There's no better eatin' than roast chicken.

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the ancient mariner
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There's no better eatin' than roast chicken. - Sat, 02/12/11 8:38 PM
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A long time ago I went to a cooking class conducted by Jacques Pepin. 
He said that it is a shame to overcook a chicken when it is
so easy to do it right.
 
I just cooked a chicken the way he advised, it's the only way I do it since that
night.  Close to 1000 by now, I guess.  Never had a bad bird.
 
Here is what I do.  Skin the chicken---not necessary it's up to you.
Melt 3 tablespoons butter.
Salt and pepper chicken.
Turn oven to 400 degrees.
Put chicken in a cast iron Frying pan on either the left or right side. 
Pour butter over the bird and stick it in the oven for 15 minutes.
Remove, turn it to the other side and baste with the butter,
Back into oven for 15 minutes.
Remove---put chick on it's back, baste and put in back in the oven for 30 minutes.
 
That is it----done, finie,  moist, tender, dee-licious and easy.
Don't forget to shut off the oven.
 
Pour the chardonnay.  A little dinner music-----Happy Valentine's day
to everyone------
 
 
 
 

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Re:There's no better eatin' than roast chicken. - Sat, 02/12/11 8:49 PM
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Ah Zio!  Almost every Sunday, as we were eating our homemade pasta.  My Mother would open her cast iron dutch oven and pull out a perfectly roasted chicken.  No butter though, all olive earl.

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Re:There's no better eatin' than roast chicken. - Sun, 02/13/11 5:35 AM
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Oh ancient one-about how many pounds was your chicken? Sounds dee-lish!

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Re:There's no better eatin' than roast chicken. - Sun, 02/13/11 4:02 PM
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Joe you were raised by good people------where did you go wrong?
Your Mother must have been a great cook---can't beat roast chicken.
 
Ann it was about 4 pounds.  And it was dee-lish.  A never fail recipe---no dried out meat.
 

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Re:There's no better eatin' than roast chicken. - Sun, 02/13/11 4:45 PM
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I'd agree with the joy of a good roast chicken.  I tried a new style last week, putting s & p, dried rosemary, a quartered onion and lemon and a whole bulb of garlic with the bottom sliced off in the cavity.  I usually cook them at 400 but did this one at 350 so the garlic steam would have time to permeate the flesh.  Yum!
 


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Re:There's no better eatin' than roast chicken. - Mon, 02/14/11 1:28 PM
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  YUM!!!  Nice pic Ruby. I am a big fan of beer but chicken. Same concept except you put the herbs and lemon in 1/2 can of beer and insert it into the cavity vertically. Roast as normal.
 
  David O.

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Re:There's no better eatin' than roast chicken. - Mon, 02/14/11 3:28 PM
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I love the one I got from America's Test Kitchen.  You brine it, butterfly it and put it on top of a broiler pan with a couple of TBSP of butter under the skin and a little olive oil rubbed all over.  On the bottom of the broiler pan is foil and 1/8 inch thick sliced yukon gold potatoes that drink up the chicken fat.  It is baked at a high temp (I think 500) and is done in about 45 minutes.  My family likes it so much that we actually had it for Christmas dinner one year ( I had to make 2).

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Re:There's no better eatin' than roast chicken. - Mon, 02/14/11 3:57 PM
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If I'm going to roast a chicken, I do it on my stovetop smoker (Cameron, although Alton Brown claims you can improvise one with a wok and a rack).
 
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Re:There's no better eatin' than roast chicken. - Mon, 02/14/11 4:57 PM
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Last summer I came up with what became known as Scarborough Fair chicken, as follows:
 
Walk thru the garden & grab some parsley, sage, rosemary & thyme.  Pulverize into a paste with garlic, olive oil, salt & pepper (basically pesto minus the cheese & pignoli).  Smear underneath the skin of a good quality chicken, then roast at as high a temp as you can -- I do it on a large covered charcoal grill with the bird offset from the coals.  Temp is around 500 degrees.  Fantastic skin, and the pesto both flavors the bird and insulates the breast a bit so it doesn't dry out under the high heat.

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Re:There's no better eatin' than roast chicken. - Mon, 02/14/11 6:39 PM
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I see I am not alone in my love for the roasted bird.  Lots of ways to cook them, too.  Since I have done it Jacques way for low these many years I shall continue that way-----but it is interesting to see how innovative you folks are.  Just had some nice white meat for dinner---and tomorrow all that remains goes into the pot with celery,an onion, a carrot and water plus some stock.  Rice is cooked seperately-----some herbs and some TLC and that little chicken will have  performed admirably. 

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Re:There's no better eatin' than roast chicken. - Mon, 02/14/11 11:26 PM
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Nothing can compare to a perfectly roasted chicken - I understand Mr Mariner wanting to continue cooking his the same way - a tried and true method that never disappoints. 
 
I've been cooking chickens on the grill for a long time but a few weeks ago with the weather being so nasty I did one in the oven very much like Mr Mariner - the only difference was I turned it breast side down after removing it from the oven to rest - somewhere I'd read that it redistributes the juices into the driest part of the bird - it did make a difference.
 
While it was roasting I made risotto and asparagus sauteed in butter and garlic - and uncorked a bottle of Sauvignon Blanc.  Maybe not the healthiest of dinners but it was perfect for a cold winters night.
 

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Re:There's no better eatin' than roast chicken. - Tue, 02/15/11 8:35 AM
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Brother Bailey----U R a gentleman, a scholar and a very smart hombre.

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Re:There's no better eatin' than roast chicken. - Tue, 02/15/11 1:28 PM
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Not to step on the senior Mariner's chicken but here is another tried and true roast chicken recipe.
 
It comes from Melinda Lee, a radio personality in the Los Angeles area.
 
Make sure that your oven vents properly because this can be a bit smokey.  I've never had a smoke problem, but I hear it can happen.
 

 

BLASTED CHICKEN

It's hard to believe that this works - but the result is a tender, moist chicken with crispy skin!
 
Wash, and pat very dry with paper towels, a whole chicken - about 3 1/2 pounds. Salt and pepper chicken, adding other seasonings, if desired.

Place chicken (un-trussed, not covered, in a roasting pan) in a thoroughly pre-heated 450-degree oven. Roast for 45 minutes. Thermometer, inserted in thickest part of thigh meat - not touching bone - should read 160 degrees or slightly higher.

Remove from oven and allow to stand 15 minutes before serving.

NOTE:
I tried this with a chicken weighing about one pound more than the example, so I left it in the oven for about 10 additional minutes and allowed it to stand for about 20 minutes.

If the chicken is stuffed before roasting, it will require an additional 15 minutes cooking time. Instant read thermometer should read 160 degrees, when inserted into the center of the stuffing.
 
Melinda Lee's radio show can be heard all over the country here Saturday and Sunday mornings:
 
http://cbsplayer.streamth....com/cbs_redirect.html
 
Her website is:  http://www.melindalee.com/index.php where you can find other recipes.
 
 
 
 
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Re:There's no better eatin' than roast chicken. - Tue, 02/15/11 1:46 PM
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I'll add another vote for the Blasted Chicken.
 
I've made it and it's very juicy.  Real easy to do.  No turning involved.
 
 
 

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Re:There's no better eatin' than roast chicken. - Tue, 02/15/11 4:43 PM
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I've had great success with Thomas Keller's "My favorite simple roast chicken recipe" from his "Ad Hoc" cookbook.
A 3-4 LB or more chicken that's been totally dried with paper towels inside and out and (preferably) left unwrapped in the fridge over night to dry out.
Pre heat the oven to 450 degrees.
Salt (Kosher is the best) a trussed chicken and simply put in the hot oven. Roast for one hour more or less depending on the size of your bird.
Let the bird rest for 10-15 minutes after taking it out of the oven. The bird comes out very crispy and juicy.
So, nothing "wet" comes into contact with the bird. No onion, garlic, lemon, herbs, butter, or oil.
You wont believe how good this chicken recipe is! And, so easy too. I do mine in a cast iron pan.
I prefer to use an organic 4-5 pound free roaming bird for it's delicious old fashioned flavor. But, you use what you like. Just follow the recipe. You can google this recipe and find it online.
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Re:There's no better eatin' than roast chicken. - Tue, 02/15/11 4:52 PM
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Further to the above - Thomas Keller's recipe can be found at Epicurious.com under "My favorite simple roast chicken recipe".
There are 431 5 star reviews for this roast chicken recipe.

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Re:There's no better eatin' than roast chicken. - Tue, 02/15/11 5:06 PM
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With everyone roasting chickens the market will be flooded.  There
will be shortage and a price increase----man that is bad news to us living from roasting pan to mouth.  So all you folk out there how about trying hamburgers instead.

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Re:There's no better eatin' than roast chicken. - Wed, 02/16/11 5:51 PM
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the ancient mariner


With everyone roasting chickens the market will be flooded.  There
will be shortage and a price increase----man that is bad news to us living from roasting pan to mouth.  So all you folk out there how about trying hamburgers instead.

What's the recipe for a hamburger?

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Re:There's no better eatin' than roast chicken. - Wed, 02/16/11 6:22 PM
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chewingthefat


the ancient mariner


With everyone roasting chickens the market will be flooded.  There
will be shortage and a price increase----man that is bad news to us living from roasting pan to mouth.  So all you folk out there how about trying hamburgers instead.

What's the recipe for a hamburger?

 


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Re:There's no better eatin' than roast chicken. - Sat, 02/19/11 7:28 PM
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All recipes on this thread sound great! I'm hungry for some roasted chicken now!!!
Joe

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Re:There's no better eatin' than roast chicken. - Sun, 02/20/11 9:00 AM
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Papa where ya been? 
I see that the smell of chickens being roasted has brought you out in full force.   Have to invest in another chicken soon Joe, the last one became a very good chicken soup and is now kaput.
 
Hamburgers is easy Chewy.  Ya throws a squished down handfull of chopped meat into a rec hot pan.  Put salt and pepper on the top.  Then when it is black on the bottom you flip it over and add a little more S&P.  Don't let it get too cooked  there Chewy, just black on the outside.  Slice open a hard roll (New York Style Roll, good stuff) and put the burger on it.  Add some lettuce, a slab of tomato and relax man--you dun cooked up a great meal.  Pass me a Bud will you Chewy. 
 

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Re:There's no better eatin' than roast chicken. - Sun, 02/20/11 4:52 PM
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Here's one I got today from All Recipes----try this on for size.
 
It has a little zing to it !!!!
 
Preheat oven to 450
Rinse 3/4# chicken under cold water, inside and out---remove all fat.
Pat dry with paper towels.
 
Put chicken into small roasting pan, rub with a tablespoon of Olive oil.
Mix 1/4 teaspoon each---salt, pepper, dried oregano, dried basil and paprika.  Add 1/8 teas. cayenne pepper. Sprinkle mix over the chicken.
 
Roast for 20 minutes, Lower oven to 400 and continue roasting for 40 more minutes.  Remove and let cool 10/15 minutes.
 
I have been told to let it stand breast down and the juices will flow into the white meat and keep it from drying out.
 
How's that Papa Joe----better than that old pork belly isn't it ???

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Re:There's no better eatin' than roast chicken. - Sun, 02/20/11 6:17 PM
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I will be trying kishkaeaters recipe tonight.

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Re:There's no better eatin' than roast chicken. - Sun, 02/20/11 6:30 PM
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Ann, it's very similar to my above Thomas Keller "dry" roasted chicken. I made a 4-1/2 pounder last night for friends and they thought it was wonderful.
 

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Re:There's no better eatin' than roast chicken. - Sun, 02/20/11 7:28 PM
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Yes, twinwillow, it is! I stuffed mine, so we will see how it turns out.Its in the oven now!

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Re:There's no better eatin' than roast chicken. - Sun, 02/20/11 7:36 PM
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Can anybody tell me where one can buy a 3 pound chicken? The chickens here in Northern New Jersey bottom out at about 4 pounds.
 
Bart

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Re:There's no better eatin' than roast chicken. - Sun, 02/20/11 8:58 PM
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Bartl---Cut the legs off a 4 pounder and you got a 3.  Then you have the legs for another occasion.  So simple, how did I think of it?
 
Actually I get all 4s also---but that means there is more to eat. 

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Re:There's no better eatin' than roast chicken. - Mon, 02/21/11 4:20 AM
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Tonight I cooked a stuffed 3.5 lb chicken at 450 for 1 hour. No moisture or spices on it. I have to say it was the best roast chicken I have had in years. Thanks to all for your suggestions and direction!!

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Re:There's no better eatin' than roast chicken. - Mon, 02/21/11 8:05 AM
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Way to go Ann. 
There ain't no better eatin' than roast Chicken !!! 
You can take it from me, The Ancient Mariner !!
 
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Re:There's no better eatin' than roast chicken. - Mon, 02/21/11 8:07 AM
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What I love about this is the fact that I can throw dinner together so quickly!!

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Re:There's no better eatin' than roast chicken. - Mon, 02/21/11 9:17 AM
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For those who prefer drumsticks/leg quarters or are less inclined to roast a whole chicken, I was given a drumstick rack for Christmas and am pretty happy with it.  The drumsticks hang down and some of the rendered fat drips into the pan; I like to put sliced potatoes in there so that they're flavored by the chicken and whatever seasonings were used.  The skin gets nice and crisp and while I've been using mine on the grill I'm sure it would work just fine in an oven.
 
Brad

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Re:There's no better eatin' than roast chicken. - Mon, 02/21/11 1:18 PM
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Never heard of that. Would love to see pictures. I use a rib rack on the Weber. But drumstickks are my next favorite after thighs.

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Re:There's no better eatin' than roast chicken. - Mon, 02/21/11 3:32 PM
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never could make up my mind which I liked better, legs or breast. 

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Re:There's no better eatin' than roast chicken. - Mon, 02/21/11 3:50 PM
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kman160


Never heard of that. Would love to see pictures. I use a rib rack on the Weber. But drumstickks are my next favorite after thighs.

 

 
My rack has a matching pan but I found it to be too small for the potatoes so I used a slightly wider foil pan instead.  It can be used for full legs but then they have to be alternated in order to fit.
 

 
I was concerned that the potatoes (Yukon Gold) might not cook thoroughly and they did have raw chicken juice dripping on them, but by the time the chicken was ready they were fully cooked and quite good.  I wasn't sure how much liquid I'd get from the chicken so I brushed the slices with a little olive oil and dusted them with pepper, but no salt as I used seasoned salt on the chicken.
 
Mine was bought at Menards.  I don't know if there are any stores in the Syracuse area but I'd think you could find them at Home Depot, Lowes, and other stores that carry outdoor cooking accessories.
 
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Re:There's no better eatin' than roast chicken. - Mon, 02/21/11 4:34 PM
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Brad, That is sweeet.  
 
I thought I was a breast man, but I just switched over to legs

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Re:There's no better eatin' than roast chicken. - Mon, 02/21/11 6:25 PM
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What a neat cooking tool! Will be on the lookout for that one.

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Re:There's no better eatin' than roast chicken. - Mon, 02/21/11 6:48 PM
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How were the potatoes?
 
Did the Yukon Golds hold their shape when you lifted them out?
 
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Re:There's no better eatin' than roast chicken. - Tue, 02/22/11 3:00 AM
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No butter needed.  And cook that bird!  Chicken is best on the dry side, tender and slightly moist, not juicy.
 
Undercooked chicken, and it seems like many places do, is as bad as sloppy, slimy, undercooked eggs.  Chicken and pork, shouldn't even be a question of is it all done.

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Re:There's no better eatin' than roast chicken. - Tue, 02/22/11 9:27 AM
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kishkaeater


How were the potatoes?

Did the Yukon Golds hold their shape when you lifted them out?

 
They were pretty good.  I picked Yukon Golds because I wanted a firmer potato that was less likely to fall apart and I tried to slice them about 1/4" or so, and they turned out fork-tender.  Plus there was no need to peel and not salting them turned out to be a good decision because the drippings were salty enough.
 
Brad

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Re:There's no better eatin' than roast chicken. - Fri, 03/4/11 12:04 AM
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If you are one of those people who don't get squicked out by handling raw birds, consider mostly deboning the chicken first. A little work on the front end means the cooking time is almost cut in half, plus serving/eating is easier.
Last year, I took some pictures explaining how I roast a chicken for a friend who had never roasted one before:
 
Baaahhh...I can't post links for another 13 posts. At my rate, that'll be 2015!
 
You can find spatchcocking tutorials online. It's easy...but you have to be comfortable getting personal with the bird, heh.
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Re:There's no better eatin' than roast chicken. - Wed, 03/9/11 4:11 PM

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Re:There's no better eatin' than roast chicken. - Thu, 03/10/11 6:10 AM
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Wow, RubyRose, I sure wish you owned a restaurant in my neighborhood.