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Russ Jackson
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Re:I was looking through the Hot Dog section and found this disturbing thread: - Thu, 01/12/12 11:25 AM
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Since my return, I have posted a request for help with a technical issue that is making it tough for me to continue posting and have been roundly ignored by both Mods and any Admin's.  


Moderators do not have access to the inner working of the forum software, so we really cannot make the changes you request or even investigate why things work as they do. Sorry.

As to the comments about a lack of posts that are worth reading...something I hear/read quite often...this community is dependent on what the members contribute. There is no team of paid writers who are hard at work producing material for your enjoyment. As good old Aristotle said a couple of thousand years ago, you get out what you put in. Pretty simple concept.

 
So I guess there is no control as to the success or failure. Moderators cannot control the the temperament of the forum. Keeping threads on topic and fresh is not possible? Adding new and energetic Moderators wouldn't help either I guess....Russ

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Re:I was looking through the Hot Dog section and found this disturbing thread: - Thu, 01/12/12 11:47 AM
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Since my return, I have posted a request for help with a technical issue that is making it tough for me to continue posting and have been roundly ignored by both Mods and any Admin's.  


Moderators do not have access to the inner working of the forum software, so we really cannot make the changes you request or even investigate why things work as they do. Sorry.

As to the comments about a lack of posts that are worth reading...something I hear/read quite often...this community is dependent on what the members contribute. There is no team of paid writers who are hard at work producing material for your enjoyment. As good old Aristotle said a couple of thousand years ago, you get out what you put in. Pretty simple concept.


So I guess there is no control as to the success or failure. Moderators cannot control the the temperament of the forum. Keeping threads on topic and fresh is not possible? Adding new and energetic Moderators wouldn't help either I guess....Russ

Don't take out your frustrations on the Moderators. Their pay scale and job description don't require them to take responsibility for saving the world. They do a lot of stuff behind the scenes that no one ever hears about to keep the site on an upper plain despite some posters attempts to promote negativity.
It's the responsibility of the posters, not the Moderators, to insure the success of the site. Keeping threads on topic and fresh is possible only if the members see to it that it happens. I'm as responsible for getting threads off track as anyone, but having a moderator PMing me every time I do so isn't going to improve my attitude toward the site. Take a lead from our beloved government - Constant intervention improves nothing---It makes it worse!
Adding some new moderators might help lessen the workload of the current ones. Would you like to Volunteer?

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Re:I was looking through the Hot Dog section and found this disturbing thread: - Thu, 01/12/12 11:50 AM
Russ Jackson

 So I guess there is no control as to the success or failure. Moderators cannot control the the temperament of the forum. Keeping threads on topic and fresh is not possible? Adding new and energetic Moderators wouldn't help either I guess....Russ

I am not sure I get what you are expecting. To me it is the contributions of posters that make this or any forum interesting and worth reading, and in turn, a success or failure. The mods try to remove spam, address situations that violate forum rules, move misplaced posts to proper areas, etc. To me the best moderation is the kind you don't even notice. 
 
I would really like to know how you would have the moderators keep things on topic and fresh? Should we delete any and all posts that aren't in lock step with the threads title? Fresh? Again, in my opinion that is dependent on what users contribute. As a moderator I have no control over that.
 
Energetic? Not sure if you are aware, but this is not a paid position. Mods do what they can, when they can. I and the other mods do an awful lot of sorting through posts, editing and deleting things, and keeping things pointed in the right direction that you never even see or know about. I have neither the time or interest to be a cheerleader and rally you or anyone into posting things of interest here. I wish you would, but that is your call.
 
 
 

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Re:I was looking through the Hot Dog section and found this disturbing thread: - Thu, 01/12/12 11:56 AM
Foodbme

 Don't take out your frustrations on the Moderators. Their pay scale and job description don't require them to take responsibility for saving the world. They do a lot of stuff behind the scenes that no one ever hears about to keep the site on an upper plain despite some posters attempts to promote negativity.
It's the responsibility of the posters, not the Moderators, to insure the success of the site. Keeping threads on topic and fresh is possible only if the members see to it that it happens. I'm as responsible for getting threads off track as anyone, but having a moderator PMing me every time I do so isn't going to improve my attitude toward the site. Take a lead from our beloved government - Constant intervention improves nothing---It makes it worse!
Adding some new moderators might help lessen the workload of the current ones. Would you like to Volunteer?

 
I saw your post only after I posted mine...so sorry for being redundant.
 
I just want to add that the moderators also note that interesting contributions have slowed of late, and we have all discussed what changes could be made to alter this. The fact is that there are many other places people post these days. Add to this a down economy that has changed people's travel habits, dining out habits, and perhaps even their desire to talk about such matters and you have what we have. If there was a simple solution, we would have done something already.

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Re:I was looking through the Hot Dog section and found this disturbing thread: - Thu, 01/12/12 12:03 PM
Tony Bad


Russ Jackson

So I guess there is no control as to the success or failure. Moderators cannot control the the temperament of the forum. Keeping threads on topic and fresh is not possible? Adding new and energetic Moderators wouldn't help either I guess....Russ

I am not sure I get what you are expecting. To me it is the contributions of posters that make this or any forum interesting and worth reading, and in turn, a success or failure. The mods try to remove spam, address situations that violate forum rules, move misplaced posts to proper areas, etc. To me the best moderation is the kind you don't even notice. 

I would really like to know how you would have the moderators keep things on topic and fresh? Should we delete any and all posts that aren't in lock step with the threads title? Fresh? Again, in my opinion that is dependent on what users contribute. As a moderator I have no control over that.

Energetic? Not sure if you are aware, but this is not a paid position. Mods do what they can, when they can. I and the other mods do an awful lot of sorting through posts, editing and deleting things, and keeping things pointed in the right direction that you never even see or know about. I have neither the time or interest to be a cheerleader and rally you or anyone into posting things of interest here. I wish you would, but that is your call.




 

 
Obviously you and I see things different. In this thread http://www.roadfood.com/forums/tm.aspx?m=681082&mpage=1#681282 I see no fault of the original poster. I put the blame on Foodbme. Sundancer threatens to bounce the original poster. One guy asks for information and to try to start a discussion. Gets shut down right out of the box FOR NO REASON other than to incite. I might be 100% wrong in my assumption. He cracked back A++ which isn't that bad. I bet he said to his Wife: Hey let me start a thread on Vegas at that cool site Rood Food with all the great information that we used the last two trips. Only to hear him use another term in disgust a few moments later. He then told her: Were on are own, no help there some guy blew it up....Russ
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Re:I was looking through the Hot Dog section and found this disturbing thread: - Thu, 01/12/12 12:15 PM
Russ Jackson


Tony Bad


Russ Jackson

So I guess there is no control as to the success or failure. Moderators cannot control the the temperament of the forum. Keeping threads on topic and fresh is not possible? Adding new and energetic Moderators wouldn't help either I guess....Russ

I am not sure I get what you are expecting. To me it is the contributions of posters that make this or any forum interesting and worth reading, and in turn, a success or failure. The mods try to remove spam, address situations that violate forum rules, move misplaced posts to proper areas, etc. To me the best moderation is the kind you don't even notice. 

I would really like to know how you would have the moderators keep things on topic and fresh? Should we delete any and all posts that aren't in lock step with the threads title? Fresh? Again, in my opinion that is dependent on what users contribute. As a moderator I have no control over that.

Energetic? Not sure if you are aware, but this is not a paid position. Mods do what they can, when they can. I and the other mods do an awful lot of sorting through posts, editing and deleting things, and keeping things pointed in the right direction that you never even see or know about. I have neither the time or interest to be a cheerleader and rally you or anyone into posting things of interest here. I wish you would, but that is your call.





Tony,

Obviously you and I see things different. In this thread http://www.roadfood.com/forums/tm.aspx?m=681082&mpage=1#681282 I see no fault of the original poster. I put the blame on Foodbme. You threaten to bounce the original poster. One guy asks for information and to try to start a discussion. Gets shut down right out of the box FOR NO REASON other than to incite. I might be 100% wrong in my assumption. He cracked back A++ which isn't that bad. I wonder what he said to his wife going on the trip as he said just minutes before to her. Hey let me start a thread on Vegas at that cool site Rood Food with all the great information that we used the last two trips. Only to here him use another term in disgust a few moments later. He then told her: Were on are own, no help there some guy blew it up....Russ

You are correct. Your assumptions are 100% incorrect

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Re:I was looking through the Hot Dog section and found this disturbing thread: - Thu, 01/12/12 12:22 PM
Russ, it was me, not Tony that remarked on the individual that called another poster A##.  IN your opinion it may be OK but we do not want anyone called another poster anytype of name and it does not have to be foul.  If you did it or anyone else, I would do the same and I am sure that other mods would do the same.
 
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Re:I was looking through the Hot Dog section and found this disturbing thread: - Thu, 01/12/12 12:22 PM
Please lets keep this civil. I agree with Russ that there are issues and concerns, and welcome the discussion, but lets not turn it into a personal battle.

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Re:I was looking through the Hot Dog section and found this disturbing thread: - Thu, 01/12/12 12:35 PM
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Russ, it was me, not Tony that remarked on the individual that called another poster A##.  IN your opinion it may be OK but we do not want anyone called another poster anytype of name and it does not have to be foul.  If you did it or anyone else, I would do the same and I am sure that other mods would do the same.

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I know I went back and edited the post Sundancer. But can you see how the poster might have gotten frustrated? This isn't a personal attack. Its an observation. It can be seen regularly. The site seems to be in a rut.  My only point was to bring it attention. I have viewed over the past year or more that it has swung over to far one way and it might be time to address it. Make it more positive and friendly. From my perspective it is turning into an Old Boys Club. There was no malice in my posts. Just bringing to light what I perceived....Russ

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Re:I was looking through the Hot Dog section and found this disturbing thread: - Thu, 01/12/12 12:38 PM
6. always the same ones. It isn't hard to figure out.
Meanwhile, I'm made fun of in this thread which doesn't bother me a whit, but
c'mon.....
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Re:I was looking through the Hot Dog section and found this disturbing thread: - Thu, 01/12/12 12:50 PM
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I know I went back and edited the post Sundancer. But can you see how the poster might have gotten frustrated? This isn't a personal attack. Its an observation. It can be seen regularly. The site seems to be in a rut.  My only point was to bring it attention. I have viewed over the past year or more that it has swung over to far one way and it might be time to address it. Make it more positive and friendly. From my perspective it is turning into an Old Boys Club. There was no malice in my posts. Just bringing to light what I perceived....Russ

 
Russ, how do we make it more positive and friendly? One would think adults would be able to do this on their own, but as you well know, that is not the case. I just noted I have been on this forum for 10 years now, and during that time I have been repeatedly bewildered at how people can turn a light hearted subject like roadfood into rude or nasty responses or angry exchanges, but when we deal with many different personalities it is bound to happen. Do we ban people for being curt, or blunt, or rude?

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Re:I was looking through the Hot Dog section and found this disturbing thread: - Thu, 01/12/12 1:31 PM
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I know I went back and edited the post Sundancer. But can you see how the poster might have gotten frustrated? This isn't a personal attack. Its an observation. It can be seen regularly. The site seems to be in a rut.  My only point was to bring it attention. I have viewed over the past year or more that it has swung over to far one way and it might be time to address it. Make it more positive and friendly. From my perspective it is turning into an Old Boys Club. There was no malice in my posts. Just bringing to light what I perceived....Russ


Russ, how do we make it more positive and friendly? One would think adults would be able to do this on their own, but as you well know, that is not the case. I just noted I have been on this forum for 10 years now, and during that time I have been repeatedly bewildered at how people can turn a light hearted subject like roadfood into rude or nasty responses or angry exchanges, but when we deal with many different personalities it is bound to happen. Do we ban people for being curt, or blunt, or rude?

 
Hopefully this spirited conversation with promote all of us to stand back. Look at our posts a little closer. Put ourselves in the shoes of the person asking the question and see how we can set them on their way down roadfood. You will find that once they see how welcome they are they will get involved and give back. The hard part is getting them to feel welcome. Thats our job. Then they open up and give back. Not because they owe, but because the want to. It will then become a small part of there lives. Others will see this and it will continue to grow. I know Mods don't get paid. But you do in the fact that you were chosen and you do a job well done. Remember how proud you were the day you were asked? Of course you do. Not all payment in monetary. You do it because you love to eat and enjoy the relationship you have with others of the same interest. Open the doors and make passage a little easier for those trying to enter this little world. It shouldn't  be work it should be fun. JMO...Russ
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Re:I was looking through the Hot Dog section and found this disturbing thread: - Thu, 01/12/12 2:08 PM
We still have men and women fighting a war and this is what some choose to get all upset about. Get a grip.

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Re:I was looking through the Hot Dog section and found this disturbing thread: - Thu, 01/12/12 2:11 PM
All this because someone suggested a search for information. Amazing!

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Re:I was looking through the Hot Dog section and found this disturbing thread: - Thu, 01/12/12 2:31 PM
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We still have men and women fighting a war and this is what some choose to get all upset about. Get a grip.

 
Personally I never thought anyone was upset. I never was...Russ
Also fishtaco could you explain Get a grip and how it applies?
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Re:I was looking through the Hot Dog section and found this disturbing thread: - Thu, 01/12/12 3:51 PM
Hell all this anger,you'd a thought someone put ketchup on a hotdog, ate at Pizza Hut or Bubba Gumps(on Broadway)!

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Re:I was looking through the Hot Dog section and found this disturbing thread: - Thu, 01/12/12 3:52 PM
Let me jump in here and add my 2 cents.
 
First of all.....I love everybody!   Well, maybe not the little feller....ahh, what the heck, the little feller too.
 
Because of the rapid changes in small food businesses(Roadfood), I will be the first to post for help.  Also, maybe I am looking for a specific food item, you know, regionally appropriate.  Or maybe one of the earlier threads died too young and didn't have a lot of info.
 
So, to sum up whatever point I am trying to make.  Anyone, new or old, ask away.  Heck, we could use the action.
 
Oh, and Russ, you're still my favorite Jackson.....after $Andrew$ of course.
 

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Re:I was looking through the Hot Dog section and found this disturbing thread: - Thu, 01/12/12 4:12 PM
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Hell all this anger,you'd a thought someone put ketchup on a hotdog, ate at Pizza Hut or Bubba Gumps(on Broadway)!

 
That would upset me. Especially the Ketchup on a Hot Dog...Russ

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Re:I was looking through the Hot Dog section and found this disturbing thread: - Tue, 01/24/12 7:43 PM
As I delve through the past it seems that some things never change. 

 
I can't add a link so add a www.
 
roadfood.com/Forums/tm.aspx?m=56808&high=unwelcome
 

 

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Re:I was looking through the Hot Dog section and found this disturbing thread: - Tue, 01/24/12 8:33 PM
The "problem" of new folks asking "the same old questions" exists on ALL popular and well attended BBS forums...this one is no exception...Old timers get peeved that new folks aren't instantly up to speed or blessed with divine knowledge, and the new folks don't know why th eold timers are so cranky, yet their questions are genuine and sincere, wanting to llearn someything...
 
Everytime a question is asked, a person is ASKING FOR KNOWLEDGE that they don't know...we must remember that none of us is born with this inate knowledge...we ask and we learn...and it's our social DUTY to in turn pass on the things we learn...it does NO good to take knowledge to the grave...so be patient with new folks and their questions, and remember the time in your life when YOU asked the same question, wanting a good answer...
 
FAQ's can help a LOT if well written...but sometimes that's not enough...and we have to remember that bbs forums like this are PRIVATELY owned, and it's the owners that decide how much time and energy goes into the setup, administration, and content of any particular forum...
 
THINKING beyond the typical FAQ...I think what can be helpful is a GUIDE, INFOBASE, or LEARNING section to refer folks to...
 
I wish I had a dollar everytime somebody asked "how many solar panels do I need to run my house" on another webby site...
 
For often asked technical questions, I've created graphics to illustrate important points...humans are very visually oriented, and often it's better to SHOW instead of (or in conjunction with) TELLING...
 
THE GOOD NEWS is there's lots of knowledge here, so folks, be the best guide you can be. Think of how you can best explain something to answer a question...text, still graphic, video footage...we can create media and send it around the world at the speed of light, yet we still don't always know how to relate with one another...
 
Visualize being the teacher you learned from...
 
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Re:I was looking through the Hot Dog section and found this disturbing thread: - Sun, 01/29/12 1:29 PM
It just goes to show that it's hard enough to get 2 people to agree and come to a understanding on anything. Let alone a group of people.
My advice is to become a hermit and let the rest of the world do whatever it feels the need to do.
But pay no attention to me because I'm too stupid to know any better.
And I kind of like it that way.

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Re:I was looking through the Hot Dog section and found this disturbing thread: - Sun, 01/29/12 2:35 PM
My only comment is that when I come to Roadfood to ask about restaurants in an area I am visiting, I want conversation with my fellow roadfoodies. Please dont offer me a search function-I can do that on millions of sites on my own.Offer me an opinion or experience!

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Re:I was looking through the Hot Dog section and found this disturbing thread: - Sun, 01/29/12 7:44 PM
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My only comment is that when I come to Roadfood to ask about restaurants in an area I am visiting, I want conversation with my fellow roadfoodies. Please dont offer me a search function-I can do that on millions of sites on my own.Offer me an opinion or experience!

That's what it's all about.

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Re:I was looking through the Hot Dog section and found this disturbing thread: - Mon, 01/30/12 4:25 PM
Even hermits need to eat...
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Re:I was looking through the Hot Dog section and found this disturbing thread: - Tue, 01/31/12 7:40 AM
I consider myself a lurker to the site. I do enjoy many of the threads and find them helpful in my travels to other areas. I recall our first trip after having found this site. I informed my wife that I did not want to eat at any chain restaurants. We had a great time experiencing new foods and places.
 
But this thread is more about forum etiquette and manners than content. I like to think of forums like coffee shops. If you struck up a conversation with someone, would you respond sarcastically or bitterly if they asked a mundane question. I would hope not.  The search function is a great tool, but it cannot provide new perspective. Perhaps someone else new to the forum has joined and sees a question for the first time and can contribute something different.
 
The same manners we use in public should apply when responding thru a keyboard.

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Re:I was looking through the Hot Dog section and found this disturbing thread: - Tue, 01/31/12 8:05 AM
The search function is great but it isn't current all the time. Also a lot of new places will not be listed.  N othing worse than going to a restaurant that closed over a year ago...Russ

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Re:I was looking through the Hot Dog section and found this disturbing thread: - Tue, 01/31/12 8:30 AM
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http://www.roadfood.com/Forums/Hot-Dog-recipes-m672103.aspx

Maybe I just miss the old days. But I don't think that's all of it. The regulars need to be better shill's for the site including the Mod's. Maybe add some fresh Mod's. Add some new categories, remove some of the weak ones or consolidate,  put the lighter fare on the main page

Attitude seems to be going through a down turn and it should stop. It's just my opinion...Russ


I for one am thankful that lighter fare was removed from he main page. I know I speak for many others (including those who don't want to be as vocal as I am) that this is a website about Roadfood, I would have left a long time ago if the lighter fare topics have stayed on the main page and I know this would have alienated many others as well and they would have likely done the same.

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Re:I was looking through the Hot Dog section and found this disturbing thread: - Tue, 01/31/12 8:57 PM
Yes Hermits need to eat but they avoid the petty BS of people as much they can.
 
Anns post says so much. Yes this is a site about "Roadfood" But this is a forum in that site.
A part and not the whole.
 A forum is about interaction between people and that is a very diverse undertaking.
The majority of this forum is about roadfood and there is a place for lighter fare. The simple act of interaction between people kind of demands it.
What's the statement? Man can not live by bread alone.
Well a forum needs to have variety to allow a variety of people to enjoy it. No one will like everyone but the more differences are accepted then the more different people will accept it. And the larger the base of ideas the better for everyone to benefit from them.

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Re:I was looking through the Hot Dog section and found this disturbing thread: - Tue, 01/31/12 10:17 PM
My friend Zagut, this whole site is about roadfood. Lighter fare is good, but doesnt belong on the front page, imo.

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Re:I was looking through the Hot Dog section and found this disturbing thread: - Tue, 01/31/12 10:38 PM
you think folks who look at the front page are actually enticed to stick around and participate?
That argument is so 2007. 
This is an old tired site filled with old tired people. 
I'm guilty myself. 
If they can't bother to fix the front page, why should we care?

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Re:I was looking through the Hot Dog section and found this disturbing thread: - Wed, 02/1/12 9:15 AM
One of the most prominent things on the front page is Roadfood News. What would prompt you to read further if the news item is dated 11/10/10 and telling you it's time to order your 2011 calendar? Would make me think that this is an old site that's not maintained.
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Re:I was looking through the Hot Dog section and found this disturbing thread: - Wed, 02/1/12 10:22 AM
hEY, HAVE YOU VOTED ON HOW YOU LIKE YOUR POTATO LATKES...ONLY 8 MONTHS MORE TO GO..OR 2,000 VOTES, WHICHEVER COMES FIRST!!!

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Re:I was looking through the Hot Dog section and found this disturbing thread: - Wed, 02/1/12 10:40 AM
I wish pineapple was an option...instead of applesauce.

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Re:I was looking through the Hot Dog section and found this disturbing thread: - Wed, 02/1/12 11:00 AM
1bbqboy


you think folks who look at the front page are actually enticed to stick around and participate?
That argument is so 2007. 
This is an old tired site filled with old tired people. 
I'm guilty myself. 
If they can't bother to fix the front page, why should we care?

 
My friend and frequent poster.  I am one of those old tired people you have graciously described.  I have been on this site for close to twelve years.  I guess that certainly qualifies me as old and tired.  I am sorry that you feel that way but believe me, most of the mods are around most of the time.  I guess that we should be around more frequently considering the high pay but it is what it is.
 
Thank you for your comments.
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Re:I was looking through the Hot Dog section and found this disturbing thread: - Wed, 02/1/12 11:14 AM
Paul, I'm not talking about moderators, I'm talking about content Why people come here Is it just a place for us oldtimers to play and grouse in, or does it reflect the current state of (Street) and Roadfood in America? 
When I came on this morning, the two topics at the top were Are you old enough to remember new math and do you remember you telephone exchange name. 
Why would anyone under 50 even bother to click thru the site?
 
 

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Re:I was looking through the Hot Dog section and found this disturbing thread: - Wed, 02/1/12 11:29 AM
Things change. Social networking has cut into message board forums like Roadfood.com in the past few years. Facebook, Google+, Twitter and others have sucked a lot of online energy away.

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Re:I was looking through the Hot Dog section and found this disturbing thread: - Wed, 02/1/12 8:23 PM
Wow...we lost four or five of the last posts...censored, I guess....someone was naughty....please be civil, guys!!!!

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Re:I was looking through the Hot Dog section and found this disturbing thread: - Wed, 02/1/12 8:35 PM
There was a happy ending. It was no big deal.

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Re:I was looking through the Hot Dog section and found this disturbing thread: - Wed, 02/1/12 8:49 PM
Ann, I know the site is about roadfood and I don't think that lighter fare is the most important aspect of the site. 1bbqboy is correct in that the front page doesn't mean a lot. To be honest I wouldn't even see it  except that when I log in I'm redirected to it. My point was that this site is 99.9% about roadfood. This is the forum. A place where people interact. Differences among people are to be expected. You said yourself that you'd like conversation with fellow roadfooders. Thats all fine and dandy but the complaint seems to be that things have evolved into what could be perceived as an old boys community. As happens to many sites the belief that high post counts and length of membership count for more then content of ideas. New members are told that they should know all that has happened before they joined and if they don't then they are at fault for not knowing. Comments are only given to those posters that are known. That's understandable because reactions from new/unknown are unpredictable. People are people and interaction between them is always a crap shoot.
I have no problem at all at how this site is run. It is what it is and I enjoy it for what it is.
Sundancer, There is no need for you to be around more frequently. The Mods here do a fine job. As far as I'm concerned the best Mods are the ones you never notice. Just remember not to let post counts and how long you've known someone affect your judgement.
I only stirred up this thread because I found an old thread that said basically the same thing and it showed me that things never really change in the interaction between people. Show me two people and I'll show you two different sets of ideas that will only agree .01% of the time.
Enjoy life folks because we only get one shot at it and it would be a shame to waste it.
 
 
 
 
ps. What the h e double hockey sticks is wrong with pineapple as an option????


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Re:I was looking through the Hot Dog section and found this disturbing thread: - Wed, 02/1/12 9:21 PM
WOW!!!  Censorship at its best.  Good job and keep it up.

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Re:I was looking through the Hot Dog section and found this disturbing thread: - Wed, 02/1/12 9:34 PM
SUZYQICU


WOW!!!  Censorship at its best.  Good job and keep it up.

 
Thanks!
 
Mom always said to do your best.

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Re:I was looking through the Hot Dog section and found this disturbing thread: - Wed, 02/1/12 9:44 PM
Zagut


 My point was that this site is 99.9% about roadfood.
 
 
That's correct, and it should stay that way, unfortunately it hasn't , the forum overall  has much more "posters" than "roadfooders" meaning those that don't care about roadfood and would rather post about unrelated topics  or those that just post about food such as what they had for lunch or dinner or breakfast today, or the new hot n juicy burger at Wendy's frankly I (and several others) could care less which is why I don't post there, although others who share similar thoughts are much less vocal about it than I am.- Ironically those same  "posters" here have referred to some of us "roadfooders"  as "show-offs" and "braggarts" because we post trip reports  or because of a thread on one of the forums called "these are the places I visited on roadfood" . 
 


 As happens to many sites the belief that high post counts and length of membership count for more then content of ideas. 
 

 
That means absolutely nothing to me. I could care less. I'm not "internet" saavy, I don't spend much time on the internet, there's alot of things I just "don't get" or "understand" and that makes absolutely no sense to me. Personally, I'd rather be enjoying the outdoors or socializing with friends face to face. On the other hand I've met some great people on the forum who I consider close friends so obviously  of course there is interaction but its with those who share the same or similar ideology of what this website is all about.

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Re:I was looking through the Hot Dog section and found this disturbing thread: - Wed, 02/1/12 9:48 PM
wanderingjew

there's alot of things I just "don't get" or "understand" 

 
I can attest to this!
 

 
sorry Dale, but if you are going to toss 'em out there like that, I am going to swing at 'em!

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Re:I was looking through the Hot Dog section and found this disturbing thread: - Wed, 02/1/12 10:06 PM
Tony Bad


wanderingjew

there's alot of things I just "don't get" or "understand" 


I can attest to this!



sorry Dale, but if you are going to toss 'em out there like that, I am going to swing at 'em!

 
And you Tony, are one of those things 
 
Yeah, I guess I set myself up for that one!
 

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Re:I was looking through the Hot Dog section and found this disturbing thread: - Wed, 02/1/12 10:29 PM
why was the new guy's post taken down? It summed up everything quite nicely. 
Thus illustrating the problem.
<message edited by 1bbqboy on Wed, 02/1/12 10:30 PM>

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Re:I was looking through the Hot Dog section and found this disturbing thread: - Wed, 02/1/12 10:34 PM
The thickness of a Coleman Extreme cooler lid is two inches. That is what you missed. 

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Re:I was looking through the Hot Dog section and found this disturbing thread: - Wed, 02/1/12 10:47 PM
1bbqboy


why was the new guy's post taken down? It summed up everything quite nicely. 
Thus illustrating the problem.

 

Who's the new guy?  What?  Was he #7?  Jeeze, you just can't take a day off around here.

 

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Re:I was looking through the Hot Dog section and found this disturbing thread: - Wed, 02/1/12 10:51 PM
1bbqboy


why was the new guy's post taken down? It summed up everything quite nicely. 
Thus illustrating the problem.

 
The "new guy" failed to take her own "be nice" message, thus illustrating a whole other problem, people who like to complain but do little to remedy the situation. If you want to be passively entertained or informed, click on youtube or wikipedia. If you want a better forum, add something to make it better, or more interesting, or funnier, or whatever it is you find lacking. By "you" I don't mean just you Mr. BBQBoy, I mean anyone who finds something missing here. That is how boards like this work.

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Re:I was looking through the Hot Dog section and found this disturbing thread: - Wed, 02/1/12 10:57 PM
Mr BBQBoy?  There you go again, playing favorites.

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Re:I was looking through the Hot Dog section and found this disturbing thread: - Wed, 02/1/12 10:59 PM
joerogo

 Mr BBQBoy?  There you go again, playing favorites.

 
I wasn't sure if "1" is his first name.

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Re:I was looking through the Hot Dog section and found this disturbing thread: - Wed, 02/1/12 11:03 PM
The new girl in Tuscon Arizona.

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Re:I was looking through the Hot Dog section and found this disturbing thread: - Wed, 02/1/12 11:47 PM
that's my birth name, yes.

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Re:I was looking through the Hot Dog section and found this disturbing thread: - Thu, 02/2/12 6:50 AM
Tony Bad


1bbqboy


why was the new guy's post taken down? It summed up everything quite nicely. 
Thus illustrating the problem.


The "new guy" failed to take her own "be nice" message, thus illustrating a whole other problem, people who like to complain but do little to remedy the situation. If you want to be passively entertained or informed, click on youtube or wikipedia. If you want a better forum, add something to make it better, or more interesting, or funnier, or whatever it is you find lacking. By "you" I don't mean just you Mr. BBQBoy, I mean anyone who finds something missing here. That is how boards like this work.

 
Several things have been pointed out in this thread, but,as usual,seem to fall on deaf ears.Unfair moderation,lack of front page updates etc. What else exactly would you like us to do ? I suppose I could waste my time doing an update on Ft Wayne eateries and watch it drift off into oblivion.Until some other things get fixed,there is just no point.


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Re:I was looking through the Hot Dog section and found this disturbing thread: - Thu, 02/2/12 7:36 AM
flyseye

Several things have been pointed out in this thread, but,as usual,seem to fall on deaf ears.Unfair moderation,lack of front page updates etc. What else exactly would you like us to do ? I suppose I could waste my time doing an update on Ft Wayne eateries and watch it drift off into oblivion.Until some other things get fixed,there is just no point. 

 
I'll skip the "unfair moderation" comment because there is no way for me tocomment without seeming defensive, but I DID read what was posted in this thread, and it shows a divide between what people think is best and/or what type of content they want on this forum. If there was an overwhelming opinion in one direction the changes needed to support that opinion would be made, but that isn't the case. The only point I was trying to make is that web communities like this are a product of user input. If you feel it is a waste of your time to add things, I don't know what I or anyone can do to change your mind.
 
As to the whole front page issue, the digest part of the page has been updated daily. You are 100% right that some content has been there too long, but seeing as this hasn't been the pattern over the years, perhaps folks would first wonder if there was something amiss with the people who had been updating those areas instead of turning to pitchforks and torches. I actually don't know why it is the way it is, but know it is not the norm.

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Re:I was looking through the Hot Dog section and found this disturbing thread: - Thu, 02/2/12 8:51 AM
1bbqboy

that's my birth name, yes.

 
A 1%'er from birth......OCCUPY ROADFOOD!!!!!

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Re:I was looking through the Hot Dog section and found this disturbing thread: - Thu, 02/2/12 9:28 AM
Look at the bright side.  If there was no one discussing what was wrong with this web site, there'd be almost NO traffic around here.

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Re:I was looking through the Hot Dog section and found this disturbing thread: - Thu, 02/2/12 10:11 AM
I agree with Tonybad..Roadfood is what WE want it to be....and we do know the front page is always updated. Everytime I log on , there's something new. My first reaction last week was, "I hope the guy who does the polls is ok, because a poll up this long is unusual!!"
     And as for content: This site gives us the leeway to make it what we want. The forum page has just about everything . Check it out often, comment, or create something new...and if there are people who also want to talk about that topic, they will. No need to put down someone who likes a chain...just don't respond to that forum. If everyone agreed with you, that forum would get no business.
   I prefer this wide open forum. I'm so tired about the argument that this is "roadfood" and therefore God Almighty says it must be roadfood only, and what THEY consider "Roadfood".  This site can and should sustain what ever the roadfooders here want to talk about. Let's cut the definitions and parameters. Hell, food served on the go is roadfood, just not "Homefood", And as I've said before I've had great meals in little mom and pops in my travels....and some cheap terrible food in such places, and I've had very good meals in some chains. But hell,this is a place to talk about food...food we've experienced out on the road....whether it's good or bad,gourmet or not, we should discuss and give thoughts as long as there are members who also enjoy giving their thoughts. If we canned every forum topic except food porn pictures of out of the way places most will never get to,this would be a much smaller and albeit less exciting. Don't get me wrong. I too love those photographs and enjoy them very much...and I've been given good advice here about places to visit when I was about to travel. And I have tried to return the favor. That's this site at its best!!!!
   What drew me to this site five years ago was the diversity of info. here and the wide world of food.....and the wonderful posters we have. I could never travel like Wanderingjew and so many others, but I live vicariously through them and have learned so much. Keep it coming. I've also had fun debating Pizza Hut verses real Pizza.....why Mickey D's is so terrible....or is 5 Guys a great burger...and these forums get a lot of traffic because people enjoy them.
   I bet the Sterns would agree......we talk food here...food on the go...on the road...good and bad....agree or disagree...give reviews...give opinions....have fun!!! Period......LET"S GET ON WITH IT AND ENJOY THIS SITE!!!

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Re:I was looking through the Hot Dog section and found this disturbing thread: - Thu, 02/2/12 10:13 AM
Ps: Sorry this was so long above...but I've been wanting to say that for years.Love this place, and want it to continue to be a fun stop on the Internet road.

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Re:I was looking through the Hot Dog section and found this disturbing thread: - Thu, 02/2/12 11:17 AM
leethebard
 

  I could never travel like Wanderingjew and so many others, but I live vicariously through them
 

I'd like to know which wanderingjew you're refering to because it  certainly isn't me. I could never travel like Buffetbuster or TTM.
In the scheme of things,I don't travel very much, and I'm perplexed why others say they could never travel like me. I'm far from wealthy,  I don't have alot of disposable income and at the same time don't have much credit card debt. So if I can do it, just about anyone can .

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Re:I was looking through the Hot Dog section and found this disturbing thread: - Thu, 02/2/12 1:26 PM
Sorry...I mispoke.......

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