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Re:OFFICIAL NC FOOD TRUCK BUILD W/PICS - Wed, 01/11/12 7:43 PM
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I went back to look at the smaller version of your fan and noticed on the left side of the page an add for Housed Spring Floor Mount Vibration Isolators. I had been looking for some to mount my generator with but didn't know what they were called. Those on the page were only for 35 # items so with the name I did a search and check out this site. Lots of ways to connect or isolate most anything.
http://www.vibrasystems.c...ategoryID=0&page=0
 
Is this enough to help with your equipment stand, it's from the same site

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Re:OFFICIAL NC FOOD TRUCK BUILD W/PICS - Wed, 01/11/12 8:02 PM
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These guys usually ship same day on stuff like this and their site has pricing listed on it.
 
http://www.mcmaster.com/#swivel-leveling-mounts/=frkixe
 
 
http://www.mcmaster.com/#nonmetallic-vibration-damping-mounts/=frkjoy

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Re:OFFICIAL NC FOOD TRUCK BUILD W/PICS - Thu, 01/12/12 8:14 PM
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think i found my fan..... this one is single speed 1500 cfm 
i wonder if one fan from one side would pull more air from that side or if it would be a fairly even pull across the filters...... anyone have an idea ??

http://www.globalindustrial.com/p/hvac/exhaust-fans/exhaust-and-supply/10-exhaust-fan-shutter-mounted

I got very interested in this fan and I spoke with someone yesterday about it and got an email response back to the actual depth and measurements of the fan. I'm pretty sure that this will work for me as well.
 
this is the email they sent me
Hi,

Thank you for your recent inquiry regarding our Exhaust Fan Shutter Mounted. The depth of this item 6.5 for the whole item.
 
If you would like to receive a quote for this item please provide me with your name, company name, address, and phone number.
This item can be ordered online at www.globalindustrial.com or by calling [link=tel:1-888-645-1232]1-888-645-1232[/link]. 
If you have any further questions you can contact me directly.
 

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Re:OFFICIAL NC FOOD TRUCK BUILD W/PICS - Thu, 01/12/12 8:47 PM
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Sorry to stick my nose in here, but if your building shelving and such yourself I'd recommend using standard steel tubing as a material, and then use some of the many plugs and fittings available for them such as this one:
 
We build stainless tables, shelves, etc and use these types of accessories, it adds a professional touch and are quite easy to use.
 
http://www.jwwinco.com/products/section7/

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Re:OFFICIAL NC FOOD TRUCK BUILD W/PICS - Thu, 01/12/12 8:48 PM
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yea, i did a little asking around today as well and found out these fully sealed motors are for all practical purposes water tight, with the exception of total immersion......
also told they are good for high heat, although not "rated" for it
and to be on the "safe" side, just build a small deflector to mount behind the motor to block the hot air from directly blasting the motor casing.....
a squirrel cage design would be best, but that would be 3 times the money, and 2-3 times the size 

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Re:OFFICIAL NC FOOD TRUCK BUILD W/PICS - Thu, 01/12/12 8:51 PM
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Rod,
i was just looking for ways to raise my rear feet 1 1/2 inches on the back of equipment stand because i am taking the fronts off and resting the front of stand right on top of the wheel well..... it over laps about 6 inches, and is 1 1/2 inches taller then the current legs
 
i do like that website though ....thanks for sharing :)

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Re:OFFICIAL NC FOOD TRUCK BUILD W/PICS - Thu, 01/12/12 10:30 PM
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what do you guys think of this idea to help keep the fan cooler......

it can be added to the 99 dollar fan for about 5 bucks.....
the closest legit heat rated fan i could find only pulls 243cfm and doubles the size of the fan assembly

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Re:OFFICIAL NC FOOD TRUCK BUILD W/PICS - Thu, 01/12/12 10:37 PM
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i def wont have the room for that, plus my hood is 3 ft above my griddle.. should be alright without it

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Re:OFFICIAL NC FOOD TRUCK BUILD W/PICS - Thu, 01/12/12 10:43 PM
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i think these may also have to do with "thickening" the air up right before the fan as well...... hot air is thinner then cool air, and even though the fan will still move 1500 cfm of air at either 100 degrees or 400 degrees, the static pressure will drop significantly...... meaning i think it will pull less air through the filters...

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Re:OFFICIAL NC FOOD TRUCK BUILD W/PICS - Thu, 01/12/12 10:47 PM
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lol, my fans will be about 9 inches from the back of the hood.......
i wish i could take a look at a side vent fan on a up and running truck to see how its put together
one that was "pro built" so i could see what the industry uses
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Re:OFFICIAL NC FOOD TRUCK BUILD W/PICS - Thu, 01/12/12 11:15 PM
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Good luck, I have contacted several and i mean SEVERAL manfans of stand in carts and everyone is tight lipped. It's some kinda 12volt system they are using. I will have roughly 2-3 inches MAX behind my filter from the back of the hood after the fan is in. It's going to be side mounted. I will take massive amount of pictures of that install. What I'm probably going to have to do on mine just to make sure I have clearance from the filters is mount the entire fan assembly on the outside and cut a hole big enough to have the fan and motor enter the back of the hood from the outside of the truck and put some firestop in there and possibly a small round piece of duct work for the pass through.

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Re:OFFICIAL NC FOOD TRUCK BUILD W/PICS - Thu, 01/12/12 11:30 PM
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there is a stand in hot dog cart at a car lot across town..... i will have to get in there and see if i can find a name or something on the fan or fixture....
it would be sooooo nice to have 12 volt fans......be able to go "stealth" mode for a few hours at a time....
glad im out of money right now, lol, gives me time to shop around and do research

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Re:OFFICIAL NC FOOD TRUCK BUILD W/PICS - Fri, 01/13/12 1:10 AM
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I guess I'm not sure what the issue would be, 12 volt fans are readily available, and here's one link to calculations for size of fan.
I've seen a lot of 12 volt exhaust fans on street vendor carts here, they use old car radiator fans, hooked up to a 12 V battery, anyway here's a couple links that may help.

http://www.hrpworld.com/i...63&action=category
http://www.engineeringtoo...aust-hoods-d_1036.html

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Re:OFFICIAL NC FOOD TRUCK BUILD W/PICS - Fri, 01/13/12 12:27 PM
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That fan system is a great find! Thanks I've been searching for that type of set up for a while. I'll have an 8ft hood. I'm thinking 3 of those 10 inchers evenly spaced will suck!

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Re:OFFICIAL NC FOOD TRUCK BUILD W/PICS - Fri, 01/13/12 1:38 PM
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the good the bad and the UGLY........

lol, the good part is i finally got around to looking under that floor plate that covers the unused drivers foot well....
 
 

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Re:OFFICIAL NC FOOD TRUCK BUILD W/PICS - Fri, 01/13/12 1:49 PM
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the bad isnt really that bad...... just a good example of why you never want to use floating grounds on an aluminum vehicle .....

 
yes, aluminum never rusts....but it will corrode, mainly when you add a little moisture(like in an unused footwell) and micro currents of electricity(floating grounds)
not the best pic, but you can see the white powdery aluminum rust.... caught it in time before any real damage was done, but i took a few whacks with the hammer to break that corrosion free in order to get the screws out

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Re:OFFICIAL NC FOOD TRUCK BUILD W/PICS - Fri, 01/13/12 1:54 PM
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and here is the ugly !!, lol
there must be 10 pounds of just muck i dug out from down there....the foot well has 4 drain holes in it, but after crap like this starts building up there is no hope....
it was nice and moist last night when i dug it out, and smelled like compost, so yea..... if you have a single door..... might want to take a look every now and then to keep it cleaned out....
i am putting a pair of batteries down there, and maybe some other electrical components, so i need to take a close look at how to seal the space up better then it is now....

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Re:OFFICIAL NC FOOD TRUCK BUILD W/PICS - Fri, 01/13/12 2:00 PM
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I guess I'm not sure what the issue would be, 12 volt fans are readily available, and here's one link to calculations for size of fan.
I've seen a lot of 12 volt exhaust fans on street vendor carts here, they use old car radiator fans, hooked up to a 12 V battery, anyway here's a couple links that may help.

 
im not sure i want to put a plastic fan that close to my hood, since any possible fire will be almost assuredly sucked right across the fan itself being so close
but i do like the idea of how it would look from the outside.....pretty neat and tidy i do think.... maybe i will check further into those.....
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Re:OFFICIAL NC FOOD TRUCK BUILD W/PICS - Fri, 01/13/12 2:06 PM
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what do you guys think of this idea to help keep the fan cooler......

it can be added to the 99 dollar fan for about 5 bucks.....
the closest legit heat rated fan i could find only pulls 243cfm and doubles the size of the fan assembly

 
You have ether lost your mind or are a genius I'm not sure which. LMAO
 
Your getting close to an outside fresh air source for your system. Maybe that's what your trying to do and I just didn't understand. I assume your just trying to cool the air before it hits your fan motor right? I'm going forward with that assumption. So and this is just my HO, but you playing with the entire engineering of the fan and exhaust system, including how much air the fan will move, and how much hot air and grease it'll suck out of your truck. I understand your building your own system so I'm using the term engineering of the fan and exhaust system loosely but this could be something that you get the right mixture of hot air and interior air 100% right when you build this contraption, or it could be something you'd spend months tinkering with every day. I'm sure that's not what you'd want. But to get the right mixture I'd think you'd need some sort of professional expert to figure and design. Again I may be waaaaaay  off base just my thoughts.
 
On the other hand
 
If your using outside air for your system you need to get some advice from and expert also. I have seen many systems that use outside air in their system in order to not suck the air-conditioning out of the kitchen and the entire restaurant but again they hired some one to figure the cubic feet of incoming air vs the amount of out going exhaust air.
 
One last thought instead of trying to fool with air to cool the motor couldn't you just build a cone of some sort to deflect the exhaust around the back of the fan motor, your still playing with the design and flow but not as much? Or how hard is it to get access to the fan motor? Hell to replace my fan motor (after 5 years) on my roof system took 15 minutes to pull it out and a rebuild was only $60.00. then 10 minutes to put it back in.

And guys these fans are awesome but your going to need louvers for the outside right? 

Just some thoughts.
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Re:OFFICIAL NC FOOD TRUCK BUILD W/PICS - Fri, 01/13/12 2:16 PM
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RodBangkok
I've seen a lot of 12 volt exhaust fans on street vendor carts here, they use old car radiator fans, hooked up to a 12 V battery, anyway here's a couple links that may help.

http://www.engineeringtoo...aust-hoods-d_1036.html 

 
Rod,
Do you know how to use the math in the formula? If so can you engineer all that needs done to figure the protective cone that BAB is trying to build?Or is it your impression that it's no big deal?
Jack

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Re:OFFICIAL NC FOOD TRUCK BUILD W/PICS - Fri, 01/13/12 4:41 PM
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lmao !... i r a injun ear.....
the basic idea of the air tube is to cool the bearing on the end of the shaft in the motor, and the cone is to deflect hot air around the bearing area of motor housing, 
with 1500 cfm from this fan, i just need to figure out what a 1"id pipe will flow with a 90 degree bend in it, or maybe 1 1/2"...... just have to find some values and go from there.....
 
idea being, fan pulls 1500 cfm, pipe of a given size will flow say 50-100 cfm.... that still leaves me with 1400 or so cfm being pulled through the filters....
also if the cooler air from the tube lowers the temps right before the fan, it will effect the static pressure and help the fan work more efficiently(pull more air through filters)
 
the cone itself will have a major effect on how hot the bearings get, and being a cone instead of a flat piece, in my head it helps smooth air flow and "aims" it toward the outer edges of the fan blades, where they do more air pulling more so then closer in towards the shaft... 

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Re:OFFICIAL NC FOOD TRUCK BUILD W/PICS - Fri, 01/13/12 5:03 PM
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So this pipe and cone gizmo is going behind your filters correct?
Ok as long as you don't say hold my beer and watch this. LOL
 
But with all your doing you need a set of these:
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Re:OFFICIAL NC FOOD TRUCK BUILD W/PICS - Fri, 01/13/12 5:34 PM
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yea, behind the filters, in the plenum (probably 18 inches from rear of filter) 
 
i love those lights

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Re:OFFICIAL NC FOOD TRUCK BUILD W/PICS - Fri, 01/13/12 5:42 PM
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Cool. Shoot plenty of pictures so I can learn from your creative thinking. Wow that sounds so much better than from your efforts. LOL
 
And I can see a dozen uses for the license plate lights or if they make an led light like it. At the four corners of a Step Van outside menu board, corners of a lift up window, lights on the steps going into the van, where ever. I think rope lights are so tacky.

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Re:OFFICIAL NC FOOD TRUCK BUILD W/PICS - Fri, 01/13/12 6:32 PM
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this is a diagram of what i think may work......


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Re:OFFICIAL NC FOOD TRUCK BUILD W/PICS - Fri, 01/13/12 6:35 PM
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oohh let me tell you....the LED clearance lights i got, i ended up with 2 spare red ones, i prewired the dome light but havent found one i like yet, so i temp wired those 2 spare red ones in and man, they light the cab up enough to read a newspaper....
they come in red, amber, blue, green, white, and i think purple.... crazy bright, and they are only 6 bucks each !
actually make that 5.50 each.... heres the ebay seller i buy from, great folks to work with, i highly recommend them......
scroll down and you will see the links for different colors, etc.... they will put you together a package like what you want, mixed colors, etc...... and dont forget the stainless steel trim rings....really makes them pop !!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-Maxxima-3-4-Amber-LED-Clearance-Marker-Truck-Light-/350493746387?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item519b0e24d3#ht_10463wt_953
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Re:OFFICIAL NC FOOD TRUCK BUILD W/PICS - Fri, 01/13/12 6:38 PM
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actually the rear wall would be about 2 1/2 inches thick....

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Re:OFFICIAL NC FOOD TRUCK BUILD W/PICS - Fri, 01/13/12 7:10 PM
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RodBangkok
I've seen a lot of 12 volt exhaust fans on street vendor carts here, they use old car radiator fans, hooked up to a 12 V battery, anyway here's a couple links that may help.

http://www.engineeringtoo...aust-hoods-d_1036.html 


Rod,
Do you know how to use the math in the formula? If so can you engineer all that needs done to figure the protective cone that BAB is trying to build?Or is it your impression that it's no big deal?
Jack

Here's a second formula for calculating the capture air velocity that is used in the first.
http://www.engineeringtoo...ust-outlet-d_1008.html
With the known CAV you can then enter the other variables in the first calculation I referenced.  
Here are some references to designing hoods, one big thing you need to consider is the make up air.  Take a look at the following links and pdf's.  They explain in some detail about how to feed make up air into the area.  
Think of make up air as the air that you take out with your hood has to be replaced with makeup air, and how that air is supplied to the area is very important.
As far as your cone is concerned I don't think I'd worry too much about it as the temps are probably not high enough to worry about.  More important is how your grease filtering works to insure the air leaving thru the hood has most of the grease filtered out already.  
When you design your fan into the plenum I'd make it a modular type unit that you can just slide out of a slot in the plenum sort of like a drawer.  That way you don't have to take the world apart to replace a fan.
http://www.google.com/url...4YEA3CY5K77NC6bqSjyvng
http://www.google.com/url...xdlyO_Y2Poq2r3ZqcaJOXQ
http://www.energy.ca.gov
 
Also google:
Kosonen Risto, Mustakallio PanuAnalysis of Capture and Containment Efficiency of a Ventilated Ceiling.
 
Reading engineering documents can be quite boring or make you look up a lot of terms and associated data, but its all in the realm of learning something new.
I'll try and help with questions, I'm no hvac expert, but we've got experience in doing simpler type designs.  I believe in learn by doing so dig into this and other sources on the web, theres a vast amount of information out there, just takes some time to find it.
I'm in and out and away from my time on forums quite a bit so if I don't get back to someone its because I'm tied up and away from these sites.
 
Hope this helps

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Re:OFFICIAL NC FOOD TRUCK BUILD W/PICS - Fri, 01/13/12 8:28 PM

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Re:OFFICIAL NC FOOD TRUCK BUILD W/PICS - Fri, 01/13/12 8:32 PM

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Re:OFFICIAL NC FOOD TRUCK BUILD W/PICS - Sun, 01/15/12 12:56 AM
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Rod,
that was some good reading....lol, believe it or not i can grab a drink and a smoke and settle in and read stuff like that front to back
most of the 12 volt motors i found though are only heat rated 1 (one) 104* max air over motor....i assume a 12 volt motor is much like a 12 volt vs 120 volt pump... the 12 volt will outlast by many many margins

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Re:OFFICIAL NC FOOD TRUCK BUILD W/PICS - Sun, 01/15/12 1:06 PM
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Here is a good shot of a West Coast Catering Company finished job on an electrical system. Bruce you should do the tags and arrows so everyone knows what everything is

 

Here is their site
http://www.westcoastcater...ks.com/electrical.html
 



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Re:OFFICIAL NC FOOD TRUCK BUILD W/PICS - Sun, 01/15/12 5:37 PM
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lol..... this is just what i see that i would do different, i dont mean to take jabs at someone elses work.......


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Re:OFFICIAL NC FOOD TRUCK BUILD W/PICS - Sun, 01/15/12 6:26 PM
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i think i got all this right..... lol, i hold no responsibility for mistakes !!


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Re:OFFICIAL NC FOOD TRUCK BUILD W/PICS - Sun, 01/15/12 6:32 PM
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nope, i already see the error i made, lol
anyone else see it ?

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Re:OFFICIAL NC FOOD TRUCK BUILD W/PICS - Sun, 01/15/12 9:16 PM
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I don't all though some of your colored lettering is hard to read but I want to know what the software is your using to do all this? Is it difficult to use? How expensive is it?
Jack
Good job even if you did make a mistake, your trying to second guess someone else s system while only seeing a small portion of it.

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Re:OFFICIAL NC FOOD TRUCK BUILD W/PICS - Sun, 01/15/12 10:32 PM
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looks like MS paint which is on your pc  or Paint.NET  which is a free download.

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Re:OFFICIAL NC FOOD TRUCK BUILD W/PICS - Mon, 01/16/12 12:37 AM
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yep, just simple "paint"..... under the accessories menu under all programs, under start

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Re:OFFICIAL NC FOOD TRUCK BUILD W/PICS - Mon, 01/16/12 12:39 AM
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i think the two bottom plugs are 220v plugs, possibly going to steam table and maybe coffee maker or something...... cant really tell without getting in there and looking........

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Re:OFFICIAL NC FOOD TRUCK BUILD W/PICS - Wed, 01/18/12 4:17 PM
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well, i ran into fitment problems with the headers.... im going to have to do some minor surgery to either them or the frame....im leaning towards the headers, they almost fit.... about 1/4" out from falling into place..... im going to need a few days on this, lol

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Re:OFFICIAL NC FOOD TRUCK BUILD W/PICS - Thu, 01/19/12 5:47 AM
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Rod,
that was some good reading....lol, believe it or not i can grab a drink and a smoke and settle in and read stuff like that front to back
most of the 12 volt motors i found though are only heat rated 1 (one) 104* max air over motor....i assume a 12 volt motor is much like a 12 volt vs 120 volt pump... the 12 volt will outlast by many many margins

I don't think we've ever had a problem using regular automotive 12 volt fans in a hood application.  I've never measured the temps, but remember by the time the air goes thru the filters there is a lot of heat sink dissipation along with some make up air being pulled in.   I know some folks use them in hoods for wok burners here, and those put out at least a couple hundred K btu per burner, especially when they pull the wok off and the flames shoot up like an afterburner on a jet.  As I mentioned I'd put it in some sort of easy remove module in the plenum just in case you have problems.

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Re:OFFICIAL NC FOOD TRUCK BUILD W/PICS - Fri, 01/20/12 9:23 PM
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I ordered that fan from global industries when you posted that link and it came in today. 3 days from start to finish. Pleased with the process so far. I measured the fan, from front to back it is about 5.5" and the shutter is a second box. I think I can make it work. I'm not pleased with the wiring that I'm supposed to hook up to, but I might change it. It's silver braided frayed wire. This thing is supposed to hook up to 115v and is 1500 cfm. I'm going to mock it up and see how the fan fits behind the filters this weekend. Will take pics of that and the uni-strut on the floor.

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Re:OFFICIAL NC FOOD TRUCK BUILD W/PICS - Sat, 01/21/12 3:19 AM
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sweet, looking to hear your opinions and a review :)

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Re:OFFICIAL NC FOOD TRUCK BUILD W/PICS - Sun, 01/22/12 5:01 PM
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The fan fits... barely but I will take that !!! I'm going to install it in the middle. At 1500 CFM I should really have no problem exiting air and what not. The one thing I mentioned that I don't like is the wiring on the fan. It's frayed silver wire, My wiring is solid copper. I will wire nut it and see what happens and tape it up and stick it in a junction box to protect it even more.  Here is the pic of the fan just sitting behind the filter.  Nothing is hooked up yet.
 


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Re:OFFICIAL NC FOOD TRUCK BUILD W/PICS - Mon, 01/23/12 12:41 AM
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niiiice,
if mounting in that location is a go, then i will be getting one myself :)
 
lets see, from what i have read the industry rule of thumb is 300sqft per foot of hood, how long is your hood ?
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Re:OFFICIAL NC FOOD TRUCK BUILD W/PICS - Mon, 01/23/12 12:44 AM
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ok...... is it just me, or should this sign actually say.......
 
"hey ! we shortchange our customers 13% less then our competition" 

am i not right thinking a 20 lb bottle should hold 18 lbs ???
80% fill rate with opd right ??
or should a 20lb bottle hold 20lbs with a 20% "dead space" ??
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Re:OFFICIAL NC FOOD TRUCK BUILD W/PICS - Mon, 01/23/12 10:53 AM
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my hood is 4ft wide by 3 or 4 feet deep at the very edge. I think it's 3 though.  So that gives me 7 ft but I know that my requirements are NOT 2100 cfm. I think the min allowed is 800. I think. lol

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Re:OFFICIAL NC FOOD TRUCK BUILD W/PICS - Mon, 01/23/12 11:53 AM
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ok...... is it just me, or should this sign actually say.......

"hey ! we shortchange our customers 13% less then our competition" 

am i not right thinking a 20 lb bottle should hold 18 lbs ???
80% fill rate with opd right ??
or should a 20lb bottle hold 20lbs with a 20% "dead space" ??

 
You posted a great question. We have two dealers here in town that don't bother to weigh tanks just charge a flat fee and so if you take in a 75% empty tank your paying for 25% of product you didn't get. But the only way to put 17% more propane into a tank is to exceed the propane tank limits. Or if other dealers are not filling propane tanks to the legal limit. But why would they do that?
 
Here is some on lime imformation on propane tanks:
 
Propane is a gas at standard temperature and pressure. A 20-pound tank holds about 4.1 gallons of liquid propane. It's a liquid in the tank because it's under great pressure. 4.2 lb per US gallon
 
Then at another site I read :
 
4.7 Gals is the correct answer. Water weights right at 8# per gallon and propane is 4.2# per gallon. LP cylinders are classified by the amount of liquefied propane they hold at 80% of their water capacity. The temperature of the liquid causes the actual level to increase or decrease so the basic figures are typically at 60F. A 20# cylinder holds 20#/4.2# per GL = 4.7 gallons. Parenthetically, some other interesting facts about propane are that each gallon makes 270 gallons of vapor gas. Propane boils at -44F (yes, below zero) whereas water boils at+212F. It looks just like boiling water when vapor is used from the top of the cylinder like when using a grill. Propane looks perfectly clear just like water but is half the specific gravity of water. What that means is a fishing bobber would sink to the bottom if dropped into propane.


Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Discuss:How_many_gallons_of_fuel_does_a_20-pound_propane_tank_hold#ixzz1kIiVzFOd

Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_gallons_of_fuel_does_a_20-pound_propane_tank_hold#ixzz1kIhJjrGx

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Re:OFFICIAL NC FOOD TRUCK BUILD W/PICS - Mon, 01/23/12 11:55 AM
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Wait a moment if your paying by the # and they do put in 17% extra your paying 17% extra right? LOL

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Re:OFFICIAL NC FOOD TRUCK BUILD W/PICS - Mon, 01/23/12 4:47 PM
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ok....i got the 20lb tank holds 20 pounds....but is that a 20lb tank minus 20% for the opd(giving a 16lb actual amount).... or is that a measured "24lb" capacity that is filled to 20lbs giving the 20% dead space for the opd ?
 
if it is 80% of a 20 pound max how can they legally put in 17lbs ??
ok, i just saw the other thread...BS i say
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Re:OFFICIAL NC FOOD TRUCK BUILD W/PICS - Mon, 01/23/12 5:16 PM
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ok, on a better note....
here are a couple of pics of a "pro built" hot dog stand and its hood system...
the is a Dayton fan model 197 12v 2350rpm fan motor..... it says 3.7 amps(?) thats a lot i think but more so to the way its set up.....
right behind the filters, very tight fit..... right in the middle with the bulk of the heat stream and no cooling air vents or tubes for the motor....

here is a pic of the griddle burners, so three burners... assuming 32k btu each gives us a heat source of 96k btu's per hour

and here is the simple shutter vent on the outside wall..... just like what i picture on the rear of my truck.....

sooooo..... i think Wild Dogs set up falls within the "assumed" industry standard..... only difference i see is the hot dog trailer unit has heat shield on the wires leading to the motor.....shouldnt be too big a deal to get that up to par though, rather easily if you ask me.... go to oriellys auto parts and get a couple feet of spark plug wire heat shield (good to 750*), could possibly even get a small package of header wrap and give the motor a "blanket" to help shield it as well.....
folks... i do believe we have found a suitable set up to make things work :)

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Re:OFFICIAL NC FOOD TRUCK BUILD W/PICS - Mon, 01/23/12 5:20 PM
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on a side note.......
this little hot dog trailer is for sale, guy has reduced the price from 22k to 14k if anyone is interested just let me know and i will forward you his info, or him yours, either way.....
lol, he just wants it gone at this point in time, it has been used 5 times..... 2 of those were in his driveway to test it out and play with all the gadgets, lol

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Re:OFFICIAL NC FOOD TRUCK BUILD W/PICS - Mon, 01/23/12 5:25 PM
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heres a couple more pics of it....its really is a nice little set up :)



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Re:OFFICIAL NC FOOD TRUCK BUILD W/PICS - Mon, 01/23/12 11:36 PM
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looks like a custom... those babies are built to last through a nuclear war

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Re:OFFICIAL NC FOOD TRUCK BUILD W/PICS - Tue, 01/24/12 11:53 PM
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ok, im about to give up !!....
the headers are a no go, i massaged the passengers side and got them to fit ok, but the driver side has an 02 sensor bung right at the collector, and no massaging in the world is going to make it play nice with the frame...
so, the ol' girl is once again grounded until further notice....
i dunno, worst case i just go back to the stock style manifolds..... i have to go talk with a couple exhaust shops tomorrow evening, see about having something made custom..... but we all know what that means$$$$$
i did unload the useless headers for 100 bucks.... not too shabby after only paying 132 for them, and then beating the crap out of them with the framing...i mean massaging hammer, lol
so...all is not lost, and im not really giving up..... just another hurdle to figure out.....

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Re:OFFICIAL NC FOOD TRUCK BUILD W/PICS - Sat, 02/11/12 10:12 AM
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hi guys...
im still around, still looking for exhaust options before i give in and go back stock.
 
lol, the vacation is over and i had to go back to work, crazy hours but thats where the fun is :)
the project is still on track, though way behind schedule..... but i can still see light at the end of the tunnel so its just a matter of time, lol...i need to be a more patient person anyway, lol
cumberland county charges 250 bucks for inspection... yay me !! :)

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Re:OFFICIAL NC FOOD TRUCK BUILD W/PICS - Sat, 02/11/12 10:13 AM
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im going back to bed now....this is premium sleeping weather right now around here :)

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Re:OFFICIAL NC FOOD TRUCK BUILD W/PICS - Mon, 02/20/12 2:28 PM
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BackAlleyBurger

and with all the rivets involved, mechanical stripping is out of the question....

I'm new to this site, so I'm hoping this will post below the quoted message.
 
Your past this now, but for future readers: I use an abrasive wheel on a rotary tool. Get a tool that spins 20,000rmp or greater. Get the abrasive paint remover at most hardware and tool stores. I have never seen anything they won't take right off without effort. Rust, paint, laquer, even hard baked on gaskets (like a head gasket) you name it. They may scratch aluminum, so you'll need to be careful on that, but they'll get the edges around rivets with ease. As they wear, the take a different shape, so you can wear the edge to a point > and get into crevices.

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Re:OFFICIAL NC FOOD TRUCK BUILD W/PICS - Wed, 10/9/13 10:24 PM
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Where can I buy similar fan?
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The fan fits... barely but I will take that !!! I'm going to install it in the middle. At 1500 CFM I should really have no problem exiting air and what not. The one thing I mentioned that I don't like is the wiring on the fan. It's frayed silver wire, My wiring is solid copper. I will wire nut it and see what happens and tape it up and stick it in a junction box to protect it even more.  Here is the pic of the fan just sitting behind the filter.  Nothing is hooked up yet.





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Re:OFFICIAL NC FOOD TRUCK BUILD W/PICS - Fri, 10/11/13 12:45 AM
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All over.  Google 10" axial fan with shutter.  Or if you have a way to fit a large fan (where you'll only need one vs 2 or 3) I have a 14" I'd be willing to part with.  Ebay is where I got my smaller fans.

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