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Irving's Deli (PASTRAMI !) more pics added 12-12 - Sun, 10/26/08 3:26 PM
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On Oct. 4th, 2008, I suggested to my sis that we stop here, as it was sort of on the way to Newark Aiport (I was flying off for my 2 week L.A./Vegas romp)...

It's modeled after Katz's deli in NYC
Here's my half PASTRAMI/half BRISKET sandwich

Anybody's mouth watering yet? I bet YOURS is, BAAH BEN !! Mine is, as it's been 3 weeks since I've had that sandwich! ( I'm in "pastrami withdrawal" mode now!)

IRVING'S DELI, Livingston, NJ... on Route 10, in Toys R Us center

There is also an Office Depot in that shopping center, 575 Route 10 E
973-994-5100; www.irvingsdeli.com ..(website is going thru renovation

Mapquest for directions; from the Garden State Parkway, one would take Exit 145 for Route 280 West; it's about 8 miles or so from there
in north Jersey , about 40 minutes west of NYC (traffic permitting)

Here's another view of my PASTRAMI/BRISKET combo; I spread out the pastrami meat a little nicer for you guys; thick, hand cut, a la Katz's.

Of course, we gave the counterman a few bucks to reward him for the little meat samples he was giving us .
The owners are Mark and his cousin, who grew up across the street from each other in Paramus, NJ. "Irving" is just folklore, there is really no Irving. Irving's has been open a year, and this is their first restaurant venture.... (KUDOS guys! Great job!)

Choice of ordering at the counter, or getting waiter service.
We did the counter thing, but still left a decent tip at the table, for whoever got stuck cleaning up all our mess!

Interior of IRVING'S DELI; we sat in the self service area


The owners seems to take a real liking to us, bringing us tons of samples to the table!!! (and these were NO sample sized, either!)

It was quite flattering, and almost embarrassing, cause we noticed the other tables nearby were barely getting anything.
This was not even everything! As they next came by with SWEET POTATO LATKES, and little "PIGS in BLANKET" hot dogs. (with a brand "made special for Irving's)

It was nice to see that IRVING'S supports local north Jersey businesses, as you can see from the BOYLAN'S SODA fountain.

Boylan's Soda, Moonachie, NJ.... first time I've ever seen it in soda fountain form... it's like the Dr. Brown's brand.

For starters, I had my camera out, so the owners may have wanted to make a good impression on us.
That's what I thought at first; but then I was asked "How can I reach you?", (I gave him my "e-mail" card) and he joked about looking for me in the AC Casinos.
I think they just geniunely liked us! Never got treated better!

And my SIS was VERY skeptical at first, as she is such a tough pastrami critic (like I am)
But from the moment we parked the car (and she saw other cars there, etc)to the moment she went "MMMMM" when she had the first gratis pastrami slice, up till the final moment when we left, she was totally convinced!
Irving's was the REAL THING!!!!

I was so glad to see sis enjoying her sandwich! That means even more to me than whether I enjoy mine!
And BTW, I loved the pastrami.
I liked the brisket; it was a tad dry in spots; good overall..

This was all at 3 pm. I flew out to L.A. right after this meal.
My plane landed at 9:30 pm...(it would have been 12:30 am EST)
I was still SO STUFFED!!!!!
I had to scrap my original plans of having some beef ribs from Baby Blues BBQ in Venice for a late night meal.

Irving's is a great place to go before a long airplane flight, or before a prison sentence! It's a great "final supper"!!





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RE: Irving's Deli (PASTRAMI !) more pics added 12-12 - Sun, 10/26/08 3:31 PM
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What are the tickets for?

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RE: Irving's Deli (PASTRAMI !) more pics added 12-12 - Sun, 10/26/08 3:40 PM
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What are the tickets for?

That's Katz's Deli style; something to the effect that one has to show the ticket to legally get out of the place...cause all the food orders are supposed to be marked off on it...
If I remember correctly, they gave us a regular check,anyway...

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RE: Irving's Deli (PASTRAMI !) more pics added 12-12 - Sun, 10/26/08 3:44 PM
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Hey Ellen, Welcome back!

Good luck to the guys from Irving's. Based on your report they should be around for many years. Nice pics, great looking(hand cut)pastrami. I will put them on my list.

Edit: The health salad looks really good.

5 Bucks says you get an email asking you out to Dinner.


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RE: Irving's Deli (PASTRAMI !) more pics added 12-12 - Sun, 10/26/08 3:48 PM
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I love good brisket that's been smoked or barbequed, but for some reason is really dislike the brisket in Jewish delicatessens -- and even the brisket my grandmother used to make.

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RE: Irving's Deli (PASTRAMI !) more pics added 12-12 - Sun, 10/26/08 3:54 PM
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ellen is that the 1/2 sandwich?
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RE: Irving's Deli (PASTRAMI !) more pics added 12-12 - Sun, 10/26/08 4:03 PM
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ellen is that the 1/2 sandwich?
britt

It's actually a full sandwich, but I had them make it with pastrami on one side, and brisket on the other...

My sis went for the "straight pastrami"
PASTRAMI SANDWICH (sorry, but I forgot the price)

I had taken paper menus out (with prices, etc) but seemed to have misplaced/lost them during my 2 week travels...


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RE: Irving's Deli (PASTRAMI !) more pics added 12-12 - Sun, 10/26/08 4:21 PM
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Ooohhhh! Ellen, I want your sandwich! It is so beautiful. As funny as it sounds, can't get a good deli sandwich here in Jerusalem.

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RE: Irving's Deli (PASTRAMI !) more pics added 12-12 - Sun, 10/26/08 4:25 PM
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Now Ellen,that's a sandwich...for two!!!!

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RE: Irving's Deli (PASTRAMI !) more pics added 12-12 - Sun, 10/26/08 4:27 PM
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Hey Ellen, Welcome back!

Good luck to the guys from Irving's. Based on your report they should be around for many years.

Hi Joerogo!
So nice to hear from you..!
I sure hope Irving's is around for awhile... you know how it goes with other factors, like changing demographics, or the lease rent escalating... (at least it's NOT in a real pretty shopping center, as that would cost even more for them $$$$$)
In those real nicely landscraped strip shopping centers, it's mostly only major chains like Panera Bread that can afford a spot.
Or Moe's , or Baja Fresh, etc...

ellen

p.s. No e-mail dinner offer yet... but it certainly felt flattering to be liked... (for whatever reasons, they really warmed up to me and sis)

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RE: Irving's Deli (PASTRAMI !) more pics added 12-12 - Sun, 10/26/08 4:45 PM
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I grew up in Livingston in the sixties- have not been there in about 20 years- I think that where Irvings is now there used to be old farms- most of the time i hate to learn of sprawl, but judging form those pics Irvings is worth it!

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RE: Irving's Deli (PASTRAMI !) more pics added 12-12 - Sun, 10/26/08 4:46 PM
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Nice review Ellen. Keep them coming!

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RE: Irving's Deli (PASTRAMI !) more pics added 12-12 - Sun, 10/26/08 4:49 PM
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Ellen - How much is the pastrami sandwich? It's a decent size..Not as big as the Carnegie. It looks like they've duplicated Katz's decor..The meat looks WONDERFUL! But, it looks like it's been machine sliced..Fine by me. Do you think there's enough customers to support the business? Was that a schmear of tuna salad? Chicken salad? Whitefish salad? I'm guessing chicken....Al the salads, salw, etc. looks terrific! Tough choice for me when I get up to NJ..Harold's or Irving's....

Michael - I don't like the Jewish brisket made with the sauce in the home. I grew up with that. But, I do like the brisket in the deli. They don't braise it. But, I also agree that the best brisket is found at a "Q" place...My favorite..Arthur Bryant's. All it needs if it's good and moist is maybe some salt..No sauce...nuthing...

Ellen..great pictures..This place looks very, very good! I hope they are successful.

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RE: Irving's Deli (PASTRAMI !) more pics added 12-12 - Sun, 10/26/08 11:04 PM
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Ellen, you've been missed. Can't wait to see all of the upcoming reports. Irvings looks like a real winner. And those photos are some of your best ever.

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RE: Irving's Deli (PASTRAMI !) more pics added 12-12 - Sun, 10/26/08 11:42 PM
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Great pics, Ellen. You're so good at what you do. I noticed a dish in one of your pictures that I used to know as, "health salad". Is it still called that nowadays?
I sure miss that refreshing and zingy salad I used to love as a young man living in NY.

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RE: Irving's Deli (PASTRAMI !) more pics added 12-12 - Mon, 10/27/08 12:39 AM
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Ellen, you've been missed. And those photos are some of your best ever.

So sweet to hear your comments, Howard!
And this is what I call hitting the Roadfood.com JACKPOT ! That's when 4 of my favorite Roadfood buddies post replies all in a row!
Rpalmer, Baah Ben, Signman and Twinwillow !

BAAH BEN: I believe those sandwiches were $12.95 apiece.
I seem to have lost their menus, and their website only goes to their front page for now; no menus listed. Sandwiches were a drop cheaper and smaller sized than the Carnegie and Harold's... (but yet still big enough, as I found myself getting too full to even finish it all)

That was tuna salad in the pic; a huge sample sized they brought over to our table, unsolicited.

TWINWILLOW: Sis and I still refer to it as health salad; I, for one, have'nt heard of any different names for it.
(it's nice some things still remain the same, huh?!?)

UPDATE ! I just found Irving's MENU !!
Looks like we paid $12.95 for the pastrami, and $14.95 for the 2 meat combo.... (even though the combo did not look any bigger...but like you once said, Baah Ben, we've got to pay the guy a little more cause he's gotta slice TWO different meats) (LOL)
So if both people want pastrami/brisket combos, they are better off ordering 1 pastrami, and 1 brisket, and splitting it up amongst themselves. (and pocketing the 4 bucks difference)

I love the fact that they don't get you for $6.95 for the MATZOH BALL soup, like too many places do!!
In all the hoopla, I forgot to try the soup! (next time!)(and the split pea sounds good, too)

p.s. It IS nice that they offer a "half sandwich on FULL bread" for $7.95.


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RE: Irving's Deli (PASTRAMI !) more pics added 12-12 - Mon, 10/27/08 9:32 AM
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Ooohhhh! Ellen, I want your sandwich! It is so beautiful. As funny as it sounds, can't get a good deli sandwich here in Jerusalem.

I believe it! Supposedly, Israel is known for great dairy breakfast spreads at the hotels, and good chicken......
but as far as the BEEF goes, not so good...

Welcome to Roadfood, JudgeMaven!


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RE: Irving's Deli (PASTRAMI !) more pics added 12-12 - Mon, 10/27/08 9:59 AM
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SWEET POTATO LATKES! *thud*

How can I be jealous at 7AM? That sandwich looks fabulous.

SLICED! Now that's brisket!

Ellen, your trips always make me jealous!

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RE: Irving's Deli (PASTRAMI !) more pics added 12-12 - Mon, 10/27/08 10:00 AM
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I forgot to mention the pickles. They look perfect.

Love your reports!

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RE: Irving's Deli (PASTRAMI !) more pics added 12-12 - Mon, 10/27/08 10:01 AM
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Nice report, Ellen, with good pictures of the interior of the restaurant to give the reader a feel for the ambiance.

I was looking at the sandwich photos, and it occurred to me that both sides were brisket. Pastrami'd brisket, and plain. One could add corned-beef brisket, and have a Jewish deli brisket triple-decker!

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RE: Irving's Deli (PASTRAMI !) more pics added 12-12 - Mon, 10/27/08 11:16 AM
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Such a deal............the soup and half a sandwich for 9.95

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RE: Irving's Deli (PASTRAMI !) more pics added 12-12 - Mon, 10/27/08 11:39 AM
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That's a nice looking sandwich!

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RE: Irving's Deli (PASTRAMI !) more pics added 12-12 - Mon, 10/27/08 11:43 AM
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Hey Ellen---great job! Will have to add to my to do list.
Is the health salad also called clear salad or am I thinking of something else?
Russ

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RE: Irving's Deli (PASTRAMI !) more pics added 12-12 - Mon, 10/27/08 11:52 AM
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Ellen, as always just loved your report as it brings me back to my younger years growing up in NJ, and later, nursing school days in NYC.

Just can't get that kind of deli meats or ambiance out here in CA. If I am missing something in the Sacramento area, someone will tell me, I am sure. A couple local (one is leaving) deli's try, but it's not the same.

How nice to enjoy your trips through your eyes and tastes buds. Now, I am hungry!

Thank you and know that you are appreciated.

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RE: Irving's Deli (PASTRAMI !) more pics added 12-12 - Mon, 10/27/08 3:01 PM
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thanks for the update,Ellen...bet those knishes are good!!!!

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RE: Irving's Deli (PASTRAMI !) more pics added 12-12 - Mon, 10/27/08 5:35 PM
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Welcome back Ellen, wondered where you've been? You can have the brisket; I'll take the pastrami and a couple of those pickles. As usual, another great report. See you this weekend.

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RE: Irving's Deli (PASTRAMI !) more pics added 12-12 - Mon, 10/27/08 6:31 PM
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Ellen, Let me apologize right up front for this post.

I am heading to North Plainfield tomorrow and I wanted to see how far I was from Irving's. Now whenever I hear the name Irving, there is only one thing I think of. I checked youtube, and guess what?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U077BiDMmPE

I will probably end up at Charlie's Pool Room tomorrow, but i will hit Irving's when I work in Chatham.

AHHHH, can't get it out of my head!!

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RE: Irving's Deli (PASTRAMI !) more pics added 12-12 - Mon, 10/27/08 7:21 PM
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Originally posted by joerogo

Ellen, Let me apologize right up front for this post.
Now whenever I hear the name Irving, there is only one thing I think of. I checked youtube, and guess what?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U077BiDMmPE
AHHHH, can't get it out of my head!!

No apology necessary! Cute video; not a happy ending though, huh?!?
Would you believe, that despite my roots, I'd never heard of this Irving ballad before! And judging from the comments, looks like it's been around since the 1960's perhaps?!?
LOL at the lyrics :"big, fat Irving! The 142nd fastest gun in the west"....

And it's pretty impressive that the Youtube poster got 16,000 views to that Irving video.

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RE: Irving's Deli (PASTRAMI !) more pics added 12-12 - Mon, 10/27/08 8:39 PM
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Originally posted by joerogo

Ellen, Let me apologize right up front for this post.

I am heading to North Plainfield tomorrow and I wanted to see how far I was from Irving's. Now whenever I hear the name Irving, there is only one thing I think of. I checked youtube, and guess what?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U077BiDMmPE

I will probably end up at Charlie's Pool Room tomorrow, but i will hit Irving's when I work in Chatham.

AHHHH, can't get it out of my head!!

J


oe if you are in North Plainfield tomorrow for lunch or breakfast check out nanny's kitchen and let me know what you think. Everything is homemade, she is very friendly and I would love to hear what others think of the place. Here is the information about it. Not sure if you'll see this before you head out there or not. But if you do check it out

http://local.yahoo.com/info-32672116-nanny-s-kitchen-north-plainfield?csz=North+Plainfield%2C+NJ


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RE: Irving's Deli (PASTRAMI !) more pics added 12-12 - Mon, 10/27/08 9:00 PM
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Originally posted by fattybomatty

quote:
Originally posted by joerogo

Ellen, Let me apologize right up front for this post.

I am heading to North Plainfield tomorrow and I wanted to see how far I was from Irving's. Now whenever I hear the name Irving, there is only one thing I think of. I checked youtube, and guess what?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U077BiDMmPE

I will probably end up at Charlie's Pool Room tomorrow, but i will hit Irving's when I work in Chatham.

AHHHH, can't get it out of my head!!

J


oe if you are in North Plainfield tomorrow for lunch or breakfast check out nanny's kitchen and let me know what you think. Everything is homemade, she is very friendly and I would love to hear what others think of the place. Here is the information about it. Not sure if you'll see this before you head out there or not. But if you do check it out

http://local.yahoo.com/info-32672116-nanny-s-kitchen-north-plainfield?csz=North+Plainfield%2C+NJ




Fatty, I'm working on North Street, and I tried Nanny's before. I would say they are some of the nicest people I ever met. I had an omelet that was super, large and delecious. My buddy had some funky pancake or waffle, very good.

I believe it was one of your past posts that sent me there. A belated Thank You.

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RE: Irving's Deli (PASTRAMI !) more pics added 12-12 - Tue, 10/28/08 7:33 AM
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You're welcome Joe and I'm glad you liked it. I will have to try to get some pics of the food there and put up my own little review. Just hard for me to get there with the limited hours.

Irving's does look good Ellen. Trying to eat a little healthier lately, but this is pretty damn tempting with the pics.

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RE: Irving's Deli (PASTRAMI !) more pics added 12-12 - Wed, 10/29/08 11:13 AM
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Hey Ellen---great job! Will have to add to my to do list.
Is the health salad also called clear salad or am I thinking of something else?
Russ


Russ, I have heard it refered to as claremont salad also.

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RE: Irving's Deli (PASTRAMI !) more pics added 12-12 - Wed, 10/29/08 2:00 PM
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Originally posted by joerogo

quote:
Originally posted by russ2304

Hey Ellen---great job! Will have to add to my to do list.
Is the health salad also called clear salad or am I thinking of something else?
Russ


Russ, I have heard it refered to as claremont salad also.


Bingo! Thanks Joe---"Clear" must have been a corruption of Claremont --chased down a few recipies and that is it.

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RE: Irving's Deli (PASTRAMI !) more pics added 12-12 - Wed, 10/29/08 5:04 PM
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Originally posted by russ2304

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Originally posted by joerogo

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Originally posted by russ2304

Hey Ellen---great job! Will have to add to my to do list.
Is the health salad also called clear salad or am I thinking of something else?
Russ


Russ, I have heard it refered to as claremont salad also.


Bingo! Thanks Joe---"Clear" must have been a corruption of Claremont --chased down a few recipies and that is it.


I make it at home. Most times for summer gatherings. Everyone calls it RogSlaw. Mainly because I always find a way to substitute mayo in any recipe.

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RE: Irving's Deli (PASTRAMI !) more pics added 12-12 - Wed, 10/29/08 11:22 PM
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Russ, I have heard it refered to as claremont salad also.

And guess what?!?
I just googled the origin of the name "Claremont Salad", cause I had a feeling it might've had something to do with the (RIP) Claremont Diner in north Jersey...
And sure enough, that's where the recipe came from.

My interest was perked, cause guess who used to OWN that diner "back in the day"?!? None other than HAROLD JAFFE, who currently owns HAROLD'S DELIS in Edison, and East Brunswick. The diner was also known for their mile high cakes, which Harold has kept up with at his delis...

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RE: Irving's Deli (PASTRAMI !) more pics added 12-12 - Thu, 10/30/08 2:06 AM
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Off trail, admitentently,but has anybody found any good deli in Northern Delaware? It's been a long drought

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RE: Irving's Deli (PASTRAMI !) more pics added 12-12 - Thu, 10/30/08 12:02 PM
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Originally posted by joerogo
Russ, I have heard it refered to as claremont salad also.

And guess what?!?
I just googled the origin of the name "Claremont Salad", cause I had a feeling it might've had something to do with the (RIP) Claremont Diner in north Jersey...
And sure enough, that's where the recipe came from.

My interest was perked, cause guess who used to OWN that diner "back in the day"?!? None other than HAROLD JAFFE, who currently owns HAROLD'S DELIS in Edison, and East Brunswick. The diner was also known for their mile high cakes, which Harold has kept up with at his delis...



Damn your good-----I thought I was good at research---my reason for interest in Claremont Salad was because my wife flipped for it when we went to Harold's,because of Roadfoodies recommendations---will make it for her over weekend.

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RE: Irving's Deli (PASTRAMI !) more pics added 12-12 - Fri, 10/31/08 3:12 PM
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Awesome report, Ellen.

That pastrami looks delicious!!

Here is the recipe for Claremont Salad from the Claremont Diner Verona NJ.


2 tablespoons sugar
3 tablespoons vinegar
2 tablespoons of salad oil
1 tablespoon of water
1 teaspoon of salt
1 cucumber (sliced)
1 carrot (sliced)
1 green pepper (sliced)
1 bermuda onion (sliced)
3/4 head of cabbage (shredded)


Shake the sugar, vinegar, salad oil, water, and salt together in a large jar and pour the mixture over the vegetables. Leave the vegetables and mix at room temperature for two (2) hours.

Put it in the refrigerator over night. Done, enjoy !!

You may substitute lettuce and tomato for the cabbage.


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RE: Irving's Deli (PASTRAMI !) more pics added 12-12 - Sat, 11/1/08 11:19 PM
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The Clairmont salad and Health salad refered to sure looks like the salad(along with a bowl of pickles) that was put on each table at Wolfies and Pumpernicks in Maimi Beach during with 50's,thru 80's. Those were the days for great deli's.

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RE: Irving's Deli (PASTRAMI !) more pics added 12-12 - Sun, 11/2/08 1:29 AM
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Long before there was a Claremont Diner in Verona, N.J., there was the Weequahic Diner on Elizabeth Avenue in Newark, N.J., also run by the Bauman Brothers, Morris and Leo.

If I’m not mistaken, the famous salad that would become known as the Claremont Salad originated at the Weequahic, and was then simply known as a “Diner Salad.”

It’s a great appetizer or side dish, and always went well with one of the three sandwiches I inevitably chose to eat…. always a difficult decision. The Chopped Liver, the Corned Beef or the Pastrami. Oh, what to do, what to do?

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RE: Irving's Deli (PASTRAMI !) more pics added 12-12 - Sun, 11/2/08 1:58 AM
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Screenbear - My ex-business partner redid the Clarement Diner for Harold. He and some backers brought it. That's when Harold moved up from his Orange Sandwich shop to the big time.

I remember the Clarement and the Weequahic Diner. The Baumans were legends in the diner business. Do you happen to recall how they use to have a person walking around replinishing your garlic bread. They had it in this square stainless steel box hanging from the person's shoulders..this was in the 50's. There would be lines out the door to get into the Clarement Diner.

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RE: Irving's Deli (PASTRAMI !) more pics added 12-12 - Sun, 11/2/08 9:01 AM
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Nope...don't remember the garlic bread/stainless steel box. But I do remember the almond horn pastry...a must for dessert. I'm not a cheesecake fan. But their's remains legendary. Not sure what year the Claremont opened.


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RE: Irving's Deli (PASTRAMI !) more pics added 12-12 - Sun, 11/2/08 9:35 AM
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Healthy foods..Looks to me that's just what Irving's is putting out there. For me, there's nothing better than a healthy sized pastrami sandwich

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RE: Irving's Deli (PASTRAMI !) more pics added 12-12 - Mon, 11/3/08 6:23 PM
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The pastrami looks awesome-reminds me of a place on 50th and Keefe in Milwaukee that is named Kramers.Wonderful pastrami.....Jakes for corned beef, but definately Kramers for pastrami.

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RE: Irving's Deli (PASTRAMI !) more pics added 12-12 - Sun, 12/7/08 5:49 PM
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Ellen, Keep up the good work. I really look forward to your posts. Happy holidays. Rusty

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RE: Irving's Deli (PASTRAMI !) more pics added 12-12 - Tue, 12/9/08 3:14 PM
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Happy Holidays to you, too , Rusty! Stay warm in Connecticut!!

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RE: Irving's Deli (PASTRAMI !) more pics added 12-12 - Tue, 12/9/08 3:21 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Baah Ben

Ellen - The meat looks WONDERFUL! But, it looks like it's been machine sliced..Fine by me.

I went back to Irving's on Nov. 17th for a return visit..
(I'll post a few pics ASAP)

Just wanted to iterate that the pastrami is DEFINITELY HAND SLICED.
(right in front of your eyes, a la Katz's style)
I watched his knife-work!

RETURN VISIT to HAROLD'S, Nov. 17th, 2008

I started with the 1/2 BRISKET sandwich (served on FULL bread) and soup combo, "such a deal" for $7.95

The matzoh ball soup was just "okay"; did not WOW me; next time I'll go for the split pea.

There's ED at the counter; he says he "runs the dining room".
He's got the long blonde hair and ponytail, in his 50's ,I guess

And said he used to work at Don's in Livingston, back in the day.
They had great charbroiled burgers there, (long gone, though)
ED'S mom works the cash register at Irvings.
And then Ed said "see that guy. He used to work at Tabachnick's".
Looks like they have room at Irvings for all the former deli guys !!!

I love the way the BRISKET JUICES SOAK right thru the BREAD!

I also ordered a PASTRAMI sandwich, but to take out, as I was stuffed

I did test some of out first, though.

I also took out a package of these "made special for Irving's" hot dogs.They were GREAT! Nice beefy taste, with a natural casing..

My aunt and uncle visited me from Delray Beach, FL for 5 days shortly after I went to Irving's.
I served them these hot dogs , and they loved them so much that they requested them again the next day!!


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RE: Irving's Deli (PASTRAMI !) more pics added 12-12 - Wed, 12/10/08 5:30 AM
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Ellen4641: I crown you.... Miss Pastrami 2008!!

CCinNJ: Thanks for the Claremont/Health salad recipe! Looks like a good accompaniment to a mile-high pastrami sandwich.

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RE: Irving's Deli (PASTRAMI !) more pics added 12-12 - Mon, 04/13/09 8:12 PM
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I thought I'd bring back this thread, because I finally got to Irving's today for lunch.

My daughter was with me, we both had pastrami sandwiches and as Ellen said, they were terrific! Very very tender, melt in your mouth tender. Among the best I ever had. For what it's worth, my favorite ever was Pastrami King, during the time they were in Manhattan, I've never been to the "new" location on Long Island. This was close, maybe just a little less flavor, but definately the best I've ever had in New Jersey.

For good measure we split a hot dog (it's about a foot long) which had a real good beefy Deli taste. The only disappointment was the sauerkraut, it did not have much flavor at all, it definately needed more curing, or something.
 
Oh, also, it was great to have the big selection of Boylan sodas on tap. I've seen the root beer occasionally at other places, but Irving's had at least 6 different varieties on tap, including diet white birch and diet black cherry. With Free Refills!

I'm a little worried about how they are doing though, we were there at about Noon and we were the only customers. OK, it was a Monday, but still...

And the shopping center is virtually deserted, most of the other storefronts are vacant.

Anyway, thanks again to Ellen for being the pioneer at Irving's, it's definately worth a stop.
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RE: Irving's Deli (PASTRAMI !) more pics added 12-12 - Tue, 04/14/09 1:16 AM
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Hi Ken!!
So glad you made it to Irving's, and enjoyed succulent pastrami with your daughter!
Remember, Ken, it IS still the 8 day Passover holiday, which could contribute to the deli being slow...
plus the fact that today was the day after Easter, when many are recuperating from big feasts..
 
I don't celebrate Easter in the religious sense, but I did have a real good prime rib buffet at the Flanders Hotel in Ocean City (NJ)  ......
so even I pigged out for Easter..
 
With all that being said, though... ........I am a bit concerned, too, about the fate of these last old school type Jewish style deli's...

I will give you an update on the Pastrami King!!!
(which became the Pastrami Queen when it moved from Queens, to Lexington Ave in manhattan....  )
I imagine that is the same one you are thinking of, Ken?
the owners sold it, and opened a Pastrami Queen in Boca Raton, FL about 6 months ago!
I went there last month, and it has excellent
 homemade pastrami!!!!
(small 7 ounce sandwich though , $9.95; I recommend  paying $2.00 more for the extra meat)

The NYC Pastrami Queen is still open, just different owners..
(and I was wondering why it did'nt taste as good to me when I was there last year!)
the previous owners had sold it, and moved to Florida...
after taking a short hiatus, they thankfully decided to resurrect the Pastrami Queen again!

YES, I too loved those beefy hot dogs at IRVING'S.
I even brought home a package of them...
my aunt and uncle were visiting me from Florida at the time, and it made a great dinner for us a few days later....   (they have'nt had the pleasure of going to Irving's yet)
 
There IS a Toys R Us in that Irving's deli shopping center...
and an Office Depot..
but both those stores don't seem like they would be conducive to feeding over into the Deli operation..

when I was there, they did have some nearby office workers pop into Irving's.

Once again, I think today (the day after Easter) was a real OFF day all around for restaurants.  ..... plus many of us are still scrambling to finish our taxes...!


 
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RE: Irving's Deli (PASTRAMI !) more pics added 12-12 - Tue, 04/14/09 6:38 AM
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I was to Irving's a couple of weeks ago and enjoyed a pastrami reuben.

About the hot dogs. The first time there I saw a package that was labelled Sabrett. I was told that the dogs were made special for Irving's by Sabrett and that they were just waiting for the new labels which they've gotten by now. I've gone into detail in the past about how Sabrett makes only one recipe for beef dogs and one for beef/pork dogs. Although they come in different sizes and with or without a casing, all of the places (Katz's, Papaya King, Gray's Papaya, etc.) that serve a beef dog from Marathon (the parent company of Sabrett) are using the same recipe frank despite claiming it is a special recipe.

Customers have been told about a special recipe frank numerous times by people who own/work at places in attempt to have you believe you are getting something that you can't get anywhere else. I don't like being misled. I am 100% positive that no place gets a special recipe frank from Sabrett. This has been confirmed to me by a couple of Sabrett distributors (who I did not believe years ago), someone whose father delivered franks to places in New York, and the person actually in charge of private label at Marathon.

When I brought this up at Irving's, Marc was adamant in claiming that the franks were made special for them. He mentioned that maybe the policy changed and even offered to take me to the plant when the next batch of hot dogs were being made for them. He was so convincing that I almost believed him. I said that I would love to go with him to the plant and see for myself. He never contacted me to go. Afterwards I spoke to my contact at Marathon who laughed and said that they still don't make special recipes for their customers and that Irving's gets the same recipe beef dogs that everyone else does. Only difference is that they now make a long 5 to a lb dog (similar to the old Syd's dog) that they didn't make previously.

Amazing Hot Dog used a shorter fatter 4 to a lb dog from Sabrett. For some reason, even though they are the same recipe, the bigger sized Sabretts don't seem as spicy as the smaller ones you get at Papaya King, Gray's, Katz's, or Boulevard Drinks. But be sure that they ARE the same recipe despite what Marc or anyone tells you.

Also be aware that you can get these dogs at any Sabrett distributor (without the special label) much cheaper. This also goes for the beef/pork dog served at the Windmill and Hot Grill. You can get the smaller 10's (Served at Papaya King and Gray's) real cheap at Restaurant Depot. This is where many hot dog establishments get theirs.

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RE: Irving's Deli (PASTRAMI !) more pics added 12-12 - Tue, 04/14/09 9:51 AM
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<<I will give you an update on the Pastrami King!!!
(which became the Pastrami Queen when it moved from Queens, to Lexington Ave in manhattan....  )
I imagine that is the same one you are thinking of, Ken? >>

I think so, but I could have sworn it was still called Pastrami King for a while when it was in Manhattan.

I didn't even think of the Passover/Easter situation. Although I am of the "Easter" persuasion, we didn't have a big feast a/c our families being pretty well scattered around this year. Hopefully you are right and that is the reason it was so slow.

But, the Office Depot you mentioned is closed, and it does look deserted in that shopping center.
 
John, thanks for the insight on the dogs. I'm sure what we had was the 5 to a lb. dog. It did taste "beefier" than what I would expect an all beef hot dog from Sabrett would taste, but maybe that was just due to the larger size.

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RE: Irving's Deli (PASTRAMI !) more pics added 12-12 - Tue, 04/14/09 10:19 AM
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John thanx for the update! I have been to Irvings and really enjoyed it but i thought I recognized those dogs!!! Just a thought john and I dont know if youll share but if you were going to start a hotdog/ lunch breakfast  truck with a steamtable and a flat top what dogs would you serve and how would you prepare them?? I seems natural to ask the king about what dogs hed serve in his kingdom! im actually looking in the branchburg flemington area along rte 202 corridor!!

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RE: Irving's Deli (PASTRAMI !) more pics added 12-12 - Tue, 04/14/09 10:25 AM
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John - If you think about it, to stop daily production and make a special run, just for Irving's one store, can you imagine how many dogs you'd have to order from Marathon to do that?  How dumb does he think the general public is?  Obviously, very dumb.  Hey, he may be right, but in your case, he's talking to someone who has forgotten more about hot dogs than he and his partner will ever know.

I love that you called the guy on it and wanted to go to the factory with him.  Beautiful!  He must have s__t.

Hey, we use to tell our customers we had the hot dogs (Pitts) made special for us, too!  When they came in on common carrier (1000 lbs) I had my guys get them into the building and into the basement fast as hell.  I also had them black out Marathon's name on the boxes, too.
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RE: Irving's Deli (PASTRAMI !) more pics added 12-12 - Tue, 04/14/09 12:18 PM
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dannybotz


John thanx for the update! I have been to Irvings and really enjoyed it but i thought I recognized those dogs!!! Just a thought john and I dont know if youll share but if you were going to start a hotdog/ lunch breakfast  truck with a steamtable and a flat top what dogs would you serve and how would you prepare them?? I seems natural to ask the king about what dogs hed serve in his kingdom! im actually looking in the branchburg flemington area along rte 202 corridor!!


I haven't really thought about it. There are so many ways to prepare dogs and so many good brands. When I make dogs at home I prepare them a variety of ways. Probably my favorite is on the backyard grill after heating the dogs in water. I also like a good beef and pork dog prepared on a griddle since these tend to be more tender. Whatever you do, I would suggest using a quality dog (one you like) with natural casing. Stay away from the tiny cocktail size franks that are 11 and 12 to a lb. Or if you do serve them, price them accordingly; not like you would an 8 to a lb dog like some do.

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RE: Irving's Deli (PASTRAMI !) more pics added 12-12 - Tue, 04/14/09 12:21 PM
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thanx man i know for sure they will be top notch whatever they are!! look forward to having you grace my stand one day!

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RE: Irving's Deli (PASTRAMI !) more pics added 12-12 - Tue, 04/14/09 12:25 PM
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Baah Ben


John - If you think about it, to stop daily production and make a special run, just for Irving's one store, can you imagine how many dogs you'd have to order from Marathon to do that?  How dumb does he think the general public is?  Obviously, very dumb.  Hey, he may be right, but in your case, he's talking to someone who has forgotten more about hot dogs than he and his partner will ever know.

I love that you called the guy on it and wanted to go to the factory with him.  Beautiful!  He must have s__t.

Hey, we use to tell our customers we had the hot dogs (Pitts) made special for us, too!  When they came in on common carrier (1000 lbs) I had my guys get them into the building and into the basement fast as hell.  I also had them black out Marathon's name on the boxes, too.

 
Baah Ben,
 
I was told that it was considered too labor intensive to make special recipes. The equipment would have to be cleaned so that there wouldn't be any cross flavors, etc. Different recipes are not unheard of though. Grote & Weigel does it for Galloping Hill Inn. But then again GHI goes through over 1000 hot dogs a day.
 
I totally understand people who want to keep the brand a secret. But I also want to know as a consumer what I'm eating. And if I can find out, I will. And I'll share the information, though most customers don't seem to care.
 
When I get some time, I'd like to share a little story about some restaurant owners who tried to have a little fun with some of us Roadfooders regarding the hot dogs they sold. They sort of challenged us to find out and weren't happy when we did.



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RE: Irving's Deli (PASTRAMI !) more pics added 12-12 - Tue, 04/14/09 1:05 PM
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John, now you got my curiosity up...please find the time to tell that story!!!!

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...and name names!!!!

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