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Benzee

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RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs Fri, 11/17/06 10:43 AM (permalink)
Hello all ,

Once again thank you John for these in depth reviews of all of the places you visited this summer .

Benzee
 
    John Fox

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    RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs Sun, 11/19/06 10:12 AM (permalink)
    Seventh outing, 6/25 Part 1

    25) JoJo's, Rt37 Toms River

    Our first Sunday trip, and what a trip! Nine different stops, beginning at 11:00 when the first place opened, and ending sometime around 9 PM. JoJo's is a small restaurant that serves primarily Italian Hot Dogs. Originally from Iselin, they moved to Toms River in the early 70's. I lived in Iselin while they were there, but never ate there. Today was the third time that I've been to their current location. They serve what can be considered an authentic Italian Hot Dog. Meaning that they use the circular pizza bread, Best's dogs, and fried peppers, onions, and potatoes. In fact, JoJo's may be the farthest point south where you can get a true Italian style hot dog. I know that Casino Tony Goes in Trenton calls their sandwich an Italian Hot Dog, but to me it isn't. I'll elaborate when I get to that trip.

    JoJo's wasn't particularly good. The dogs were tiny, 12 or maybe even 13 to a lb. They had casing, which I prefer on a regular dog, but not an Italian Hot Dog. It intereferes with the synergy between bread, meat, and vegetables. Does that make sense? Anyway, although the dogs were small, I requested only a single because I knew I was in for a lot of eating. The owner refused, and made me a double anyway. And included onions even though I requested that they be left out. From what I remember the potatoes and peppers were ok, the bread wasn't. They get the bread sent down from Calandras, which is one of Jersey's finest bakeries. But they don't make very good pizza bread. I've bought it from them once to use for my Italian Hot Dogs that I make at home. It fell apart then as it did today. Dickie Dees is a stone's throw away from Calandras and DiPaolas, but chooses to use the bread from DiPaolas. JoJo's is ok if you're from this area and crave an Italian Hot Dog. But it wasn't one of the better ones we've sampled this summer.

    26) Hot Dog Tommy's, Jackson St. Cape May.

    A small walkup stand in the beautiful town of Cape May. It seems that they do a good business as there was a fairly long line on a Sunday afternoon. Tommy's won a Coney for best personality. The guy was funny, spewing forth jokes and one liners the whole time we were there. Two different dogs were served. A five to a lb skinless all beef dog from Berks. This one was short and chubby rather than long and slim like the Syd's 5 to a lb. The other dog was a Berks skinless 10 to a lb beef and pork dog. Both dogs were steamed and then put on a roller grill. Not exactly my favorite way to prepare a dog. But the dogs came out better than I anticipated. The beef dog was solid, if unspectacular. An ordinary all beef dog. The beef/pork dog was tasty and above average. You can get these dogs with diced onions and pickles. There is a sign reading "Sorry, we do not have red onions or cooked onions. Dats North Jersey. So don't ask for them. We serve raw diced onions."

    27) Mauis Dog House, North Wildwood.

    I had heard of Mauis and intended to go for a long time, but never got around to it until now. Many people said that the dogs here are very good, and I had corresponded with the owner via e-mail previously. He wouldn't tell me the brand of dog used, but I was able to find out. Mauis has 2 locations. The one we visited on a main street near the boardwalk, and one on the boardwalk itself. Sort of similar to a Stewarts Root Beer stand in that you are served at a walkup area and eat at picninc benches. Mauis won the Coney for Most Creative Toppings. I voted for Amazing Hot Dog. But Mauis had a lot including salty balls (potatoes that were brined) extra spicey mustard, potatoes flavored with white wine and garlic, and excellent hand cut fries.

    At Mauis, you can get a regular dog or a veal dog. Both about 8 to a lb and prepared on a hot griddle. The veal dog was ok, but a little on the mild side. The regular dog was made of beef, pork, and veal in the German style. In a natural casing. To me, it tasted just like a Hoffmans dog from Syracuse, which I've bought at Wegmans. This is a good thing, as this dog is very good. Mild, but not bland. Originally, the owner claimed that the dogs were made on site. After I asked him where the sausage making equipment was, he told me that his brother makes the dogs at a nearby pork store. I saw an article taped to the wall of the building stating that the owner's family came from Syracuse. To me this was too much of a coincidence. I called Hoffman's and was told that Mauis has bought their products. So what you are eating are Hoffman's German style franks. A quality dog, and one of the better beef and pork dogs. Worth seeking out if you are in or near Wildwood.

    28) Windmill, Long Branch.

    We went to the original Windmill on Ocean Ave. There are other locations all around, most of which are in Monmouth County. One of the more well known hot dog joints in Jersey along with Max's, which we went to immediately after the Windmill. The dog here is a big quarter pound natural casing beef and pork dog made by Sabrett. The same recipe dog that is used at Callahan's and The Hot Grill, although at those places the dogs are deep fried. Here it is cooked on a griddle until the skin snaps. The Windill took 2nd place in the chili dog category. Unfortunately, I did not taste the chili. It was thick and beanless. The dog itself had a great snap to the casing. You can see the dogs on the griddle and I would advise picking out the one you want, which would be one of the more well done dogs. This dog is another fairly mild beef/pork dog that some consider to be bland. I think it has just enough flavor without considering it bland. The char and casing add to the experience. I had mine with mustard (Gulden's)and enjoyed it. Definitely one of the better grilled beef/pork dogs along with Max's, Galloping Hill Inn, Karl Ehmers, and Mauis.

    29) Max's, Long Branch

    Right down the street from the Windmill is Max's. Located a block from the Boardwalk, it was originally on the Boardwalk. After a fire, Max's moved to its current location. It is bigger than most hot dog places with a rectangular counter and tables. They serve beer as well. If you look around, you'll see dozens of pictures of celebrities who have eaten at Max's hanging on the walls. From Bruce Springsteen to Cardinal O'Connor. Max's is only open from sometime in March to September. But when they're open they sell a lot of dogs. From what I hear, they're in the top 3 along with the Galloping Hill Inn and the Hot Grill.

    The dog is expensive as is the dog at the Windmill. Both going for over $4.00, and more if you want chili. Max's serves a quarter pound Schickhaus frank. Made by Grote & Weigel of Connecticut for the Jersey market, these same dogs are available in many supermarkets including most Shop Rites. Although I was told that they are made from the same recipe as the Grote & Weigel griddle franks that you get at the Texas Weiner joints, I believe this may not be true. I like the Schickhaus dogs better. At Max's, they stay on the griddle a long time. Prepared perfectly, this is one fine dog. I prefer it by the slimmest of margins to the Windmill dog as did most of the panel. I didn't have the chili, but those who did said it was nothing special, while the Windmill's took 2nd place. The service and attitude of those working at Max's leave much to be desired. Right off the bat one of Mrs. Max's daughters or daughters in law starting complaining to Pete about the Ledger's lack of coverage of the place. A guy there was overheard by one of us as saying that he wished we didn't come by. We were given a hard time when we decided to get our dogs to go rather than waiting to be served at the counter. Despite all this, the dog is very good, but I won't go there unless I'm in the area and the Windmill is closed.
     
      mrkag

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      RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs Sun, 11/19/06 8:23 PM (permalink)
      We recently completed our 2nd hot dog run, throughout NJ after starting at Nathan's Original on Coney Island. Here are our choices. Mr Dee's in Parlin, NJ got a 7.3 average out of 10, the hot dog was very tasty a wide variety of toppings, the shredded cold cheese however was a minus. Big Daddy's in Little Falls, 8.3, Sabrett's dogs a +, a wide variety of specialty dogs, (try the Bum Burner) it is very spicy but not overpowering, the owner was very knowledgable about other hot dog places and recognized a hot dog tour and was very helpful.(also a frosty mug of Stewart's Rootbeer as a crowning touch). Hot Grill, Clifton, 4.8, one word OVERRATED.....don't believe the sign. Johnny & Hanges, Fairlawn,4.5, we had 5 guys on our tour, those who got the regular hot dogs were greatly disappointed, the 1/4 pound all beef however (all the way) were very good. Jimmy Buff's, S. Plainfield, 4.4, ambiance 1.2, the bread was very good, nuff said. Nathan's, Coney Island, 8.7, the service is excellent and extremely accomadating, the hot dog's with any toppings 1st rate. This is the barameter for all other hot dogs. They set the mark.
       
        mrkag

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        RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs Sun, 11/19/06 8:39 PM (permalink)
        Since we just became aware of this forum we'll also post our 2005 results. In order this is how we rated 6 different stops. 1) Nathan's Coney Island, need we say anything, see above post. 2) Callahan's on Rt 17, they have it all, excellent. 3) Hot Dog Johnny's on Rt 46, deep fried simplicity at it's finest, and don't pass on the white birch beer. 4) Al's Sabrett's Cart, Brooklyn, NY across from the hospital and golf course ( we're not sure of the exact address) We hit Al's a little early, hot dogs weren't completely ready, but they still tasted great. A man proud of his trade, the onion sauce (his own recipe) was 1st rate. 5) Rutt's Hut, Clifton, we had mixed reviews, but none of them were raving. I personally liked the relish. 6) Papaya Dog Manhattan, at .99 a hot dog they are overpriced.
         
          mrkag

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          RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs Sun, 11/19/06 8:54 PM (permalink)
          For all you hot dog afficianado's, PA has some good place's if your in the neighborhood. 1) Jimmy's in Easton, deep fried simplicity like Hot Dog Johnny's without the white birch beer. 2) Pott's Hot Dogs Nazareth, Bethlehem(original) and Northampton, worth a taste. 3) Willie Joe's Allentown, one of my personal favorites, the chili sauce has just the right tang. 4) Yocco's 5 locations, the Lehigh Valley's original hot dog stand. Worth going out of your way to try. 6) Fragnito's Bar Coplay, one of our favorites, they are big (on a Malone's roll) the cheese is melted over the top to keep it all together, trust me, try it, say hi to Diane at the bar. 7) Dad's Hot Dogs Allentown, a variety of specialty dogs, try it. Not one of the top places however. 8) Binney's Coplay, 6 different hotdogs, good dog, grill fried. These are not in any special order, just a list you might want to refer to if your in the area. If your grilling at home stop by the Farmer's Market in Allentown and try a J Hippie's, all beef, perfect for the grill.
           
            ScreenBear

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            RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs Sun, 11/19/06 8:55 PM (permalink)
            MRKAG,
            I agree with your take on Big Daddy's. Good preparation.

            About Jimmy Buffs, though. Did you mean Route #22, Scotch Plains, N.J., rather than South Plainfield?

            To the best of my knowledge, Jimmy Buffs has only 3 locations in N.J.: West Orange, Scotch Plains and East Hanover. The most recent closures were, North Arlington a while back, and most recently, Irvington.

            Probably a good trivia question would be: Name all the Jimmy Buffs locations over the years that are no more.
            I can't name them all, but I'd be interested to know the complete list.
            The Bear
             
              John Fox

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              RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs Tue, 11/21/06 8:38 PM (permalink)
              MRKAG,
              Welcome to Roadfood.

              I enjoyed reading about your hot dog tours, although I do disagree with some of your opinions. But that's what makes it all fun. I love hearing the opinions of others, especially when they are about places I've been to. How many people were on your tours? Did you have shirts made up for the occasion? Soemeone from the Dog Pound in Milford mentioned that they were visited by some people who were on a tour, but I guess it wasn't you since the Dog Pound wasn't named.

              Taste is personal and subjective, so who's to argue with what someone likes or doesn't like? That said, I will disagree with your rating of the Hot Grill. The dog itself is the same one used by Callahan's, but in a smaller size. It is a natural casing Sabrett beef and pork frank. Not that it matters, but the Hot Grill sells more hot dogs in Jersey than anyone else. Maybe you didn't like the distinct North Jersey chili sauce? Mr. Dees and Big Daddy's are ok, but I prefer a dog bigger than 12 to a lb. Hot Dog Johnny's does nothing for me. Bland and tasteless, although they are also very popular. It seems Rutt's Hut always has mixed opinions. I like this dog and also love the relish.

              I would also rate Nathan's as top dog out of those that you've listed. But I think Syd's in Springfield and Boulevard Drinks in Jersey City are even better. I think you would like them. Also Jerry's Famous in Elizabeth. The best dirty water dog I've had. And a great size. 8 to a lb rather than the 11 or 12 that many of the carts and trucks sell.

              Keep the reviews coming. Maybe you can join us Roadfooders on our annual hot dog tour.
               
                mrkag

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                RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs Thu, 11/23/06 5:05 AM (permalink)
                Hey John, thank you for the comments. We had syd's on our list but did not realize they had moved. They will be a part of our next run, however. We will also add Jerry's Famous. Please any other tips would be helpful, as we are not from the area. We do have plans to make a tour to western PA in the spring, and then to NJ again in the fall. P.S. Great site it has been very helpful, we will continue to use it now that we are aware of it. Our tour was five guys this time, several others have now inquired about joining our next ones. We are psyched. Thanks again all.
                 
                  John Fox

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                  RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs Sun, 11/26/06 9:38 AM (permalink)
                  Another place you might want to consider is the Galloping Hill Inn in Union. It's close to Syd's and Jerry's and very easy to get to. Exit 138 off the Garden State Parkway, make a right (regardless if you're coming from north or south) and it's less than a mile on your left hand side. One of the better hot dogs in Jersey, this place has always proved to be a popular spot on past tours.
                   
                    Benzee

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                    RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs Sun, 11/26/06 10:19 AM (permalink)
                    Hello all ,

                    I'm sure a few of us are up for a spring tour of western PA .
                    Also the 4th Annual Jersey Hot Dog Tour will most likely be in the Fall of 07 . We had 40 + on the last one , rented a motorcoach and John Fox picked out the establishments . Syds , Mannys , Rutts , Tommys and Jerrys among others .Check out the Misc. Forums for info and photos of the last Jersey Dog Tour .

                    PA here we come !!!

                    Benzee
                     
                      John Fox

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                      RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs Sun, 11/26/06 10:39 AM (permalink)
                      Seventh outing, 6/25 part 2.

                      30) Old Heidelburg, Keansburg Boardwalk.

                      A popular little place on the boardwalk serving hot dogs and beer. Most people grab a dog while walking the boardwalk, but there are a lot of tables for those who wish to sit. I had been here a few times in the past; last time a few years ago. The dogs served then were very good; all beef prepared on a griddle with a large amount of cooking oil on the surface. The people working here have always been very secretive about the brand used, but it is Haydu. For years made in Newark, but the plant closed down and they are made elsewhere; I think someone told me New York. And from what I hear, they're not as good as they used to be. When we went, the dogs were beef/pork rather than all beef. But still Haydu's. Let me say that out of all the dogs sampled this summer, most were at least ok. Meaning that they were good to eat, if not particularly standing out. We had many Sabrett dirty water dogs, most being indistinguishable from the rest. But all pretty good as Sabrett makes a quality dog. Others were better. And then there were those that were outstanding. Some were bland, but edible. Then there were 3 dogs that I would consider bad. Not bad in that they were spoiled, but bad as far as taste and/or preparation. The dogs at the Old Heidelberg were lousy. Definitely one of the three worst dogs I've had. I'd say there were 2 that I liked even less than these. The skinless dogs (about 8 to a lb) were extremely greasy, salty, and bland. Just a bad hot dog, and to this point, the worst that we've had. This opinon was shared by 7 out of 8 of us. One thought the dog was ok.

                      31) Tido's, New Brunswick

                      A fairly new place, Tido's has been open for about 2 years. Located fairly close to Rutgers. There are 3 dogs served here. A Sabrett all beef, a Hatfield beef and pork, and a turkey dog. All skinless, all boiled. I didn't sample the turkey dog. The Sabrett dog wasn't hot and had been in the water too long. Not a good dog. The Hatfield beef and pork dog, which is what they serve most of, and what you get if you come in and order a dog without specifying which one, has the distinction of being the worst hot dog I've ever eaten. It was so bad that I had to have another one just to be sure that it wasn't spoiled. I even went in the refrigerator and checked the date on the package, which was good. The only way I can describe this dog was too salty with a horrible spicing. Ironically, the fries were one of the best that we've had. So, the last 2 stops had 2 of the 3 worst dogs of the summer in my opinion as well as most on the S.W.A.T. Team.

                      32) Texas Weiner ll, Rt. 22 Greenbrook.

                      One of the oldest Texas Weiner joints in the state, Texas Weiner ll opened in 1924. Being located on busy rt 22, they serve a lot of hot dogs. Probably in the top 6. The dog is the standard Grote & Weigel griddle frank served at virtually all of the Central Jersey Texas Weiner joints that grill, rather than deep fry their dogs. And this dog tastes the same at all of these places. Only difference is the chili sauce used. And even this is very similar among the many places that serve this dog. When I'm in the mood for one of these dogs, I pick a place that is close to me and is less expensive, since in my opinion if you've had one, you've had them all. There is less variation in this type of dog than even the dirty water Sabrett's or the deep fried Thumann's.

                      I've been here many times over the years, but have stopped going because they were more expensive than the other places and the service has gotten worse. When we went, I noticed that the price of a dog went down from $3.50. I forget what they charge now, but it was under $3.00. The service was lousy. Not only did they get our orders wrong, but it took forever to get served. Most of the team didn't like this dog, but I thought it was ok, although I would rather go elsewhere because of the lousy service. The chili served at these type of Texas Weiner joints is thicker than the Paterson area deep fried or Hot Texas Weiner places. The chili here is typical of the type and not overly spicy. The dog could have spent more time on the griddle.

                      33) Texas Weiner l, Front St. Plainfield.

                      This is the original Plainfield Texas Weiner joint. I don't know when they opened, but it was shortly before Texas Weiner ll. Originally owned by the same family, both places now have different owners. Texas Weiner l is a very small diner with a griddle facing the street, and a small counter inside. Same Grote & Weigel dog, but this one spent a little more time on the griddle. Better service and a better atmosphere. The chili, while similar in taste and texture, was much spicier here. Too spicy for me, but I was in the minority. The team as a whole preferred Texas Weiner l to Texas Weiner ll. I liked the quick service at l, but the chili at ll.
                       
                        eggsactley

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                        RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs Tue, 11/28/06 6:44 PM (permalink)
                        Passing through Linden today I saw that a place called Manny's Texas Weiners has taken the spot formerly occupied by Father and Son. Can anyone tell me if it is worth a side trip off Rte 1 when I'm in the area? BTW in reference to the previous post by Mr. Fox Texas Weiner 1 moved from it's original Front/Somerset location some time ago and is now on Watchung Ave. just off the corner of Front St.
                         
                          John Fox

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                          RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs Wed, 11/29/06 6:02 AM (permalink)
                          Eggsactley,

                          If you like the Texas Weiners at Texas Weiner l, I would say it's definitely worth a side trip to Manny's. Same dog, same preparation, similar chili, although Manny's is slightly less spicy, but still spicier than most. I was unaware that Texas Weiner l moved. I always thought that their current location was the original.
                           
                            Big Dog Daddy

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                            RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs Fri, 12/1/06 3:52 PM (permalink)
                            Screenbear,
                            I know Jimmy personally and asked him about the locations:

                            #1- 14th Ave and 9th St. in Newark was their first
                            #2- 60 Washington St. West Orange
                            #3- Irvington (which is still open by the way)
                            #4- They had 2 downtown Newark 1 on Halsey St. and 1 next JJ Newbury's
                            #5- Valisburg
                            #6- Kenilworth which is owned by Charlies now
                            #7- Pinebrook on Rt. 46 which is now a Wendy's
                            #8- Caldwell on Bloomfield Ave. it is now a Budget rent a car
                            #9- Scotch Plains on Rt. 22 next to Bow Craft
                            #10-North Arlington
                            #11-Their newest location East Hanover on Rt.10 in the Best Buy shopping center.
                             
                              John Fox

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                              RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs Fri, 12/1/06 7:53 PM (permalink)
                              Jim,

                              Irvington is still open? That's news to me. Someone had mentioned that they were open past the date that they were supposed to close. I called, and the phone was disconnected. What happenned regarding the sale? I thought that it was supposed to have been bought by a pharmeceutical group?
                               
                                ScreenBear

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                                RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs Fri, 12/1/06 10:32 PM (permalink)
                                Big Dog,
                                Thanks for the list.
                                The Bear
                                 
                                  ken8038

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                                  RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs Sat, 12/2/06 9:42 AM (permalink)
                                  <<4) Al's Sabrett's Cart, Brooklyn, NY across from the hospital and golf course ( we're not sure of the exact address) We hit Al's a little early, hot dogs weren't completely ready, but they still tasted great. A man proud of his trade, the onion sauce (his own recipe) was 1st rate>>

                                  mrkag: Can you be a little more speciifc on where this cart is? I get to Brooklyn every few weeks and I'd like to try it out. What hospital? what golf course?, near the Belt Parkway? Stuff like that. The only hospital I can think of that's near a gold course is Dyker Park across from Victory Memorial. Thanks.
                                   
                                    jdell000

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                                    RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs Sat, 12/2/06 10:06 PM (permalink)
                                    Hear no mention of Louis Red Hots near Branch Brook Park in Belleville, NJ... Best hot onion dog around in my humble opinion!
                                     
                                      John Fox

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                                      RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs Sun, 12/3/06 12:28 PM (permalink)
                                      I took a ride over to the Irvington Jimmy Buff's around 11:30 this morning. It was closed, but everything looks the same and all of the equipment is in place. The hours listed were Mon thru Sat 10:30 to 6, closed Sunday. That's too bad, because I love to have an Italian Hot Dog on a Sunday night. But I'm glad that they are still open. Lately I've been making my own, but sometimes I crave one and don't feel like pulling out the deep fryer and cutting up potatoes and peppers. I have 3 Italian Hot Dog restaurants less than 4 miles from my house. Tommy's, which is a great dog, but it's a pain getting there with the traffic and lights. Plus a double is back up to about $7.50. Much too expensive. Then there is Charlies Famous. I refuse to ever set foot in there again until the current owner sells the place, which there have been rumors of. Then there is Jimmy Buff's, which makes an excellent dog and is close by. Glad they're still in business!
                                       
                                        MrDimn

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                                        RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs Tue, 12/5/06 7:27 PM (permalink)
                                        John -

                                        From your list of restaurants it looks like you covered most of NJ if not all of it!

                                        What is the best place for a dirty water natural casing all-beef Sabrett anywhere from Bloomfield to Edison?

                                        I've got a fix for some when I get into town... What do you recommend?

                                        During my last trip, I hit up Rutt's Hut... enjoyed some of those dogs... Tasty chili.

                                        Thanks,

                                        Doug

                                         
                                          John Fox

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                                          RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs Wed, 12/6/06 1:34 PM (permalink)
                                          MrDimn,

                                          I would suggest Dee's on Faitoute Ave. in Roselle Park. Easy to get to. Exit 137 on the Parkway, make a left; go a couple of lights down Westfield Ave. until you get to Faitoute Ave. and make a left. She is on the left hand side. A good, 10 to a lb natural casing Sabrett that is served hot enough and fresh. With a variety of toppings.
                                           
                                            MrDimn

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                                            RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs Wed, 12/6/06 4:09 PM (permalink)
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                                            Originally posted by John Fox

                                            MrDimn,

                                            I would suggest Dee's on Faitoute Ave. in Roselle Park. Easy to get to. Exit 137 on the Parkway, make a left; go a couple of lights down Westfield Ave. until you get to Faitoute Ave. and make a left. She is on the left hand side. A good, 10 to a lb natural casing Sabrett that is served hot enough and fresh. With a variety of toppings.


                                            Hi John -

                                            Thanks for the advice...

                                            I thought reading from some of your posts... you prefer the 8 to a lb. sized dog??

                                            But if you recommend Dee's... I will try her out!

                                            How did she rank on your overall ratings?

                                            Thanks!


                                             
                                              John Fox

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                                              RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs Thu, 12/7/06 6:07 AM (permalink)
                                              Mr. Dimn,

                                              I do prefer an 8 to a lb dog to a 10. But for some reason, the Sabrett 8's aren't packed as tightly as the 10's and can be mushy. No one I know of uses a Sabrett 8. Dee's did ok in the ratings, but did not make top 3. For the most part, I was pretty much in agreement with the voting of the panel, with the exception of the dirty water dog category. In my opinion, as well as the opinion of one of the other S.W.A.T. members, Jerry's 8 to a lb natural casing Best's dog was head and shoulders above the rest. But no one else voted for Jerry's. Two first place votes for Jerry's as opposed to 1 for Donnies Dogs, which was a decent, but skinless 10 to a lb Sabrett. The snap of a natural casing adds to the dog. Big Daddy's, which was voted 3rd place, was a good tasting natural casing Sabrett, but only 12 to a lb. Another coctail frank. And $1.70 to boot. Compare this to Dee's bigger dog which is under $1.50. I think the panel was swayed by the many hot sauces that were available at Big Daddy's. But if you're looking for a tasty, fresh Sabrett at a decent size with a good snap, go to Dee's. The 2 other places serving identical Sabrett's were in Brick and Red Bank, which may be out of your area. Joyce's in Brick and G&G's in Red Bank.
                                               
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                                                RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs Thu, 12/7/06 4:28 PM (permalink)
                                                Hey John -

                                                Thank you very much for the knowledgeable insight and suggestions. I do appreciate it! It's amazing how well you know the food, the quality, size, location and price of it all. It's just impressive.

                                                And I will be giving Dee's a chance when I get back to NJ in a couple of weeks!

                                                Thanks again!

                                                Doug
                                                 
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                                                  RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs Fri, 12/8/06 4:05 PM (permalink)
                                                  Hey John Fox,
                                                  You write great reviews of New Jersey hot dogs and I enjoy reading them in the paper.

                                                  You still haven't written one about my local favorite, Middlesex Texas Weiner.
                                                   
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                                                    RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs Fri, 12/8/06 6:15 PM (permalink)
                                                    Hi BoyDog,

                                                    Back on February 7, 2006, John Fox posted some of his thoughts about the Middlesex Texas Weiner, as well as about other Texas Weiners, in this thread:
                                                    http://www.roadfood.com/Forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10686
                                                     
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                                                      RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs Fri, 12/8/06 6:39 PM (permalink)
                                                      Thanks, David NYC, I hadn't seen that before.
                                                       
                                                        John Fox

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                                                        RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs Mon, 12/11/06 4:53 PM (permalink)
                                                        Eighth outing, 7/9

                                                        34) Stewart's, Lebanon

                                                        This particular Stewart's has a reputation of being one of the nicest, if not the nicest looking Stewart's in the state. It's located along a pretty section of rt 22 in the western part of the state. A lot of plants and shrubbery, and a mini picnic grove with benches make this a good place to enjoy a dog outside.

                                                        In the past, almost all Stewart's used a Haydu brand beef and pork dog. Some still do, but each individual Stewart's now decides what dog they will serve. The Rahway location uses a Thumann's griller that they deep fry. They used to grill it. Two other locations that we visited later on used the Haydu and deep fried it. This location in Lebanon uses a skinless Dietz and Watson all beef dog that they prepare on a roller grill. There is a foot long dog and a smaller size.

                                                        I've been here several times in the past, and found the dog to be just ok. The Dietz and Watson beef dog is the same dog that is called Black Bear in Shop Rites. But that dog has a natural casing, while these were skinless. The dog itself is of decent quality, with a good, but milder flavor than a Best, Sabrett, or Nathan's. This dog would have fared better if it had a natural casing and was prepared on a griddle or grill, rather than a roller grill. But it's still an ok dog usually. Today, it was unusually dry and tough. The chili is homemade and had a fresh, tomatoey flavor. I think the dogs we had might have been old. They're usually better.

                                                        35) Bridge Street Dog Pound, Bridge Street, Milford.

                                                        Located a block or so from a bridge leading into Pa., the Dog Pound is a relatively new place. It opened sometime earlier in the year. Or late in 05. Owned by 2 twenty something guys, one of whom kept bragging about the place on the Munchmobile forum, continually stating that his dogs were best in the state. I just wanted to see what this guy looked like, but he wasn't there on this day. His partner, a somewhat quiet and accomodating guy, was.

                                                        It's a very small place that was uncomfortably hot inside. Everyone ate outside, even though there is no outside seating. One of the girls working there was kind enough to bring out some chairs. The dog served was a 10 to a lb Berks skinless dog that was deep fried. Same exact dog and preparation as Toby's Cup, which, coincidentally, would be our next stop. The Dog Pound had a variety of topping choices. The River Rat, which had fried peppers, barbecue sauce, onions, and mustard, proved popular with the team. The chili was peppery and very finely ground; sort of like a puree. Not sure if I liked it or not. I ordered the basic dog, which I believe is called the Milford. It has yellow mustard, onions, and a pickle slice. I omitted the onions.

                                                        I liked the dog. Very similar to Toby's Cup. Out in West Jersey, they prefer milder dogs. And skinless. They come either steamed, deep fried, or on a roller grill. The brand is usually Kunzler, Hatfield, or Berks. Out of these, I like the Berks dog the best. And it's better deep fried. The major thing that I didn't like about the Dog Pound was that it took forever to be served. All told, we only ordered about 8 dogs. There was no line either. It took over 25 minutes for me to get one lousy dog. And it was unbearably hot inside. From what I remember, it wasn't a particularly hot day. If I want this type of dog; I'll stick to Toby's Cup.

                                                        36) Toby's Cup, Rt 22, Lopatcong

                                                        Toby's is a little shack located right on busy rt 22, right at the Lopatcong/Philipsburg border. There is a clown face on the outside of the building, with a battered flouorescent light inside, and a very low ceiling. Voted best hot dog hole-in-the-wall. Toby's deep fries a 10 to a lb skinless Berk's beef and pork dog. It comes West Jersey/ Pennsylvania style with yellow mustard, pickle slices, and onions. Fast service, in contrast to the Dog Pound. Toby's has been around since the 1940's and is very popular in the area. In my opinion, they serve the best dog in Western Jersey. I like to call it the White Castle of hot dogs. Small, delicious, and your car smells like it for days.

                                                        37) Jimmy's on the Delaware, Philipsburg

                                                        Jimmy's replaced Jim's Doggie Stand, which was in Philipsburg for over 30 years before moving to nearby Easton, Pa. Three dogs were offered here. A regular Berks beef and pork (10 to a lb, skinless) that was prepared on a roller grill. Average, not nearly as good as Toby's. A Hatfield angus beef dog that was deep fried. Eight to a lb with natural casing, this, in my opinion was the best of the bunch, although this particular dog is better grilled or dirty water style. Hatfield makes a very good beef dog, but a poor beef/pork dog. They also make a beef/pork/turkey dog that you can find in the supermarket. I wouldn't bother. The other dog available here is a 5 to a lb Berks beef and pork dog with a cheese and jalapeno interior. About a year ago the company sent me some of these dogs to sample. A very different, unique tasting dog. Good, but a little too spicy for me. I would definitely have one once in a while. The rest of the team liked this dog so much that it was voted best novelty dog. I can't remember how it was prepared.

                                                        38) Hot Dog Johnny's, Rt 46, Buttzville

                                                        This place is second to Rutt's Hut in terms of famous hot dog joints. From what I'm told, The Hot Grill, Galloping Hill Inn, and Max's, in this order, sell the most hot dogs. All are popular. But Rutt's and Hot Dog Johnny's are the most well known hot dog establishments in Jersey. Practically everyone in the state has been to or heard of these 2. A big part of the popularity of Hot Dog Johnny's is the beautiful location. It's in a picturesque setting with picnic tables overlooking the Pequest River. A great atmosphere at this old time roadside stand. In my opinion, the most overrated dog anywhere. It's not awful, just mediocre. I don't care how popular it is. McDonald's is popular, but there are much better burgers out there. As, I said, one reason for it's popularity is the atmosphere and location. Another is that generations of people grew up eating here and there is a lot of nostalgia associated with this place. Finally, people in this part of the state are used to milder dogs, bordering on blandness. Bland is the word that was most used by the panel in describing the dogs at Hot Dog Johnny's.

                                                        The dog itself is a small, skinless Schmalz brand dog that is deep fried in peanut oil and served with mustard, ketchup, onions, relish, and a pickle spear. I had mine with mustard and pickle. I've been to Johnny's several times. The first time I thought it was awful. I think that in part was because my expectations were too high. I had been back a few times and thought the dogs were better than I remember the first time, but still mediocre. Today, they were clearly not as good as Toby's, the Dog Pound, or Jimmy's, which are all on the mild side. But that's my opinion, and so many people swear by Hot Dog Johnny's. It is far and away not only the most popular hot dog joint out in West Jersey, but the most popular eatery of any kind. The Star Ledger did an article stating this fact about a year ago. I was quoted as a dissenter regarding the dogs at Johnny's.

                                                        On the plus side, service is fairly quick considering that there are usually long lines. And the dogs are under a buck. Toby's dogs are also under a buck. No one on the S.W.A.T. Team liked the dogs at Hot Dog Johnny's.

                                                        39) Davey's Dogs, Howard Blvd, Mt. Arlington.

                                                        Davey's looks like a Swiss Chalet with its A-Frame structure. A nice little place with a walk up window, or indoor seating. There are a few tables inside, which has a sort of homey log cabin feel to it. The dogs are 12 to a lb natural casing all beef Sabrett's. By now you know that I'm not crazy about the small size. Especially here when the dog is put on a bun that is too big. If you order a dog, but don't specify how you want it, you'll get it boiled. Other options are grilled and deep fried. But you have to ask. The chili is the packaged Castleberry brand, which I like, even if it's not homemade. It has a nice mild tomatoey flavor. Other than the dogs being too small and put on a too big roll, they are prepared well and taste fine. I've been here a few times and have had the chance to have them all 3 ways. A good stop in Morris County, which doesn't have too many hot dog establishments.

                                                        40) Dover Grill, Rt 46, Dover

                                                        This was the first time that I've been to the Dover Grill. Going by the name, I expected a North Jersey "Hot" Texas Weiner joint. A lot of these places have the term "Grill" in there, even though they deep fry the dogs. Not so here. They serve a natural casing 10 to a lb all beef Sabrett dog, which is prepared on a griddle. Excellent dog, done right. In fact one of the best grilled dogs of the summer. For an all beef grilled dog, I would put it behind Syd's and Boulevard Drinks. Easily as good or better than the New York places that serve this same dog. Namely Papaya King and Gray's Papaya.

                                                        They offer 2 types of chili here. One is called Texas Weiner chili. I don't remember the taste, but I do remember that I, as well as everyone else didn't like it. The other chili, just referred to as regular chili, not Texas Weiner, was better. I remember it as being tomatoey and very spicy. Pete called it tomatoey and slightly spicy. Admittedly, I have a low tolerance for spice. This chili was liked by the team and finished #3 in the chili dog category. It was Pete Genovese's favorite chili of the entire summer. The dog here was easily one of the best of the summer, and in my opinion, the best of the day.
                                                         
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                                                          RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs Tue, 12/12/06 8:36 AM (permalink)
                                                          I know that Holly checks this site occasionally, but is more often on Egullet.org. He is very busy and hasn't updated the hot dog section on his site since last March. From time to time I recommend some places for him to try, but it usually takes him awhile to get to them. I suggest that you send him an e-mail. He does travel often, and if his travels take him to Michigan, I'm sure he would love to check out some of the places that you've named.
                                                           
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                                                            RE: New Jersey Hot Dogs Fri, 12/15/06 9:29 PM (permalink)
                                                            John, thanks for the in-depth summary of trip #7. Even though I've been to all the places (except the one in Milford, which I have no inclination to go to after all his Munchmobile forum posts) I still enjoy hearing your opinion. I mostly agree. I probably like Hot Dog Johnny's a little more than you do, and I wasn't all that impressed with Toby's, but maybe I hit it on an off day. I agree that the Stewart's on Rt 22 is one of the nicest places to enjoy a dog in the whole state, but the quality seems to vary from visit to visit (The last time, about 3 months ago it was pretty bad).

                                                            PS: A few weeks ago there was an article in the NY Times about Barth's Meat Market in New Providence. So my wife and I did a food shopping trip up there last weekend to shop for a cookout. Our family of 4 universally disliked the Bratwurst. Way too course and "meaty" tasting. The German Franks in natural casing, on the other hand, were pretty good. You might want to take a quick run up there to try them, I'd be interested in what you think. --Ken
                                                             
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