually "merged" the two brands [marketing region, labeling, etc], so it's safe to say one of the Schmidt(s) beers isn't original.)

I think ANY talk of "original formula" by most any brewery has to be taken with a grain of salt- well, grain of malted barley, maybe. Given that beer is brewed from agricultural products that vary greatly from year to year (starch content of barley, sugar content of adjuncts, bitterness levels of hops, new hop variations, etc.) for a brewery to make a consistent product from year to year (and, these sorts of beers certainly prize "consistency" over any concept of yearly "vintages"), they HAVE to adjust the recipe. Many of the "old line" breweries also tended to prefer to use the same yeast for all their beers (laziness? Fear of cross-contamination?) which probably also explains why many US porters and ales were bottom fermented in the pre-craft age. I doubt that Schaefer maintained Piels' yeast strain much less Miller uses the original strains for all those 30+ Pabst labels they brew today.

When a brewer says "original recipe", one has to assume the recipe looks something like this: "Mix a quantity of malted barley with water, cook a cereal grain or syrup. Mix together. Add hops or hop extract. Add yeast."

Take for instance Jim Koch's claim that his Boston Lager is brewed using his great-grandfather's pre-Prohibition recipe. In more forthcoming interviews, it's been freely admitted that the (in)famous "brewing consultant", Joseph Owades, had to "tweak" that recipe because of vast difference in barley yields and hop varieties today compared to a century ago (He also adding dry-hopping and krausening to the process).

Another example being Anheuser-Busch's recent admittance that the IBU's of Budweiser (long claimed to the same recipe as the 1870's) has been constantly sliding lower in the past few decades.

With beers like the vast Pabst collection, sold at discount rates, it's probably even worse as far as "authenticity" goes. Before they even got under the Pabst umbrella, they'd been "dumbed down" by the original and/or previous owners. The east coast beers, in particular, (especially the so-called "Bushwick Pilsners") were traditionally heavier than the Mid-Western "national brands" (Bud, Schlitz, Pabst) and as the latter "invaded" their region, and they lost market share to those "modern" beers, they often changed their recipes to a "lighter" version. Unfortunately, they often only lost their loyal customers, rather than win back any of the folks who'd abandoned them in the first place.



quote:
Originally posted by David_NYC

quote:
Originally posted by leethebard




Consolidation brought a few new brands into town:, Champale



Champale! Odd to see that one on the list. Actually, it was a somewhat local brand, originating in Trenton, NJ. (They also had a 'sister' brew called "Champ Ale", tho' I never saw it.) The brewery in Trenton (which over the years went by several names, and once brewed "Trent Ale") was owned by the Hertzberg's, father and son, who also owned the Old Dutch brewery in Brooklyn and the Metropolitan Brewing Company of Manhattan in the post-Pro era. Other famous brands of their's included Copenhagen Castle which survived into the 1970's (tho' it was rare even in NJ) and they were one of several US brewers who brewed and marketed "Black Horse Ale" (formerly a Canadian brand).
leethebard
Sirloin
RE: Your Favorite Discontinued Beer. 2008/10/02 08:57:16
Facinating reading,jesskidden...I guess we who remember fondly old beers should give up hope of our tastebuds being reunited with those tastes of yesteryear...
jonjax71
Cheeseburger
RE: Your Favorite Discontinued Beer. 2008/10/02 13:06:52
I used to really enjoy Pabst Blue Ribbon's premium brand, Andekker, so vastly superior to Michelob
leethebard
Sirloin
RE: Your Favorite Discontinued Beer. 2008/10/02 13:35:32
Wow...i had forgotten about Andekker...it was good!!!!
Sonny Funzio
Double Cheeseburger
RE: Your Favorite Discontinued Beer. 2008/10/02 13:38:34
quote:
Originally posted by californyguy

... my grandfather ( who never drank)told me that employees at the brewery had beer breaks during the day and could drink as much as they could handle- sounds like such a happy place!

definitely a happy place. I don't think theres a business anywhere where they allow drinking on the premesis anymore.
Heck, there's hardly even a bar anymore where you can actually say to the bartender "what can I buy ya?" and he/she will have a drink with you.

When I lived around Nashville for a bit in the 1970's, to make some extra cash I and a friend delivered the Nashville Banner newspaper. When we would go to the depot which was a double-wide trailer in downtown Nashville to pick up our load of papers, they always had a half barrel of beer on tap sitting out on the front porch in a little refrigerator with a tap sticking out of it. There was a shoebox next to it, a stack of cups, and a sign that said "25 cents per cup - honor system". I think the keg was usually Pearl Beer.
iceomat
Hamburger
RE: Your Favorite Discontinued Beer. 2008/10/05 04:10:41
Back in the mid-90's, Lone Star started brewing a bock beer to compete with Shiner Bock. It was less expensive than Shiner and I thought it had a better taste. They don't make it anymore.

Also, there was a small brewery in Austin at that time called Balcones Fault that made some very good beers, but it's gone now too.

Some others that I remember from my college days: Busch Draft, Coors Gold, and Brown Derby. They were all very cheap at the time (about 4 or 5 dollars a 12-pack). Brown Derby may still be around, but I haven't seen it here in Oklahoma for a long time.
David_NYC
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RE: Your Favorite Discontinued Beer. 2008/10/05 12:35:20
Coors Gold, now called Extra Gold Lager, is still sold in the NYC Metro area in 30 packs for about $13 at the discount beer distributors
jonjax71
Cheeseburger
RE: Your Favorite Discontinued Beer. 2008/10/06 12:09:46
Another fine beer usually only found on Puerto Rico as well as NY, Philly, Chicago and other cities with large Puerto Rican populations was Corona Beer which had nothing to do with the Mexican brand. Nowadays the former Corono beer brewery in Myaguez is being used by Bacardi to produce the former Cuban brand of beer, Hatuey which is better than when it was brewed in Bacardi's Bahamas brewery when it was first launched in the US
wmceaton
Cheeseburger
RE: Your Favorite Discontinued Beer. 2008/10/07 19:23:23
One beer that is still made but hard to find is Labatt 50 Ale. It is still brewed in Canada...but I am having a hard time finding it in the Boston area.
Earl of Sandwich
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RE: Your Favorite Discontinued Beer. 2008/10/10 23:52:34
I have not been able to find Stroh's for a very long time. If anyone knows if it is still made I'd certainly like to hear about it
David_NYC
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Your Favorite Discontinued Beer. 2008/10/11 13:08:55
Stroh's is now a Pabst brand, contract brewed by Miller et. al. You can find it in about half the NYC supermarkets, where it sits along with the other budget beers. It still is more "hoppy" than other Pabst zombie brands, but doesn't taste as good as the stuff I bought in Detroit back in the day. In recent years, I have seen it in CT, NY, NJ, PA, DE, MD, OH, MI, and WI.
There is a distributor locator on the Stroh's web site:
http://www.strohbeer.com/locator/
ken8038
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RE: Your Favorite Discontinued Beer. 2008/10/11 20:09:21
<<I don't think theres a business anywhere where they allow drinking on the premesis anymore.>>

I think the last may have been Straub Brewery in St. Mary's PA. One of the very few "old school" small local breweries (as opposed to Micro Breweries) left in the US. I seem to recall reading that the beer limit was reduced to 2 per day and then discontinued altogether maybe 10 years ago.

When I was there in the 80's, visitors could walk right in (i.e. no long boring tour) and help themselves to free beer in the tap room. That's probably not true any longer either.
Bigapetite
Hamburger
RE: Your Favorite Discontinued Beer. 2008/10/11 20:13:17
Not sure if it has been discontinued but I certainly haven't seen it in years.
Ringnes which was produced in Norway but I think bottled here.

Come to think of it, to all the people I have mentioned it to,it seems that no one even else even heard of it.
Anybody else remember this brew?
David_NYC
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Your Favorite Discontinued Beer. 2008/10/11 21:31:06
Ringnes was always carried by the old Sloan's supermarket chain in NYC. Someone over at Chowhound says the last US Fed label approval was in 2002. Apparently, no one is importing it into the USA at this time. It is still a huge seller in Norway.
David_NYC
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Your Favorite Discontinued Beer. 2008/10/11 21:37:01
quote:
Originally posted by ken8038

<<I don't think theres a business anywhere where they allow drinking on the premesis anymore.>>

I think the last may have been Straub Brewery in St. Mary's PA. One of the very few "old school" small local breweries (as opposed to Micro Breweries) left in the US. I seem to recall reading that the beer limit was reduced to 2 per day and then discontinued altogether maybe 10 years ago.

When I was there in the 80's, visitors could walk right in (i.e. no long boring tour) and help themselves to free beer in the tap room. That's probably not true any longer either.


According to the Straub website, the free beer is still available:
http://www.straubbeer.com/brewery.htm
The last time I was there was in 2006. I had them fill my trunk with all the beer they could get in. Then, I walked into the office to buy some mugs. On the way out, I started to pour beer, but got too much beer foam. One of the executives helped me pour the beer. There is no such thing as free; they ask you to clean your glass when you are finished.
jesskidden
Cheeseburger
RE: Your Favorite Discontinued Beer. 2008/10/12 07:32:57
quote:
Originally posted by Earl of Sandwich

I have not been able to find Stroh's for a very long time. If anyone knows if it is still made I'd certainly like to hear about it


As "David NYC" notes, Stroh's is still brewed, by Miller, marketed by Pabst and is still widely distributed. Certainly, one would think that Ohio would still be a major market for them, being next door to it's original Michigan home. I'd suspect that Miller's Ohio brewery is probably one of it's brewing sites. An "8" in the last digit of the Miller's two line date code (stamped on bottle necks or can bottoms) would be a beer from Trenton, Ohio.

One reason you might miss Stroh's is that at some point they switched to a predominantly blue colored label/can, from the classic red. Certainly doesn't look like Stroh's.

Also, the beer is no longer "fire brewed", coming from Miller plants, so be prepared to be disappointed. Stroh was very proud of it's "fire brewing" technique -which entailed heating the brewing kettle with gas flames rather than a heat-jacketed brew kettle. They claimed the "hot spots" created a bit of carmelization of the brew, giving the beer a unique taste.

When they first expanded beyond their home brewery in Detroit by buying the Schaefer brewery in eastern PA (now home to Boston Beer Co.'s Samuel Adams) they spent a lot of money and PR on converting that brewhouse to "fire brewing". Can't recall if they also did it to all they Schlitz breweries they bought a few years later, tho', so I'm not sure when the "fire brewing" stopped.
Big Kahuna Kooks
Cheeseburger
RE: Your Favorite Discontinued Beer. 2008/10/15 08:47:52
Is lowenbrau still around?
leethebard
Sirloin
RE: Your Favorite Discontinued Beer. 2008/10/15 09:06:56
In Germany!!!!
jesskidden
Cheeseburger
RE: Your Favorite Discontinued Beer. 2008/10/15 10:29:36
quote:
Originally posted by Big Kahuna Kooks

Is lowenbrau still around?


The German Lowenbrau brewery was purchased by their Munich neighbor, Spaten in 1997 (they also brew Franziskener). A few years later, Miller lost the contract to use the name "Lowenbrau", and Labatt picked it up in 1999, supplying a Canadian, contract-brewed version to the US market that was supposedly the "original recipe" (unlike Miller's adjunct brew).

The Labatt-brewed Lowenbrau only lasted a few years, and today the US market is supplied with German brewed Lowenbrau again. Since InBev bought Spaten-Lowenbrau in 2004, Lowenbrau is now imported by Anheuser-Busch's subsidiary, the Import Brands Alliance- along with the other big German import in the US, Beck's (also owned by InBev).

WarToad
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Your Favorite Discontinued Beer. 2008/10/15 11:03:07
I miss the hefeweizen from Stone City Brewery, Solon, IA. Nice nice Hefe. But mostly because it was a smalltown local brewery, for the locals, by a local. My hometown. Sadly, lasted only about 3 years. Microbrewery's turn over as fast as resturaunts.
Earl of Sandwich
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RE: Your Favorite Discontinued Beer. 2008/11/09 06:53:01
I haven't seen Stroh's in years...are they still around?
ScreamingChicken
Filet Mignon
RE: Your Favorite Discontinued Beer. 2008/11/10 10:54:53
Back in the mid '80s Walter Brewing of Eau Claire WI brewed "Eau Claire All Malt Beer" (I'm pretty sure that was the name) and it was excellent. Unfortunately there was a quality control slipup at the brewery, some bad batches went out, and the resultant negative word-of-mouth killed it.

Brad
David_NYC
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RE: Your Favorite Discontinued Beer. 2008/11/10 18:18:51
quote:
Originally posted by Earl of Sandwich

I haven't seen Stroh's in years...are they still around?
I posted some information on page 3 of this thread right under your question. Also, jesskidden posted detailed information about Stroh's on October 12th that appears here on page 4.
tfrielin
Cheeseburger
RE: Your Favorite Discontinued Beer. 2008/11/11 08:59:36
According to a presumably accurate Wikipedia entry, that 1970s favorite of mine (having a mystique similar to Coors for us east of the Rockies--it was very hard to get) Olympia beer at the end of its life (1896--2003) was owned by Miller who closed it down on July 1, 2003, claiming it too small a brewery to be profitable.

Apparently Clint Eastwood was a major Olympia fan, having featured it in "product placement" mode in several of his movies.

It was a good beer--crisp, not bitter, good flavor. I miss it.
jesskidden
Cheeseburger
RE: Your Favorite Discontinued Beer. 2008/11/11 12:47:25
quote:
Originally posted by tfrielin

According to a presumably accurate Wikipedia entry, that 1970s favorite of mine (having a mystique similar to Coors for us east of the Rockies--it was very hard to get) Olympia beer at the end of its life (1896--2003) was owned by Miller who closed it down on July 1, 2003, claiming it too small a brewery to be profitable.



Pabst bought the Olympia brand and their Tumwater, WA brewery back in the early 1980's. Olympia at the time had taken steps to become a national brewer by buying Hamm and Lone Star. Pabst would later sell the Tumwater brewery in 1999 to Miller as they proceeded to get out of the brewing industry- becoming what they themselves have termed a "virtual brewery"- by having all their brands contract brewed (mostly by Miller).

But Pabst still markets Olympia beer, tho', like most of their brands, it's probably only available in certain parts of the country. (Looks like Pabst recently changed their website and no longer lists all their brands and their distribution areas - that company's lack of sense is quite amazing.)
David_NYC
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RE: Your Favorite Discontinued Beer. 2008/11/11 13:43:16
quote:
Originally posted by jesskidden
But Pabst still markets Olympia beer, tho', like most of their brands, it's probably only available in certain parts of the country. (Looks like Pabst recently changed their website and no longer lists all their brands and their distribution areas - that company's lack of sense is quite amazing.)
Pabst must have taken umbrage at me calling them a brewer of zombie beer brands. So, they started buying a bunch of new URL's for a lot of individual brands, and seem to be adding more as time goes by. They redirected pabst.com to pabstblueribbon.com. Then, I found this:
"Effective November 1, 2008, the www.pabst.com address will no longer be the home of the Pabst Brewing Company corporate site. Access to Point-of-Sale, Repack, EFT/Invoicing, and Virtual Brewery Systems will be through the below link:"
http://www.pabstbrewingco.com/distributors

If you click on the "Our Portfolio" tab you get links to these new web sites, which seem to have distributor locators. These web sites also have those same bull****e addresses you see on the bottles and cans. It makes it look like a lot of independent breweries. Olympia has new a page up already:
http://www.olympia-beer.com/

They probably weren't even imbibing when they thought of this brilliant scheme.
Capybara91
Cheeseburger
RE: Your Favorite Discontinued Beer. 2008/11/11 13:52:47
And the brewery still sits vacant and decaying in Tumwater, WA. And the community of Olympia workers and the jobs are still gone. As our remaining auto makers sink toward bankruptcy, I hope we will re-think our business values because the ones we've clung to haven't been very valuable at all.
jesskidden
Cheeseburger
RE: Your Favorite Discontinued Beer. 2008/11/11 18:30:23
quote:
Originally posted by David_NYC

quote:
Originally posted by jesskidden
But Pabst still markets Olympia beer, tho', like most of their brands, it's probably only available in certain parts of the country. (Looks like Pabst recently changed their website and no longer lists all their brands and their distribution areas - that company's lack of sense is quite amazing.)
Pabst must have taken umbrage at me calling them a brewer of zombie beer brands.



You ain't the only one. I've been b*tching about the "S&P Corporation" (the former name of the parent company that took over Pabst in the '80's) since they started screwing with the Ballantine ales and closing Falstaff's breweries. (I did really like the short-lived Ballantine Brewers Gold Ale, circa 1980 tho'.)

quote:
Originally posted by David_NYC
quote:


. So, they started buying a bunch of new URL's for a lot of individual brands, and seem to be adding more as time goes by. They redirected pabst.com to pabstblueribbon.com. Then, I found this:
"Effective November 1, 2008, the www.pabst.com address will no longer be the home of the Pabst Brewing Company corporate site.



Yeah, I figured that's what they did, but a quick Google for "Pabst Brewing Company" didn't turn up anything that looked official for me. Their website's been something of a joke for the last few designs. They've often gotten Ballantine Ale and Ballantine Beer confused (that's the case now, again, I see) and for a time, about 2 versions ago, they misspelled "Schaefer" as "Schaeffer".

A quick look at some of the "History" section for the individual brands and it appears as if they've simply swiped most of the info from Wikipedia (which is notoriously incomplete and inaccurate for most every beer/brewery I've looked up).

For instance, for the Oly listing they actually get the (admittedly confused) 3 way deal between Olympia-Pabst-Heileman in the early '80's wrong and claim that Pabst bought Heileman in 1983(!).

"The Schmidt Family elected to sell to G. Heileman Brewing Company in 1982 and Heileman's was subsequently purchased by Pabst in 1983."

(It was actually the other way around, with Heileman buying Pabst, keeping a few breweries [Blitz-Winhard, Pabst, GA, etc] and a few brands [Henry Weinhard, Lone Star, etc] and, to keep ahead of the Anti-Trust Feds, spinning off a "new" weakened Pabst that was later bought by Kalmanovitz's S&P [at the time, General/Falstaff/Pearl].)

The "Ballantine Ale" History Page http://www.ballantineale.com/history/ seems to be pretty much an edited version of a copy/paste from the fine Ballantine Ale page on the Falstaff beer fan website http://www.falstaffbrewing.com/ballantine_ale.htm
David_NYC
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RE: Your Favorite Discontinued Beer. 2008/11/11 21:49:36
Wow, Pabst hired a klepto web design company. But I suspect the sad truth of the matter is that Pabst headquarters no longer themselves know the real history of their brands because of all the changes. Files get lost in transit or just outright stolen by disgruntled employees as work centers keep re-locating.
jesskidden
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RE: Your Favorite Discontinued Beer. 2008/11/12 09:09:03
quote:
Originally posted by David_NYC

Wow, Pabst hired a klepto web design company. But I suspect the sad truth of the matter is that Pabst headquarters no longer themselves know the real history of their brands because of all the changes. Files get lost in transit or just outright stolen by disgruntled employees as work centers keep re-locating.


I've always figured the Pabst sites were done by slacker-age interns who are "paid" with out-of-date 30 packs of Blue Ribbon.
ScreamingChicken
Filet Mignon
RE: Your Favorite Discontinued Beer. 2008/11/12 09:43:14
Back about 11-13 years ago I knew a guy who knew a guy who could get Ballantine Ale in 16-oz. cans for $5/case. Never knew how the connections worked and didn't think it wise to ask.

Brad
tusti
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RE: Your Favorite Discontinued Beer. 2008/11/30 11:55:31
Back in the 50s in St. Louis if it wasn't "Bud" it probably would have been Falstaff or Griesedeck Bros., both of which were spin-offs (I think) from the old Lemp Brewery.

Then at the bottom of the heap, there was 905 Beer. This stuff was truly skunk XXXX in a can. I was in the National Guard at the time and one of our first sergeants bought enough cases of this stuff to totally fill up the back of a duce and a half truck. The idea was that his troops wouldn't run out of beer during their summer camp stay up in Minn. He sold us the crap for 10 cents a can and I'm very sure he made a handsome profit for himself.
Grillmeister
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RE: Your Favorite Discontinued Beer. 2008/11/30 12:17:33

Don't forget the novelty "Billy Beer" during the Carter administration. Urban lore suggested that it tasted of peanuts.

Of course a steady diet of Lowenbrau and corn nuts kept us going for our late night college-age exploits!
Davydd
Sirloin
RE: Your Favorite Discontinued Beer. 2008/11/30 13:47:38
I drank a Billy Beer. I took one for the can collection. It did not taste like peanuts. It just tasted like cheap beer.
porkchopexpress
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RE: Your Favorite Discontinued Beer. 2008/12/25 08:14:27
I can remember sitting at the cincinnati reds games and drinking a Hudepohl.

post edited by porkchopexpress - 2008/12/25 08:15:46
Pogo
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RE: Your Favorite Discontinued Beer. 2008/12/25 16:51:20
I miss Pabst Blue Ribbon Bock. It used to come out each spring. Last one I had was in the 70's.
SeamusD
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RE: Your Favorite Discontinued Beer. 2009/01/02 13:43:31
David_NYC

Coors Gold, now called Extra Gold Lager, is still sold in the NYC Metro area in 30 packs for about $13 at the discount beer distributors


I really like that beer... I've only found it in a package store in Williamsport, PA, I pick a 30 pack or 2 up when I'm down there. I can't even find regular Coors here in central NY.
 
The only beer I remember drinking that seems to be gone is Red White and Blue... of course, I was underage the last time I had it (1986 or 87).
Phildelmar
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RE: Your Favorite Discontinued Beer. 2009/01/02 14:23:34
Gold seems to be still availablre in the Delmarva area as well.
kozel
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RE: Your Favorite Discontinued Beer. 2009/01/04 10:52:52
It's still made but no longer imported into the USA.  Prior to the brewery being bought out by SAB Miller in 2002, Geneva International in Illinois used to import the beer brewed by Velkopopovicky of the Czech Republic. Did I mention the name?  It's called Kozel of course!  


There used to be a beer called Kozel (John Kozel) that was brewed in Washington DC and unrelated to the Czech beer of today, but that's another story.


http://www.kozel.cz/en/homepage.html


post edited by kozel - 2009/01/04 11:13:39
Poverty Pete
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RE: Your Favorite Discontinued Beer. 2009/01/09 23:03:24
This one hasn't been discontinued, but last week at the Stone brewery in SoCal., I had a pint of oaked Arrogant Bastard.  I shoulda had two.
marzsit
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RE: Your Favorite Discontinued Beer. 2009/01/20 04:25:24
arrogant bastard is excellent stuff. we used to only find it in bottles, but there's a local pizza place that has it on tap now :)
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