Secret Weapon In Your Texas Red Chili

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scrumptiouschef
Double Cheeseburger
2010/11/17 20:57:17
I know there are a lot of chili styles but this thread shall be devoted to Texas Red.While the rules have long been established
http://www.scrumptiousche...xas-Red?adminview=true
 
I just finished a bowl so good that I had to share a secret weapon a friend of mine used that really took the chili to the next level: Coffee, a big cup of hot coffee poured in at the beginning of the simmering stage.
 
What is your secret weapon when you're making this Texas classic?
PapaJoe8
Sirloin
Re:Secret Weapon In Your Texas Red Chili 2010/11/17 22:58:17
Great question Schef!!!
If anyone can come up w/ somethin new, after reading the chili section here at Roadfood and taking all the links, they would surely deserve a prize! This is the very best place to research chili info that there is IMHO. You will hear things at Roadfood that have never been told anywhere else. Shhh!
 
Ok, my secret.... Corn Tortillas, 2 per lb. of meat. Nothing new though. I think I told that secret here back in ??? 2005.
 
Can someone come up w/ a chili secret that has not been already told here at Roadfood?
Joe
Michael Hoffman
Double-chop Porterhouse
Re:Secret Weapon In Your Texas Red Chili 2010/11/17 23:06:12
PapaJoe8

Can someone come up w/ a chili secret that has not been already told here at Roadfood?
Joe

Finely diced chipmunk tongues that have been marinated in ancho chile powder and balsamic vinegar.
bartl
Double Chili Cheeseburger
Re:Secret Weapon In Your Texas Red Chili 2010/11/17 23:38:14
My problem with adding tortilla chips to the recipe was that it is virtually impossible to find unsalted tortilla chips, and, if you do, they are expensive as all get-out. For years, I balked at buying masa harina for my chili, as the smallest amount I could buy was 5 pounds. Then I realized that the 5 pound bag was only a couple of bucks, so I would buy it, fill a quart container, and toss the rest. 1-2 teaspoons per gallon of chili does the trick, so I still end up throwing out some when the expiration date comes.
 
Bart
Michael Hoffman
Double-chop Porterhouse
Re:Secret Weapon In Your Texas Red Chili 2010/11/17 23:51:04
PapaJoe8

Michael, we have some rare " Black Phase" Possums in my neighborhood. And I am a member of the Opossum Society of the United States.

Eat Turkeys... not Possums!

I would never eat Opossum Chili. How bout yall???

And, we do not condone nor encourage the keeping of Opossums as pets.
Joe



How about that. I'm a member of the Armadillo Breeders Association of America. And I'm also a Turtle. Are you a Turtle?

Michael Hoffman
Double-chop Porterhouse
Re:Secret Weapon In Your Texas Red Chili 2010/11/17 23:52:52
Twinwillow

Michael, have you ever been tempted to use some Chipmunk Helper?


Nope. Never.
MellowRoast
Double Chili Cheeseburger
Re:Secret Weapon In Your Texas Red Chili 2010/11/18 02:13:13
As I read down into this thread, I suddenly started losing my appetite for chili.
Foodbme
Porterhouse
Re:Secret Weapon In Your Texas Red Chili 2010/11/18 02:36:45
This topic has been discussed on many other threads ad nauseam. Use the Search Function. 
edwmax
Double Chili Cheeseburger
Re:Secret Weapon In Your Texas Red Chili 2010/11/18 10:24:46
Use of coffee is not new.  I have seen it listed in old chuck wagon/trail drive (100 yr old) recipes. The cook reused coffee in chili, cooking in the dutch-oven while driving the wagon.  ... Coffee & chocolate has been used in winning championship chili contest.
bdtn
Hamburger
Re:Secret Weapon In Your Texas Red Chili 2010/11/18 10:24:58
a can of good dog food the alpo classic chuncky beef is real good.
scrumptiouschef
Double Cheeseburger
Re:Secret Weapon In Your Texas Red Chili 2010/11/18 10:39:31
Just got off the phone with a buddy who's been a chef since the mid 80's. He affirms that good, 70% chocolate is one of his secret weapons when he's making a big bowl of red.
 
I like to make a stock out of smoked pigs feet as a base for my red.
 
Used to be plenty places out here in Austin that served a good bowl but it's definitely getting harder to find.
fishtaco
Double Cheeseburger
Re:Secret Weapon In Your Texas Red Chili 2010/11/18 10:41:34
Michael Hoffman

PapaJoe8

Michael, we have some rare " Black Phase" Possums in my neighborhood. And I am a member of the Opossum Society of the United States.

Eat Turkeys... not Possums!

I would never eat Opossum Chili. How bout yall???

And, we do not condone nor encourage the keeping of Opossums as pets.
Joe



How about that. I'm a member of the Armadillo Breeders Association of America. And I'm also a Turtle. Are you a Turtle?

You bet your sweet azz I am.
Michael Hoffman
Double-chop Porterhouse
Re:Secret Weapon In Your Texas Red Chili 2010/11/18 11:07:40
I'll be damned!
PapaJoe8
Sirloin
Re:Secret Weapon In Your Texas Red Chili 2010/11/18 12:06:42
Schef... "70% chocolate" Can you explain what this is in detail? And approxamatly how much to add? Hmm, a chili that containes 70% chocolate might make a good desert??? :~)
 
Michael and Bdtn, as Brenda the Closer would say "Thank You Sooo Much" for your input here.
 
The thing about "secret" chili ingredients is that you have to use such small amounts so that they can not be noticed by most folks... but enough to change the flavor of the chili. If it WAS noticeable then... it would not be a secret... for long anyway.
 
Batl, corn tortillas, not tortilla chips. Corn tortillas are not salted. I guess I should have said ... Soft Corn Tortillas. They are just easier than mixing the masa and add a flavor I like.
 
FoodB, I know this subject has been talked about allot here but maybe there is something new? I started a "wierd things" thread years ago that had lotsa  good info.
 
Here is one... Soy Sauce. Oh, I already said this could maybe have been a secret ingredient in Shanghai Jimmy's chili at the Jimmy's thread. Shanghai / Soy Sauce/ maybe??? Others doubt this is true but... I liked in my Chili Rice Chili sooo. Just 1 Tablespoon per lb. of meat. You can just add some Soy Sauce to a small amount of chili and see if they like it. It, like pickled jalapeno juice, blends in right away.
 
I might be a Turtle and not know it? Does this mean I'm kinda hard shelled???
Joe
post edited by PapaJoe8 - 2010/11/18 12:11:04
Michael Hoffman
Double-chop Porterhouse
Re:Secret Weapon In Your Texas Red Chili 2010/11/18 12:23:21
It means you cannot be given an answer to your question.
Re:Secret Weapon In Your Texas Red Chili 2010/11/18 12:23:44
Michael Hoffman

PapaJoe8

Can someone come up w/ a chili secret that has not been already told here at Roadfood?
Joe

Finely diced chipmunk tongues that have been marinated in ancho chile powder and balsamic vinegar.

Good only if the Chipmunk is caught by hand, no shooting ot trapping, as that leaves a bad taste in their mouths.

Mosca
Filet Mignon
Re:Secret Weapon In Your Texas Red Chili 2010/11/18 12:34:22
Michael Hoffman

PapaJoe8

Can someone come up w/ a chili secret that has not been already told here at Roadfood?
Joe

Finely diced chipmunk tongues that have been marinated in ancho chile powder and balsamic vinegar.

 
Sweet.
 
For mine, it's dried pizza crusts.
post edited by Mosca - 2010/11/18 12:36:15
Re:Secret Weapon In Your Texas Red Chili 2010/11/18 12:38:26
I'm sorry but the recipe first given is weak, no Cumin, no chili.
I make it with Brisket, bottom round, 80-20 gb, s&p, garlic, oregano, ancho chili, cumin, paparika, cayenne, beef stock, tomato sauce, tomato fillets.
fishtaco
Double Cheeseburger
Re:Secret Weapon In Your Texas Red Chili 2010/11/18 15:35:30
Michael Hoffman

I'll be damned!

 
It's been a very  long time since I had heard that one.

Michael Hoffman
Double-chop Porterhouse
Re:Secret Weapon In Your Texas Red Chili 2010/11/18 15:40:31
chewingthefat

Michael Hoffman

PapaJoe8

Can someone come up w/ a chili secret that has not been already told here at Roadfood?
Joe

Finely diced chipmunk tongues that have been marinated in ancho chile powder and balsamic vinegar.

Good only if the Chipmunk is caught by hand, no shooting ot trapping, as that leaves a bad taste in their mouths.

I always shoot mine. I hit them right where the head joins the neck, and with a high-velocity hollow-point .22 Long Rifle it pops the head right off -- no time for them to get a bad taste.

Michael Hoffman
Double-chop Porterhouse
Re:Secret Weapon In Your Texas Red Chili 2010/11/18 15:44:50
fishtaco

Michael Hoffman

I'll be damned!


It's been a very  long time since I had heard that one.

You must be hanging out with the wrong people.
scrumptiouschef
Double Cheeseburger
Re:Secret Weapon In Your Texas Red Chili 2010/11/19 11:37:16
Papa Joe
Glad to see a Texas hound offering some valuable information on a topic we take seriously out here in the Great State.
 
http://www.chocolate.com/...te-by-the-numbers.html
 
Here's a good primer on chocolate. My buddy who's earned his living in kitchens since the 80's told me he puts a tablespoon of 70% powdered chocolate per gallon of chili.
 
Otherwise the standard protocols of Texas Red are followed.
 
I've experimented a little with soy sauce. One Tablespoon per gallon of homemade stock does give a little backbone to the affair. It seems to magnify the existing flavors.
 
Never tried it with Texas Red though.
PapaJoe8
Sirloin
Re:Secret Weapon In Your Texas Red Chili 2010/11/19 14:08:21
Schef, my earlier comments about Soy Sauce may have been unclear and a bit off topic. I have only used this in my Chili Rice chili. Dispite what some folks in Louisianna think... this is also a true Texas dish. But, as everyone knows... it is not Texas Red.
 
Ok, secret weapon for Texas Red. Holding a BIG knife when you ask folks if they like your Texas Red chili always helps. :~). Ok, seriously... the Mr. Woods winning Terlingua chili secret weapons were Chicken Broth and... Celery. Benny Binion's Real Texas Chili secret weapon was Japanese peppers.
 
My only secret weapon, that I stumbled onto while trying to duplicate Benny Benion's chili, is... La Costina Chipolte Peppers. Carefull cause these are strong!
Joe
boyardee65
Double Chili Cheeseburger
Re:Secret Weapon In Your Texas Red Chili 2010/11/19 14:45:24
 I use chipotle peppers in my Red but my "secret" ingredient is about 1/2 tsp of fresh ground cinnamon for a 6 qt. batch. It pairs very well with the sharpness of ground cumin. I like to use 7 bone chuck steak for the meat because I like the fattiness. I use the drippings to cook the rest of the veggies. A bottle of Sam Adams or Shiner Bock is also staple for me.
 
  David O.
fishtaco
Double Cheeseburger
Re:Secret Weapon In Your Texas Red Chili 2010/11/19 14:49:22
Michael Hoffman

fishtaco

Michael Hoffman

I'll be damned!


It's been a very  long time since I had heard that one.

You must be hanging out with the wrong people.

 
I must not be hanging out with any turtles anyway!

Twinwillow
Sirloin
Re:Secret Weapon In Your Texas Red Chili 2010/11/19 15:19:27
bdtn

a can of good dog food the alpo classic chuncky beef is real good.

 

Twinwillow
Sirloin
Re:Secret Weapon In Your Texas Red Chili 2010/11/19 15:21:00
MSG!
edwmax
Double Chili Cheeseburger
Re:Secret Weapon In Your Texas Red Chili 2010/11/19 15:39:52
fishtaco

Michael Hoffman

fishtaco

Michael Hoffman

I'll be damned!


It's been a very  long time since I had heard that one.

You must be hanging out with the wrong people.


I must not be hanging out with any turtles anyway!

 
YBYSAIA
Cosmos
Double Chili Cheeseburger
Re:Secret Weapon In Your Texas Red Chili 2010/11/19 16:59:25
boyardee65

 I use chipotle peppers in my Red but my "secret" ingredient is about 1/2 tsp of fresh ground cinnamon for a 6 qt. batch. It pairs very well with the sharpness of ground cumin. I like to use 7 bone chuck steak for the meat because I like the fattiness. I use the drippings to cook the rest of the veggies. A bottle of Sam Adams or Shiner Bock is also staple for me.

David O.
No secret, because I use the Dinosaur BBQ cookbook, but a stick of cinnamon goes in while it simmers...the finish is the juice of a half a lime and 2 tablespoons of dried oregano...killer.. (IMO). I also use chuck, but the whole thing gets started with bacon...just for the fat to cook in, the resulting bacon is for snacking while it cooks.

Twinwillow
Sirloin
Re:Secret Weapon In Your Texas Red Chili 2010/11/19 18:13:42
I second the cinnamon as well.
 
Re:Secret Weapon In Your Texas Red Chili 2010/11/20 12:00:37
Twinwillow

I second the cinnamon as well.


Your talking Cincinnati Chili.

joerogo
Filet Mignon
Re:Secret Weapon In Your Texas Red Chili 2010/11/20 13:17:11
chewingthefat

Twinwillow

I second the cinnamon as well.


Your talking Cincinnati Chili.

 
Don't forget the celery!
Re:Secret Weapon In Your Texas Red Chili 2010/11/20 13:53:45
joerogo

chewingthefat

Twinwillow

I second the cinnamon as well.


Your talking Cincinnati Chili.


Don't forget the celery!

I always have a stalk or two in my pocket.!

PapaJoe8
Sirloin
Re:Secret Weapon In Your Texas Red Chili 2010/11/21 15:13:49
 Only 1/2 tsp, you'd never guess the cinnamon was in there! But... it will change tha flavor.
 
Chewer... shhh, about secret Cincinnati Chili stuff! They keep that behind locked vaults for a reason.
 
Joe, now that is a smart idea!
 
And Chewer... you a wise cookie! Just one of the many reasons I can think of is that you never know when you might be offered a Buffalo Wing w/ no celery! Blue cheese is kinda hard to keep in your pocket so U gotta take your chinces w/ that. :~*#@
Joe
drummagick
Cheeseburger
Re:Secret Weapon In Your Texas Red Chili 2010/11/21 15:34:31
A wee bit of chocolate.  Maybe the equivalent of 1/3 - 1/2 of one of those squares of baker's chocolate to a 4 qt crockpot.
 
No tomatoes ever.  Toasted, then soaked, then pureed and strained chiles, mostly New Mexico but whatever else I can get my hands on too.  I live in an area with a large Hispanic population and so have access to all kinds of different chiles.  I love some chipotle chile in my chili too.
 
When the sauteed veggies of whatever kind are almost done, sprinkle the cumin in too and let it saute a bit.
 
I'm going to try the pinch of cinnamon next time I make chili, that does sound good.  Maybe an even smaller pinch of clove too.
 
 
 
 
MellowRoast
Double Chili Cheeseburger
Re:Secret Weapon In Your Texas Red Chili 2010/11/21 15:50:59
How about that.  I just knew there was another use for my Dunkin' Donuts coffee that I hadn't thought of.
MellowRoast
Double Chili Cheeseburger
Re:Secret Weapon In Your Texas Red Chili 2010/11/21 17:36:59
I'll have to think on the cinnamon for a while, though.
edwmax
Double Chili Cheeseburger
Re:Secret Weapon In Your Texas Red Chili 2010/11/21 19:06:53
MellowRoast

I'll have to think on the cinnamon for a while, though.

 
Ketchup & most all BBQ sauces have cinnamon in them.   If a BBQ place adds cinnamon in their dry rub or to their sauce to the point I can taste it, then it's heat burn time for me.  .... I don't have to think about it, I don't like cinnamon add to my BBQ or chilli. 
bartl
Double Chili Cheeseburger
Re:Secret Weapon In Your Texas Red Chili 2010/11/21 21:40:18
Vegemite.
MellowRoast
Double Chili Cheeseburger
Re:Secret Weapon In Your Texas Red Chili 2010/11/22 07:06:57
chewingthefat 
I always have a stalk or two in my pocket.!

Does that make you a stalker? " />
Curbside Grill
Filet Mignon
Re:Secret Weapon In Your Texas Red Chili 2010/11/22 07:53:53
My secret is THE SOURCE
Blow your socks off
http://www.hotsauceworld.com/source.html
mar52
Sirloin
Re:Secret Weapon In Your Texas Red Chili 2010/11/22 10:06:50
Hot sauce or concentrated chile oils work for heat.
 
I used to use a drop or two of Dave's Insanity for heat. Then I realized I liked the taste of the chile powders better without the added heat.
 
I think what makes my chili taste good is that I use lard to brown the meat and I always take the pan off the heat when I add the chile powders.  They scorch easily and that can ruin the taste of the entire dish.
scrumptiouschef
Double Cheeseburger
Re:Secret Weapon In Your Texas Red Chili 2012/12/19 22:38:06
Anybody in Austin reading? Savory Spice Shop on w.6th street is a dynamite secret weapon. They're nut jobs for fresh spices, grinding in-house and featuring tons of oddball spices.
Cosmos
Double Chili Cheeseburger
Re:Secret Weapon In Your Texas Red Chili 2012/12/20 22:11:34
MellowRoast

I'll have to think on the cinnamon for a while, though.
Don't think about it ...toss one in and give it a try...of course the squeeze of lime at the end with oregano rounds out the aromatics...and balances the cinnamon.

JRPfeff
Filet Mignon
Re:Secret Weapon In Your Texas Red Chili 2012/12/20 22:20:37
Does anyone have a basic, "can't miss" recipe for Texas Red?  We bought a variety of chili powder blends from Pendrey's and want to compare them without a bunch of variables in the recipe complicating things.
scrumptiouschef
Double Cheeseburger
Re:Secret Weapon In Your Texas Red Chili 2012/12/21 11:24:51
JRPfeff

Does anyone have a basic, "can't miss" recipe for Texas Red?  We bought a variety of chili powder blends from Pendrey's and want to compare them without a bunch of variables in the recipe complicating things.

 
I humbly submit, the following,basic,authentic Texas Red Chili recipe http://www.scrumptiousche...hentic-Texas-Red-Chili no onions,no tomatoes, it's genuine. Please put on an old Ernest Tubb lp and squint toward San Angelo whilst cooking.
JRPfeff
Filet Mignon
Re:Secret Weapon In Your Texas Red Chili 2012/12/21 11:57:35
s-chef,
 
Thanks for the recipe link.  That is close to what we have been using, no tomatoes, but we use onions. 
 
I always thought tomatoes were a part of chili, and have seen some "Texas Red" recipes that use tomatoes.  I like that your version doesn't use them.  I find that tomatoes make chili too acidic for my taste and leaving them out helps me better enjoy the different flavors of the chili blends I purchased.
 
jrp
scrumptiouschef
Double Cheeseburger
Re:Secret Weapon In Your Texas Red Chili 2012/12/21 12:15:00
Please do not cook with the onions. Use them as a garnish, it makes a big difference, removes the sweet notes that cloud the chili.
Mosca
Filet Mignon
Re:Secret Weapon In Your Texas Red Chili 2012/12/21 17:36:01
My real secret is to cook the meat over an open flame. If I'm using ground beef I make burgers, then chop them up into the chili; if I'm using whole beef, I slice steaks, grill them then cube them into the pot.
scrumptiouschef
Double Cheeseburger
Re:Secret Weapon In Your Texas Red Chili 2012/12/22 02:14:08
Love it, great secret weapon. Par grill and/or smoke your meats. I've done it. Love the subtle smoke flavor it gives.
dimmie2
Cheeseburger
Re:Secret Weapon In Your Texas Red Chili 2012/12/22 18:09:45
Absolutely no cinnamon in my chili.
I think the worst thing the butcher shop makes is chili meat.  Too much fat and gristle.
 
I prefer a bit of onion, garlic and tomatoes (or tomato sauce) in mine.  I don't care for a thick, heavy meat only chili, so if eaten alone, I always add beans. 
 
When my kids were small, they didn't like the tomato based spaghetti sauces, so I always made a pot of chili to use instead.  They still like it that way.
 
If it's in the house, a partial can of coke is good for a change in flavor.
popeofchilitown
Junior Burger
Re:Secret Weapon In Your Texas Red Chili 2013/01/07 23:21:49
Short time lurker, first time poster here.
Just finished a batch of my first true Texas Red. By true I mean no onion, no celery, no tomato, dried chiles... Felt weird at first, but tastedgoodman.
 
My 'secret' weapons in it (along with any chili) are equal parts chuck  pork smoked brisket, instant coffee,dirty chocolate 70% , cayenne pepper, and sometimes just a small splash of good European cider vinegar. Always a bottle of premium lager, always room temperature. I also have a bag of dried ghost peppers that are surprisingly weak, but I threw one in just because anchos are hard to find where I am.
 
Cheers!