White Castle

k9hckmac


Never ate there, it's a chain.

Shouldn't post here then, this is the Fast Food thread ;)

For those that have never seen it. Here is how White Castle's are prepared.

YouTube - YouTube Sandwich: White Castle Burgers

Gee, that can't be. After all, someone here insists that they never put buns on uncooked meat at White Castle.
 
And now that you got my mouth to watering, I'm off to White Castle for something to eat.

Do we know if anyone has ever gotten real sick or died from White Castle hamburgers, because of their rather unique cooking methods?  They have to have passed local, county, state, and federal health inspection codes, no, to be able to continue cooking their burgers as they do?

I'm back with my Castles and some onion chips, and they are delicious.

NYPIzzaNut


Do we know if anyone has ever gotten real sick or died from White Castle hamburgers, because of their rather unique cooking methods?  They have to have passed local, county, state, and federal health inspection codes, no, to be able to continue cooking their burgers as they do?

Last I heard there had been very few deaths attributed to ingesting White Castles. Is there something about the method they use to prepare Castles that you find problematical?

I guess putting the buns atop the raw, uncooked burger as the underside cooks is a bad idea in theory.  On the other hand, perhaps White Castle has done some things beforehand, like sourcing their beef carefully, or testing it carefully, or irradiating it.  If they are certain their beef is not contaminated then the danger of cantact between the bun and raw burger is minimized.  In fact, I'm certain they are doing something like that, because otherwise they'd be courting disaster.

Bruce Bilmes and Sue Boyle


I guess putting the buns atop the raw, uncooked burger as the underside cooks is a bad idea in theory.  On the other hand, perhaps White Castle has done some things beforehand, like sourcing their beef carefully, or testing it carefully, or irradiating it.  If they are certain their beef is not contaminated then the danger of cantact between the bun and raw burger is minimized.  In fact, I'm certain they are doing something like that, because otherwise they'd be courting disaster.

Did you notice how long it was before the bun was placed atop the patty? That's becaue the top is actually already cooking as a result of the steam heat coming up through the five holes. Because Castles steam-cook the top of the patty retains it's color till after the bun is placed on the meat.

Michael Hoffman


I'm back with my Castles and some onion chips, and they are delicious.

You are living proof the product is safe I guess.

Michael Hoffman

Bruce Bilmes and Sue Boyle


I guess putting the buns atop the raw, uncooked burger as the underside cooks is a bad idea in theory.  On the other hand, perhaps White Castle has done some things beforehand, like sourcing their beef carefully, or testing it carefully, or irradiating it.  If they are certain their beef is not contaminated then the danger of cantact between the bun and raw burger is minimized.  In fact, I'm certain they are doing something like that, because otherwise they'd be courting disaster.

Did you notice how long it was before the bun was placed atop the patty? That's becaue the top is actually already cooking as a result of the steam heat coming up through the five holes. Because Castles steam-cook the top of the patty retains it's color till after the bun is placed on the meat.

I was just going by the video posted by Ken K.  I have no idea if that's representative of how it's really done, but in the video the buns are put on the burgers while they are still frozen, I'd venture to say.
 
I take it from others' comments that you are a big WC fan?  I am too - and I am so lucky there are none to be found anywhere near where I live, or I'd be in big trouble.

That is what I always say about good pizza joints.

Bruce Bilmes and Sue Boyle

Michael Hoffman

Bruce Bilmes and Sue Boyle


I guess putting the buns atop the raw, uncooked burger as the underside cooks is a bad idea in theory.  On the other hand, perhaps White Castle has done some things beforehand, like sourcing their beef carefully, or testing it carefully, or irradiating it.  If they are certain their beef is not contaminated then the danger of cantact between the bun and raw burger is minimized.  In fact, I'm certain they are doing something like that, because otherwise they'd be courting disaster.

Did you notice how long it was before the bun was placed atop the patty? That's becaue the top is actually already cooking as a result of the steam heat coming up through the five holes. Because Castles steam-cook the top of the patty retains it's color till after the bun is placed on the meat.

I was just going by the video posted by Ken K.  I have no idea if that's representative of how it's really done, but in the video the buns are put on the burgers while they are still frozen, I'd venture to say.
 
I take it from others' comments that you are a big WC fan?  I am too - and I am so lucky there are none to be found anywhere near where I live, or I'd be in big trouble.

That is representative of how they are done, although I'm sure there are people not quite as deft as the person doing the ones in that video. But, although the patties are frozen as they are placed on the onion base, they've already begun cooking before the buns are placed.

Is it safe to say though that the bottom side of the patty cooks a wee bit more than the top side?

NYPIzzaNut


Is it safe to say though that the bottom side of the patty cooks a wee bit more than the top side?

I wouldn't think so. Neither side actually touches the heat source.

I hated to see them clear away some of the onions when putting the patty on the bun.  Also when do they put the pickle on?

Can you order them with extra onions?

Yes, you can get extra onions. I always order mine with no pickles, but if memory serves, they add the pickles just before placing the Castles in the serving boxes, or directly on plates.

Do they charge for the extra onions, if you nix the pickles?

They do make some fine Honey Butter Biscuits.

I'm sure WC has a very specific Food Prep Operations Manual that describes in great detail how to prepare a W C Burger. They, like McDonalds, Burger King, Jack In The Box et al, are the last company that wants to be accused of poorly cooked Burgers. If you're concerned, Contact them at www.whitecastle.com

You drink everynight?

Bruce Bilmes and Sue Boyle

Michael Hoffman

Bruce Bilmes and Sue Boyle


I guess putting the buns atop the raw, uncooked burger as the underside cooks is a bad idea in theory.  On the other hand, perhaps White Castle has done some things beforehand, like sourcing their beef carefully, or testing it carefully, or irradiating it.  If they are certain their beef is not contaminated then the danger of cantact between the bun and raw burger is minimized.  In fact, I'm certain they are doing something like that, because otherwise they'd be courting disaster.

Did you notice how long it was before the bun was placed atop the patty? That's becaue the top is actually already cooking as a result of the steam heat coming up through the five holes. Because Castles steam-cook the top of the patty retains it's color till after the bun is placed on the meat.

I was just going by the video posted by Ken K.  I have no idea if that's representative of how it's really done, but in the video the buns are put on the burgers while they are still frozen, I'd venture to say.
 
I take it from others' comments that you are a big WC fan?  I am too - and I am so lucky there are none to be found anywhere near where I live, or I'd be in big trouble.

i consider this post a representative of what is wrong with the educational system in this country........
 
  "the raw, uncooked burger" in the video was raw and uncooked for less than 5 minutes and was frozen solid ony a few minutes before that. how long do you think it takes for bacteria to grow anyway?
 
 

marzsit, it's always a good idea to have at least a tiny bit of knowledge about a subject before speaking.  The issue is not the growth of bacteria as the burger defrosts on the grill.  The problem is the bacteria that arrives with the frozen burger, from the slaughterhouse or processor.  Pick up a newspaper once in a while.

Bruce Bilmes and Sue Boyle


marzsit, it's always a good idea to have at least a tiny bit of knowledge about a subject before speaking.  The issue is not the growth of bacteria as the burger defrosts on the grill.  The problem is the bacteria that arrives with the frozen burger, from the slaughterhouse or processor.  Pick up a newspaper once in a while.

By the way, the meat is still uncooked when it's placed on the onions. What's the difference between placing uncooked meat on the onions and placing a bun on the as-yet not fully cooked meat?

Michael Hoffman

Bruce Bilmes and Sue Boyle


marzsit, it's always a good idea to have at least a tiny bit of knowledge about a subject before speaking.  The issue is not the growth of bacteria as the burger defrosts on the grill.  The problem is the bacteria that arrives with the frozen burger, from the slaughterhouse or processor.  Pick up a newspaper once in a while.

By the way, the meat is still uncooked when it's placed on the onions. What's the difference between placing uncooked meat on the onions and placing a bun on the as-yet not fully cooked meat?

The cooking kills the bacteria.  The onions get hot enough to cook.  The meat gets hot enough to cook.  The bun does not.  Probably.  Or maybe it does.  Maybe the steam that comes up through the holes in the burger effectively kills any bacteria.  I don't know.  Seems unlikely to me that the cut surface of the bun reaches 160 degrees.

I guess all is Kosher since they have lasted so long - their website details the cooking method and has a video available also:
http://www.whitecastle.com/_pages/secret.asp

NYPIzzaNut


I guess all is Kosher since they have lasted so long - their website details the cooking method and has a video available also:
http://www.whitecastle.com/_pages/secret.asp

Oh, I'm sure.  Whatever they are doing, I'm sure they have considered food safety a thousand different ways.

gostillerz

k9hckmac


Never ate there, it's a chain.

Shouldn't post here then, this is the Fast Food thread ;)

I suggest you get a sense of humor...

What the Hell is wrong with you people?????
I've never seen or heard of a headline that says, "Joe Blisfick Dies From Eating A White Castle Burger". If you have proof, let's hear it! Otherwise, go witchhunting someplace else, and back-off the Rat Burgers!

Foodbme


What the Hell is wrong with you people?????
I've never seen or heard of a headline that says, "Joe Blisfick Dies From Eating A White Castle Burger". If you have proof, let's hear it! Otherwise, go witchhunting someplace else, and back-off the Rat Burgers!

That's Joe Btfsplk -- The world's most loving friend and worst jinx who always travels with a dark cloud over his head.
 

Michael Hoffman

Foodbme


What the Hell is wrong with you people?????
I've never seen or heard of a headline that says, "Joe Blisfick Dies From Eating A White Castle Burger". If you have proof, let's hear it! Otherwise, go witchhunting someplace else, and back-off the Rat Burgers!

That's Joe Btfsplk -- The world's most loving friend and worst jinx who always travels with a dark cloud over his head.
 

Yep! That's the Guy I'm talkin' about. Thanx for the correct spilin