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chewingthefat
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The most overblown drink - Mon, 05/10/10 5:48 PM
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Put me down for a Mojito, never could figure out the appeal, and years ago a Harvey Wallbanger...
What's your thought?

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Re:The most overblown drink - Mon, 05/10/10 6:20 PM
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Most of these new-age, fancy-pants, creative, girly "Martinis.”  Except for the Hawaiian one at Roy's which I really like.

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Re:The most overblown drink - Mon, 05/10/10 7:09 PM
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I agree. Ditto for a mint julep.
To each there own but sweet cocktails including most "girly" martinis pale.
Give me a gin martini rocks or a dry CC manhatten and I'm a happy camper.

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Re:The most overblown drink - Mon, 05/10/10 9:38 PM
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MilwFoodlovers

Give me a gin martini rocks or a dry CC manhatten and I'm a happy camper.


Just one?

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Re:The most overblown drink - Mon, 05/10/10 9:41 PM
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JRPfeff


MilwFoodlovers

Give me a gin martini rocks or a dry CC manhatten and I'm a happy camper.


Just one?


At a time.

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Re:The most overblown drink - Tue, 05/11/10 8:18 AM
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Anything coming out of a Starbucks!

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Re:The most overblown drink - Tue, 05/11/10 9:17 AM
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JRPfeff


MilwFoodlovers

Give me a gin martini rocks or a dry CC manhatten and I'm a happy camper.


Just one?


He didn't specify size.
 
This past weekend I watched an episode of "Diary of a Foodie" and one of the segments was about a "mixologist" in London and some of the new cocktails he was coming up with.  I couldn't see the appeal but I'm sure some others would.
 
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Re:The most overblown drink - Tue, 05/11/10 10:44 AM
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MilFoodLvr-
  I don't know of anyone in Kentucky who orders a Mint Julep as a 'regular' bar drink at any time during the year, except for the Derby Celebration period. I don't think I would count it in the 'Foo-Foo' pink-foamy stuff we see on some of the 'exotic' drink shows. As a Special celebration beverage, it reminds me of the Egg-Nog Punch of the Christmas Season....nice to remind us of the holiday, but not a staple in my liquor cabinet.

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Re:The most overblown drink - Tue, 05/11/10 11:14 AM
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cavandre


Anything coming out of a Starbucks!


Their coffee gives me serious stomach acid!

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Re:The most overblown drink - Tue, 05/11/10 11:58 AM
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1. Anything from Starbucks.
2. Tang

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Re:The most overblown drink - Tue, 05/11/10 5:14 PM
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Wow, people slamming the pink foo foo drinks, and calling them "new?" - please, the Mai Tai is pink, and it's been around for over half a century. Tiki Bars have been around for more than 3/4 of a century and they've been serving up fruity, sweet drinks all along.

So, fruity, foo foo drinks aren't anything close to being new. There are new ones, of course, to keep up with new trends and wants - they come in and out of fashion. For example, I haven't seen a Sex-on-the-Beach ordered in ages. Died out sometime in the 90s, at the same time the Cosmopolitan rose up and dominated during the late 90s and most of this decade. But it too is losing its popularity now to other drinks.

One thing that seems to put the proverbial panties in a bunch for traditional martini drinkers, is the use of the word "martini."

Well, the cosmo is to blame. Cheryl Cook, who is credited with creating the cosmo in South Beach, said, " What overwhelmed me was the number of people who ordered Martinis just to be seen with a Martini glass in their hand. It was on this realization that gave me the idea to create a drink that everyone could palate and was visually stunning in that classic glass. This is what the Cosmo was based on."

Well, this idea of using the martini glass (instead of other highball glasses or hurricane glasses or, at that time, outdated tiki-cups and coconut shells), spread. And the Martini craze was born. Which is really nothing more than a cocktail craze, but the birth of martini bars has only furthered the relatively new and extended use of the word "martini" to drinks that are really just cocktails. 

So, for all those traditional martini drinkers (many of whom disagree about the use or non-use of olive juice in a true martini - so they can't even agree there), you can blame Cheryl Cook and her cosmopolitan for purposely creating a cocktail for a martini glass, that wasn't a martini -although, I think the Manhattan had already done that. 

Personally, I'm not huge on fruity drinks, tiki bar polynesian included, but my wife enjoys drinks to be more refreshing than harsh like straight up type of drinks. She liked my mint julep this year, and the mojito that followed, but admitted that those types of drinks are too sweet for multiple drinks. But my grapefruit based drink, with its balance of acidic citrus, tart cranberry and sweet triple sec, mixed with vodka, she found extremely refreshing and very drinkable with regards to multiple servings - which works to my advantage later on that night

Sex-on-the-beach was probably the most overblown drink in its heyday.  A sort of screwdriver wapatula. When I was in to that crap, I don't know if I threw up later that night from too much booze, or too much sugar.

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Re:The most overblown drink - Tue, 05/11/10 6:46 PM
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Ah, grapefruit drinks like the Salty Dog disappeared for me when I joined the Statin crowd.
Your Sex-on-the-beach story reminded me of my underage introduction to Southern Comfort.
Probably 45 years have passed since then, the last time I ever drank it.

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Re:The most overblown drink - Tue, 05/11/10 7:48 PM
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Hey!  I like Mojitos.  They're a refreshing drink.

Never could swallow Harvey Wallbangers.

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Re:The most overblown drink - Tue, 05/11/10 7:48 PM
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Since I have no reputation (to speak of) in the beverage area, I can identify my 'Red-Neck Whisky Sour' as an acceptable alternative to the standard issue 'Foo-Foo' drink.

A Slurpee cup,,,or Sonic HiWay Slush cup, plenty of ice, 6 to 8 oz of Bourbon, more if it the first one of the evening, Fill remaining space with Mountain Dew...or if with someone from Michigan, make the topping Vernor's.

Drink the first while mixing the second, or watching one quarter of an NCAA Basketball Tourney game. !!

Ain't no freakin' Foo-Foo's in Southern Indiana !    BTW, Don't fret about drivin' me home after a few of these. My Tractor has a GPS linked to the field-measuring device..It'll take me home without my knowledge !!
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Re:The most overblown drink - Wed, 05/12/10 9:10 PM
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I'm not a huge fan of mojitos and mint juleps, but I like 'em once in a while. (Mint juleps are kind of like mojitos with bourbon....) Both have been around for generations; versions of the mojito have been around for centuries. But after all is said and done, I prefer a manhattan, whisky sour, sidecar, and similar drinks.

I do find the "martini" explosion a bit comical, and I find a lot of the newfangled something-tinis to be over the top. Especially Starbucksesque concoctions like Pomegranate-Acai Frappuccino Mochatini. A dessert masquerading as both cocktail and health food.

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Re:The most overblown drink - Thu, 05/13/10 5:21 PM
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It is my firm belief that in order to qualify as a genuine alcohol laced drink, one's mouth should be able to stomach at least 8 of them in say...2 hours!

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Re:The most overblown drink - Thu, 05/13/10 5:25 PM
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There used to be something called a Long Island Iced Tea. I tasted one once. Disgusting. And then there's a the stupidity of calling something made with vodka a martini.

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Re:The most overblown drink - Fri, 05/14/10 12:38 PM
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Michael Hoffman


There used to be something called a Long Island Iced Tea. I tasted one once. Disgusting. And then there's a the stupidity of calling something made with vodka a martini.


As much Vodka as I have consumed in my life, I've never tried a Martini, or the real thing a Gin Martini....maybe tonight!

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Re:The most overblown drink - Fri, 05/14/10 12:43 PM
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Slainte! Salute!

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Re:The most overblown drink - Sun, 05/16/10 10:06 AM
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I'm all for simplicity, but I'm also a big fan of the whole Tiki thing - Trader Vic's is still going strong here, and it's a must at the annual Drive-Invasion.
As for overblown, see drinks that involve multiple glasses and liquor ignition, like the Flaming Lamborghini. I don't know if anyone's actually made one or it just exists to help fill out a drinks list.

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Re:The most overblown drink - Sun, 05/16/10 12:07 PM
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Michael Hoffman


There used to be something called a Long Island Iced Tea.


It's still out there, and sitting in front of me if I happen to find myself in a drinking establishment, which isn't often these days.

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Re:The most overblown drink - Fri, 07/15/11 1:28 PM
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Put my vote down for whatever that drink is that the (insert pejorative here)s on Sex And The City drink.

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Re:The most overblown drink - Fri, 07/15/11 1:59 PM
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MilwFoodlovers

Give me a gin martini rocks or a dry CC manhatten and I'm a happy camper.


Just one?
"I never have more than one drink before dinner. But I do like that one to be large and very strong and very cold and very well-made."

--Casino Royale, Ian Fleming

 

Michael Hoffman


...  And then there's a the stupidity of calling something made with vodka a martini.
+1.
There's a story that President Lincoln used to ask, when Cabinet meetings got unruly, 'how many legs does a sheep have if you call the tail a leg.  Everyone agreed 5. Lincoln said 4. Just because you CALL the tail a leg, doesn't make it one.'


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Re:The most overblown drink - Thu, 11/24/11 2:41 PM
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  Drinks like Harvey Wallbangers are fad drinks.  I think a lot of people are now ordering Pinot Grigio just to show off the fact that they can pronounce it.

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Re:The most overblown drink - Thu, 11/24/11 4:31 PM
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ZOMBIE THREAD - A thread, back from the dead. 
 
I don't even recall posting on this one.

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Re:The most overblown drink - Thu, 11/24/11 5:39 PM
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President Grant was rumored, when he was a general in the army, to drink alot.Others complained to President Lincoln about it. Abe said" If he drinks and does what he does, then let me send all the other generals a case of liquor." Love that attitude.

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Re:The most overblown drink - Thu, 11/24/11 11:07 PM
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Anybody hear Lewis Black's routine about Wisconsin drinkers?  If you get a chance, listen to it, because it's funny as hell. 
 
But he mentions Brandy Old Fashions and how we're the only people who drink those.  Is that true? 
 
Also, Jaegarmeister.  We drink a ton of that around here and it's gotten a bit out of control.  Everybody's doing Jaegar bombs and whatnot.  Is that true in your part of the country?

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Re:The most overblown drink - Fri, 11/25/11 8:14 AM
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Coffee in the morning, iced tea with lunch and dinner, Evan Williams Black after six.  Most anything else is overblown.

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Re:The most overblown drink - Fri, 11/25/11 8:32 AM
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Routinely, black coffee in the morning, iced tea with lunch and dinner, Evan Williams Black after six.  Most anything else is overblown.
 
That said, there are occasions for beer (beach, golf course, ballgames, pizza joints), Coca Cola, milk, and wine.
 
The bottom line is to know what you are drinking.  In general, "cocktails" are meant in some way or another to disguise what and how much you are drinking.  That is an invitation to a headache, and worse.

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Re:The most overblown drink - Fri, 12/2/11 2:38 PM
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I like mojitos also, but that's as fanciful as I'll get. It's a great drink on a hot summer night. I've never gone in for "popular" drinks or whatever is the latest hot thing, or anything that would make a bartender roll their eyes when ordering it.
 
I really like bourbon, so on occasion I'll have a Jim Beam with ginger ale (Vernor's if I make it at home) and lemon, in a pint glass.
 
SpicyCheese, Jager bombs are big around here, and I've been known to do one on occasion. I prefer Jagermeister straight and unchilled though if I'm going to do a shot of something.

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Re:The most overblown drink - Fri, 12/2/11 3:38 PM
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cosmopolitans, long Island Ice Teas

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Re:The most overblown drink - Fri, 12/2/11 4:58 PM
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Most overblown??? "Energy" Drinks mixed with booze!
Energy "uppers" with alcohol "downers" = one confused, schizophrenic drinker!
The only exception to this is the Irish Coffee at The Buena Vista Cafe in San Francisco. In San Francisco, "Schizo" is a normal state of mind!
http://www.thebuenavista.com/home/irishcoffee.html
The menu at the Buena Vista is nothing to sneeze at either, especially the Breakfasts
http://www.thebuenavista.com/home/menu.html
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Re:The most overblown drink - Sat, 12/3/11 9:12 AM
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Most overblown has to be all the different flavors of martinis.  I do mix it up sometimes when it comes to a martini - sometimes on the rocks, sometimes straight up.  But it's always gin and always very dry.  My favorite was when I asked for a very dry martini and the bartender just took the bottle of vermouth and showed it to the shaker and put it back. 

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Re:The most overblown drink - Sat, 12/3/11 10:45 AM
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Great story, hatteras- my Dad would have loved you!

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Re:The most overblown drink - Sat, 12/3/11 10:56 AM
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You can count me in with the group that is annoyed that anything served in a martini glass is now known as a "martini."
 
I'm getting over it, though.  That horse has already left the barn.
 
I used to bartend part-time when I was young, and still like to look at what is happening in the cocktail world.  I was looking at a list of martinis somewhere, and was surprised to find things like a Manhattan listed. 
Maybe there's some hope for generation X after all!
 
 

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Re:The most overblown drink - Sat, 12/3/11 11:19 AM
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Over blown in size or reputation? How about this 3 gallon Pat O'Brien's Hurricane being consumed at a table next to us in New Orlean's French Quarter.
 


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Re:The most overblown drink - Sat, 12/3/11 11:42 AM
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Davydd


Over blown in size or reputation? How about this 3 gallon Pat O'Brien's Hurricane being consumed at a table next to us in New Orlean's French Quarter.



 
Like the dude's t-shirt! How much does that thing cost?


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Re:The most overblown drink - Sat, 12/3/11 12:37 PM
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[looks over at souvenir Hurricane glass from Pat O'Brien's on windowsill]
 
I wonder whether they require a minimum number of people at a table to allow you to order that thing!
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Re:The most overblown drink - Sat, 12/3/11 4:12 PM
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I have no idea what this one cost. We had the regular size version and I thought the price was reasonable as long as you returned your glass to the bar and got your refund. If save your glass what would you do with it? My wife saved her Weeki Wachee mermaid coke souvenir plastic container on this trip.
 
I don't recall a minimum number of people on the drink list. I don't think they would care as I suspect a lot of people leave some since I am sure people do it for the novelty with no expectations of finishing. These four people looked a bit giddy and they weren't half done. They don't cheat on the drinks. You just don't realize how much you're drinking. I could feel it from just the regular glass.

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Re:The most overblown drink - Sun, 12/4/11 12:41 AM
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Davydd



Oh YEAHHHH!!!

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Re:The most overblown drink - Sun, 12/4/11 6:04 AM
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So, one could order the monster drink for oneself!
 


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Re:The most overblown drink - Sun, 12/4/11 8:24 AM
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I have always been a fan of Canadian.  Bushie came to visit me a few years ago and we took a ride to Pigeon Forge, Gatlinburg and Cosby, TN which is the moonshine capital of the USA.  I had some Canadian which we imbibed and mixed it with some apple cider unpasterized that I bought from my friend, Bill Kilpatrick which owns the Apple Barn.  We could not stop at one and had another and then perhaps another.  As I recall, we retired to my dock and I do not recall much after that. .  I call it over blown because after two or three or maybe more. I was blown over.  I think Bushie was also but it gets a bit fuzzy after that.
 
The concoction was of course, Bushies recipe which happened to be a bit strong
 
http://www.applebarncidermill.com/DirectionsWEB/webcart_static.php?file=static_aboutUs
 
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Re:The most overblown drink - Sun, 12/4/11 7:47 PM
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chewingthefat


Put me down for a Mojito, never could figure out the appeal, and years ago a Harvey Wallbanger...
What's your thought?

You have to have a properly prepared mojito in order to appreciate them. The Roosevelt Hotel in Hollywood is the only place I have had a good one.
 

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Re:The most overblown drink - Mon, 12/5/11 9:06 AM
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GotBaddog


chewingthefat


Put me down for a Mojito, never could figure out the appeal, and years ago a Harvey Wallbanger...
What's your thought?

You have to have a properly prepared mojito in order to appreciate them. The Roosevelt Hotel in Hollywood is the only place I have had a good one.


 
On a cruise once, I went to a "talk" on martini's or something else I can't remember (the only reason i went was for the free samples) and the bartender giving the presentation said the secret is to make really bad mojito's early in the shift.  Otherwise, he would be stuck making them the rest of the night and they are a royal pain in the butt to make correctly.  So my guess is that there are a lot of bad ones out there to keep more people from ordering them.


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Re:The most overblown drink - Mon, 12/5/11 9:56 AM
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For me the most overblown and over rated drinks are the blended scotchs like theJohnny Walker and that ilk. I'll have a Glenmorangie neat and a La Finca.

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Re:The most overblown drink - Mon, 12/5/11 11:28 AM
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Like so many elements in our life today, the beverage realm has become more sub-divided and complex than most of us recall from "the early days"!
Simple example, i recall the only decision I would make in choosing a cola was COKE or PEPSI. Setting aside all the other brands, stay with that basic choice for a moment... now add- diet or regular sweetener or semi-caloric--caffine or no caffine-- Brown or clear (Krystal Pepsi is history now, but it was a choice for several years)-- Glass, returnable or recycle-- or cans. Quantity 6 oz, 8oz, 10 oz, 12 oz, 16 oz, 20,oz, half liter, quart, liter, 1/2 gallon, 2 liter
OK Expand that to other beverages-
Wines
Beers
Distiled Spirits
Coffees
Tea
 
As with many other realms, the complexity is mind-boggling for many of us.
I want a Cola,
I want a cup of coffee- sweet and light
I want Sweetened Iced Tea with lots of lemon
etc etc

K I S S   !!!

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Re:The most overblown drink - Mon, 12/5/11 12:34 PM
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mayor al


Like so many elements in our life today, the beverage realm has become more sub-divided and complex than most of us recall from "the early days"!
Simple example, i recall the only decision I would make in choosing a cola was COKE or PEPSI. Setting aside all the other brands, stay with that basic choice for a moment... now add- diet or regular sweetener or semi-caloric--caffine or no caffine-- Brown or clear (Krystal Pepsi is history now, but it was a choice for several years)-- Glass, returnable or recycle-- or cans. Quantity 6 oz, 8oz, 10 oz, 12 oz, 16 oz, 20,oz, half liter, quart, liter, 1/2 gallon, 2 liter
OK Expand that to other beverages-
Wines
Beers
Distiled Spirits
Coffees
Tea

As with many other realms, the complexity is mind-boggling for many of us.
I want a Cola,
I want a cup of coffee- sweet and light
I want Sweetened Iced Tea with lots of lemon
etc etc

K I S S   !!!

It's even more complex than that.  Just take diet coke (which I unfortunately have to now with the diabetes).  You can choose from regular diet coke, caffeine free diet coke, diet coke plus (with vitamins added), diet coke with lime, diet coke with cherry, diet coke with splenda, coke zero, coke zero cherry, or coke zero vanilla. 

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Re:The most overblown drink - Mon, 12/5/11 12:56 PM
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Makes me want to drink only water... but which to choose prevents the change !!
 
AND
 
I don't talk about BBQ to anyone these days, for the same complex reasons.

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Re:The most overblown drink - Mon, 12/5/11 1:48 PM
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It's even more complex than that.  Just take diet coke (which I unfortunately have to now with the diabetes).  You can choose from regular diet coke, caffeine free diet coke, diet coke plus (with vitamins added), diet coke with lime, diet coke with cherry, diet coke with splenda, coke zero, coke zero cherry, or coke zero vanilla. 

Too many Marketing Guru's with too much time who have to justify their salaries!!!

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Re:The most overblown drink - Mon, 12/5/11 2:18 PM
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Caffeine Free Diet Coke was the most vile thing I ever drank. And I used to take shots of 151........

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Re:The most overblown drink - Mon, 12/5/11 4:13 PM
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On a cruise once, I went to a "talk" on martini's or something else I can't remember (the only reason i went was for the free samples) and the bartender giving the presentation said the secret is to make really bad mojito's early in the shift.  Otherwise, he would be stuck making them the rest of the night and they are a royal pain in the butt to make correctly.  So my guess is that there are a lot of bad ones out there to keep more people from ordering them.

 
I totally believe this. Last time I inquired at a bar if they could make me one, the bartender rolled his eyes, said yes, and made some comment about me being a jerk for ordering one (not maliciously). I asked why, and he said that he'd make me one, and it'd probably be the best one I'd ever had, and when everyone saw me with it, they'd want one too and he'd be making them all night. He was right on both counts. Best one I'd ever had, and I saw several people later that evening drinking them. I guess he hadn't figured out to make bad ones early enough to turn people off of them.

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Re:The most overblown drink - Tue, 12/6/11 1:31 PM
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hatteras04



On a cruise once, I went to a "talk" on martini's or something else I can't remember (the only reason i went was for the free samples) and the bartender giving the presentation said the secret is to make really bad mojito's early in the shift.  Otherwise, he would be stuck making them the rest of the night and they are a royal pain in the butt to make correctly.  So my guess is that there are a lot of bad ones out there to keep more people from ordering them.

I just got back from a business trip to Prague for a trade show. One of my friends was sponsoring a happy hour at the show hotel and is a big fan of foo-foo drinks like Mojitos. I guess Mojitos must ride at the top of the list as he wanted Mojitos to be made en masse and using his recipe. He even had a local translate the recipe into Czech for the bartenders.
 
It was a valiant effort, but I think your cruise ship bartender must have visited Hotel Praja before we got there.

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Re:The most overblown drink - Thu, 12/8/11 4:57 PM
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I miss Pat Obrien's hurricanes
 
the 26 oz are the perfect size for one person to consume several.
 
and only $8.00
 
I dont know what the size is on that little one in the middle of the table.