Tell Me About Places that are Gone

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hungovergourmet
Cheeseburger
2004/01/25 23:13:19
Getting started on issue #8 of The Hungover Gourmet and it'll have a special section on places that are going or gone. I'd love to have some contributions from the folks here at Roadfood. If you're interested in finding out more, drop me a line at editor@hungovergourmet.com.

My favorite place that's no longer there? The Howard Johnson's in Willingboro, NJ. Probably twice a month my parents would take my brothers and me there for the Friday night all-you-can-eat fish fry. Big pieces of flounder drenched in bread crumbs and fried. Aw, my mouth's watering just thinking about it. I think that's where I developed my life-long devotion to tartar sauce!
Ort. Carlton.
Filet Mignon
RE: Tell Me About Places that are Gone 2004/01/25 23:24:54
hungover,
I'd have to say that my most poignant loss would have to be Pilgreen's Steak House on Lee Street in Southwest Atlanta. I only managed to eat there once, but it made this website... until fire closed it. - The place is still sitting there, balefully vacant, its empty facade staring out into the passing traffic.
I'll never forget the chartreuse fluorescent lighting that made everyone look like varying degrees of Martianness.
Michael, how many such listings have you been forced to pull? Maybe you could replace them all into a "You Missed These" thread somehow. It would be interesting, if only for historical sake.
Losing It Was A Bitter Pilgreen To Swallow, Ort. Carlton in Nearby Athens, Georgia.
Michael Stern
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Tell Me About Places that are Gone 2004/01/26 05:43:46
I agree with Ort. about Pilgreen's. Thanks to his recommendation, Jane and I were lucky enough to eat there one time, and it was a classic in every way.

Personally, I miss the old Jimmie's of Savin Rock (Connecticut) where the hot lobster rolls were ultra-buttery, the split weiners were crisp, and the countermen were like Marine D.I.s on crystal meth. Another New Haven area place dear to my heart is the old George & Harry's, an ancient Greek-run cafeteria/tavern with spectacular carved woodwork everywhere.

Also, two other long-gone greats in Georgia: Mrs. Bonner's of Crawfordville, for the greatest sweet potato pie; and CH Mitchell the Bar B Que King for BBQ and Brunswick stew.

Then there's the chicken at Mary's Cupboard in Winnetka, Illinois ... and the world's best hot fudge sundae at The Sweet Shop, also in Winnetka (my home town) ... and ... oh, this is too sad...
EliseT
Filet Mignon
RE: Tell Me About Places that are Gone 2004/01/26 05:55:33
Ship's coffee shops and Ben Franklin's...both in Hollywood. Cool Googie architecture, waitresses stubbornly carrying those beehives through the 1980s, and toasters at every table. Great for 3 am sober-you-up food and weird star sightings.

Check this thread out for some other suggestions:

http://www.roadfood.com/Forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=479&SearchTerms=,defunct
hungovergourmet
Cheeseburger
RE: Tell Me About Places that are Gone 2004/01/26 09:31:31
Wow... thanks for the quick responses. I've just started posting to the forums here and I'm thoroughly impressed by the knowledge, enthusiasm and input from the group.

Do you guys mind if I use some of this input for the newsletter?

"Marine DIs on crystal meth," what a word picture THAT paints!

A favorite place of mine that's on its way out is The Pennsauken Mart in Pennsauken, NJ. It's an indoor flea market and they have this place in there called Italian Village that makes some of the best Italian hoagies in the Philadelphia/South Jersey area. There's also another place that makes incredible Philly Soft Pretzels. The Mart has a rep for beinbg a little "dirty" so the soft pretzel place is almost hermetically sealed!! They're tearing down the Mart to put up a convention and expo center.
KimChee43
Cheeseburger
RE: Tell Me About Places that are Gone 2004/01/26 09:53:45
I miss Woolworth's lunch counter. They had great hamburgers and shakes, as I recall. Holiday Inns had their own dining rooms once. It was the place to go for "fine dining" when I was growing up.
Michael Stern
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Tell Me About Places that are Gone 2004/01/26 09:59:01
quote:
Originally posted by KimChee43

I miss Woolworth's lunch counter. They had great hamburgers and shakes, as I recall. Holiday Inns had their own dining rooms once. It was the place to go for "fine dining" when I was growing up.


Yes! I remember going to a Holiday Inn dining room, the Yellow Pages ad for which boasted, "Dinner Served with Continental Services." Sounds a little funereal to me.
10X10
Hamburger
RE: Tell Me About Places that are Gone 2004/01/26 10:01:37
The Stern's may remember this place...Whities(not sure if that is the correct spelling), on route #1 outside of Guilford, CT. Nothing was better as a child growing up in the New Haven area, then to be taken to this seasonal restaurant where steaks, corn and clams where grilled outside and served up in the rough. And after you finished dinner a side trip to the old Maple Shade dairy factory for some freshly prepared ice cream.
tsores
Double Cheeseburger
RE: Tell Me About Places that are Gone 2004/01/26 10:09:27
As a kid in Chicago, my father used to bring me to the F&T Restaurant on Milwaukee and Division. It was primarily a steam table affair with and they had great roast beef sandwiches. Sometimes, when seating was tight, a stranger would sit at our table and we would all start to chat. I thought this was the wierdest thing.
Michael Stern
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Tell Me About Places that are Gone 2004/01/26 10:41:49
quote:
Originally posted by 10X10

The Stern's may remember this place...Whities(not sure if that is the correct spelling), on route #1 outside of Guilford, CT. Nothing was better as a child growing up in the New Haven area, then to be taken to this seasonal restaurant where steaks, corn and clams where grilled outside and served up in the rough. And after you finished dinner a side trip to the old Maple Shade dairy factory for some freshly prepared ice cream.


10x10, it's still there , now called[url='http://www.roadfood.com/Reviews/Overview.aspx?RefID=191']The Place[/url]. Same menu (higher prices, though!); and still summers-only, BYOB.
10X10
Hamburger
RE: Tell Me About Places that are Gone 2004/01/26 10:47:04
Thats it!I can still remeber climbing the hills of sun bleached clam shells! Thanks for the memories
quote:
Originally posted by Michael Stern

quote:
Originally posted by 10X10

The Stern's may remember this place...Whities(not sure if that is the correct spelling), on route #1 outside of Guilford, CT. Nothing was better as a child growing up in the New Haven area, then to be taken to this seasonal restaurant where steaks, corn and clams where grilled outside and served up in the rough. And after you finished dinner a side trip to the old Maple Shade dairy factory for some freshly prepared ice cream.


10x10, it's still there , now called[url='http://www.roadfood.com/Reviews/Overview.aspx?RefID=191']The Place[/url]. Same menu (higher prices, though!); and still summers-only, BYOB.
wanderingjew
Sirloin
RE: Tell Me About Places that are Gone 2004/01/26 10:52:28
"wolfie's delicatessen" South Beach Miami and Merrick NY (no affiliation)
Michael Hoffman
Double-chop Porterhouse
RE: Tell Me About Places that are Gone 2004/01/26 11:03:18
I miss the old Jimmie's at Savin Rock, and Turk's and Phyliss', too. I Also miss G&H on Wall Street in New Haven, and the Arena Grille, where you could get the best lasagna in the world on Wednesdays. I miss Waybright Cafeteria on Dickinson Street in Charleston, West Virginia, and the Hub for barbeque and fried bologna sandwiches at the corner of Dickinson and Quarrier streets. I miss White Towers and Royal Castles, as well.
chezkatie
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Tell Me About Places that are Gone 2004/01/26 11:05:56
The year that the first ROADFOOD came out (1977?), we ate our way through the New England states with a copy. What fun it was. A highlight of our yearly trips through that area was our stop at Shirley's Dining Room in Skowhegan, Maine. I will never forget the wonderful and huge breakfasts that we enjoyed there. When I saw someone in the kichen actually peeling the peaches for my bowl of peaches and real cream, I was sold! I can remember huge slices of French toast dripping with REAL maple syrup and the slices of homemade bread, toasted! The slices were so big that we could not believe our eyes. The first two times we ate there, we ordered way too much food.........after that we learned! I am fairly sure that Shirley's Dining Room is no longer there and I have never found another breakfast to duplicate the ones we enjoyed so much.
Michael Hoffman
Double-chop Porterhouse
RE: Tell Me About Places that are Gone 2004/01/26 11:06:24
quote:
Originally posted by 10X10

The Stern's may remember this place...Whities(not sure if that is the correct spelling), on route #1 outside of Guilford, CT. Nothing was better as a child growing up in the New Haven area, then to be taken to this seasonal restaurant where steaks, corn and clams where grilled outside and served up in the rough. And after you finished dinner a side trip to the old Maple Shade dairy factory for some freshly prepared ice cream.


I remember Whitey's. I understand it is still there, but with a different name. I also remember Chello's Oyster House just down the road to the west. That was a great place, and they had the biggest pile of oyster shells anywhere.
Route 11
Double Cheeseburger
RE: Tell Me About Places that are Gone 2004/01/26 13:50:31
Hot Shoppes at Tysons Corner Mall in Fairfax, VA. It was one of the last vestiges of a pre-Galleria style mall. It left about the same time the Woolworth's did.
And I will always miss Howard Johnsons! I love aqua and orange and fried clams all in the same room. (Thanks Jane Wagner)
saps
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Tell Me About Places that are Gone 2004/01/26 14:21:31
In Chicago, Bertini's Steak House on Wells, right about where Crofton on Wells is know. To this date, still the best steak I've ever eaten in my life.
Michael Stern
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Tell Me About Places that are Gone 2004/01/26 14:35:35
quote:
Originally posted by chezkatie

Shirley's Dining Room in Skowhegan, Maine.


Oh, yes! Thanks for the memory. I had forgotten Shirley's. One of the all-time greats, and one of the places that convinced us Roadfood was worth doing.
10X10
Hamburger
RE: Tell Me About Places that are Gone 2004/01/26 14:42:13
I forgot all about the Hot Shoppes. They had great fried chicken and mashed potatoes
quote:
Originally posted by Route 11

Hot Shoppes at Tysons Corner Mall in Fairfax, VA. It was one of the last vestiges of a pre-Galleria style mall. It left about the same time the Woolworth's did.
And I will always miss Howard Johnsons! I love aqua and orange and fried clams all in the same room. (Thanks Jane Wagner)
i95
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Tell Me About Places that are Gone 2004/01/26 18:33:28
Sherrell's and Sholl's Cafeteria -- both in DC and both gone.
jpatweb
Cheeseburger
RE: Tell Me About Places that are Gone 2004/01/26 18:56:28
quote:
Originally posted by i95

Sherrell's and Sholl's Cafeteria -- both in DC and both gone.


As is Duke Zeibart's.
i95
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Tell Me About Places that are Gone 2004/01/26 19:18:34
You're right jpatweb. And hungovergourmet, if you post these on a site, make sure you invest in a sound card to play Tommy Keene's (http://www.tommykeene.com/) "Places That are Gone" in the background.
EliseT
Filet Mignon
RE: Tell Me About Places that are Gone 2004/01/27 04:12:20
quote:
Originally posted by hungovergourmet

Wow... thanks for the quick responses. I've just started posting to the forums here and I'm thoroughly impressed by the knowledge, enthusiasm and input from the group.

Do you guys mind if I use some of this input for the newsletter?

"Marine DIs on crystal meth," what a word picture THAT paints!

A favorite place of mine that's on its way out is The Pennsauken Mart in Pennsauken, NJ. It's an indoor flea market and they have this place in there called Italian Village that makes some of the best Italian hoagies in the Philadelphia/South Jersey area. There's also another place that makes incredible Philly Soft Pretzels. The Mart has a rep for beinbg a little "dirty" so the soft pretzel place is almost hermetically sealed!! They're tearing down the Mart to put up a convention and expo center.


Make sure to post a link to the newsletter so we can check it out!
hungovergourmet
Cheeseburger
RE: Tell Me About Places that are Gone 2004/01/27 14:32:02
quote:
Originally posted by EliseT

Make sure to post a link to the newsletter so we can check it out!


I'm compiling the 'Going, Going, Gone!' piece for issue #8 of The Hungover Gourmet which is the food, drink and travel newsletter I put out a couple times a year. I will definitely post info here when the issue comes out this summer. If anybody's interested they can learn about our current ish at http://www.hungovergourmet.com

I saw somebody mentioned Woolworth's above. The Cherry Hill Mall in Cherry Hill, NJ had a sunken grill luncheonette outside Woolworth's that made it look like they only hired height-challenged individuals. They also had a place called The Harvest House which was their sit-down restaurant and I think that was part of Woolworth's, too. Can't be positive.
Rusty246
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Tell Me About Places that are Gone 2004/01/27 14:35:31
Frisches's Big Boy. Geez, it's been so long I think I've even spelled the name wrong.
Sushi_Girl
Cheeseburger
RE: Tell Me About Places that are Gone 2004/01/27 14:52:17
Here in Gainesville i miss Skeeters. it boasted "biscuts as big as your head" it was downtown, and open all night. so we would lurch in there feet hurting ears ringing after a night of dancing at 80's old wave night at the University club and eat a huge breafast. Its now a nasty nasty little club.
chezkatie
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Tell Me About Places that are Gone 2004/01/27 15:09:16
quote:
Originally posted by Sushi_Girl

Here in Gainesville i miss Skeeters. it boasted "biscuts as big as your head" it was downtown, and open all night. so we would lurch in there feet hurting ears ringing after a night of dancing at 80's old wave night at the University club and eat a huge breafast. Its now a nasty nasty little club.



I nearly fell over when I read SKEETERS in Gainesville. My husband's uncle, who was famous for saving every penny he could, used to brag the the people up north how he would take his wife out for breakfast in Gainesville, Fl where the biscuits were so huge that they each would order a coffee and share a biscuit! We shook our heads over that for years! Now be honest with me...............how big WERE they??
Rusty246
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Tell Me About Places that are Gone 2004/01/27 15:17:59
quote:
Originally posted by Sushi_Girl

Here in Gainesville i miss Skeeters. it boasted "biscuts as big as your head" it was downtown, and open all night. so we would lurch in there feet hurting ears ringing after a night of dancing at 80's old wave night at the University club and eat a huge breafast. Its now a nasty nasty little club.

Oh yeah! The L'il Asher was my favorite. I went alot when they were on 13th St. The thing they could have done without though was the "talent". After drinking and dancing you did NOT want to hear that. But I guess that was just part of being "Skeeter's". Did you know the guy that owned that also owned "Cafe' Risque"? Speaking of nasty..
Sushi_Girl
Cheeseburger
RE: Tell Me About Places that are Gone 2004/01/27 15:18:40
ChezkatieThey were giant biscuits, i would say about two fists together big and round. we would get one and two sides of gravy and pig out.
Rusty246
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Tell Me About Places that are Gone 2004/01/27 15:19:52
quote:
Originally posted by chezkatie

quote:
Originally posted by Sushi_Girl

Here in Gainesville i miss Skeeters. it boasted "biscuts as big as your head" it was downtown, and open all night. so we would lurch in there feet hurting ears ringing after a night of dancing at 80's old wave night at the University club and eat a huge breafast. Its now a nasty nasty little club.



I nearly fell over when I read SKEETERS in Gainesville. My husband's uncle, who was famous for saving every penny he could, used to brag the the people up north how he would take his wife out for breakfast in Gainesville, Fl where the biscuits were so huge that they each would order a coffee and share a biscuit! We shook our heads over that for years! Now be honest with me...............how big WERE they??

Bigger than a saucer for sure.
Sushi_Girl
Cheeseburger
RE: Tell Me About Places that are Gone 2004/01/27 15:26:42
quote:
Originally posted by Rusty246
Oh yeah! The L'il Asher was my favorite. I went alot when they were on 13th St. The thing they could have done without though was the "talent". After drinking and dancing you did NOT want to hear that. But I guess that was just part of being "Skeeter's". Did you know the guy that owned that also owned "Cafe' Risque"? Speaking of nasty..

I know they used to have these bands playing in there, or just some guy with an acoustic that was terrible. I went to Cafe Risque once because a friend of mine was working there (hey she put herself through college that way), and i was amused at all the mens antics. mostly it was foreign men.
Rusty246
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Tell Me About Places that are Gone 2004/01/27 15:40:44
quote:
Originally posted by Sushi_Girl

quote:
Originally posted by Rusty246
Oh yeah! The L'il Asher was my favorite. I went alot when they were on 13th St. The thing they could have done without though was the "talent". After drinking and dancing you did NOT want to hear that. But I guess that was just part of being "Skeeter's". Did you know the guy that owned that also owned "Cafe' Risque"? Speaking of nasty..

I know they used to have these bands playing in there, or just some guy with an acoustic that was terrible. I went to Cafe Risque once because a friend of mine was working there (hey she put herself through college that way), and i was amused at all the mens antics. mostly it was foreign men.

And my husband, well before he was my husband. He'd take clients there. How impresive......
I asked him if they actually ate, of course the reply was yes.
St. Louis Browns fan
Cheeseburger
RE: Tell Me About Places that are Gone 2004/01/27 19:00:37
The Buffalo at Irving Park and Pulaski in Chicago was a circa 1900 ice cream parlor that made the best banana splits and sundaes on earth. The whipped cream was whipped by hand! It was sold and leveled for a gas station.

What does the world need more - a historic, first-rate ice cream parlor or another generic c-store with gas pumps?
Ort. Carlton.
Filet Mignon
RE: Tell Me About Places that are Gone 2004/01/27 20:39:16
Dearfolk,
Also on my "long gone but not forgotten" list are:
Paschall's LaCarousel on West Hunter Street (M. L. K. now) in Atlanta.
Harry's Steak House on Spring St., N/W near Georgia Tech.
Joe Cotton's Drive-In on Lee St., S/W in West End.
Wingo's Restaurant on Campbellton Rd., S/W.
The Pig & Whistle on Ponce de Leon Ave., N/E.
The Waldorf Steak House nearby.
Doby's Good Food up from that.
Art's Donuts on Moreland Ave., N/E at Boulevard Drive.
Log Cabin Barbecue on Glenwood Road in Decatur.
Dial's Bar-B-Que on Barnett Shoals Road in Athens.
Seagraves' Bar-B-Q on Old Atlanta Highway.
Poss' Barbecue on Atlanta Highway.
Tony's Restaurant on East Clayton Street in dotntown Athens.
The Chase Street Cafe on South Chase Street.
Chandler's Bar-B-Q on Danielsville Road.
Tittle's Cafe in Whitehall "It cost so little to eat with Tittle."
Mrs. Threatt's Cafe in Commerce, Georgia.
...And the list, like the road, goes ever onward....
Nostalgically, Ort. Carlton in Athens, Georgia.
P. S. God rest Mrs. Bonner! And Ma Groover!
P. P. S. Michael - Is The Indian Trail in Winnetka still there? If it wasn't in Winnetka, it was on that side of Chicago. It was written up in one of your earliest books. I've seen no mention of it since.
ardee
Cheeseburger
RE: Tell Me About Places that are Gone 2004/01/28 13:05:25
quote:
Originally posted by Rusty246

Frisches's Big Boy. Geez, it's been so long I think I've even spelled the name wrong.

Frisch's Big Boy Restaurants are alive and well, but can only be found in Ohio, Kentucky, and Indiana. The other Big Boy Restaurants, Elias Bros, Elby's, etc, aren't doing too well since the parent corporation declared bankruptcy a couple of years ago, but there are several of them still around as well.
number71
Junior Burger
RE: Tell Me About Places that are Gone 2004/01/28 16:36:03
Link's Log Cabin, huntington(?) Long Island, NY
Howard Johnson's--all over Long island
The Squire Deli--Great Neck, NY
(The wallpaper was of a forest, floor to ceiling for some reason.)
Gildo's Port Washington Long island
Lorainne Murphy's, Manhasset NY
Good Old times Ice Cream parlour, Roslyn, NY(which also made the ice cream and sold it there!)


There was a sushi resteraunt in Milwaukee Wi near the Oriental Theater which I used to love, but don't rememebr the name(you don't see many decent sushi places in Milwaukee!)


I'm sure more will come to me~!
10X10
Hamburger
RE: Tell Me About Places that are Gone 2004/01/28 16:40:55
Gosh, I remember Squire's we would eat lunch there everyday back in the late 80's. I worked right across the street from the Firehouse. I think it was called Bayview Ave
quote:
Originally posted by number71

Link's Log Cabin, huntington(?) Long Island, NY
Howard Johnson's--all over Long island
The Squire Deli--Great Neck, NY
(The wallpaper was of a forest, floor to ceiling for some reason.)
Gildo's Port Washington Long island
Lorainne Murphy's, Manhasset NY
Good Old times Ice Cream parlour, Roslyn, NY(which also made the ice cream and sold it there!)


There was a sushi resteraunt in Milwaukee Wi near the Oriental Theater which I used to love, but don't rememebr the name(you don't see many decent sushi places in Milwaukee!)


I'm sure more will come to me~!

Ort. Carlton.
Filet Mignon
RE: Tell Me About Places that are Gone 2004/01/28 17:27:52
quote:
Originally posted by ardee

quote:
Originally posted by Rusty246

Frisches's Big Boy. Geez, it's been so long I think I've even spelled the name wrong.

Frisch's Big Boy Restaurants are alive and well, but can only be found in Ohio, Kentucky, and Indiana. The other Big Boy Restaurants, Elias Bros, Elby's, etc, aren't doing too well since the parent corporation declared bankruptcy a couple of years ago, but there are several of them still around as well.


Dearfolk,
Here in Georgia, Shoney's holds the Big Boy franchise. They have it for Tennessee as well; I'm not sure of how many other states.
Wasn't Manners' Big Boy the holder in Illinois? I remember seeing that chain as a kid on a trip somewhere.
A Big Boy Myself, Ort. Carlton in Bigger Athens, GA.
RedPatti
Cheeseburger
RE: Tell Me About Places that are Gone 2004/01/28 17:47:15
Tootsies in Tarzana, California. The most fabulous juicy burgers and worldclass beer.
Route 11
Double Cheeseburger
RE: Tell Me About Places that are Gone 2004/01/28 17:52:58
Has anyone mentioned Big Boy? They closed the Abdow's Big Boy in Westfield, MA. It was pretty good. The Slob's Pig Boys in Virginia were not.
Frankman
Cheeseburger
RE: Tell Me About Places that are Gone 2004/01/28 18:41:31
The Old Heidelburg(sp) Castle in Sarasota Fl. A huge place with extra long tables on the floor. An upper balcony of tables along the entire perimeter of the room. And a third level above the second. A floor show every weekend. Boy, what a party! What food! What beer! What dancing!
Michael Stern
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Tell Me About Places that are Gone 2004/01/28 18:48:06
quote:
Originally posted by Ort. Carlton.

P. S. God rest Mrs. Bonner! And Ma Groover!
P. P. S. Michael - Is The Indian Trail in Winnetka still there? If it wasn't in Winnetka, it was on that side of Chicago. It was written up in one of your earliest books. I've seen no mention of it since.


Amen, and sorry to say that the Indian Trail is long gone. It was one of the last great Midwest tea rooms.
Sundancer7
Fire Safety Admin
RE: Tell Me About Places that are Gone 2004/01/28 19:14:24
In Knoxville, TN we had a place which was an institution called "Regas" Two years they closed down due to the downtown area. They were famous for their menu, endurance since they had been around for close 100 years, ambience, quality and a perfect place to dine. Some of you may be aware of their existence as Dave Thomas of Wendy's got his start there. At their height, they were doing close to 6 mil a year and at their closing, they were close to 3 mil. They re-opened a few months after closing and are trying to recapture their original ambience. From what I gather, they may be doing that.

It makes you wonder. Does any of the readers remember the "Regas"

http://www.findarticles.com/cf_dls/m3190/14_35/72986852/p1/article.jhtml

Thanks
Paul E. Smith
Knoxville, TN
Vince Macek
Double Cheeseburger
RE: Tell Me About Places that are Gone 2004/01/28 20:25:09
In my Kansas childhood, *the* place to eat in Junction City was Cohen's Chicken House (what could top really good fried chicken?) Nice rustic place with photos of celebrities (or the local equivalent) who ate there. I was thoroughly bummed to go through town 10 years ago and be told by a motel clerk the place had burned down - moreso seeing the thread here on the (lack of) good places in Kansas. 20 years ago my brother went through on a road trip and couldn't get his friend to stop there, who instead was drawn to some nasty 'big-top' themed chain place like a crow to a shiny piece of tinfoil.

Closer to here and now, I'm sorry Deacon Burton's is gone - after the Deacon left us they spruced the place up, which was a bad move, then family squabbles did it in.

I'm also bummed I never got to the Edistonian, on SC Highway 17 just south of the island of same name. From what I heard, a great place for fried seafood.
Edwaste
Cheeseburger
RE: Tell Me About Places that are Gone 2004/01/28 23:10:51
Duckey's - Asbury Park, On the boardwalk.

Best dogs ever! Shickhaus natural casing grilled til they popped.

Forever gone.
ardee
Cheeseburger
RE: Tell Me About Places that are Gone 2004/01/29 10:03:28
MORE BIG BOY HISTORY THAN YOU REALLY WANT TO KNOW

California chain Bob's Big Boy started as Bob's Pantry in 1936 when Big Boy founder Bob Wian bought a local Glendale restaurant. Wian developed a signature double-decker hamburger (the Big Boy) and a Big Boy statue with wavy hair that eventually became an icon to many restaurant goers. Wian turned to franchising sometime in or the 1940s, and unlike chains like McDonald's, Wian did not require strict uniformity among franchisees. Outside of California, Big Boy restaurants could go by their franchise owner's name, as some restaurants were called everything from Kip's Big Boy to Azar's Big Boy to Frisch's Big Boy. There were also franchises such as Tops Drive In that did not even use the Big Boy name, but did serve the Big Boy sandwich and used the image of Big Boy for advertising.

Eventually, the Marriott company bought the franchise business in 1967; and, in the late 1980s, many restaurants in Southern California were sold off and became Coco's or Carrows. Marriott sold Big Boy to the Elias brothers from Michigan in 1987, who then sold the bankrupt chain in 2000 to Robert Ligget. The chain, now based in Michigan and called Big Boy Restaurants International, has 160 restaurants, and according to CEO Tony Michaels, has developed a new store-design that will spearhead a re-introduction foray into Southern California.

In 1946 Dave Frisch of Cincinnatti, Ohio purchased Big Boy franchise rights from Bob Wian of Glendale, California, the originator of the Big Boy double decker sandwich and the Big Boy chain of restaurants. Dave did make one change to the sandwich - he used tartar sauce instead of thousand island dressing on the sandwich. This difference between the Frisch's Big Boy sandwich and all the other Big Boy sandwiches continues to this day. Frisch opened other Big Boys in northern Kentucky and southeastern Indiana, then began selling franchises for Frisch's Big Boy, which his agreement with Mr Wian allowed. There are over 100 Frisch's Big Boy restaurants now covering much of Ohio, Kentucky, and Indiana, and they no longer have any connection to Big Boy Restaurants International.

In 1951 Alex Schoenbaum purchased Big Boy franchise rights for the southeastern states, which meant that not only could he open his own Big Boy restaurants, he could sell franchises to others in the southeast, and so the Shoney's Big Boys expanded. In 1986 he dropped Big Boy, becoming instead just Shoney's Restaurants. He also began expanding outside the southeast. There are now over 300 Shoney's Restaurants, which have no connection with Big Boy.

In 1952, brothers Louis, Fred and John became franchisees and changed their diners to Elias Brothers Big Boy Restaurants -- featuring the double-decker hamburger, the Slim Jim, and the immortal chubby kid with a curl in his hair. They later (1987) purchased the base franchise rights from Marriott and during the period in which they owned these rights, bought out the Elby’s Big Boy restaurants in West Virginia, eastern Ohio, and western Pennslyvania.

There were several franchise owners who put their name on the Big Boy Restaurants they operated. Already mentioned are Kip’s, Azar’s, Frisch’s, Shoney’s, Elias Brothers, and Elby’s – others are Abdow’s, Franklin’s, JB’s, Lendy’s, Manner’s, Marc’s, and VIP’s. I very much doubt that this list is complete.
chezkatie
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Tell Me About Places that are Gone 2004/01/29 10:26:27
Anyone out there remember theKapok Tree Inns in Florida? It seemed like everyone that ever went to Florida on a vacation just had to go there to eat! The food was ok but it was the decor that was much more impressive; also the line of people waiting to get in!
ardee
Cheeseburger
RE: Tell Me About Places that are Gone 2004/01/29 20:08:54
hungovergourmet,

You might also want to check the Roadfood.com thread titled "Long Gone Regional Chains" at http://www.roadfood.com/Forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=479 for more information about chains that are no longer around. There are 12 pages of posts in that thread.
Bushie
Filet Mignon
RE: Tell Me About Places that are Gone 2004/01/29 20:33:16
This is a place on old Route 66 that was one of my favorite hamburger joints when I was in high school/college. Long gone, but still remembered in Springfield, MO, as one of the "monuments".

http://www.birthplaceofroute66.com/bk1story.html
ocdreamr
Double Chili Cheeseburger
RE: Tell Me About Places that are Gone 2004/01/30 16:33:41
The Quintessential Baltimore Seafood house "Connely's" I remember going there with my parents. It was built out on a dock in the inner harbor (behind where the power plant & aquarium are today) The tables were covered in oilcloth. The food served was basic but good. Platters of padded fried oysters, crab cakes, softcrabs & rockfish. Whatever was in season(nothing frozen or imported). All served with simple sides of fresh tomatos in summer, cole slaw, fries or potato salad. Unfortunately Connely's had to make way for the project of the habor, it hung on as long as it could though. I think it closed sometime in the late 80's or early 90's
hungovergourmet
Cheeseburger
RE: Tell Me About Places that are Gone 2004/01/30 16:41:43
quote:
Originally posted by clothier

Not that this matters, but but Tony Michaels, the CEO of Big Boy, is a friend of a friend. he's a really nice guy, and is driven, I mean driven, to have Big Boy make a huge comeback.


'Greasy Spoon' -- a MO-based food newsletter -- did a write-up in their Winter 03 issue about the new Big Boys prototype in Grand Rapids. Here's a quote from a roving correspondent who visited the location: "It was great. It presents well both day & night and is a bright spot right at the end of an exit ramp in downtown. I stopped by three different times of the day and each time there was a wait for seating."
hungovergourmet
Cheeseburger
RE: Tell Me About Places that are Gone 2004/01/30 16:43:43
quote:
Originally posted by ardee

hungovergourmet,

You might also want to check the Roadfood.com thread titled "Long Gone Regional Chains" at http://www.roadfood.com/Forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=479 for more information about chains that are no longer around. There are 12 pages of posts in that thread.


Will do Ardee! Why do I think I might have to double the page count of this issue thanks to all of this amazing feedback?!
hungovergourmet
Cheeseburger
RE: Tell Me About Places that are Gone 2004/01/30 16:47:08
It wasn't quite road food (since none of us had cars at the time) but when I was in college in Philadelphia, there was this place called 'Troys' that we'd always go to. They served the best "eggels" which were egg sandwiches with your choice of meat on a toasted bagel.

They also had refrigerated case after refrigerated case of beer and you could grab a pint or two, order and eggel and have a seat to watch the black and white TV that got horrible reception or listen to the boombox that somebody would inevitably tune in to the college radio station where we worked.
oldfrt
Cheeseburger
RE: Tell Me About Places that are Gone 2004/01/31 13:48:41
Hey SAPS, do you remember King Arthurs Pub which I think was also on Wells? Had the greatest bar where you could get a "yard" of beer (or a half or quater yard) and then stick around for a great steak dinner (after work). If I remember right they even had a limo that would come and pick you up (in the loop area only).

Also, the "Top of the Rock" in the Prudential building by Grant Park. Had the greatest Chateau Briand in the world and a view to go along with it. Used to have dinner there and then head to the Playboy Club for some good Jazz and a couple drinks. Regarding the Playboy Club (which is also gone) if it was a guys night out on a Saturday we would hang around till 5AM when they served pizza for breakfast and you could actually dance with the bunnies!

Ahhh, those were the days. (Back in the 60's)

Don
oldfrt
Cheeseburger
RE: Tell Me About Places that are Gone 2004/01/31 14:00:23
CLOTHIER - When I lived in Fenton MI we used to go to a great gourmet restaurant in the Holly Hotel. Is that still there? Also had quite a few good dinners in the Fenton Hotel (I think that is still there as I stopped in for a few "Pops" a couple years ago when I was there on business. The Fenton Hotel was a lively place at the bar on Friday nights where you always met up with the "locals".

Don
Michael Hoffman
Double-chop Porterhouse
RE: Tell Me About Places that are Gone 2004/01/31 15:40:45
quote:
Originally posted by chezkatie

Anyone out there remember the Kapok Tree Inns in Florida? It seemed like everyone that ever went to Florida on a vacation just had to go there to eat! The food was ok but it was the decor that was much more impressive; also the line of people waiting to get in!


My wife and I went to the Kapok tree near Clearwater once. When we got into the parking lot we saw all these old folks going in and coming out, dressed to the nines. In fact, it looked like a sea of blue from the hair on the women. We didn't stay.
chicagostyledog
Filet Mignon
RE: Tell Me About Places that are Gone 2004/01/31 15:57:13
In Chicago: The Ranch on Devon, Henry's Drive-In, Sam & Hy's Deli, Joe Stein's Steak House, Buffalo's Ice Cream, Thompson's, and Hot Dog Island.
oldfrt
Cheeseburger
RE: Tell Me About Places that are Gone 2004/01/31 16:25:17
Chicagostyledog, I remember both Henry's and Buffalo's. There was a Henry's Drive in next to a quickly growing chain, can't remember the name but they had "golden arches", on Cicero Avenue just South of Montrose. I think the Golden Arch joint stated "Over ten thousand Sold" back then.

Don
oldfrt
Cheeseburger
RE: Tell Me About Places that are Gone 2004/01/31 18:21:30
Another one: Chicaqo South Side, the Beverly House, great dinners and nice bar. 103rd and Vincennes. Would go there for lunches with my boss from Beverly Bank and plow down a few Martini's.

The "Arc" out on Milwaukee Avenue (way out) that had great fried chicken.

Recent: "Juicy Lucy's" Hamburgers. RT43 towards Milwaukee at RT50. Burgers were "OK" but used to buy coffee mugs with their name on it for conversation pieces.

Phoenix: Giovanni's Pizza Cottage on Indian School Road, Rocky's Hideaway (converted house and fantastic steaks). Classy! The Luau on Indian School, Keyboard Lounge on Camelback.

Great topic. Brings back a lot of memories for all of us I'm sure!

Don

Route 11
Double Cheeseburger
RE: Tell Me About Places that are Gone 2004/02/01 10:37:05
And yet another: Ciro's Pizza in Russell, MA. I wouldn't eat eggplant parmigian until my mother gave me a taste of theirs. Cool restaurant in a gorgeous setting, sadly gone with the wind.
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