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RE: Department Store dining...any memories? - Thu, 02/12/04 7:33 PM
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We always ate at the restaurant on first floor. Loved the celery dressing with beef or chicken gravy. Grilled nut bread. Chocolate ice cream cake ball.
The bakery,which was quite extensive was on same floor. Delicious butter mints in LOTS of flavors. They were little round flat candies with fork lines across top like on peanut butter cookies.
The store had many levels but we loved to be in the Front Street Level and go UP the escalator to the basement. We thought that was the funniest thing. I can taste it all now.
Lazarus was such a great family owned store. I was born and raised in Columbus but was lured to Indiana and worked for Lazarus here for 20 years. Lazarus family would come to Indianapolis to visit with employees at Christmas. So sad to see it go to Lazarus-Macy.

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RE: Department Store dining...any memories? - Thu, 02/12/04 8:06 PM
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Originally posted by lleechef

Cakes, what's a Green River?


Lleechef, Sugar;
You need to hie yourself to The Wilton Candy Kitchen in Wilton, Iowa and ask Mr. Napoulis (sp.?) what goes in one of those. Ten to one, he will answer "Oh, a little bit of this and a little bit of that," with a twinkle in his eye.
He can also make you a Green Lizard and a Hadacol. Betcha never learned about those in culinary school!
Livermushlessly, Ort. Carlton in Slow-Rainy, Grey (As Has Been The Norm Lately) Athens, Georgia.

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RE: Department Store dining...any memories? - Thu, 02/12/04 8:47 PM
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There used to be a local department store called Doerflinger's that had a tea room on the mezzanine. We'd order cherry or lemon Cokes and have chicken or egg salad sandwiches (always cut into four triangles) with potato salad or coleslaw, and look down on the shoppers on the floor below.

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RE: Department Store dining...any memories? - Thu, 02/12/04 10:20 PM
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Back in the 50's we had 2 soda fountains in small town USA, Akron, Iowa. As I remember it, the one had an actual Green River machine. Green River was/is a lime flavored syrup that was mixed with seltzer to make a soda pop just the way CokaCola was. I never remember seeing Green River bottled.

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RE: Department Store dining...any memories? - Fri, 02/13/04 9:24 AM
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Originally posted by Cakes

Back in the 50's we had 2 soda fountains in small town USA, Akron, Iowa. As I remember it, the one had an actual Green River machine. Green River was/is a lime flavored syrup that was mixed with seltzer to make a soda pop just the way CokaCola was. I never remember seeing Green River bottled.

Cakes

In the 50's Green River was distributed in one gallon glass bottles, just like Coke syrup. The concentrated syrup was stored in a Green River Machine, which was a storage container provided by the company. To make a Green River, the soda jerk would add seltzer water to some syrup in a glass. Green River sodas made with vanilla ice cream were a popular fountain creation. Get one today at your local Ed Debevic's. I remember Green River in glass bottles in the 60's and only recently in cans and plastic bottles.

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RE: Department Store dining...any memories? - Fri, 02/13/04 10:28 AM
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Just had another flash of a memory....not exactly a department store restaurant memory but....there was once, eons ago, a department store in Columbus, Ohio, named Moby's. They had what was probably like a deli and made their own potato chips, which smelled delicious.

Mom would shop at Moby's occasionally on Friday and would buy a piece of "Thuringer," which was really Lebanon Bologna, and would pop it into the oven and heat it through for our Friday night supper sandwiches. That and their potato chips were really treats, as we didn't get to eat out very much, and so anything that came in from a deli was as much a treat as eating out. Moby's has been long gone from the scene in Columbus.

As someone said a few messages back, "progress." Columbus has lost a lot of stores in the last 50 years; Moby's, The Boston Store, Morehouse-Fashion, some others I can't remember the names of, and now Lazarus and Big Bear are biting the dust!!! Progress, indeed!

Didn't mean to get so far off the topic. Sorry.

Donna

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RE: Department Store dining...any memories? - Fri, 02/13/04 1:06 PM
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Would eating at Ikea count?


do you have to assemble the food by yourself as well? and can you just throw the food out when it breaks mid-meal and not really feel bad that you wasted money?

just curious....

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RE: Department Store dining...any memories? - Fri, 02/13/04 2:13 PM
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Hee hee! I laughed at the Ikea post!

I was reminiscing about a bad first date that I had soon after coming to NYC. Having grown up in L.A. and gone to school in IA, the lunch counter at Woolworth's held great mystique for me. Add the Civil Rights history in "My Soul is Rested," and what wouldn't be more appealing?

The tall, lanky, boy-nerd (hey, I was a girl nerd) who invited me out to eat turned up his nose at the idea. "Eating at a department store? Who would want to eat at a place that doesn't specialize in eating?"

Well, I wasn't looking for gourmet- I was looking for history. We had a lame date and I went to eat at Woolworth's later on.

--Valerie in NYC

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RE: Department Store dining...any memories? - Fri, 02/13/04 2:53 PM
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I worked in a bank on the square in downtown Charlotte for many years. Across the street was an Ivy's department store where there was a restaurant called the Tulip Terrace. The food there was fabulous, and you could usually get things that weren't available to the lunch crowd anywhere else. I remember a raisin bread/cream cheese sandwich that was delicious. The ambience at the Terrace was urban chic, and occasionally it was a nice change from burgers and "down home" eating.

Sadly, they closed Ivy's a long time ago, and converted the building into downtown condos with selling prices in the stratosphere.

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RE: Department Store dining...any memories? - Fri, 02/13/04 3:15 PM
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Where was Moby's in Columbus? I can't recall location but I do remember the name but not the chips. Don't forget the Union. Didn't they have a little snack bar?

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RE: Department Store dining...any memories? - Fri, 02/13/04 3:17 PM
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Originally posted by lleechef

Cakes, what's a Green River?
A Green River is a flowing body of water. There's one in Wyoming and one more that I know of in Utah. There's even a Green River that's a town on the Green River in Utah. I remember having country fried steak in a truck stop in the Green River that's a town back in 1979. As I recall, it came with mashed potatoes and gravy, and green beans.

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RE: Department Store dining...any memories? - Fri, 02/13/04 3:19 PM
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Originally posted by Donna Douglass

Just had another flash of a memory....not exactly a department store restaurant memory but....there was once, eons ago, a department store in Columbus, Ohio, named Moby's. They had what was probably like a deli and made their own potato chips, which smelled delicious.

Mom would shop at Moby's occasionally on Friday and would buy a piece of "Thuringer," which was really Lebanon Bologna, and would pop it into the oven and heat it through for our Friday night supper sandwiches. That and their potato chips were really treats, as we didn't get to eat out very much, and so anything that came in from a deli was as much a treat as eating out. Moby's has been long gone from the scene in Columbus.

As someone said a few messages back, "progress." Columbus has lost a lot of stores in the last 50 years; Moby's, The Boston Store, Morehouse-Fashion, some others I can't remember the names of, and now Lazarus and Big Bear are biting the dust!!! Progress, indeed!

Didn't mean to get so far off the topic. Sorry.

Donna


Don't forget the gone but not forgotten Union.

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RE: Department Store dining...any memories? - Fri, 02/13/04 3:53 PM
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Originally posted by clothier

A quick Columbus question, if I may?

Why are all those stores closing? Did a big national retailer come in and put them out of business?

All but Lazarus closed years ago. The most recent was the Union, and that closed in the 1970s after being bought by Halle's of Cleveland. The Lazarus store that is closing is the original in downtown Columbus. There are still at least five other Lazarus stores (all part of Federated, and now called Lazarus-Macy's) in Columbus at malls and shopping centers.

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RE: Department Store dining...any memories? - Fri, 02/13/04 4:29 PM
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Originally posted by Ort. Carlton.

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Originally posted by lleechef

Cakes, what's a Green River?


Lleechef, Sugar;
You need to hie yourself to The Wilton Candy Kitchen in Wilton, Iowa and ask Mr. Napoulis (sp.?) what goes in one of those. Ten to one, he will answer "Oh, a little bit of this and a little bit of that," with a twinkle in his eye.
He can also make you a Green Lizard and a Hadacol. Betcha never learned about those in culinary school!
Livermushlessly, Ort. Carlton in Slow-Rainy, Grey (As Has Been The Norm Lately) Athens, Georgia.

Ort.,
Again YOU are correct. I STILL don't know what a Green River is and have even LESS of a clue about the Green Lizard and a Hadacol. And again YOU are correct, I never heard of this stuff in culinary school in Paris. Where's Anne Willan? Oh! She's at the Greenbriar, never mind.
Livermushlessly also in the cold Arctic, awaiting the Iditarod.
lleechef

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RE: Department Store dining...any memories? - Fri, 02/13/04 4:46 PM
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Moby's was located on North High Street near either Long or Spring Street. As for The Union having a snack bar, I don't know as we couldn't afford to shop The Union back when they were located downtown. In later years when I worked I shopped The Union at Graceland and Kingsdale and they didn't have snack bars in those stores.

Saw in the Dispatch this morning that two more Lazarus stores are closing. Westerville and one other, can't remember which one. Sad.

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RE: Department Store dining...any memories? - Sat, 02/14/04 1:07 PM
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when does the great race start?

and are you volunteering to do anything this year?

Saturday March 6 in Anchorage is the ceremonial start. They run down 4th Ave. and wave to everyone then head out to Campbell Park. From there they pack everything back up in the trucks and head out to Wasilla for the REAL race start on Sunday. From there it's 1049 miles to Nome. Follow the race at www.iditarod.com
Not volunteering for anything this year, we were gone too much during the organizational stages.

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RE: Department Store dining...any memories? - Sat, 02/14/04 3:18 PM
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DITTO Kland01s!

Christmas shopping down in the loop and a lunch at Marshall Fields. Also, saw Santa while my brother and I were there. I remember the great tree in the middle, fantastic!

No clue if it is still there. I know Marshall Fields is still around but the last time my wife and I went to the loop store was about 7 years ago before we moved to Denver. The candy shop they had was also awesome, the best Turtles in the world!

Don

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RE: Department Store dining...any memories? - Sat, 02/14/04 6:53 PM
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Christmas shopping down in the loop and a lunch at Marshall Fields. Also, saw Santa while my brother and I were there. I remember the great tree in the middle, fantastic!



That jogged a memory. When I was about 6, our local Halle's in Cleveland held a "Breakfast With Santa" in the toy department one Christmas season. It was lots of fun; I was shy around "Santa" and I think the breakfast was pancakes and hot cocoa, although I can't be too sure....

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RE: Department Store dining...any memories? - Sun, 02/15/04 6:05 PM
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Time: 1950’s – the day after Thanksgiving

Cast of characters: Aunt Betty (who didn’t have any children), my cousins Joann, Carol and me

Costumes: Our best Sunday dresses, hats and white gloves; our glamorous “career woman” aunt in her mink coat and blazing red lipstick

Setting: Philadelphia PA

After an exciting morning riding the train around the ceiling of Lits Bros. toy department, gazing in store windows and visiting Santa and the animated Christmas village at Gimbels, we wearily sunk into the striped chairs, soft lighting, big linen napkins and wood paneled walls of the John Wanamaker tea room. Our meal never varied - a cup of soup, triple-decker tea sandwiches with ham salad and pimento cream cheese fillings, a pot of tea and a dish of chocolate ice cream and orange sherbet for dessert. After lunch, we would go see Wanamaker’s lighted fountain display accompanied by organ music and then off to see the animated elves making our gifts in Santa’s workshop.

That trip was always Aunt Betty’s Christmas gift to us and we felt like fairy princesses sitting in that luxurious tearoom. I can see it like it was yesterday.



Yes! Yes! Wanamaker's Crystal Tea Room! And we used to go to this Christmas display at Lit Brothers http://members.aol.com/robotweb/village.html I may be Jewish but I was enthralled by it!

There was nothing like that shopping experience at Wanamaker's in town.

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RE: Department Store dining...any memories? - Mon, 02/16/04 3:22 AM
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The May Company we went to in the 1970s had a U-shaped diner in the basement. The basement was a clearance center where everything was hung askew and grown women elbowed eachother over huge piles of marked-down clothing. The flickering florescent lights and anachronistic trio of perfectly rounded scoops of tuna, chicken and some mystery salad over lettuce added to the surreal atmosphere.

Sometimes the pre-teen girls from their "charm school" had a fashion show for the lunch crowd. Years later, when my mother registered me for the same "charm school" (talk about anachronisms), the diner was gone, so we had to be "live mannequins" posed out on the floor in humiliating late 70s teen fashions. You had to stay perfectly frozen while strange men tried to make you crack a smile as you prayed to every saint you could name that no one from school would come in. The only good part was scaring the bejesus out of small children.

But eating out was always a thrill for me, more thrilling in its rarity. So I remember the pre-packaged little ham sandwiches on hamburger buns from K-Mart, doled out from a refrigerated case right in the middle of the store, as fondly as just about any other meal I ate as a child.

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RE: Department Store dining...any memories? - Mon, 02/16/04 3:33 AM
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served in white milk glass chicken shaped crock.


I want one of those, too! Where can I get one?


Milk glass is a collectible...check out Ebay.

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RE: Department Store dining...any memories? - Mon, 02/16/04 7:47 AM
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Would eating at Ikea count?


Had exactly the same thought. It's a bit zooey there on a weekend, but on a nice slow weekday, a plate of Swedish meatballs in a Nordic-themed cafeteria that overlooks the freeway, is about as good as it gets right now. Wonder how my kids will remember eating at Ikea??

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RE: Department Store dining...any memories? - Mon, 02/16/04 9:25 AM
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Originally posted by Ort. Carlton.


Originally posted by lleechef

Cakes, what's a Green River?


Ort.,
Again YOU are correct. I STILL don't know what a Green River is...
lleechef


Green River is a lime flavored green colored pop that's been around since 1919.

You can find Green River at: www.beveragesdirect.com/products/greenriver/

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RE: Department Store dining...any memories? - Mon, 02/16/04 9:56 AM
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Originally posted by Ort. Carlton.


He can also make you a Green Lizard and a Hadacol. Betcha never learned about those in culinary school!



Thank you chicagostyledog for the info on Green River! I never heard of it.

Now can anyone tell me about the two that Ort. mentioned....Green Lizard and a Hadacol?

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RE: Department Store dining...any memories? - Mon, 02/16/04 10:33 AM
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I was nursing a champagne and foie gras hangover and skipped it entirely.

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RE: Department Store dining...any memories? - Mon, 02/16/04 11:00 AM
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Originally posted by Ort. Carlton.


He can also make you a Green Lizard and a Hadacol. Betcha never learned about those in culinary school!



Thank you chicagostyledog for the info on Green River! I never heard of it.

Now can anyone tell me about the two that Ort. mentioned....Green Lizard and a Hadacol?


"A Green Lizard is a very popular drink on the north slope of Alaska, which is technically alcohol-free. You mix a bottle of NyQuil and 16oz of Sprite." This will take care of your runny nose and solve all your problems for the evening. Just don't drink and go mushing. Halacol is a potent alcoholic elixer. Mixing Halacol and a Green Lizard could be a dangerous combination.

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RE: Department Store dining...any memories? - Mon, 02/16/04 12:30 PM
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Originally posted by chicagostyledog

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Originally posted by lleechef

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Originally posted by Ort. Carlton.


He can also make you a Green Lizard and a Hadacol. Betcha never learned about those in culinary school!



Thank you chicagostyledog for the info on Green River! I never heard of it.

Now can anyone tell me about the two that Ort. mentioned....Green Lizard and a Hadacol?


"A Green Lizard is a very popular drink on the north slope of Alaska, which is technically alcohol-free. You mix a bottle of NyQuil and 16oz of Sprite." This will take care of your runny nose and solve all your problems for the evening. Just don't drink and go mushing. Halacol is a potent alcoholic elixer. Mixing Halacol and a Green Lizard could be a dangerous combination.


Isn't that a Professor Longhair song "..since I put my name on the Halacol list..."

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RE: Department Store dining...any memories? - Fri, 02/20/04 10:54 AM
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There was a department store in downtown Allentown PA called Hess's that had a restaurant named The Patio... they were famous for their kids hamburgers that were served in a toy metal oven, models who would show off the latest fashion (including the bathing suits during January) , and their mile high strawberry pie that was at least 8" tall and just loaded with fresh strawberries . Unfortunately, they fell victim to over expansion and closed their doors.

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RE: Department Store dining...any memories? - Sat, 02/21/04 1:30 PM
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I think I missed the department store dining boat, but does museum dining count? I used to love having lunch at the cafeteria while visiting the Franklin Institute in Philadelphia. It is still the image that comes to mind when I get a whiff of greasy hamburger aroma. There was something so neat about going through the line with your tray and selecting what you wanted, and the sandwiches were smartly packaged in waxed paper with the word "HAMBURGER" OR "CHEESEBURGER" printed on it repeatedly like a decorative element.

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RE: Department Store dining...any memories? - Mon, 02/23/04 5:02 PM
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Are there any Clevelanders out there who remember the Silver Grille (at the downtown Higbee's if I remember correctly) I was there as a kid whenever we went Christmas shopping downtown and was always impressed by the elegance. It must have closed ages ago, along with all 6 of downtown's department stores. My favorite was going to Halle's seventh floor to see Mr. Jingaling every Christmas (guess since it's still snowing up here my mind is still on Christmas)

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RE: Department Store dining...any memories? - Mon, 02/23/04 8:48 PM
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I have to go with Woolworths counters. Grilled cheese and a cherry coke poured from an old fashioned soda fountian brings back memories.

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RE: Department Store dining...any memories? - Tue, 02/24/04 7:03 AM
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Re Woolworth's:
That brought back memories of dime store lunch counters. Rootbeer from a huge barrel and hot dogs. Turkey& dressing with mashed potatoes and tiny dab of cranberry sauce at their lunch counter. Not near as good as Mom's but fun-kind of like tv dinner

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RE: Department Store dining...any memories? - Sun, 07/24/05 10:02 AM
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That last post about the Turkey & Dressing and whipped potatoes took me back to my childhood. I just turned 29 and up until I was about ten or eleven the local K-Mart store that I had served up some of the best tasting (cheap) dinners. My favorite was the Turkey dinner though. I think it cost $3.99 if memory serves me (we didn't have a lot of money back then so I know it had to be cheap for momma to let me eat it all the time). You got a couple turkey slices, turkey and dressing and my favorite part of it was their mashed potatoes. Now I am a real mashed potato fan, but, their fake ones were awseome, I wish I knew how to make it and the gravy which they put on it was also a thing of many of my dreams. The K-Mart eateries which are still left serve nothing more than sandwiches, pizza, etc, the standard snack bar fare. OH how I miss the old days!!!!!!!

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RE: Department Store dining...any memories? - Sun, 07/24/05 10:14 AM
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My wife dragged me to the Chintz Room once. That was the only time I was ever in the downtown store. One thing I just cannot do is call it Lazarus-Macy's.

Is it any easier now, just to call it Macy's ???

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RE: Department Store dining...any memories? - Sun, 07/24/05 2:59 PM
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Back in the 1950s & 60s (pre-riots), Newark, NJ was a shopping destination for many people. The department stores--from the bottom end to the top, included S. Klein, Ohrbach's, Bamberger's (owned by Macy's), and Hahne's (Notice how companies actually knew how to use apostrophes in those days?).

I am not even sure if S. Klein had a restaurant, since it was very low end. But all of the others did, and I fondly remember the best of them--The Pine Room at Hahne's. I don't recall what I ate there, but, as a kid, I do recall being impressed by the genteel "white-glove" atmosphere.

My brother and I had an amusing experience at the lunch counter/cafeteria in Ohrbach's. We were going to get tuna sandwiches, but when we saw the vessel of tuna salad that the woman was going to dip into, we hestitated. It had a dried crust on the top of it, and looked distinctly unappetizing. When she noted our hesitation, the woman behind the counter said, "Oh, it just needs to be turned over", and she proceeded to mix the dried, crusty top into the rest of the tuna. At this sight, our stomachs decided to turn over, we both decided to let someone else subject himself to the apparently aged tuna salad, and we walked out. This was clearly a few notches below the Pine Room at Hahne's!


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RE: Department Store dining...any memories? - Sun, 07/24/05 4:37 PM
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I also used to go to the Kmart diners as a kid in Lafayette, IN. They were very good, despite being attached to Kmart. My dad and grandfather would go there and drink their Sanka and smoke, and I would turn over the paper mats and draw on them. We'd also go there after fishing in the Wabash. I don't even really remember the food!

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RE: Department Store dining...any memories? - Sun, 07/24/05 5:53 PM
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In New York, both Bloomingdale's and Saks Fifth Avenue still maintain their dining rooms with full menus. I haven't been to Bloomingdale's in a while, but Saks is still quite nice...a full luncheon menu, and waiters/waitresses dressed elegantly in ties, white shirts, and vests. The other advantage of Saks' dining room is the gorgeous view you have, if you sit by the windows, of St. Patrick's Cathedral.

Also, Lord and Taylor's in New York still maintains its dining room, but as I recall, the menu is much simpler than either Bloomingdale's or Saks'.

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RE: Department Store dining...any memories? - Sun, 07/24/05 5:55 PM
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WT Grants at the CT POst Shopping Center. When I worked at Stop and Shop we would go there for the all you can eat meals. Turkey was the best.

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RE: Department Store dining...any memories? - Sun, 07/24/05 6:03 PM
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I too dined in the Tea Room at Wanamaker's in downtown Philly. My favorite was nearly always the BLT club, but there was one dish I wanted to try so badly and I ordered it once: it was a fruit salad that came in a scooped-out pineapple "boat;" it also had scoops of sherbert, I think. It was quite a bit of food for a kid, though!

The grand tea rooms of department stores seem to have become a thing of the past! In the DC area, the Woodward and Lothrop ("Woodies") store downtown had a tea room very similar to the Wanamaker's one in Philly; I ate there several times, while I was working downtown, especially during the holiday season--Woodies also had pretty nice Christmas window displays, although nothing quite as spectactular as the Wanamaker's Christmas display!

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RE: Department Store dining...any memories? - Sun, 07/24/05 6:52 PM
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Time: 1950#8217;s #8211; the day after Thanksgiving

Cast of characters: Aunt Betty (who didn#8217;t have any children), my cousins Joann, Carol and me

Costumes: Our best Sunday dresses, hats and white gloves; our glamorous #8220;career woman#8221; aunt in her mink coat and blazing red lipstick

Setting: Philadelphia PA

After an exciting morning riding the train around the ceiling of Lits Bros. toy department, gazing in store windows and visiting Santa and the animated Christmas village at Gimbels, we wearily sunk into the striped chairs, soft lighting, big linen napkins and wood paneled walls of the John Wanamaker tea room. Our meal never varied - a cup of soup, triple-decker tea sandwiches with ham salad and pimento cream cheese fillings, a pot of tea and a dish of chocolate ice cream and orange sherbet for dessert. After lunch, we would go see Wanamaker#8217;s lighted fountain display accompanied by organ music and then off to see the animated elves making our gifts in Santa#8217;s workshop.

That trip was always Aunt Betty#8217;s Christmas gift to us and we felt like fairy princesses sitting in that luxurious tearoom. I can see it like it was yesterday.


I could have written your memory as if it was mine-- only without your Aunt Betty who was obviously, a wonderful Aunt! My Mom would take me to Wanamakers around Christmas but at a few other times throughout the year, and I always loved the Crystal Tea Room where we'd stop for lunch in the early to late '60's. Although there were other items on the menu, we always got the cup of soup and tea sandwiches. I always had to ride the monorail that hung from the ceiling of Wanamaker's toy department. And the Christmas display with music, narration, fountains and lights was such a treat. Remember that people used to say "Meet me at the eagle"-- that large bronze eagle that sat on the first floor of Wanamaker's. A friend and I stopped in to the Wanamaker's building after it was changed to a Lord & Taylor a few years ago. I think L&T only occupied the first 2 floors or so. It felt so sad to not have all those 9 floors of Wanamaker's to explore, with the Crystal Tea Room at the top.

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RE: Department Store dining...any memories? - Mon, 08/1/05 9:51 PM
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My grandmother would take my sisters and me to the Meier and Frank store in downtown Portland . We would look at the marvelous toys, grandma would buy some clothes and we would drink hot chocolate upstairs. I fidgeted a lot. Now Meier and Frank has been bought out by Macy"s and will no longer exist. This makes me sad

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RE: Department Store dining...any memories? - Mon, 08/1/05 10:04 PM
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In Atlanta, it was the Magnolia Room at Rich's-I don't really remember the one downtown, but Lenox and North Dekalb both had them as well, and it was where my grandmother would take me on our shopping expeditions(by the late 60's, she no longer was brave enough to drive downtown). It was also THE place for bridal & baby showers. Each lady had a luncheon plate of chicken salad, a frozen salad, and cheese straws: and of course, sweet iced tea to drink, with lemon.

The Rich's at North Dekalb also had a little lunch counter between the "regular" store and the "budget store which I think was called the "Inn Between." Mom would take us there (my brothers were not couth enough to go upstairs),

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RE: Department Store dining...any memories? - Mon, 08/1/05 10:14 PM
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That last post about the Turkey & Dressing and whipped potatoes took me back to my childhood. I just turned 29 and up until I was about ten or eleven the local K-Mart store that I had served up some of the best tasting (cheap) dinners. My favorite was the Turkey dinner though. I think it cost $3.99 if memory serves me (we didn't have a lot of money back then so I know it had to be cheap for momma to let me eat it all the time). You got a couple turkey slices, turkey and dressing and my favorite part of it was their mashed potatoes. Now I am a real mashed potato fan, but, their fake ones were awseome, I wish I knew how to make it and the gravy which they put on it was also a thing of many of my dreams. The K-Mart eateries which are still left serve nothing more than sandwiches, pizza, etc, the standard snack bar fare. OH how I miss the old days!!!!!!!


I have quite fond memories of the Kmart eateries only. I was assistant manager at 2 Kmart stores in '81 - 82 the first was a converted W T Grant store and instead of the 'Kmart Cafeteria' we actually had a 'Bradford House Restaurant'. Since we inherited all the plates silverware, menu folders, etc with the Bradford House logo we just kept using them. We had all the usual Kmart Cafeteria fare along with more 'dinners' and deserts. We actually made great Ice Cream Sandwiches with fresh made chocolate chip cookies and hand dipped Sealtest/Breyers ice cream. YUM YUM.

Anyway, I know how the instant mashed potatoes were made. Now the question is.....Do you WANT know?

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RE: Department Store dining...any memories? - Mon, 08/1/05 11:07 PM
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Man,in the 70's Kmart was the coolest place.They had the only Icee machine in the area,I bought my first pair of Nikes there,they had the Blue Light specials,they had cheap clothes that were different from the other stores (though they didnt last thru too many washings,but thats OK.)
The restaurant,such as it was,had the "Crispy Fried Steak" which was pretty good.Their record department was right up there too,you could get good deals on 8-tracks.I even remember when the first 40 channel CB radios came out,I got a Pace unit for like 45 dollars.It was a fun place to shop.

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RE: Department Store dining...any memories? - Tue, 08/2/05 7:34 AM
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Hello all. I live in Hinton, Va., (a small dot that usually only appears on local maps) which is in the Shenadoah Valley. 5 miles to the east of us is the city of Harrisonburg. Back in the early 1960's, when I was just leaving my toddler stage and becoming aware of things outside of myself and my family, going to Harrisonburg on Saturdays was a cultural, educational experience. We weren't rich, but just easing out of poverty, and if you combed my hair, a few hayseeds would fall to the ground. Most consumer activities revolved around Court Square in Harrisonburg. Court Square is what it sounds like, a court house in the middle of the town, surrounded by four streets which can be walked around in three minutes. It was compact, but in that little square was a J.C. Penneys, a Woolworth, a W. T. Grants, a McCroy store, and various local businesses. There were no strip malls, or covered malls, just other businesses leading off to the four winds from Court Square.
There was blind man who supported his family by playing an accordion and singing, usually in front of Penneys or McCroys, always giving a fast "Thank you," at the sound of a coin dropping into a small tin cup attached to his instrument. It was always a special gift to us kids when our parents gave us a nickel, dime, or quarter to drop into his cup. When downtown dried up and moved to malls, he disappeared because the mall managements didn't want him begging at their establishments. But he wasn't begging, he was an artist performing to a loving audience.
McCroy's had a wooden floor, and as a child I loved to roam the store discovering places where the floor would squeak. They made the best fries, but the floor at the "restaurant" was linoleum (think I spelled that wrong). Woolsworth had the best burgers and fountain drinks. Those cokes were liquid gold compared to the dregs we drink in cans and plastic bottles. I liked to sit at the counter stools rather than the soft, fat cushioned booths, because I could twirl around on the stools. And if we were good, we could go to the candy counter and get a nickels worth of malt balls, chocolate covered peanuts, or my gosh, it seemed like a thousand different types of candies. A nickel's worth of malt balls would halfway fill a small, brown paper bag. Woolworth, Grant's, and McCroy each had a candy counter conveniently located in front of the toy section and next to the luncheon section. Genius marketing.
The smells of the food, the mingling of the different economical and social classes, and the celebrations of seasons and holidays made downtown department stores magical. The only sad thing I recall is that people of color had special sections to sit at some stores or weren't even welcomed at others. Now it taints my memory a bit, but that too was an education for me that ,thank God, my children have not experienced. Take care.

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RE: Department Store dining...any memories? - Tue, 08/2/05 12:49 PM
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Ivey's and Belk's in downtown Charlotte were destination shopping places in years gone by. Before the malls (and before Hecht's bought Ivey's) a trip to downtown for pre-school shopping was required.

In Japan it is still this way. The grocery stores and restaurants are the bottom three floors of the "departmentos".

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RE: Department Store dining...any memories? - Tue, 08/2/05 3:45 PM
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Rike's and Elder-Beerman's in Dayton, Ohio both had restaurants. I remember feeling really special when my mom took me to the Gold Coin Room in Rike's. It had "lanes" for the customers to line up in to be seated for lunch - the first "lane" had a little sign on it for 1-2 diners, the second was 3-4 diners, and so on. As I recall, there were 4 lanes. Rikes also had a snack bar in the basement and a cafeteria on the mezzanine. I think there was another restaurant on the same floor as the Gold Coin Room, but I can't remember the name.

Beerman's had a restaurant in its downtown store (now closed) until at least the late 1980s (maaaayyybbbee the early 1990s, but I'm not so sure). There was a waitress at that restaurant who had come over from the old Beerman's store, and before then from the lunch counter at McCrory's. I swear, she must've worked as a waitress for 50 years. I always left her a big tip. *SIGH* What nice memories of more elegant times.

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RE: Department Store dining...any memories? - Tue, 08/2/05 5:55 PM
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Originally posted by lleechef

Cakes, what's a Green River?

A lime-flavored soda (more syrupy than most colas). Farrell's Ice Cream Parlour in San Diego serves Green River as a fountain drink. That's the only way I knew it until I found it in bottles in Riddle, Oregon several years ago. Nowadays, Hawthorne's Sundae Saloon in Escondido, CA has GR in bottles and also serves a Green River Freeze (think rootbeer float, but with GR)

About Dept Store Dining: My Grandmother was definitely a "Tea Room" kind of Lady (with a capital-L). I always thought it was funny when she would talk about going to a birthday luncheon at Buffums with her friends. Why would you go to a dept. store for lunch??? and how is luncheon different from lunch??? I only went there with her once; my introduction to Monte Cristo sandwiches. Why don't more places serve those?

My (early teen) friends and I thought we were really hot stuff when we took the bus to Mission Valley and went "out to eat", without our parents!, at Woolworth's. Come to think of it, we were eating in a dept store, but that never struck me as odd, like it did for Buffums. Hmmm....

The highlight of our back-to-school shopping trips at Sears was stopping at the candy counter to get Swedish Fish (the ONLY kind of fish I would eat, as a child!)


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RE: Department Store dining...any memories? - Wed, 08/3/05 8:01 PM
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The Higbee's at what's now Tower City (Cleveland, OH) had a full service restaurant, but the name escapes me. It closed when the store became Dillard's (It's closed too).

The former Woolworth at Eastwood Mall (Niles, OH) had just a snack bar at the time it closed, but it may have been full service at one time. I know the one at Severence (Cleveland) was full service.

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RE: Department Store dining...any memories? - Wed, 08/3/05 8:19 PM
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I never ate there, but the Zodiac Room in Neiman-Marcus in Dallas was suppose to be the cat's meow.


During the early 80's I "had" to drive my aunt to Neiman Marcus in Dallas. In a smaller coffee shop somewhere in the store, we had sprout sandwiches at my aunt's suggestion. Needless to say, the store and the menu did not suit the tastes of a teenage boy! Hey buddy, ya gotta cheeseburger in there?

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RE: Department Store dining...any memories? - Wed, 08/3/05 8:37 PM
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Big Dave, you mean the Silver Grille? I ate there as a child many a time. They served your little chicken pot pie in a play cardboard oven you could take home. On your birthday you always got a little baby cake with a candle stuck in it.

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RE: Department Store dining...any memories? - Wed, 08/3/05 10:52 PM
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The Silver Grille. Thanks for jogging my memory.

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RE: Department Store dining...any memories? - Wed, 08/3/05 11:14 PM
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That was so much fun for kids! not anything like going to the chain place.
real silverware, linen placemats and napkins, the waitress would treat you like another grown up.
It was so worth waiting for after mom was done looking at clothes and cosmetics.
I remember looking at the menu so seriously, knowing all the time I had to have my cardboard oven for my barbies to cook on.

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RE: Department Store dining...any memories? - Wed, 08/3/05 11:14 PM
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Oh yes! The swedish fish at Sears! (Thanks Salustra) Does anyone remember the distinctive smell of the nut & candy counter? Hard to describe...but sort of sweet, salty and toffee-like. Great memory.

Nordstrom has a nice cafe in their department stores. More upscale than he Buffums and Woolworth's of yesteryear. I enjoy their grilled sandwiches on marble rye and jumbo snickerdoodles. De-lish.

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RE: Department Store dining...any memories? - Wed, 08/10/05 12:10 PM
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Heh heh ... When I was a teenager in Erie, Pa., we'd go to the snack bar in the basement of the Boston Store and do horrible teenage-type things like loosen the lids on the salt and pepper shakers, etc. We most likely would have been tossed out of the "nice" restaurant upstairs.

My sister and I also were great devotees of the nut and candy counter at Sears. I can still remember the yummy smell. While my mom shopped, my dad would buy us a small bag of nuts and/or M&Ms, and we'd go out to the car and have an "M&M Picnic".

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RE: Department Store dining...any memories? - Fri, 08/19/05 5:39 AM
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Back in the '70's, when I was working in downtown Cincinnati, my co-workers and I used to love to eat in the "Camargo Room" of the old Pogue's Department Store. Their home-made soups were a big draw. One of us would give the place a call at 11:00 and find out what the soup du jour was going to be. If it was going to be cream of asparagus, we were there! Also, the old Shillito Department Store had a coffee shop on the first floor that served the savory "Seven Hills" sandwich which seems to have resembled "loose meat burgers" mentioned in other threads. It was excellent. They also served a dessert of mint ice cream topped with excellent hot fudge and walnuts.

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RE: Department Store dining...any memories? - Fri, 08/19/05 7:50 AM
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pacman,

Just read your msg from 1 Aug and yes, I would like to know how K-Mart instant potatos were made!!! Please, pretty please?

I also loved eating at Woolworths (veggie plate/corn sticks), Grants (grilled hot dog & bun), Kresge's (hot dogs) as well as a local favorite here at Nachman's. In Richmond, loved eating at Thalheimer's and Miller and Rhoades.. some of the best food memories were at these dept stores....

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RE: Department Store dining...any memories? - Fri, 08/19/05 10:05 AM
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does anyone remember reads in the trumbull shopping park? turned into I think a g fox and than a filenes. they had a restaurant on the top floor with a fancy fish tamk by the counter and than tables in the back that had a lovely view of the parking lot.
remember drinking tea and having pie there when i was in junior high...those were the days

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RE: Department Store dining...any memories? - Fri, 08/19/05 10:09 AM
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The Sears comments bring back great, funny memories! ours in Cleveland was on west 110th and Lorain ave.
My dad was addicted to the popcorn they sold, it was like crack to him,he was not able to leave the store without a big fresh box!
Mom loved the sponge candy, it was the only place around we could find it. off the back entrance was a stand up grill where you could grab a hot dog and a coke, though we never did. And yes, the nuts smelled awesome!

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RE: Department Store dining...any memories? - Fri, 08/19/05 11:54 AM
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I always used to eat at Eaton's with my mother. I'd always get the chicken pot pie with a scoop of mashed potatoes and a dark gravy poured over everything. Then for dessert I'd get a bowl of chocolate pudding, which by the time I'd get it would sort of go hard and have this rubbery skin on top and fake whipped cream...I loved it. Then Wal-Mart came and killed Eaton's. :(

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