Hot!Oldest Roadfood Places?

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Tony Bad
Fire Safety Admin
2012/05/10 11:45:16
Looking up a favorite roadfood location that has been operating since 1926 got me thinking about the oldest roadfood restaurant.
 
A couple that came to mind were Louis Lunch (1895) and Lombardi's pizza (1897). Any other one's I am missing?
Michael Hoffman
Double-chop Porterhouse
Re:Oldest Roadfood Places? 2012/05/10 12:03:32
Tadich Grill is from 1897 (but opened originally as a coffee stand in 1849).
 
Cafe Du Monde, 1862. Central Grocery, 1906.
post edited by Michael Hoffman - 2012/05/10 12:45:58
buffetbuster
Porterhouse
Re:Oldest Roadfood Places? 2012/05/10 12:47:39
Tony, I would look towards Boston's Union Oyster House  (1826) and Durgin Park (1827).
Tony Bad
Fire Safety Admin
Re:Oldest Roadfood Places? 2012/05/10 12:55:24
Completely forgot about those landmarks! Doh. 
 
People from NY are not allowed to think of Boston 
 
(I am actually a Met fan, and by default, root for any enemy of Yankees)
buffetbuster
Porterhouse
Re:Oldest Roadfood Places? 2012/05/10 13:05:47
Tony, I am really surprised how old some of the places I visited on my recent trip are.  Eischen's Bar goes back to 1896, which is pretty impressive considering Oklahoma didn't become a state until 1907.  I tend to think of all the really old places being along the east coast, but that just isn't true.
post edited by buffetbuster - 2012/05/10 13:06:48
Tony Bad
Fire Safety Admin
Re:Oldest Roadfood Places? 2012/05/10 13:11:54
buffetbuster

Tony, I am really surprised how old some of the places I visited on my recent trip are.  Eischen's Bar goes back to 1896, which is pretty impressive considering Oklahoma didn't become a state until 1907.  I tend to think of all the really old places being along the east coast, but that just isn't true.

 
I figured there were lots of other places around the country that had survived for many years that I never saw or heard of. You would certainly be the one who could point them out! Given the nature of the restaurant business and how tastes evolve over time, it is doubly amazing when a food establishment stands the test of time for many, many years.
buffetbuster
Porterhouse
Re:Oldest Roadfood Places? 2012/05/10 13:53:47
Just in California I found:
 
Duarte's Tavern (1894)
Giusti's (1910)
Musso & Frank (1919)
Philippe The Original (1908)
Shields Date Garden (1924)
Swan Oyster Depot (1912)
 
A few others:
Dew Drop Inn in Alabama (1924)
El Charro in Arizona (1922)
tiki
Filet Mignon
Re:Oldest Roadfood Places? 2012/05/10 14:20:26
Cant remember the name of the place--but there is a chinese place in Saramento that goes back to gold rush days and is still owned by the same family!--at there--it was good--but cant remember the name!!! Can any of you west coasters help me out with this?
It always surprised me too when a west coast place was really old--then i remember that Spain had missions there LONG AGO--like 1769!
Most of us dont think of California being there till the GOLD was found! :)
 
billyboy
Double Chili Cheeseburger
Re:Oldest Roadfood Places? 2012/05/10 15:15:40
I'd also include:
Dorset Inn (1796) - Vermont
Bidwell Tavern & Cafe (1822) - Coventry, CT
Tadich Grill (1849) - San Francisco, CA
Wilton Candy Kitchen (1860) - Wilton, IA
Cafe du Monde (1862) - NOLA
Southside Market & Barbeque (1882) - Elgin, TX
F.H. Gillingham & Sons (1886) - Vermont
Peter Luger (1887) - Brooklyn, NY
Katz's Delicatessen
(1888) - NYC
Hartley's Original Pork Pies (1900) - Massachusetts
Kreuz Market (1900) - Lockhart, TX 
Sunseri Bros. aka Pennsylvania Macaroni Co. (1902) - Pittsburgh, PA
Santarpio's (1903) - East Boston, MA
Doumar's Cone & Barbecue (1904) - Norfolk, VA
Galatoire's (1905) - NOLA
Central Grocery (1906) - NOLA
Barney Greengrass (1908) - NYC
Cattlemen's (1910) - Oklahoma
ACME Oyster House (1910) - NOLA
Yonah Schimmel's (1910) - NYC
Sonny Bryan's (1910) - Dallas, TX
Robert Wholey & Co. (1912) - Pittsburgh, PA
Dyer's Burgers (1912) - Memphis, TN
 
 
Tony Bad, not sure I'd put Lombardi's on this list as it's not in the original location, doesn't have the original oven and was closed for about 10 years before being "resurrected" by new owners.  
post edited by billyboy - 2012/05/11 03:25:04
fishtaco
Double Cheeseburger
Re:Oldest Roadfood Places? 2012/05/10 15:45:49
Shapiros in Indy 1905
Bruce Bilmes and Susan Boyle
Double Chili Cheeseburger
Re:Oldest Roadfood Places? 2012/05/10 18:19:35
In NOLA:
Antoine's, 1840 (gray area re Roadfood)
Tujaque's, 1856
wanderingjew
Sirloin
Re:Oldest Roadfood Places? 2012/05/10 18:33:18
Can't forget one of my all time favorite Roadfood Restaurants in Denver
The Buckhorn Exchange 1893
joerogo
Filet Mignon
Re:Oldest Roadfood Places? 2012/05/10 20:12:08
I had lunch at a newbie on Monday.  Zorn's, just about 72 years young.  Old usually = good/great!
Glenn1234
Double Cheeseburger
Re:Oldest Roadfood Places? 2012/05/11 00:50:20
 
 
Goolrick's Pharmacy and Soda Fountain.  Fredericksburg, VA.  1863.   
 
 
Glenn
 
 
FriedClamFanatic
Double Chili Cheeseburger
Re:Oldest Roadfood Places? 2012/05/11 02:04:07
Union Street Oyster House........Bston..at least 1826
Foodbme
Porterhouse
Re:Oldest Roadfood Places? 2012/05/11 04:23:43
Rock Springs Cafe -1918 - Rock Springs, AZ
http://www.rockspringscafe.com/index.html
Oatman Hotel - 1902 - Oatman, AZ
http://www.legendsofamerica.com/az-oatmanhotel.html
El Tovar Hotel - 1905 - Grand Canyon, AZ
http://www.grandcanyonlodges.com/el-tovar-409.html
wanderingjew
Sirloin
Re:Oldest Roadfood Places? 2012/05/11 08:30:49
I thought of some more
The Martin Hotel Winnemuca NV 1898
and
Joe's Stone Crab - Miami Beach FL celebrates 99 years- they opened in 1913
buffetbuster
Porterhouse
Re:Oldest Roadfood Places? 2012/05/11 08:31:01
A few more.....
 
Indiana
Nick's Kitchen (1908)
St.Elmo's Steakhouse (1902)
 
Utah
Lamb's Grill (1919)
Idle Isle Cafe (1921)
 
Wisconsin
Jack Pandl's (1915)
White Gull Inn (1896)
Karl Ratzsch's (1904)
 
West Virginia
Coleman's Fish Market (1914)
 
Kansas
Cozy Inn (1922)
Brookville Hotel (1915)
 
Iowa
Breitbach's (1852)
Wilton Candy Kitchen (1910)
 
Virginia
Doumar's (1904)
ann peeples
Sirloin
Re:Oldest Roadfood Places? 2012/05/11 10:17:43
Sorry to say Jack Pandl's is closed now....
buffetbuster
Porterhouse
Re:Oldest Roadfood Places? 2012/05/11 10:19:37
Ann, one of the Jack Pandl's did close, but the Whitefish Bay location is still open.
ann peeples
Sirloin
Re:Oldest Roadfood Places? 2012/05/11 10:31:36
Yes-but the WFB location is not associated with Jack's. Its Pandl's Whitefish Bay Inn, and was owned by Jack's brother...thats the one started in 1915.Just a clarification!
Funny-just looked at the site you provided, and indeed it says Jack's! Never did before....I am wondering....
post edited by ann peeples - 2012/05/11 10:33:37
Tony Bad
Fire Safety Admin
Re:Oldest Roadfood Places? 2012/05/11 12:06:22
This is cool...see I was right...I had no idea!
Ralph Melton
Double Cheeseburger
Re:Oldest Roadfood Places? 2012/05/11 12:13:22
Another location: Schwabl's in Buffalo.
 
I'm not quite sure which date to choose of the many cited in http://www.schwabls.com/menu.pdf .
buffetbuster
Porterhouse
Re:Oldest Roadfood Places? 2012/05/11 13:49:37
Tony, I am curious why you chose the year 1926.  That was the year my father was born, but I'm guessing that wasn't the reason.
Tony Bad
Fire Safety Admin
Re:Oldest Roadfood Places? 2012/05/11 13:53:22
buffetbuster

Tony, I am curious why you chose the year 1926.  That was the year my father was born, but I'm guessing that wasn't the reason.

 
Hi Cliff...it was because of this  http://www.roadfood.com/Forums/fb.ashx?m=697489
 
I was reading their revised web page and saw this little shack had been there since 1926, which given the changes the area has undergone since then, was rather remarkable to me. It just got me thinking of some of the longer lasting roadfood places.
Bruce Bilmes and Susan Boyle
Double Chili Cheeseburger
Re:Oldest Roadfood Places? 2012/05/11 15:00:32
Saltsman's in NY - 1813
and maybe the record holder (at least for Roadfood-reviewed places), Griswold Inn in CT - 1776.
FriedClamFanatic
Double Chili Cheeseburger
Re:Oldest Roadfood Places? 2012/05/12 00:02:53
I did some googling.............as accurate as that may be.......but says Faunce's Tavern in NYC is the Oldest in the US......and some place in Spain goes back to 1725.........when I lived in the UK, it seemed some of the pubs I ate in were older than that......at least the food had been around longer than that
CCinNJ
Sirloin
Re:Oldest Roadfood Places? 2012/05/12 00:18:02
Dyer's in Memphis should get some special credit for 100 years in business...with the same ol'' oil still going strong.

Mc Sorley's in NYC was established in 1854.
post edited by CCinNJ - 2012/05/12 00:33:23
fishtaco
Double Cheeseburger
Re:Oldest Roadfood Places? 2012/05/12 10:01:43
buffetbuster

A few more.....

Indiana
Nick's Kitchen (1908)
St.Elmo's Steakhouse (1902)

Man how did I forget these two Hoosier gems.
billyboy
Double Chili Cheeseburger
Re:Oldest Roadfood Places? 2012/05/21 09:56:37
How about Ye Olde Pepper Companie in Salem, Massachusetts (across the street from the House of the Seven Gables)?  It's a candy shop started in 1806.  Gibralters (the first commercially made candy in America), Black Jacks, Horehound and Sassafras Slugs, Molasses Cuts, etc...
eruby
Double Cheeseburger
Re:Oldest Roadfood Places? 2012/05/21 14:36:52
Totonno's Pizza in Brooklyn is a relative youngster (1924), though I think they were closed for a while due to a fire.
Ketteract
Cheeseburger
Re:Oldest Roadfood Places? 2014/02/22 09:23:42
Lagomarcino's in Moline, Illinois has been around since 1908.  It's the only ice cream in the area that can hold a candle to Whitey's.
CCinNJ
Sirloin
Re:Oldest Roadfood Places? 2014/02/22 09:54:32
Fiore's Deli of <<<Hoboken>>> est. 1913.
lleechef
Sirloin
Re:Oldest Roadfood Places? 2014/02/22 11:03:31
Graeter's ice cream est. 1870.
TJ Jackson
Filet Mignon
Re:Oldest Roadfood Places? 2014/02/22 11:06:56
wanderingjew
Sirloin
Re:Oldest Roadfood Places? 2014/02/22 11:27:27
White Horse Tavern Newport RI  1673 (well sort of....)
http://www.whitehorsenewport.com/
Pancho
Double Cheeseburger
Re:Oldest Roadfood Places? 2014/02/22 11:33:45
Two of my San Francisco favorites are quite elderly...Tadich Grill 1849 and Swan Oyster Depot 1912. I would have no problem alternating between those two for my only meals for the rest of my life.
CCinNJ
Sirloin
Re:Oldest Roadfood Places? 2014/02/22 11:35:29
We had a waiter that I do believe dated back to opening day @ Tadich Grill.
Pancho
Double Cheeseburger
Re:Oldest Roadfood Places? 2014/02/22 11:51:06
CCinNJ

We had a waiter that I do believe dated back to opening day @ Tadich Grill.
Was he at least competent and did you get the sand dabs?

joerogo
Filet Mignon
Re:Oldest Roadfood Places? 2014/02/22 12:02:31
Speaking of old, how about the guy who started this thread!
plb
Double Chili Cheeseburger
Re:Oldest Roadfood Places? 2014/02/22 12:07:26
Pancho

CCinNJ

We had a waiter that I do believe dated back to opening day @ Tadich Grill.
Was he at least competent and did you get the sand dabs?

Interesting, that is the one dish I've had at Tadich Grill that I did not like.  And it is the dish I liked most at Sam's.
Pancho
Double Cheeseburger
Re:Oldest Roadfood Places? 2014/02/22 12:28:19
plb

Pancho

CCinNJ

We had a waiter that I do believe dated back to opening day @ Tadich Grill.
Was he at least competent and did you get the sand dabs?

Interesting, that is the one dish I've had at Tadich Grill that I did not like.  And it is the dish I liked most at Sam's.
Well then...for a more meaningful comparison I'll try the sand dabs at Sam's next time. I had sweet breads my last visit and they were great.

CCinNJ
Sirloin
Re:Oldest Roadfood Places? 2014/02/22 19:24:46
I had Crab & Lobster Thermidor @ Tadich Grill...which was wonderful.



As far as the service...

The busboy was very professional & cordial & saved the day when it came to being a buffer for some of the bizarre service from the waiter. The waiter was very abrupt & surly. He slammed my drink down on the table so hard I think the ice cubes are still in the air. That was something to navigate for about 75% of the experience. At that point (after getting no reaction from either one of us...& realizing we were having a good time laughing about the steak fries) the tide turned & he decided to become my dearest best friend. He had me by the arm trying to get me to promise to come back again.

Out of the twelves or thirteen places visited in San Francisco last year...that was the only somewhat crazy experience. The other two upscale places (House of Prime Rib & Yank Sing) were both stellar in terms of food & service.

I didn't read about Tadich Grill on Yelp before visiting because I always read positive things here about the service.

There are countless reviews on Yelp that mirror the less than wonderful parts of that experience It's an expensive restaurant & it should be mentioned for anyone who is considering a visit. It's a good thing to be prepared just in case it gets a little bizarre.
post edited by CCinNJ - 2014/02/22 19:25:50
lleechef
Sirloin
Re:Oldest Roadfood Places? 2014/02/22 19:33:11
Pancho

plb

Pancho

CCinNJ

We had a waiter that I do believe dated back to opening day @ Tadich Grill.
Was he at least competent and did you get the sand dabs?

Interesting, that is the one dish I've had at Tadich Grill that I did not like.  And it is the dish I liked most at Sam's.
Well then...for a more meaningful comparison I'll try the sand dabs at Sam's next time. I had sweet breads my last visit and they were great.

Did you say sweetbreads?  OMG, I love them.  I have cooked them many times, but not for MH because he doesn't care for them.  I have to find a restaurant that does them properly.  Biba (in Boston, now closed) did serve some spectacular grilled sweetbreads.
Turtle66
Cheeseburger
Re:Oldest Roadfood Places? 2014/02/23 00:48:09

Royal Hong King Lum Use to be the oldest restaurant in Sacramento till it closed. The oldest now is The Espanol family style italian restaurant in East Sacramento. 
espanolitalian.com






 
post edited by Turtle66 - 2014/02/23 00:51:59
MetroplexJim
Filet Mignon
Re:Oldest Roadfood Places? 2014/02/23 08:40:53
Turtle66

Royal Hong King Lum Use to be the oldest restaurant in Sacramento till it closed. The oldest now is The Espanol family style italian restaurant in East Sacramento. 
espanolitalian.com


 
Sure enough; it's over 90 years old. 

HollyDolly
Double Chili Cheeseburger
Re:Oldest Roadfood Places? 2014/03/07 17:30:05
The Nagelin Bakery in New Braunfels has been around since 1868 and is the oldest bakery in Texas. There are probably very  old places in San Antonio;Austin;etc. I just don't know all their names and dates.Been awhile since I've been to Nagelin's may have to make a trip up there. It's only about 12 miles or so from me.
It sits near the traffic circle by the Comal County courthouse downtown.
EdSails
Filet Mignon
Re:Oldest Roadfood Places? 2014/03/07 17:55:13
I used to live in Valencia near the oldest restaurant in L.A. County. The Saugus Cafe opened in 1899, right across from the railroad tracks. I still have memories of being there for breakfast on a weekend morning and watching a locomotive stop right across from the restaurant. As we looked out the window, the engineer got out, ran across San Fernando Road and came in to place an order. A little while later, he went back across and the train proceeded to start moving again. 
 
Here's the history of the Saugus Cafe.
post edited by EdSails - 2014/03/07 18:51:53
Michael Hoffman
Double-chop Porterhouse
Re:Oldest Roadfood Places? 2014/03/07 18:39:06
Your link is to a Place  called Tommy's, But I'm glad to see you referring to Cincinnati chili as Greek, but you left out "meat sauce."
EdSails
Filet Mignon
Re:Oldest Roadfood Places? 2014/03/07 18:57:25
Michael Hoffman

Your link is to a Place  called Tommy's, But I'm glad to see you referring to Cincinnati chili as Greek, but you left out "meat sauce."

Yikes, Michael, that's what I get when I try copying and pasting on too many things at once! Change noted and made....I think you'll find the link about the Saugus Cafe interesting. It's right where SR126 ended at the Old Road/San Fernando Road. Thanks for pointing it out!
 
BTW, if you're talking about where I am thinking about the "meat sauce", I think I actually called it "meat gravy". I know, not close enough!
post edited by EdSails - 2014/03/07 18:58:45