Chicago Dog...big deal!

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2012/06/13 16:57:16
Had my first one on Monday, in Chicago. My reaction, good dog, nice bun, the toppings we're a dog killer, IMHO, who needs a garden on a good dog?
Foodbme
Porterhouse
Re:Chicago Dog...big deal! 2012/06/13 18:24:55
Oh My Goodness Young Man!!!
Do you realize the rath and indignation you've brought upon yourself???
It's like condemning a dirty water dog because it's cooked in dirty water!
OMG@! 
chicagostyledog
Filet Mignon
Re:Chicago Dog...big deal! 2012/06/13 19:00:25
Thanks for kind words, chewingthefat. The Chicago dog is so good, it can be enjoyed with minimal toppings. John Fox eats his dogs plain plain and I prefer mustard. Before Chicago dogs were "dragged through the garden" during the Great Depression, the Chicago classic was dressed with mustard, relish, and onions on a plain bun. There are still a few original stands serving the classic, which includes a couple of sport peppers and handful of fries. http://www.cookingchannel...-dog-video/74588.html/
 
CSD-The Professor of Hot Dogs
leethebard
Sirloin
Re:Chicago Dog...big deal! 2012/06/13 19:26:54
Better than a chicago pizza!!!!!!....Just saying.....
Foodbme
Porterhouse
Re:Chicago Dog...big deal! 2012/06/13 19:30:34
leethebard
Better than a chicago pizza!!!!!!....Just saying.....

You can get in line with CTF to catch your Ration of S---!
TJ Jackson
Filet Mignon
Re:Chicago Dog...big deal! 2012/06/13 19:32:11
leethebard
Better than a chicago pizza!!!!!!....Just saying.....

What's wrong with Chicago pizza, pray tell?
leethebard
Sirloin
Re:Chicago Dog...big deal! 2012/06/13 19:42:47
Nothing...it's just a preference. It's more a thick upside-down pizza...If I want thick pizza...a well made sicilian slice for me,,,Chicago pizza is more like a caserole.
TJ Jackson
Filet Mignon
Re:Chicago Dog...big deal! 2012/06/13 20:13:32
leethebard
Nothing...it's just a preference. It's more a thick upside-down pizza...If I want thick pizza...a well made sicilian slice for me,,,Chicago pizza is more like a caserole.

Oh, so you're not aware that there is more than one style of Chicago pizza.
 
I understand now
 
Carry on
chicagostyledog
Filet Mignon
Re:Chicago Dog...big deal! 2012/06/13 21:04:01
Chicagoans are keen connoisseurs of three popular foods: hot dogs, pizza, and Italian beef. For what ever the reason, Chicago is the only city in the world where the first few questions you ask any stranger you meet are: "Where did you go to high school?" What was your parish or synagogue?' What hot dog stand did you go to?" What's your favorite pizza?" "What's your favorite Italian beef?" While Italian beef is a Chicago thing, pizza styles are all over the board: thick pizza, thin pizza, stuffed pizza, and pizza pot pie. My preference is cracker thin crust, no thicker than a credit card. Come to Chicago, try them all, then state your preference.
rumaki
Double Chili Cheeseburger
Re:Chicago Dog...big deal! 2012/06/14 10:40:20
I agree!  To condemn all Chicago pizza because one doesn't care for the Pizzeria Uno/Due-type deep dish is unfair, in my opinion. I went to college at Northwestern and at that stage of my life, thick crust pizza from the now-defunct Dante's Inferno in Evanston was my favorite, but my roommates couldn't stand it.  I couldn't see the point of the Uno/Due pizza, or stuffed pizza, myself.  There was a place called Il Forno, later name changed to the Royal Chessmen, in one of the northern suburbs (I'm thinking Winnetka, but maybe it was Wilmette) that had a wonderful pizza with a crust that was like puff pastry -- I always had it with mushrooms and breakfast bacon.  Yummmm.  And on my most recent trips to Chicago, I made a bee-line for Lou Malnati's -- thin crust!
 
So I agree.  Try them all before you condemn them.
 
And I miss Chicago-style dogs.  I always used to go to Fluky's.  There are a couple of hot dog places in the Twin Cities that try to replicate them, but they just aren't the same.  http://www.chrisandrobs.com/     http://www.unclefrankys.com/
 
De gustibus non est disputandum.
 
 
 
kevincad
Cheeseburger
Re:Chicago Dog...big deal! 2012/06/14 10:43:40
TJ Jackson

leethebard
Better than a chicago pizza!!!!!!....Just saying.....

What's wrong with Chicago pizza, pray tell?

 
In my humble opinion, the chicago pizza isn't a pizza, it's a casserole! It's good, but it's just not a pizza!
brisketboy
Double Chili Cheeseburger
Re:Chicago Dog...big deal! 2012/06/14 10:52:05
I grew up on the notrh side on Montrose avenue and I ate whatever pie I could afford at the time. The best dogs were sold at Wrigley field and a little stand on North Clark. Here in Texas there is a pizza wasteland of Domino'sPizzaHutPapaJohnsPapaMurpheys and little else. But to save the day, there is a place called Man Bites Dog that makes a passable Chicago dog. No joy on the Italian beef though.
kland01s
Filet Mignon
Re:Chicago Dog...big deal! 2012/06/14 11:18:38
kevincad

TJ Jackson

leethebard
Better than a chicago pizza!!!!!!....Just saying.....

What's wrong with Chicago pizza, pray tell?


In my humble opinion, the chicago pizza isn't a pizza, it's a casserole! It's good, but it's just not a pizza!

 
Chicago pizza is NOT deep dish or stuffed! I have lived here all of my life (65 yrs.) and the pizza I grew up on as a teen was cracker thin crust mostly found in bars or bowling alleys. The first mom and pop pizza joint in my town was about 1962, they were the first place that delivered and they made thin crust only. I didn't have a deep dish until I was in my 20's and that wast going downtown and having it at Uno's, nobody out in the 'burbs made them.
leethebard
Sirloin
Re:Chicago Dog...big deal! 2012/06/14 11:58:03
Sorry...I guess I only knew of the upside down pizza....as a lover of pizza...and since I've eaten it in many forms, in many parts of the world, I'm more than willing to give Chicago the benefit of the doubt...and try a sampling someday. Thanks guys, for setting me straight!!!
TJ Jackson
Filet Mignon
Re:Chicago Dog...big deal! 2012/06/14 12:48:57
kevincad

TJ Jackson

leethebard
Better than a chicago pizza!!!!!!....Just saying.....

What's wrong with Chicago pizza, pray tell?


In my humble opinion, the chicago pizza isn't a pizza, it's a casserole! It's good, but it's just not a pizza!

so you too are also not aware of the other Chicago styles.....ah well, hopefully you will learn
kevincad
Cheeseburger
Re:Chicago Dog...big deal! 2012/06/14 13:05:08
TJ Jackson

kevincad

TJ Jackson

leethebard
Better than a chicago pizza!!!!!!....Just saying.....

What's wrong with Chicago pizza, pray tell?


In my humble opinion, the chicago pizza isn't a pizza, it's a casserole! It's good, but it's just not a pizza!

so you too are also not aware of the other Chicago styles.....ah well, hopefully you will learn

 
Other "styles" are other styles, Chicago style is Chicago style! Meaning, other styles may be served there, but the deep dish is truly a Chicago area invention. 
Phildelmar
Double Cheeseburger
Re:Chicago Dog...big deal! 2012/06/14 13:15:51
All I know is, however brief my stay in Chicago, it never fails to include some of the dogs. I've had pale copies elsewhere but none measure up.
TJ Jackson
Filet Mignon
Re:Chicago Dog...big deal! 2012/06/14 14:17:55
kevincad
Other "styles" are other styles, Chicago style is Chicago style! Meaning, other styles may be served there, but the deep dish is truly a Chicago area invention. 

Mostly incorrect.
 
Deep dish is certainly associated with Chicago
 
So is it's first cousin, the lesser-known stuffed pizza
 
But there are other specifically Chicago styles where the crust is thin.
 
Said another way: there is more than one "Chicago style" and not all of them are thick crusted
 
The good news here is that this site is geared towards dispensing this sort of information, so folks who read a lot here will over time learn many things like this.  I certainly have, and still am.
leethebard
Sirloin
Re:Chicago Dog...big deal! 2012/06/14 17:17:57
The deep dish,inverted pizza is what the world admits is Chicago style...All those other styles are available many places...Stuffed pizza, like Calzones and the like have been served in Italian pizzarias for as long as my 66 years and Italian heritage can remember...nothing unique about that. I'm sure Chicago Italians have been making all those styles for decades also......but unique, created there...don't think so!
leethebard
Sirloin
Re:Chicago Dog...big deal! 2012/06/14 17:25:00
Did some research...and perhaps I owe some of you an apology...at least Wikipedia lists several Chicago pies..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago-style_pizza
l seem to be variations of what Italians have been serving for generations. The article mentions the stuffed pie was based on the Italian Easter pie, which I grew up on in the 50's....Still that deep dish pie is a Pizza Uno invention and clearly a Chicago creation!
post edited by leethebard - 2012/06/14 17:26:01
ann peeples
Sirloin
Re:Chicago Dog...big deal! 2012/06/14 17:42:19
Funny story-the inventor of Numero and Due were from Texas.While a good pie, not necessary Chicago style pizza. Just brought a new style to the Windy City.And these people liked it..........
 
gostillerz
Cheeseburger
Re:Chicago Dog...big deal! 2012/06/14 22:11:07
No talking pizza in a hot dog thread
 
I love Chicago dogs. I make them at home all of the time. I think the toppings go together really good, they contrast in flavor and texture. 
leethebard
Sirloin
Re:Chicago Dog...big deal! 2012/06/14 23:15:30
ann peeples

Funny story-the inventor of Numero and Due were from Texas.While a good pie, not necessary Chicago style pizza. Just brought a new style to the Windy City.And these people liked it..........



Does that legally make it Texas style pizza?????
Foodbme
Porterhouse
Re:Chicago Dog...big deal! 2012/06/15 04:27:47
What Happened???
Thought this was a hot dog thread???
So why doesn't someone make a Chicago Dog Pizza?????
 
Chicagostyledog, As the Blues Brothers of Chicago Fame would say, "You're on a Mission from God!" Your assignment is to sneak into the Test Kitchen at Vienna Beef and create "The World's First Chicago Dog Pizza!"
 
Pick whatever thickness crust you think is your definition of a Chicago Crust, sprinkle some poppy seeds on the crust & spread some sauce on it, cover the pie with slices of Vienna Beef Natural Casing Weenies, or grind up some skinless weenies and spread it around like sausage, squirt some Plochmann's yellow mustard around, dice up some onions and throw those on there, sprinkle some Neon Green relish around, toss some tomato wedges on there and top it off with some chopped Sport Peppers! Serve with a pickle on the side!
You will be a hero! The CEO of Vienna Beef will give you a big raise for coming up with a whole new market segment and outlet for Vienna's Weenies!. The Stock will hit an all time high! They'll hold a parade in your honor! Give you Season Tickets to Da Cubs & Da Bears Games! Re-name O'Hare International Mark Reitman Field!
chicagostyledog
Filet Mignon
Re:Chicago Dog...big deal! 2012/06/15 07:55:00
kevincad
Cheeseburger
Re:Chicago Dog...big deal! 2012/06/15 08:18:47
TJ Jackson

kevincad
Other "styles" are other styles, Chicago style is Chicago style! Meaning, other styles may be served there, but the deep dish is truly a Chicago area invention. 

Mostly incorrect.

Deep dish is certainly associated with Chicago

So is it's first cousin, the lesser-known stuffed pizza

But there are other specifically Chicago styles where the crust is thin.

Said another way: there is more than one "Chicago style" and not all of them are thick crusted

The good news here is that this site is geared towards dispensing this sort of information, so folks who read a lot here will over time learn many things like this.  I certainly have, and still am.

 
What other "Chicago style" pizza is a Chicago only invention?
chicagostyledog
Filet Mignon
Re:Chicago Dog...big deal! 2012/06/15 08:34:20
Pizza Pot Pie is a Chicago style. www.chicagopizzaandovengrinder.com
TJ Jackson
Filet Mignon
Re:Chicago Dog...big deal! 2012/06/15 09:09:11
Invention has little to do with it
ann peeples
Sirloin
Re:Chicago Dog...big deal! 2012/06/15 11:23:17
Anyway, I love a Chicago style dog. I get one at every chance. My cousins from California thought they were awesome, and my cousins from N.C. loved them. I have sent them all kits from Vienna Beef company. Guess its a matter of taste....but I also like all sorts of hot dogs from different regions!!
brisketboy
Double Chili Cheeseburger
Re:Chicago Dog...big deal! 2012/06/15 11:48:24
What is a kit from Vienna Beef ?
brisketboy
Double Chili Cheeseburger
Re:Chicago Dog...big deal! 2012/06/15 11:51:21
Just googled it...$89.99 for 16 hot dogs and 16 buns. I'm not against anyone making money but ...89.99...seriously?
BuddyRoadhouse
Filet Mignon
Re:Chicago Dog...big deal! 2012/06/15 13:29:58
CSD, your intentions are clear with that pizza video, but as the lone commentator correctly states, "Sorry Fred, there's nothing in this video that is "Chicago style" anything."
 
Buddy
ann peeples
Sirloin
Re:Chicago Dog...big deal! 2012/06/15 13:36:50
Well, one year ago, the kit included the neon relish, dogs, buns, mustard, etc........and who cares, darling.I spent my money the way I wanted to. Family is important.
brisketboy
Double Chili Cheeseburger
Re:Chicago Dog...big deal! 2012/06/15 13:48:48
ann I wasn't trying to come off rude I was just shocked at the price. Not something I was expecting.
ann peeples
Sirloin
Re:Chicago Dog...big deal! 2012/06/15 14:12:00
Ok, darling-I am a little sensitive these days!!! Sorry...........you are right-pretty expensive!!!
kevincad
Cheeseburger
Re:Chicago Dog...big deal! 2012/06/15 14:19:59
TJ Jackson

Invention has little to do with it

 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago-style_pizza
 
TJ Jackson
Filet Mignon
Re:Chicago Dog...big deal! 2012/06/15 15:22:22
quote wikipedia all you want, invention still has nothing to do with it
chicagostyledog
Filet Mignon
Re:Chicago Dog...big deal! 2012/06/15 22:15:21
BuddyRoadhouse

CSD, your intentions are clear with that pizza video, but as the lone commentator correctly states, "Sorry Fred, there's nothing in this video that is "Chicago style" anything."

Buddy

 
The only thing from Chicago on that pizza is the Vienna Beef jalapeño cheddar dog.
BuddyRoadhouse
Filet Mignon
Re:Chicago Dog...big deal! 2012/06/15 22:37:29
Amen, brudder!
 
Buddy
RodBangkok
Cheeseburger
Re:Chicago Dog...big deal! 2012/06/15 22:57:46
Thought this might be of interest:
http://pmq.com/news/news.php?id=15451
 
As a person that does not get back very often my favorite is a downtown deep dish, but if staying more than a day or two its back to good old thin tavern style for me!  
FWIW, As for a Chicago dog, a loaded garden is my choice every time.  
chicagostyledog
Filet Mignon
Re:Chicago Dog...big deal! 2012/06/15 23:01:01
Buddy and anyone else in the Chicago area,
I'll be on the south side tomorrow for the grand opening of the Salvation Army Ray & Joan Kroc Corps Community Ccenter. If you're in the area stop by. I'm running a cart that will be serving area VIP's and the indoor concession stand. There will be two Salvation Army Canteen Trucks on the campus also serving food. Vienna Beef donated the hot dogs and Hot Dog University trained the staff. www.kroccenterchicago.org/