o, no. lovely as bialy's are, they are not the flat bagel (also known as flagel). While a bialy is flat, and often sold in same place as bagels, it is made differently. A bialy is usually softish, and some times has onion flakes, a flat bagel is the exact same as a regular bagel, but flattened out. Therefore it has that harder crust of a good bagel. Problem is, many generic bagels now are just fat puffs like wonder bread, and they seem like a puffy bialy!