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MARCO'S TRUCK BUILD - Mon, 02/6/12 2:06 AM
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PICTURES COMING SOON
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Re:MARCO'S TRUCK BUILD - Mon, 02/6/12 9:23 AM
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Re:MARCO'S TRUCK BUILD - Mon, 02/6/12 6:25 PM
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Marco
Are you a fabricator or just working your tail off and learning as you go like the rest of us? Looks good.What kind of food are you going to serve?
 
I noticed your post on the Hot Dog forum where you asked "can put an air cooled generator in a box or in an enclosed  space. Do i really need a liquid cooled generator?
 
The answer is NO but you need to keep it cool I have read some articles online about building a box and using a fan to blow the hot air out, not cool air in as most people think. But can't find them right now. Maybe someone else will have a link for you.

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Re:MARCO'S TRUCK BUILD - Mon, 02/6/12 7:26 PM
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Jack,
no i am not the fabricator i am learnig as i go.
got a lot of good advice here. we plan to put the generator in the black box you see in the pic.
we will be hooking up a fan so it goes on when the generator is on.
also talking about tying the exhaust sytem into the existing truck exhaust.
i will be seving goumet comfort food. including pulled pork sandwhich.

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Re:MARCO'S TRUCK BUILD - Mon, 02/6/12 9:58 PM
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"Talking about tying the exhaust system into the existing truck exhaust."
 
I wrote about that here on RF did you read that thread? The longer the exhaust on your generator the better for the generator and for quietness. So if your generator is in the back of the truck and you run iron pipe from the generator to the rear of the engine and then into your truck exhaust you'll have a win, win, situation.
 
"I will be serving gourmet comfort food. including pulled pork sandwich."
 
I ate at Bogart's  in St Louis yesterday and had an amazing pulled pork sandwich and great pastrami however their sauce sucks. But I very seldom eat BBQ with sauce on it. All in all it was Very good food.

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Re:MARCO'S TRUCK BUILD - Mon, 02/6/12 9:58 PM
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Marco226,
Nice build. Its coming along great. your truck got all kinds of sweet hook ups. Wish mine came with a door on the side. Where did you get the folding shelf under the window?

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Re:MARCO'S TRUCK BUILD - Wed, 02/8/12 9:14 PM
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Jack,
you did mention it in an e-mail too me.
funny thing the day before your e-mail my team am i where talking about it. lol

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Re:MARCO'S TRUCK BUILD - Wed, 02/8/12 9:17 PM
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i got the shelve from SIMPLICITY INNOVATIONS 574-870-8058. been very busy at work i will try to get in touch with you soon.

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Re:MARCO'S TRUCK BUILD - Thu, 02/9/12 12:06 AM
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ok sounds good. thanks for the info.

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Re:MARCO'S TRUCK BUILD - Sat, 02/18/12 8:20 PM
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Re:MARCO'S TRUCK BUILD - Sun, 02/19/12 8:08 AM
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Slick looking rig, building it will be a great cost saving measure and you will know how to repair or replace if anything goes wrong.
 
Venting the exhaust away will help a great deal, nothing runs customers away like a loud generator so I am told.

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Re:MARCO'S TRUCK BUILD - Mon, 02/20/12 11:58 PM
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You got a sink a small sink. lol They look so small in person.

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Re:MARCO'S TRUCK BUILD - Tue, 02/21/12 11:07 AM
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it's like a  regular 3 bay sink had a baby. LMAF. where did you get your pluming for the sinks.
i am clueless when it comes stuff like this. i talked to the local RV guy in HONESDALE.
he said he would help me pick out every thing i need. from the heater to my tanks.
what do think.

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Re:MARCO'S TRUCK BUILD - Tue, 02/21/12 1:31 PM
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I ordered my tanks from Tank Depot online. Plumbing will be standard home depot parts. Six gallon Atwood water heater undermounted, shurflo water pump and expansion tank.
There might be a little concern with running the generator and engine at the same time. With the same exhaust pipe that is. Back pressure to genrtr might get too high and cause heat build up and poor performance. Doubt u will be in that situation though.
Sorry if I missed it, where did u source ur hood?
I think I looked at that truck when I was in the mrkt!

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Re:MARCO'S TRUCK BUILD - Tue, 02/21/12 5:46 PM
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I got my hood from a local guy in pa.
i bought my truck from morethantrucks in island park ny.
is that where you looked at it

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Re:MARCO'S TRUCK BUILD - Tue, 02/21/12 8:45 PM
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There was a similar one in Wisconsin. Is that a diesel?

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Re:MARCO'S TRUCK BUILD - Tue, 02/21/12 9:02 PM
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yea turbo deisel. very heavy duty.hauls ass.

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Re:MARCO'S TRUCK BUILD - Wed, 02/22/12 12:08 AM
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marco226


it's like a  regular 3 bay sink had a baby. LMAF. where did you get your pluming for the sinks.
i am clueless when it comes stuff like this. i talked to the local RV guy in HONESDALE.
he said he would help me pick out every thing i need. from the heater to my tanks.
what do think.

As for my plumbing i went to homedepot. I'm using 1.5 inch plumbing to the waste tank. I talked to the state to see if there is any code or anything about MFF plumbing and they said "as long as it works and you have a check valve (back flow preventer) then its good to go". I followed Reese77 plumbing ideas. I have on my truck a 21 and 30 gal FDA fresh h2o tank. The 30 gal tank i'm making into my "waste" tank. Cause an RV tank was crazy money and the sizes wouldnt work for under the truck without hitting something. So i'm just going to make the fresh one work. lol But that is a good idea talking to an RV guy. We really need to meet up!!!

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Re:MARCO'S TRUCK BUILD - Tue, 02/28/12 6:59 PM
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well i started reseaching water pumps and water heaters.
so many choices. where do you start.
mabey i will just let the rv guy sell me every thing i need.
i do not mind paying a little more but i am worried he might take advantage.
he is local and i want support my home town as much as i can.
he already asked me to bring my truck to his open house this summer.
any thoughts.

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Re:MARCO'S TRUCK BUILD - Fri, 03/2/12 7:38 PM
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Ask him if hell trade food later for parts now.

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Re:MARCO'S TRUCK BUILD - Fri, 03/2/12 10:19 PM
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great idea i am going to see him tomorrow. i will let you know how it plays out.
thanks Jack

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Re:MARCO'S TRUCK BUILD - Sat, 03/3/12 2:19 AM
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marco226


well i started reseaching water pumps and water heaters.
so many choices. where do you start.
mabey i will just let the rv guy sell me every thing i need.
i do not mind paying a little more but i am worried he might take advantage.
he is local and i want support my home town as much as i can.
he already asked me to bring my truck to his open house this summer.
any thoughts.

Since both you & he are in a relartively small business area, I doubt he would "Work you over". How long has he been in business? The fact that he wants you to do an event for him indicates he's probably on the up & up. He wouldn't ask you to show up this summer if he was just trying to take you. There's enough info on the internet so that you can compare prices.


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Re:MARCO'S TRUCK BUILD - Sat, 03/3/12 9:59 AM
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im curious what that collapsable shelf cost you under your serving window... I need to buy one.

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Re:MARCO'S TRUCK BUILD - Sat, 03/3/12 5:13 PM
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16 x 60 shelf was 169.99
folding brackets were 49.00
they did not charge me for the installation of the brackets.
plus freight.
i got it from SIMPLICITY INNOVATION 574-870-8058 ASK FOR KYLE
 

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Re:MARCO'S TRUCK BUILD - Sat, 03/3/12 5:23 PM
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THANKS poit well taken.
 

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Re:MARCO'S TRUCK BUILD - Sun, 03/4/12 2:29 AM
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I bought a shelf similiar from Challenger door 6x13 for $96 also ordered my window from them, I think  I got their name from ChefBub posting about them

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Re:MARCO'S TRUCK BUILD - Tue, 03/6/12 6:18 AM
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PurpleCheetah
I bought a shelf similiar from Challenger door 6x13 for $96 also ordered my window from them, I think  I got their name from ChefBub posting about them

 
Purple Cheetah Did you go to Challenger Door and pick up your stuff or have them ship it? What are the dimensions on your window and how much did they charge you for your window?
 
Marco,  what is the distance between the wall supports in your step van and how wide is each support?  And (lol) where did you buy your window, what are the dimensions on your window, and how much did they charge you?
 
I first dealt with Challenger Door Company in northern Indiana several years ago and I was very very impressed with the aluminum, and  stainless steel cabinet doors they were building back then. But I think I posted about them several times here on RF and the phone number for Challenger Door Company is 574-773-0470 in case any one needs it.

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Re:MARCO'S TRUCK BUILD - Tue, 03/6/12 5:24 PM
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Full tempered glass window with awning 6'x3', shelf 6'x13" $745 for window and $96 for shelf I'm picking up the 19th, also stopping by utilimaster to pick up some parts since they are 8 miles away.  I was wrong it was you Dr. o B where I got the info on them from not ChefB.
 
 
 
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Re:MARCO'S TRUCK BUILD - Tue, 03/6/12 9:00 PM
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PurpleCheetah
Full tempered glass window with awning 6'x3', shelf 6'x13" $745 for window and $96 for shelf I'm picking up the 19th, also stopping by utilimaster to pick up some parts since they are 8 miles away. 

 
Ok when you go to Challenger Door to pick up your window ask them if they have some standard prices on windows. Like standard prices for a ___X_____ = $ . Do you understand what I'm looking for? LOL Something that will give the builders here a price to compare with other companies. Their prices and what I have seen of there product is far superior to anyone else in the concession window business. Also if I'm not over stepping my bounds here take some pictures of any products they have built and sitting in their office. Hell if they will let you (and again if you don't feel good about this forget it) ask for a factory tour and shoot some photos and post them here. It would be a great report and a real asset to anyone building a trailer or truck, but in asking always remember their religious affiliation. And last but not least tell them the Doctor of BBQ loves their products and I'll be calling them with another order in a month. 
thanks
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Re:MARCO'S TRUCK BUILD - Tue, 03/6/12 11:06 PM
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Gee whiz DoB I'll do my best don't know how far I'll get but I'll try to get as much info as possible, lmao.....This is Purple Cheetah with Rf news signing out, lol

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Re:MARCO'S TRUCK BUILD - Wed, 03/7/12 12:43 AM
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It was just a suggestion not an order LMFAO. Any information you get and pass on is a feather in your cap not mine. And it would be a big benefit to many other people on truck and trailer builds. What ever you feel comfortable with is ok. You do what ever you want and what you can't accomplish I'll finish when I go up there in early October. Roger and out. lol
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Re:MARCO'S TRUCK BUILD - Wed, 03/7/12 5:44 PM
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Yes Sir, Captain, lmaooooo....I'll et as much info and pics as I can, as long as they don't toss me out I'll snap snap snap
 

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Re:MARCO'S TRUCK BUILD - Wed, 03/7/12 7:22 PM
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the wall supports are 48" on center. and they are 4" wide.

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Re:MARCO'S TRUCK BUILD - Wed, 03/7/12 8:52 PM
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Marco,
If you want me to start a different thread and delete this I will because I don't want to take over your thread. But that said has anyone ever run across any information that defines the numbers on Step Vans as from the manufacturer?  I'm asking because I own a 1998 P-30 all aluminum step van with a chevy 454 engine. And my original thought was all P-30s were the 18 foot interior. But I read threads here where people are doing a build on P30s and some are only 16 feet long. Does anyone have any idea whats what on this topic? And a good example of the difference is interior length, interior wall structure, (mine are on 24 inch centers)  number of doors, No door on drivers side, and the list goes on and on. But they are all P-30s to the best of my knowledge. Any help on this topic would really be appreciated.
jack
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Re:MARCO'S TRUCK BUILD - Thu, 03/8/12 10:02 AM
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Dr, I did a lot of truck research. What I came up with is that you could order almost any config you wanted on almost any chassis. The p30 was available in different capabilities chassis wise. From a small mail truck with very little capacity, to cdl requiring gvwr. I'll see if I can find some of my sources. P30 has become almost a generic name for step vans, even though it's based on a gm chassis.
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Re:MARCO'S TRUCK BUILD - Thu, 03/8/12 10:55 AM
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Dr of BBQ


Marco,
If you want me to start a different thread and delete this I will because I don't want to take over your thread. But that said has anyone ever run across any information that defines the numbers on Step Vans as from the manufacturer?  I'm asking because I own a 1998 P-30 all aluminum step van with a chevy 454 engine. And my original thought was all P-30s were the 18 foot interior. But I read threads here where people are doing a build on P30s and some are only 16 feet long. Does anyone have any idea whats what on this topic? And a good example of the difference is interior length, interior wall structure, (mine are on 24 inch centers)  number of doors, No door on drivers side, and the list goes on and on. But they are all P-30s to the best of my knowledge. Any help on this topic would really be appreciated.
jack

 
The service manual breaks down the VIN # and all the possible variations. Including engine, GVWR, etc... Also, some trucks go were bought by a body company barebones and they do their own custom bodies. Like HIVCO for example, a company like that has their own crash testing it's so different from a regular P30. Underneath my truck, you can see where they had the factory taillights, attached to frame like a semi trailer. The company that did my body extended it about a foot and a half and totally changed the rear structure.

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Re:MARCO'S TRUCK BUILD - Thu, 03/8/12 12:24 PM
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Mofood any links you can round up would be greatly appreciated.
Vic that's interesting and I'll have to get my tittle out tonight and take a look at the Vin #. I wish there was a site that did the history on P-30s and the out-builds etc.  That would allow anyone that owns one to know the complete history of their truck.
Thanks to both of you.
 

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Re:MARCO'S TRUCK BUILD - Thu, 03/8/12 4:04 PM
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no this is cool.

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Re:MARCO'S TRUCK BUILD - Thu, 03/8/12 7:20 PM
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Re:MARCO'S TRUCK BUILD - Thu, 03/8/12 7:22 PM
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what do you think doc
 

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Re:MARCO'S TRUCK BUILD - Fri, 03/9/12 12:07 AM
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Dr., one I may have found on this site, or in my www travels: http://tooltrucks.com/info/tt101sv.htm
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Re:MARCO'S TRUCK BUILD - Fri, 03/9/12 7:47 AM
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Re:MARCO'S TRUCK BUILD - Fri, 03/9/12 7:49 AM
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Re:MARCO'S TRUCK BUILD - Fri, 03/9/12 8:40 AM
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marco226


 

Pretty cool. Are you going to put a door in between your drivers area and your kitchen? Do you have too according to a local code? What are your measurements of your kitchen? How long, wide, tall? I never have been able to tell what the open looking area in your roof is, do you have a skylight? All in all your build looks as though its going well. What equipment are you going to put in? I assume you have a menu ready?
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Re:MARCO'S TRUCK BUILD - Fri, 03/9/12 8:45 AM
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My truck sits a lot higher than yours so I'm going to have to do some spring work, to lower my truck overall. What is the distance from the bottom of your service window to the ground? Have you measured the distance from the top of your exhaust to the ground? Over all clearance height?

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Re:MARCO'S TRUCK BUILD - Fri, 03/9/12 10:30 AM
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the inside height is 82" the out side not counting the exhaust is 10' 6". the inside width is 92" i going to measure it w/ the exhaust today.
there is a sliding door that closes. you just can't see it. also i have 2 small vents on the roof w/ fans. i will take a picture of them to show you.
the outside window and shelve is about 5" to high. we are just going to have to deal with it. i was thinking maybe droping the shelve 5".
my cook line will be range from TRI-STAR 2 burners w/ 24" griddle a stand up fryer 27" sanwhich unit. then the sink.under the window there will be a s/s wall shelve 12" x 48". to the left of the window there will be a glass door refrigerator 5' high 24" wide and 24" deep for sodas etc. then to the left we are going to build a table on top of the generator box. that's where the slicer will be. i also had a custom cutting board to fit over my sinks for add prep space.
on the wall shelve under the window there will be a cheese despencing unit. and a food warmer for chili cooked onions. etc.
any thoughts. we put the diamond plate flooring in yesterday. yea you guess it i could not cancel the diamond plate for the floor. it looks great.
 

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Re:MARCO'S TRUCK BUILD - Fri, 03/9/12 10:33 AM
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Did you end up welding the floor seams?
If so, tig or mig?
If not, what method did you use to seal it?
Good progress

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Re:MARCO'S TRUCK BUILD - Fri, 03/9/12 5:05 PM
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i had the shop cut the sheet so it fit the whole floor.the only seam  i will have is under the sink and to the left of the window.
we are going to use a glue that bonds metal to metal and use rivets on the outer edges of the floor. i will take pictures and post them.
tomorrow i am takeing it to the RV guy he is going to measure for the water tanks and the propane tank to mount under the truck.
still not sure on the water heater. i just want to thank all of you for your adivise and information. i would be lost without this fourm and the people here.

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Re:MARCO'S TRUCK BUILD - Fri, 03/9/12 6:37 PM
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Marco,
You have to figure that your build will be viewed by large numbers long after you are done so it ends up being a trade.
How big is your propane and water tank going to be? Or are you yet to decide, and it depends on the area you have to work with? I'd love to put my gray water tank under the deck but it would freeze in a heartbeat.

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Re:MARCO'S TRUCK BUILD - Fri, 03/9/12 7:10 PM
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i was thinking a 100lb tank there is pleanty of room between the frame.
and for the water tank i am thinking 35gl and 50 waste.
right behind the wheels toward the back bumper there is room for a 30" tank. we shall see what the rv guy says tomorrow.
our winters are bad up here. so when it gets bad we will stop for the winter.
 

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Re:MARCO'S TRUCK BUILD - Fri, 03/9/12 7:11 PM
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here is a stupit question. can i subscribe to my own thread?  ok?
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Re:MARCO'S TRUCK BUILD - Sat, 03/10/12 6:08 AM
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marco226


here is a stupit question. can i subscribe to my own thread?

 
Easy. Go to edit your post. Then look below the text box. Right below where it has a check box for adding your signature, there is a selection box where you can choose to subscribe to your post. You can do this on a reply to someone elses thread. Since the box comes up when editing your own thread, I assume it can be done retroactively.
 
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Re:MARCO'S TRUCK BUILD - Sat, 03/10/12 10:46 AM
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the two P30 steps i bought are 24 ft long and have step-in coolers with cold plates that span the width of the van and approx 4 ft deep. they have narrow walkin cooler doors that open to passenger side cockpit for delivery's back in the day for vending routes. If plugged in overnight, they keep a fairly constant temp. Ill have about 14 ft of kitchen length. id rather have the coolers open to the kitchen area but its just too complicated. ill post pics on my thread as allowed to do so.

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Re:MARCO'S TRUCK BUILD - Sat, 03/10/12 1:50 PM
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ok i think i did it right.well see
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Re:MARCO'S TRUCK BUILD - Sat, 03/10/12 2:43 PM
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Re:MARCO'S TRUCK BUILD - Sat, 03/10/12 2:45 PM
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floor is in.
 


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Re:MARCO'S TRUCK BUILD - Sat, 03/10/12 2:51 PM
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it does not give me an option to subscribe to the thread.

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Re:MARCO'S TRUCK BUILD - Sat, 03/10/12 2:55 PM
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It's coming together nicely Marco. Are you putting the sink where it is now? Would there be enough room there?

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