Hot!1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build

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reese77
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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2013/02/10 12:18:19
The original electric tankless unit would draw too much power and I wanted to try to switch to propane but routing gas lines would be an issue not to mention venting on the serving side which I am OK with now. However I purchased a Ariston GL6+ as it is used by a food truck company here in Atlanta. I read online that it is 12.5GPH but other specs say it is just 7GPH. I have to prove to my HD that it is more than 10GPH which is what they require.
 
Chasen, it is good to hear that your truck will run on the one EU3000I. Do you have a list of your electrical equipment? Is that including running an AC unit?
chasendad
Hamburger
Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2013/02/10 21:38:22
Right now it has the Water pump, water heater, 2 vent fans, 48" prep station,
2-4' flouesnt lights, 2- outside lights..
I still have to add the true T-19 refrig. but hope it still runs with that..
I didn't put an A/C on it , we have a portable A/C that we used in the other truck we had.. In the summer there is NO way to keep the truck cool so we chose the portable a/c so we could direct it where we want it.
I have someone coming to look at mine tomorrow, they need a truck to use in Dallas and mine should only need an Ansul system installed to make it pass Dallas..
 
reese77
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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2013/02/12 12:59:58
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post edited by reese77 - 2013/02/12 13:13:34
cue
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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2013/02/14 21:41:59
I was really interested in the inverter system.  May I ask why it wouldnt work?
reese77
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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2013/02/14 22:02:37
cue

I was really interested in the inverter system.  May I ask why it wouldnt work?

 
Over time it would have cost me more money to maintain it, I would not handle extended operation (long days). The recharge time was too long. I like solar and wind and I am trying to convert my house so the batteries and inverted will get put to good use if I can't sell it.
OurCoffeeTruck
Hamburger
Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2013/02/16 12:39:16
Man, that stinks. I was rooting for those batteries! How much are you asking for batteries and all? Do you think you could just get a small generator to trickle charge the batteries all day? The generators just seem to burn through a ton of gas. I guess I have to work through the numbers again , but it just seems like the payoff in savings from batteries would add up Really quickly. At least for us the numbers seemed to work a couple months ago last I ran them.
reese77
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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2013/02/16 18:16:05
Coffee,
 
I will be using 2 PH2700PRI generators, quiet and 8hrs on one gallon of gas. Similar to the Honda EU models. I have the inverter listed on CL and on Ebay for $500 and I am selling the batteries for $100 on CL (local pick up).
reese77
Double Cheeseburger
Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2013/02/16 22:06:32
I am going to run the gas line underneath my truck from driver side to passenger to serve the new LP tankless heater. I do not have the tools to thread the black gas pipe and I am not spending another couple hundred to have the plumber come back out. I have been reading online that I can use CSST and it is safe to run up through floors, etc. has anyone used this on a truck instead of black pipe?

chasendad
Hamburger
Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2013/02/17 08:03:05
Thats what I used to vonnect my equipment from the black pipe..4'pieces..
reese77
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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2013/02/17 08:16:31
chasendad

Thats what I used to vonnect my equipment from the black pipe..4'pieces..

 
I am going to run this under my truck through the floor beams then bend and come up through the floor using the termination fitting (below) at the floor. I found more information on CSST last night and running it versus the black pipe will be within code.
 

RodBangkok
Cheeseburger
Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2013/02/17 15:24:25
I might suggest you also help protect it with a flex tubing something like this:
http://www.homedepot.com/...-tubing-12008-025.html
If not for the full run then use it where there are corners that could cause the gas hose to rub on corners and such.  
daddywoofdawg
Cheeseburger
Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2013/02/17 15:47:43
Yes I would protect the tubing anywhere road trash may hit it and any rubbing on the frame.
RodBangkok
Cheeseburger
Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2013/02/17 15:59:03
Just a question for you all, why are you using black pipe if the flex hose is within code?  It is so much easier to use than running hard pipe, I would have mentioned it somewhere earlier, but thought it was required to use black pipe for code.
reese77
Double Cheeseburger
Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2013/02/17 16:14:07
RodBangkok

I might suggest you also help protect it with a flex tubing something like this:
http://www.homedepot.com/...-tubing-12008-025.html
If not for the full run then use it where there are corners that could cause the gas hose to rub on corners and such.  

 
I will put putting 1" thick black foam pipe insulation around it before fitting it between the floor beams.
King3
Junior Burger
Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2013/02/19 09:46:04
reese77

cue

I was really interested in the inverter system.  May I ask why it wouldnt work?


Over time it would have cost me more money to maintain it, I would not handle extended operation (long days). The recharge time was too long. I like solar and wind and I am trying to convert my house so the batteries and inverted will get put to good use if I can't sell it.

 
Reese, why you are going to sell the inverter and batteries? Basically I'm doing my electrical design based on your experiences with this system. The fuel in my country is very expensive for a generator and this method can be much cheaper for me because I will use only about 1300-1600w. What problems do you have? How are you charging the batteries and how long it takes to charge? Why do you say it would cost more money to maintain it? I also want to use an inverter and batteries to work 6 hours at day and do not want to lose my money.
 
Regards.
drvp
Junior Burger
Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2013/02/19 11:22:20
Im interested as well- I have a bank of 4 6v interstate deep cycle HD bat run s/p which can be charged via shore power/gen/or off the vehicle alt when running.  the batt's are 232 ah each- have a 5000 watt inv-  and im running 2 refers at 7.5 a ea and a hood at 6 a continuous as well as other small misc - i also have quite a bit of 12 v stuff int/ext lighting /freezer /stereo  and by my calcs ill have plenty of power  
 
granted ill have to be watching things here and there and i do have the ability to switch on the built in genny- but i like the batt system i have- 
 
I am interested in your findings - is it that you think you will need to replace the batts every year? as soon as i can post pics i have some interesting dwgs of my system
reese77
Double Cheeseburger
Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2013/02/19 11:44:53
King3,
 
I would have to buy a large enough charger to charge my batteries within 8 hours. One of the 6 batteries would take 4.5hrs to charge at 40Amps. I have a 40Amp charger and a much larger one will cost alot more. The setup weighs almost 400lbs. The batteries behave differently based on the weather, and have less capacity if too hot or cold.
Gas is not that expensive here in GA and the inverter generator can run 8 hours on a gallon. I want to work more than 8hrs a day on some days. The inverter generator just seems more reliable.
 
I rushed to buy the setup as it was the only option that would fit in my under truck compartment and I did not want to mount anything on the rear deck. However, now after experiencing how quiet and portable/lightweight the inverter generators are and seeing 1 unit power other small food trucks, this is the option I chose.
 
This is just one of the many items I purchased and regretted later but the items are for sale now if interested.
King3
Junior Burger
Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2013/02/21 09:19:55
Reese, with which charger delays 4.5 hours? Still using the NOCO gen4? or are you using the solar charger?
OurCoffeeTruck
Hamburger
Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2013/02/23 15:15:45
Hey Reese I was looking through your pictures and noticed the floureacent overhead lights. I couldn't find in your posts why you didn't wind up going with the LEDs you had purchased from superbrightleds. Why didn't they work?
reese77
Double Cheeseburger
Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2013/02/23 22:33:09
OurCoffeeTruck

Hey Reese I was looking through your pictures and noticed the floureacent overhead lights. I couldn't find in your posts why you didn't wind up going with the LEDs you had purchased from superbrightleds. Why didn't they work?

 
I figured that the overhead florescent were cheaper and would not use much wattage and I would eventually replace the tubes with LED tubes. I used the LED strips for other things like illuminating my menu board. They would have worked.
reese77
Double Cheeseburger
Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2013/03/01 13:50:04
Convinced health department to review my plans before I find a commissary. I'm not going to pipe the new water heater until they approve.

 
Working on neglected cab interior and sound system.

 
One of my new generators arrived today.

post edited by reese77 - 2013/03/01 14:31:52
OurCoffeeTruck
Hamburger
Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2013/04/12 00:15:22
Reese, you selling food yet?!?!?!
reese77
Double Cheeseburger
Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2013/04/19 09:57:43
Thanks to Chasendad for printing my vinyl wrap and saving me some money. I started wrapping the truck on days when the pollen was not so high. This is tedious work and not a one man job. If it looks like there are discoloration or chips that is just pollen build up that I have not rinsed off yet.
 

 

 

reese77
Double Cheeseburger
Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2013/04/19 09:58:18
Thanks to Chasendad for printing my vinyl wrap and saving me some money. I started wrapping the truck on days when the pollen was not so high. This is tedious work and not a one man job. If it looks like there are discoloration or chips that is just pollen build up that I have not rinsed off yet.
 

 

 

reese77
Double Cheeseburger
Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2013/04/19 09:59:08
Thanks to Chasendad for printing my vinyl wrap and saving me some money. I started wrapping the truck on days when the pollen was not so high. This is tedious work and not a one man job. If it looks like there are discoloration or chips that is just pollen build up that I have not rinsed off yet.
 

 

 

reese77
Double Cheeseburger
Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2013/04/19 10:01:18
Thanks to Chasendad for printing my vinyl wrap and saving me some money. I started wrapping the truck on days when the pollen was not so high. This is tedious work and not a one man job. If it looks like there are discoloration or chips that is just pollen build up that I have not rinsed off yet.
 

 

 

reese77
Double Cheeseburger
Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2013/04/19 10:01:44
testing
stinger159
Junior Burger
Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2013/04/24 00:00:04
Truck looking good
randy1515
Junior Burger
Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2013/05/25 07:36:50
Just starting to look at P30 and international trucks to start a food truck business,  Going to do the builded myself.  Dose anyone know where I can find Box specs from the manufacturer.  I need to determine what size box would fit the restaurant fixtures, sort of map it out so Im not buying wrong size equipment.
 
Thanks
eric/Jenn
Junior Burger
Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2013/08/18 21:12:23
What plans though? I am not even sure the location of my hot areas compared to the cold ones? Not to mention I cna not even draw lol!
chefbuba

Don't know about your state, but here you can't build anything without having gone to the health dept first, and having your plans approved.
Regardless if it is required, it is a very good idea to submit a set of plans so you are not trying to build in the dark.
Do some reading of a guy named schmelly on here.... a perfect example of how not to do it.


eric/Jenn
Junior Burger
Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2013/08/18 21:19:06
So you will be using the DC power that will be sent to that nice inverter, then you will be plugging in your applianced into that inverter for the power to all DC correct?  I am not sure what all normally runs on dc verses ac. I assumed lighting is DC vents and appliances were ac as to not drain the batteries so fast.
reese77

Just got the information from tech support regarding the inverter and battery bank setup.

I will need (6) "T-105" 6 Volt 225 Amp Hour Deep Cycle Golf Cart Batteries.
Putting my amp hours at 1350 allowing me to be able to pull the full 8000 watts at 666 amp hours.

In order to achieve the 12V necessary to operate the  I will need to hook up the battery's series parallel meaning running 3 sets of 2.

Meaning I will need to connect the 3 sets of batteries somehow such as a terminal block or similar so that they are all as one.  From that terminal block you can run 4 200 amp fuses to each input to the inverter using 4awg wire (inverter has 4 separate inputs).

Basically the 3 set of battery banks need to be connected 3 into 1 and then the 4 inputs to the inverter need to be fused.

Charger:
The charger I will need is a smart charger and the Amp out will be determined on how long it will be on to replenish the battery for what you have taken out of it but not to exceed the 25% back into it.
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Based on the above, I need to only fuse the positive to the inverter correct?


eric/Jenn
Junior Burger
Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2013/08/18 21:23:30
in all honesty if I need to know a fraction of what you just said I should not be building a food truck your an Einstein! omg.
edwmax

Correction,   connecting 2 batteries in series to increase voltage does not increase AHr.   Therefore, two 6 volt batteries @ 225 AHr connected for 12 volts is still 225 AHR.    .... 6 batteries wired for 12 volt results in equivalent three 12 volt batteries @ 225 AHr.

redoing the calcs:
3 batteries @225 AHr =675 AHr
Inverter: 8000 watt @ 120 volt (output)= 800 watt @ 12 volt (input) = 66.67 amps   ... (Is 8000 watts the calculated load? Has efficiency losses been included?)

service time: 675 AHr / 66.67 amps = 10.12 hr
Efficiencies of the system was neglected, so I think your actual operating time will be about 6 to 7 1/2 hours (at full load), 60% to 75% efficiency of inverter, wiring, & motors.

Note efficiency of the battery is accounted for in its AHr rating. Which is 20 hours  of 100% loading or approx. 80% of battery capacity.     ... The above system will be depleted at 10.12 hours (80% discharge), At which time the batteries needs recharging.

*** my 2 cents and exercise for myself to understand.


gonzojuice
Hamburger
Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2013/09/09 02:18:08
Wait, Reese, this thing says its for liquid propane. I thought your system was vapor for some reason. I have purchased a vapor tank to mount to my frame. Will this be the wrong thing for my hot plate and griddle?
reese77
Double Cheeseburger
Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2013/09/09 11:07:00
gonzojuice

Wait, Reese, this thing says its for liquid propane. I thought your system was vapor for some reason. I have purchased a vapor tank to mount to my frame. Will this be the wrong thing for my hot plate and griddle?

 
My tank is vapor, vapor comes out the spout not liquid. I know they have the tanks that pull the actual liquid propane from the bottom of the tank but mine is not. I do not think your griddle runs on the actual "liquid" propane. From what I read vapor is used in appliances, other items that need 100K BTU or higher use the liquid version. All the tanks are liquid, the difference is whether the propane is drawn form the top of the tank (vapor) or bottom (liquid).
daddywoofdawg
Cheeseburger
Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2013/09/09 12:51:21
all propane is liquid till the pressure changes,then it turns to vapor/gas.the  term is LP=liquid propane/propane.
gonzojuice
Hamburger
Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2013/09/09 21:17:33
My tank is vapor, vapor comes out the spout not liquid. I know they have the tanks that pull the actual liquid propane from the bottom of the tank but mine is not. I do not think your griddle runs on the actual "liquid" propane. From what I read vapor is used in appliances, other items that need 100K BTU or higher use the liquid version. All the tanks are liquid, the difference is whether the propane is drawn form the top of the tank (vapor) or bottom (liquid).

Ok, yes. This makes perfect sense( I knew that the gas under pressure becomes liquid). I was just suddenly panicked that I had the wrong tank for delivery of said fuel. Daddywoofdog made it cleare for me with the definition of LP. Perfect sense.
gonzojuice
Hamburger
Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2013/09/10 00:03:38
I'm mostly sad right now because in the last few days I've had plumbing struggles. I was so confident with the bulkhead freshwater turned wastewater tank. I found the bulkheads at Home Depot(not 3", but 1 1/2", used an adapter for the waste out(to expand to three inches for my gate valve) and found it perfect for waste in( im using 1 1/2" from the sinks on down) Have no room for my fifteen gallon tank under the floor, so I put it on top of the floor( my stepvan box is only 10' x 6', a shorty). Also, don't worry about the smallness of my tank, I have run a ten gallon in the trailer for 2 1/2 years, and we have it down pat. My concern is because I'm not sure I'm getting a solid seal with the valve going through the floor on the bottom side. My rubber washer is inside the tank on the bulkhead fitting with the fitting going through a perfect hole in the floor and the plastic nut on the bottom. I used no further sealant or glue on this fixture and seal. The bulkhead fitting extends through from inside the tank to under the floor so I should only be concerned with tightness(squeezing the rubber washer to a seal?) and the plumbing underneath, right? Unfortunately I fitted out the rest of my water system before tasting this, and only discovered my fail after testing the system as a whole. Will post photos at thirty posts.
reese77
Double Cheeseburger
Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2013/09/10 10:39:03
gonzojuice

I'm mostly sad right now because in the last few days I've had plumbing struggles. I was so confident with the bulkhead freshwater turned wastewater tank. I found the bulkheads at Home Depot(not 3", but 1 1/2", used an adapter for the waste out(to expand to three inches for my gate valve) and found it perfect for waste in( im using 1 1/2" from the sinks on down) Have no room for my fifteen gallon tank under the floor, so I put it on top of the floor( my stepvan box is only 10' x 6', a shorty). Also, don't worry about the smallness of my tank, I have run a ten gallon in the trailer for 2 1/2 years, and we have it down pat. My concern is because I'm not sure I'm getting a solid seal with the valve going through the floor on the bottom side. My rubber washer is inside the tank on the bulkhead fitting with the fitting going through a perfect hole in the floor and the plastic nut on the bottom. I used no further sealant or glue on this fixture and seal. The bulkhead fitting extends through from inside the tank to under the floor so I should only be concerned with tightness(squeezing the rubber washer to a seal?) and the plumbing underneath, right? Unfortunately I fitted out the rest of my water system before tasting this, and only discovered my fail after testing the system as a whole. Will post photos at thirty posts.

 
I can't picture what you are talking about. Post your photos on flickr and send me the link and I can post here for you.
daddywoofdawg
Cheeseburger
Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2013/09/10 10:55:10
So what is the problem?
 
 
gonzojuice
Hamburger
Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2013/09/10 20:42:07
Problem is, i fear that the waste tank is leaking at the seal(bulkhead) where it goes through the floor(waste tank is inside the truck on the floor). I got the rest of my plumbing done and the sinks work now(except the hand sink I'm fashioning out of a third pan). Had some issues with my pump. Didn't seem to want to pump in just any orientation. Got it now though. I'll put pictures as soon as they will let me. Reese, I don't yet have a flicker acct but let me get some photos taken and I will make one. Thank you everyone for your help. I have been in the food trailer business for nearly three years and have found that the culture is to not help each other and lie to each other. I despise this and always offer help and constructive advice to others. It's the only way it should be.
gonzojuice
Hamburger
Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2013/09/13 01:19:08
Never mind. All is fine. I figured it all out. I built the cabinet and counter top today. Challenging. Looks good though
gonzojuice
Hamburger
Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2013/09/14 01:54:11
Nobody responds
gonzojuice
Hamburger
Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2013/09/14 01:54:39
Pictures
gonzojuice
Hamburger
Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2013/09/14 01:54:51
Pictures
gonzojuice
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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2013/09/14 01:55:10
Pictures
gonzojuice
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Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2013/09/14 01:55:29
Pictures
gonzojuice
Hamburger
Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2013/09/14 01:59:48
Just trying to whore to thirty so I can post photos of my build. I am jonesin for some forum convo and have been checking while building. My build is in a rush, as was the first(40 days from conception to open, from the moment I thought "ya ima do it" to "can I take your order?"). Impatient, I am.
CajunKing
Sirloin
Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2013/09/14 17:24:06
Through the week many are busy with work.
 
Why dont you start your own thread about your idea and your truck, break it into smaller segments and then you will reach your post total and be able to post the pictures, and you dont step on someone elses thread about their own build.
gonzojuice
Hamburger
Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2013/09/14 21:11:53
Thank you, Cajun king. That is a good idea. Sorry to have hijacked your thread, Reese. I really have enjoyed your build and look forward to more pictures and updates.
THE WILD DOG
Double Chili Cheeseburger
Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2013/09/15 09:24:02
we all hijack Reese's threads at some time or another :-)
CajunKing
Sirloin
Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2013/09/15 18:28:36
Yes we do
 
reese77
Double Cheeseburger
Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2013/09/20 19:23:55
Does anyone's truck feel like it's going to tip over when turning corners? My truck is very rocky, I am going to take it to the shop to have the suspension updated.
THE WILD DOG
Double Chili Cheeseburger
Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2013/09/22 01:50:39
depends, Most of the times NO. However if I hit a ditch driving in soime grass field, yes it rocks... or if I'm goign around turns on the beltway it can feel weird. I tried to space mine out to even out the weight.     I've had a few moments where I thought i'd have to stop for new shorts though.  
eric/Jenn
Junior Burger
Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2013/09/22 10:11:49
do you have covers made for the deep fryers? Or do you completley empty them at the end of each day prior to moving the trucks?
gonzojuice
Hamburger
Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2013/09/22 12:08:01
Some smart people have covers and some will empty half to two thirds way. Unfortunately even with covers you still have to empty some out or it will slosh around and knock the covers out. An oil drain pan(with a spout on one end, like for an automobile oil) and a sealable container(made of metal) works well. I have seen a double cover system that work pretty well.
daddywoofdawg
Cheeseburger
Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2013/09/24 00:13:58
do people build there own covers or is there somewhere you can buy?
kapowtruck
Cheeseburger
Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2013/09/26 17:47:07
reese77

Does anyone's truck feel like it's going to tip over when turning corners? My truck is very rocky, I am going to take it to the shop to have the suspension updated.

I have my guy looking at doing air lift suspension on my P30. He said it should handle the weight better and control the rocking on cornering.
 
~Thai Guy
Rcoy
Hamburger
Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2013/09/26 20:34:42
In my experience, air suspension does well at lifting but not so much for swaying. Is there a stock anti-sway bar on your truck? it might be as simple as getting a stiffer swaybar.
kapowtruck
Cheeseburger
Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2013/09/26 22:08:54
This will definitely help! 

 
reese77
Double Cheeseburger
Re:1993 Chevrolet P30 Food Truck Build 2013/10/01 19:05:30
For you guys up and operating, how far do you drive to from your commissary each day? I found a commissary in the next county over but it is about 30 minutes from where I will actually setup and sell each day.
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