They'd be Roadfood if there weren't so !@#$ many of them

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michaelcarraher
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They'd be Roadfood if there weren't so !@#$ many of them - Sat, 07/9/11 1:41 PM
Which fast food franchises and restaurant chains do you think are roadfood quality; they'd be listed in Roadfood if there were only one of them?  As an example, I suspect the McDonald brothers' original drive-in in San Bernadino would have made it, if Roadfood had been around back then.  My criteria: Good food and the places have some real character and don't seem "designed" to look like they have character.
 
Here are my choices:
Waffle House
Checker's/Rally's
A&W Drive-In
Stewart's Drive-In
White Castle
Boston Chicken (pre-Boston Market)
Handel's Ice Cream
Howard Johnson's (pre-70s - not on the turnpike)
Skyline Chilli
Morrison's Cafeterias (pre-Picadilly)
Black-Eyed Peas Restaurant
Big Boy Drive-Ins (pre-Marriott): Elias Brother's, Frish's, Marc's, Shoney's, Bob's, etc.
 
I like Five Guys burgers, hot dogs and fries but the place seems too artificial; some corporate designer's idea of Roadfood, so I left them off.   Same for Bob Evans but I love the biscuits and gravy. 
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Re:They'd be Roadfood if there weren't so !@#$ many of them - Sat, 07/9/11 1:50 PM
Good idea for a topic.  Culver's is on my list. You'll get a lot of votes for In 'n Out  and 5-Guys.

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Re:They'd be Roadfood if there weren't so !@#$ many of them - Sat, 07/9/11 2:17 PM
Another vote for Culver's.
 
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Re:They'd be Roadfood if there weren't so !@#$ many of them - Sat, 07/9/11 3:26 PM
My votes:
Pollo Loco (only ate there in Florida)
Cracker Barrel
5 Guys
Mellow Mushroom
Captain D's
Rally's
Frisch's
White Castle
I can't comment on In 'And Out because we don't have them around on our travels.  I'd put Krystal on my list but after our last visit there in May NO.
Andrea
 
 
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Re:They'd be Roadfood if there weren't so !@#$ many of them - Sat, 07/9/11 3:38 PM
In-N-Out is a Roadfood.com restaurant.
 
http://www.roadfood.com/Restaurant/Overview/1647/innout-burger
 
Five Guys Burgers and Fries used to be, but recently was removed after they went mega-chain (at least I can't find it anymore).

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Re:They'd be Roadfood if there weren't so !@#$ many of them - Sat, 07/9/11 3:56 PM
WAFFLE HOUSE !!
five guys
mellow mushroom !! i didnt know they were corporate :( i drive 90 miles every blue moon to eat at the one in wilmington :)
cracker barrel

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Re:They'd be Roadfood if there weren't so !@#$ many of them - Sat, 07/9/11 4:34 PM
Cracker Barrel
Mellow Mushroom
 
That's about all I can think of. White Castle is not good food, it's just cheap food. I almost added Waffle House because I love it (also Checkers), but really not. Steak 'n Shake is a Roadfood restaurant, and I still don't get it. 

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Re:They'd be Roadfood if there weren't so !@#$ many of them - Sat, 07/9/11 5:04 PM
I'm curious if, by the Stern's definition, large regional and national chains can be Roadfood worthy. 
 
For me, yes, if through their employees or other flashes of independent thought and cooking, they have some character and don't seem McStamped out of the same mold. Great grease works for me too.
 
Of the one's mentioned so far, I'd say yes to the following:
 
Waffle House
A&W Drive-In
Stewart's Drive-In
White Castle
Howard Johnson's (pre-70s)
Skyline Chilli
Big Boy Drive-Ins (pre-Marriott): Elias Brother's, Frish's, Marc's, Shoney's, Bob's, White Castle
Culvers
I'd also add Chick-Filet
And maybe Hardee's for its breakfast biscuits and, I gotta admit, McDonald's only for its Egg McMuffin.

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Re:They'd be Roadfood if there weren't so !@#$ many of them - Sat, 07/9/11 5:48 PM
Holly, I agree with your assessment.  Nothing like a Hardee's biscuit for breakfast.
 
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Re:They'd be Roadfood if there weren't so !@#$ many of them - Sun, 07/10/11 1:34 AM
Skyline Chile  has been reviewed in the  books. Burgerville, a northwest regional chain has been reviewed in the books and on this site. Waffle House is a place where I tend to eat when i am in a place that has one.
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Re:They'd be Roadfood if there weren't so !@#$ many of them - Sun, 07/10/11 10:54 AM
To be "road food" I'm thinking there has to be a level of quality / unique food and usually combined with a homey feel.  IMO, that would certainly disclude Bob Evans, Black Eye Peas, McDonalds & Cracker Barrel (all way too sterile / plastic), but would allow for Waffle House, Stewarts and A&W (with draft root beer served in glass mugs) as well as Pollo Loco.
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Re:They'd be Roadfood if there weren't so !@#$ many of them - Sun, 07/10/11 1:54 PM
A&W is a good choice. I just had a burger and a mug of root beer at the A&W drive in in Cortland, NY a little while ago. Hit the spot.

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Re:They'd be Roadfood if there weren't so !@#$ many of them - Sun, 07/10/11 4:26 PM
I haven't been by an El Pollo Loco in ages.  There's one not too far from me, in Smyrna.  I should swing by one day this week.

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Re:They'd be Roadfood if there weren't so !@#$ many of them - Sun, 07/10/11 8:55 PM
In a million years, would I ever consider Cracker Barrel to ever have been Roadfood worthy!  I had to endure breakfast there last swwek as someone's guest  and  it  was  as  dreadful as I remembered from  15 years ago!    YUCK!                                                                                                                                                                

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Re:They'd be Roadfood if there weren't so !@#$ many of them - Sun, 07/10/11 9:59 PM
I agree, Greymo.Cant stand Cracker Barrel.

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Re:They'd be Roadfood if there weren't so !@#$ many of them - Sun, 07/10/11 10:02 PM
What Cracker Barrel has to offer those of us in the North is a reasonable facsimile of a Southern breakfast. And it remains the only place within 50 miles of my house where I can actually order and receive greens with salt pork. Perfect? No. But as close an approximation as I can get here. Unfortunately, the one right by my house closed a few years ago, so the closest one is so far on the opposite side of town as to be a planned outing.
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Re:They'd be Roadfood if there weren't so !@#$ many of them - Sun, 07/10/11 10:33 PM
felix4067


What Cracker Barrel has to offer those of us in the North is a reasonable facsimile of a Southern breakfast. And it remains the only place within 50 miles of my house where I can actually order and receive greens with salt pork. Perfect? No. But as close an approximation as I can get here. Unfortunately, the one right by my house closed a few years ago, so the closest one is so far on the opposite side of town as to be a planned outing.

I don't see a problem with Cracker Barrel - they have a good variety of food and if you are on the road and want something dependable at an exit and to get back on the road it's fine.  If you have more time there are probably better places, but I think Cracker Barrel is just fine for a road trip. 
Andrea


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Re:They'd be Roadfood if there weren't so !@#$ many of them - Sun, 07/10/11 10:52 PM
I lived in Nashville, their hdqtrs, and they are a very scripted, canned as in cookee cutter, food concept dispite their so called Southern menu. The Store also knocks them out of contention. They are Faux, Imitation Roadfood.
A decent place to eat??? OK. But don't call it Roadfood.
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Re:They'd be Roadfood if there weren't so !@#$ many of them - Sun, 07/10/11 11:34 PM
Foodbme


I lived in Nashville, their hdqtrs, and they are a very scripted, canned as in cookee cutter, food concept dispite their so called Southern menu. The Store also knocks them out of contention. They are Faux, Imitation Roadfood.
A decent place to eat??? OK. But don't call it Roadfood.

 
I'm just saying if you're on the road and need to make a relatively quick stop you could do a lot worse than Cracker Barrel re the other eating establishments off of the interstate exits.
Andrea


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Re:They'd be Roadfood if there weren't so !@#$ many of them - Sun, 07/10/11 11:42 PM
Foodbme

A decent place to eat??? OK. But don't call it Roadfood.

Exactly how I feel about the vast majority of chains that are deemed Roadfood by this site.

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Re:They'd be Roadfood if there weren't so !@#$ many of them - Mon, 07/11/11 2:45 AM
I have never had a decent meal there. I find their food tasteless. Just my experience and opinion. And having traveled extensively in the south, their breakfasts arent even close to southern style.Again, just my experience and opinion.

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Re:They'd be Roadfood if there weren't so !@#$ many of them - Mon, 07/11/11 3:54 AM
I think I meant "Pollo Tropical" and not "Pollo Loco" - we don't have either here.  The Pollo Tropical we ate at in Delray Beach was great.
Andrea

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Re:They'd be Roadfood if there weren't so !@#$ many of them - Mon, 07/11/11 6:56 AM
I used to frequent El Pollo Loco when living in SoCal.  I really like their chicken...and the Black Bean Bowl is a good, filling, and cheap lunch on the run.  Same with Popeye's here in Louisville. I do like the Chicken Popeyes puts out...but I don't sit in the place, it is drive-thru for me !!
Roadfood, not really, but better food than many alternative choices.
Add my vote for
   Culvers
   In n Out
   Farmer Boys
 

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Re:They'd be Roadfood if there weren't so !@#$ many of them - Mon, 07/11/11 7:00 AM
Al:  I wish Farmer Boys were in Knoxville.  Many thanks to you for turning me on to them when I was at the NHRA banquet and award ceremony at Pomona.  Great breakfast and burgers.
 
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Re:They'd be Roadfood if there weren't so !@#$ many of them - Mon, 07/11/11 7:06 AM
Looking over these posts has sort of clarified my thinking on what makes a chain/franchise restaurant Roadfood-worthy.  (1) Quality, of course.  That can sometimes vary from one location to the next (even one day to the next).  (2) "Americana" type cuisine. (3) Originality.  The place feels like it started out as an original Roadfood restaurant someplace and then opened another location, then another ....  As opposed to someplace (like Cracker Barrel IMHO) which some corporate types designed from scratch to look like their idea of a Roadfood restaurant.   
 
There some good chains out there and I enjoy the food but they ain't Roadfood.  I wouldn't drive to get to them.  There's no "color," no unique experience.  When the Stern's write their reviews, they don't just review the food - they review the place, the people and the experience.  Of all the chains I listed earlier, Waffle House is probably the most "roadfood."
IHOP has good waffles and pancakes but it doesn't have the color.
 

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Re:They'd be Roadfood if there weren't so !@#$ many of them - Mon, 07/11/11 10:00 AM
In-N-Out is a Roadfood place. Part of this has to do with the fact that they still operate their own commissary. They even built a second (temporary) commissary in NW Dallas to support their Texas expansion:
http://articles.ocregister.com/2011-03-10/news/28692595_1_beef-processing-plant-texas-panhandle-dallas-area
I can't see any of the other places listed, in their present form, being Roadfood. Just about all get their food from a dedicated supply chain. Many have food items custom manufactured for them in a factory which they then just heat and serve. These could not be prepared by a owner-operated restaurant.
 
One interesting case is the Howard Johnson chain. There are just three of them left, all in places I don't get to. AFAIK, their supply chain is gone and they are left to fend for themselves. Seems even the vendor who made the coating for their Tendersweet claims dropped the account because of insufficient volume. Google maps show the last commissary and ice cream plant in Brockton, Massachusetts bulldozed. Even the outsoured food manufacturers who took over are no longer providing product.
 
I'd be interested in hearing from members who have recently eaten in Bangor, Maine, Lake  George, NY, or Lake Placid, NY Howard Johnson's.

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Re:They'd be Roadfood if there weren't so !@#$ many of them - Mon, 07/11/11 10:27 AM
ann peeples


I have never had a decent meal there. I find their food tasteless. Just my experience and opinion. And having traveled extensively in the south, their breakfasts arent even close to southern style.Again, just my experience and opinion.

And I never claimed they WERE true Southern style. What I said was, it's the closest I can come here. Much like Red Lobster being the closest I can come to decent seafood (without paying an arm and a leg) here.
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Re:They'd be Roadfood if there weren't so !@#$ many of them - Mon, 07/11/11 11:08 AM
Versailles, a small chain in Southern California.
I've always wondered why a Cuban restaurant would be named Versailles.

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Re:They'd be Roadfood if there weren't so !@#$ many of them - Mon, 07/11/11 11:56 AM
Relax, felix.As I said, my experience and opinion. Others have different, and I certainly respect and understand that.

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Re:They'd be Roadfood if there weren't so !@#$ many of them - Mon, 07/11/11 12:02 PM
mar52


Versailles, a small chain in Southern California.
I've always wondered why a Cuban restaurant would be named Versailles.

 
I am not sure about the small chain in California but the  large Cuban restaurant in Miami is called Versailles and I think that they chose that name because of the way it is decorated. The place is loaded with etched mirrors and loads of chandeliers and murals as supposed to look  like a palace.  The food there is wonderful!



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Re:They'd be Roadfood if there weren't so !@#$ many of them - Mon, 07/11/11 12:42 PM
Interesting.  I wonder if there is a connection.

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Re:They'd be Roadfood if there weren't so !@#$ many of them - Mon, 07/11/11 12:44 PM
Greymo


In a million years, would I ever consider Cracker Barrel to ever have been Roadfood worthy!  I had to endure breakfast there last swwek as someone's guest  and  it  was  as  dreadful as I remembered from  15 years ago!    YUCK!                                                                                                                                                                


I'm with Greymo. Cracker Barrel? Double Yuck!

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Re:They'd be Roadfood if there weren't so !@#$ many of them - Mon, 07/11/11 1:01 PM
I have a friend that I retired with and we meet for breakfast on occasion.  He insist that we meet at Cracker Barrel.  In my opinion only, the food is just barely average and it never ceases to amaze me how many folks really enjoy it.
 
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Re:They'd be Roadfood if there weren't so !@#$ many of them - Tue, 07/12/11 1:09 AM
 
The first few Five Guys locations in northern VA, where Five Guys started in the mid-80s, would qualify.   They were a legit independent burger joint. 
 
As others have said, I would include Waffle House.
Even better than Waffle House, but with similar food, is Huddle House.   Huddle House does not have as many locations as Waffle House, and is not in as large of a gegraphic area.   But, they are a little better than Waffle House, IMO.   
 
I agree with most of the other mentions on here, except Cracker Barrel.  If it was a single location that later decided to expand, then I can see them making the list.  But Cracker Barrel was specifically designed from the ground up to be a faux southern food chain.  My in-laws liked that place, and I dreaded going there. 
 
 
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Re:They'd be Roadfood if there weren't so !@#$ many of them - Tue, 07/12/11 2:13 AM
I'm sorry if I'm unpopular with Cracker Barrel, but I've eaten at some much worse roadfood places that I've had to drive out of my way for and pay more money for.  If I'm on the road and just want to fill my belly and I pull off at an exit and there's a McDonald's, a Wendy's, a Long John Silvers, etc. I'm going to the Cracker Barrel.  Just my opinion.
Andrea
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Re:They'd be Roadfood if there weren't so !@#$ many of them - Tue, 07/12/11 4:22 AM
Andrea, you're not unpopular.  I don't think the issue is whether you can get a good meal at Cracker Barrel.  I've eaten there a few times and it's not bad (IMHO).  As Glenn says it feels designed and "faux."  Roadfood ain't the Michelin Guide; the Stern's don't recommend the best restaurants.  Just good restaurants that offer a particular kind of experience.  I like Subway and it's about as un-Roadfood as you can get.  For all their attempt to give it a kind of Big Apple cachet, it's also about as un-New York as you can get (I used to live in NYC).  But I still like the subs.  To their credit, they sell subs that are sort of like a hoagie or cheese steak but they don't try to claim they are a hoagie or cheese steak (now I live in Philly). 

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Re:They'd be Roadfood if there weren't so !@#$ many of them - Tue, 07/12/11 7:09 AM
AndreaB


I'm sorry if I'm unpopular with Cracker Barrel, but I've eaten at some much worse roadfood places that I've had to drive out of my way for and pay more money for.  If I'm on the road and just want to fill my belly and I pull off at an exit and there's a McDonald's, a Wendy's, a Long John Silvers, etc. I'm going to the Cracker Barrel.  Just my opinion.
Andrea

 
 
and I find Cracker Barrel is about as bad as it gets - right down there with Arbies, Long John Silver's, Red Lobster, Olive Garden & Sonic.  OK, I guess , if one likes reheated canned meats and vegetables with a lot of salt, it could have appeal, but certainly not a place where I care to stop.  Even their cobblers taste like they come out of a can.   It's certainly NOT "road food"  -   too much plastic / artificial setting with really low quality.  On the positive side, they do tend to be clean.

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Re:They'd be Roadfood if there weren't so !@#$ many of them - Tue, 07/12/11 2:55 PM
"On the positive side, they do tend to be clean."
 
Clean doesn't seem to be a requirement for Roadfood. 

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Re:They'd be Roadfood if there weren't so !@#$ many of them - Tue, 07/12/11 5:06 PM
If we all liked the same thing, there would be no point to this site. Me, I cringe at the thought of some of the places the popular kids around here think the sun rises and sets on, and have more than once been thoroughly disappointed by the quality and service of Roadfood-recommended establishments I've read rave reviews about. It's what makes the world go around.

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Re:They'd be Roadfood if there weren't so !@#$ many of them - Tue, 07/12/11 5:17 PM
I can't you guys how many "one of a kind" places I've been to. There was a good reason for a lot of them.

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Re:They'd be Roadfood if there weren't so !@#$ many of them - Wed, 07/13/11 2:47 AM
felix4067

If we all liked the same thing, there would be no point to this site. Me, I cringe at the thought of some of the places the popular kids around here think the sun rises and sets on, and have more than once been thoroughly disappointed by the quality and service of Roadfood-recommended establishments I've read rave reviews about. It's what makes the world go around.

I don't think every "Roadfood" type place has the best food available. Roadfood places rise and fall like any chain restaurants. Cooks have good days and bad days. Restaurants change owners and the food changes, sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse. What makes roadfood places unique is that they are unique. It might be the food, the servers, the owners, the decor, the history, the location, the reputation, the menu---something sets it apart from all others.
Do they all have great food and service all the time? No.
Are they unique? You Bet!

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Re:They'd be Roadfood if there weren't so !@#$ many of them - Fri, 07/15/11 2:54 PM
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One interesting case is the Howard Johnson chain. There are just three of them left, all in places I don't get to. AFAIK, their supply chain is gone and they are left to fend for themselves. Seems even the vendor who made the coating for their Tendersweet claims dropped the account because of insufficient volume. Google maps show the last commissary and ice cream plant in Brockton, Massachusetts bulldozed. Even the outsoured food manufacturers who took over are no longer providing product.

I'd be interested in hearing from members who have recently eaten in Bangor, Maine, Lake  George, NY, or Lake Placid, NY Howard Johnson's.

Same might apply to Golden Skillet, though there are more than 3 left, they have been left to fend for themselves, it seems.  They originally had quite a chain of them.  I keep meaning to get to one on the south side of town, there are several down south of the river.
 
As far as HoJos, last time I ate at HoJos was in Times Square in about 84 or 85 I think.  And it was one of the worst lunches I ever had (and at the time, I was used to school cafeteria food, so that is sayin something).  I had some kind of open faced sandwich with some kind of mystery meat in a brown gravy.  It was bad.  Never ate at a HoJos since.
 
 

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Re:They'd be Roadfood if there weren't so !@#$ many of them - Fri, 07/15/11 3:51 PM
Having been to both Versailles in Manhattan Beach, and Versailles in Miami, I don't think they are related (if they are, it's a distant family thing).   Same basic concept and menu, but the food is definitely a bit different.

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Re:They'd be Roadfood if there weren't so !@#$ many of them - Fri, 07/15/11 4:41 PM
I don't think so, either.  The one in L.A. is owned by the Orlando Garcia family, and the one here by the Felipe Valls family.  By the way, the original one in California is allegedly older than the one in Little Havana, which just celebrated its 40th anniversary.  The several La Carreta Restaurants here are also owned by the Valls family.
 
Here's an article about the Miami one's anniversary.
 
I know about the Versailles palace in France, but I wonder if they are both named after a restaurant in pre-Castro Cuba?

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Re:They'd be Roadfood if there weren't so !@#$ many of them - Sat, 07/16/11 6:39 AM
The decline and fall of HoJo's....
Several factors:
Howard died and young Bud Johnson took over.  He seemed to want to resolve his "daddy issues" by running the restaurant chain into the ground. 
The neighborhood restaurants were mostly franchised.  They drew on local customers (i.e., repeat business) and they had to keep people coming back.  The turnpike were company-owned and operated, plus they had to pay rent and concession fees to the turnpike authorities.  So they kept cutting costs and raising pricies to increase profits.  Not only did people avoid them on turnpikes (forcing them to increase prices again to make up for lost revenue), these unhappy customers stopped going to local HoJo's, too. 
Young Bud's brainstorm, again, was to increase prices.  They got in a cycle of higher prices, fewer customers, lower revenue, still higher prices ...  Bud thought he could justify the higher prices by making the places look more upscale, so you had HoJo's with wicker furniture, table cloths, ferns...   In addition to bad food and service, the decor also drove people away.  So, they tried changing the name of many locations (Ground Round) but that didn't work.  Finally they sold the company owned locations and sold franchise rights to a group of franchisees. 
 
When it started, original HoJo's with its classic menu items like french fried clams, baked beans in a pot with steamed brown bread and ice cream, sounds like it was Roadfood.  Ironically Friendly's started out to fill HoJo's niche but it has turned into a Krap Parlor, too.
 

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Re:They'd be Roadfood if there weren't so !@#$ many of them - Sat, 07/16/11 10:36 AM
I remember in the late 70s and early 80s, Cracker Barrel served the function of Roadfood for my family.  When we would make trips to visit my father's brother in Danville KY, we would always stop for a late breakfast at the only Cracker Barrel we knew of, somewhere on I-75 somewhere in Tennessee.  Just north of Knoxville, maybe?  This was a big part of our trip - eating there.
 
The really odd thing is that the store sold little Smurfs, imported from Europe, for many years before that Saturday morning cartoon started.  I still wonder how in the heck Cracker Barrel's country store buyer was sold on the idea of carrying those things when nobody in the US had any idea what they were.
 
Haven't been to a Cracker Barrel in about four years now, and that time was because we were meeting my childrens' mother at the White House TN exit on I-65 to exchange kids and it was that or McDonald's.  Wretched food.

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Re:They'd be Roadfood if there weren't so !@#$ many of them - Sat, 07/16/11 3:13 PM
Heartbreaksoup
The really odd thing is that the store sold little Smurfs, imported from Europe, for many years before that Saturday morning cartoon started.  I still wonder how in the heck Cracker Barrel's country store buyer was sold on the idea of carrying those things when nobody in the US had any idea what they were.

Don't know when the toys were at Cracker Barrel, but in 1968 they were a MAJOR merchandising icon in Europe (I remember billboards proclaiming "Smurf Mij! Smurf BP!"). So, advertising people certainly knew about them, even if Americans hadn't quite heard of them yet.
 
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Re:They'd be Roadfood if there weren't so !@#$ many of them - Sun, 07/17/11 12:15 AM
ow many locations of Versailles are there in California? I ate at the one in Palms and did not know of any others.

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Re:They'd be Roadfood if there weren't so !@#$ many of them - Sun, 07/17/11 7:21 AM
mr chips


ow many locations of Versailles are there in California? I ate at the one in Palms and did not know of any others.

mr chips, according to their web site, there are four in the California group.