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Re:L.A. Confidential - Sun, 01/6/13 12:12 PM
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Thank you to everyone for reading the trip report and I genuinely appreciate the nice comments.  And I wanted to send a big thank you to mar52 for all her insights and the contributions she added to this thread.

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Re:L.A. Confidential - Sun, 01/6/13 12:20 PM
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Does this mean that I have to present bb with an Emmy  in Mobile??

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Re:L.A. Confidential - Sun, 01/6/13 12:24 PM
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One of the best reports I've seen here!
Excellent!!

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Re:L.A. Confidential - Sun, 01/6/13 2:18 PM
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lleechef


Does this mean that I have to present bb with an Emmy  in Mobile??

 
Absolutely...let's keep his acceptance speech down to 2 hours this year...when he named and thnaked every slice of pie, it got wordy!


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Re:L.A. Confidential - Sun, 01/6/13 2:37 PM
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Thank you, Buffetbuster, but the enjoyment was all mine.  I really loved your pictures and opinions of some of my favorite places while also introducing me to places I didn't know.
 
Thank you!

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Re:L.A. Confidential - Sun, 01/6/13 2:45 PM
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lleechef


Does this mean that I have to present bb with an Emmy  in Mobile??


Can't. The guy I stole the trophies from went out of business.

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Re:L.A. Confidential - Sun, 01/6/13 4:59 PM
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lleechef


Does this mean that I have to present bb with an Emmy  in Mobile??


Absolutely...let's keep his acceptance speech down to 2 hours this year...when he named and thnaked every slice of pie, it got wordy!

How are we gonna do that?  This thread alone has lasted 33 days and spans 13 pages!


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Re:L.A. Confidential - Sun, 01/6/13 5:09 PM
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I looked forward, every day, to reading this report....Fantastic!

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Re:L.A. Confidential - Sun, 01/6/13 8:32 PM
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I'm kinda sad it's over.....

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Re:L.A. Confidential - Sun, 01/6/13 9:49 PM
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More on Irv's Burgers and it's not good news.
 
First a Ruby's location and now Irv's?  Are these places being BB'd?
 
http://westhollywood.patc...ssure-by-new-neighbors
 

Irv's Burgers Owner Claims Pressure by New Neighbors

Irv's Burgers
8289 Santa Monica Blvd, West Hollywood, CA






Irv's Burgers Owner Claims Pressure by New Neighbors

The property owner denies any threat to the longstanding burger stand that is a designated Weho cultural resource.

 


A 2011 drawing shows the proposed cafe next to Irv's Burgers on Santa Monica Blvd. Schoos Design


Photos http://hss-prod.hss.aol.c...7d31957c48cfbd51d8dae7" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"> Credit Schoos Design














The owner of a West Hollywood hamburger stand that the city has designated a local cultural resource claimed she has been pressured to relocate in order to make way for a new restaurant.
 
Sonia Hong, owner of 62-year-old Irv's Burgers, said associates of her new commercial neighbors went to the sidewalk eatery in late December bearing warnings of a rent increase, termination of her month-to-month lease and offers of leads to new places where she could relocate Irv's. Hong said she didn't know the full names of the individuals who approached her.
 
"There's two units in this one lot," Hong said. "This guy who's putting a coffee shop is trying to kick me out of this place, and he's trying to put his own mini-Johnny Rockets. ... I want to stay here and work it out instead of getting kicked out. "
Hong and her family, who are originally from Korea, have owned Irv's since 2000 when they invested their life savings and purchased the business for $100,000.
"For years there have been different owners telling me to wait for a [long-term] lease because they're going to fix the property up," Hong said. "It's not fair."
 
The latest round of attempts to upgrade the property at 8289-8293 Santa Monica Blvd. began in January 2011 when the West Hollywood Historic Preservation Commission approved plans for a beach-themed cafe next to Irv's in addition to improvements to the burger stand.
 
Los Angeles-based property owner Steven Bohbot said he intends to keep the Hongs as tenants and incorporate Irv's into the property's redevelopment plan.
"Our whole concept is assimilating Irv's old school with this new design, we're even doing improvements to Irv's," Bohbot said.
 
"I don't know why she's so worried ... I definitely would not want them to leave," he added.
 
Bohbot said Michael Berman, a principal in Schoos Design which designed the proposed restaurant, is a partner in the cafe business. The landowner couldn't identify any other cafe partners.
 
Schoos Design spokesman Matthew Hutchison declined to comment on the project until plans are more finalized and wouldn't identify Berman's partners in the cafe business.
 
The West Hollywood Community Development Department couldn't identify the cafe entrepreneurs.
 
"The city does not have that information yet," Senior Planner Francisco Contreras said in an email to Patch. "Typically we will find out when that business comes in to apply for a business license."
 
Mayor Jeffrey Prang sent a letter to Bohbot dated Dec. 20 that praised the Hong family and urged for Irv's preservation at its current historic Route 66 location.
"The Hongs are a special family," Prang wrote. "Few business people become as important to the social fabric of a community as the business, but the Hongs have achieved that treasured status. It is my fervent hope and my urgent request that you do everything possible to preserve Irv's as an historic community institution, and allow the Hongs to continue to operate their hard earned family business."
 
Currently the city’s Building and Safety Division is considering a building permits application for the cafe, Contreras said.
 
Irv's faced demolition in 2004 when then-property owner Gregg Seltzer of Santa Monica filed an application to demolish the burger stand to accommodate a Peet's coffee shop.
 
 
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I guess declaring a location an historic or cultural landmark means nothing now.
 
Very sad for the future.




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Re:L.A. Confidential - Sun, 01/6/13 10:11 PM
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Great report, BB. I went to Cole's PE Buffet in downtown LA today and all I could think of is how I could possibly hit as many places as you did and not be full by noon!

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Re:L.A. Confidential - Sun, 01/6/13 11:20 PM
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Thanks  for a great report.Trudy and i will use this info when we go to SoCall for 5 days on Thursday.

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Re:L.A. Confidential - Mon, 01/7/13 2:29 AM
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Wait. I missed out on a chance at a photo op with the Anteater? Now I am bummed...and need to go back to SoCal.

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Re:L.A. Confidential - Mon, 01/7/13 5:52 AM
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TTM-
Since you have been to Irvine before, I just assumed you already had the anteater photo in your collection.
 
EdSails-
I was really hoping to revisit Cole's on this trip, but there was just too many other stops.  My first visit was over a decade ago and I don't remember much about it.   How was it and does it compare to Philippe's?
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Re:L.A. Confidential - Mon, 01/7/13 7:09 AM
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lleechef


Does this mean that I have to present bb with an Emmy  in Mobile??
Trust me, the trophy you and Michael gave last year in Nashville is much better than an Emmy! 
 
mar52-
Yeah, that makes me nervous.  You would think that Irv's status as a historical landmark would save it from this kind of thing, but apparently not.  The truth is, Irv's is located on a very valuable piece of property and there will always be people thinking of ways to get them out of there.


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Re:L.A. Confidential - Mon, 01/7/13 7:30 AM
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As a final roundup.....
 
Favorite restaurants:
Mariton 1) Brophy Brothers
            2) LG's Prime Steak House
            3) El Campeon
            4) Pho Tranh Lich
            5) Killer Shrimp
 
Cliff 1) Irv's
      2) Brophy Brothers
      3) Du-Par's
      4) LG's Prime Steak House
      5) Jocko's Steakhouse
 
Best Tourist Attraction
Mariton - Ronald Reagan Presidential Foundation & Library
Cliff - Palm Springs Aerial Tramway
 
Best Hotel
Mariton - Mission Inn
Cliff - Mission Inn
 
Total Miles Driven - 1,314  Which is lowest total I ever remember on a week long vacation.

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Re:L.A. Confidential - Mon, 01/7/13 8:36 AM
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Lisa-
  Perhaps not a trophy, unless MH makes the rounds of thrift-shops in Columbus, But a definite place on the formal agenda at the Brick Pit BBQ in Mobile for the BB and his companions for their continuing contributions to the Roadfood Community.

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Re:L.A. Confidential - Mon, 01/7/13 10:13 AM
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BB: because of your wonderful thread, Roz and I have decided to make our round the USA trip to her graduation to include the entire west coast with a copy of all your visits.  We estimate the entire trip will entail about 7,000 miles and three weeks.  We will start in Chicago, MPLS, Montana, Oregon, Washington, California, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, Louisiana and then back to Knoxville.
 
When we have our restaurant agenda and GPS loaded up, we will notify you.
 
We can never duplicate your efforts or trips or photos but rest assured, because of you, we will try.
 
Paul E. Smith
Knoxville, TN

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Re:L.A. Confidential - Mon, 01/7/13 11:15 AM
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Paul-
Wow!  That is fantastic!  I am already jealous of the great trip and adventure you have to look forward to.

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Re:L.A. Confidential - Mon, 01/7/13 12:38 PM
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lleechef


Does this mean that I have to present bb with an Emmy  in Mobile??


Absolutely...let's keep his acceptance speech down to 2 hours this year...when he named and thnaked every slice of pie, it got wordy!
I want you to know that this was Mariton's favorite post in the entire thread! 


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Re:L.A. Confidential - Mon, 01/7/13 12:45 PM
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How fun! Good for Mariton!

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Re:L.A. Confidential - Mon, 01/7/13 2:59 PM
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We spent half the lunch debating that exact topic. Pricewise, it is definitely more expensive-----depending on what sandwich you get, as much as twice as expensive. At Cole's the lamb sandwich was quote at "Market Price" which was $13.75. Phillipe's it's alway like $7.50. Philippe's has the old standards for sides wihile Cole's adds some interesting sides like garlic sweet potato fries. If you are looking for pickled eggs you are out of luck at Cole's and same with beets. Sandwich sizes I believe are much smaller at Cole's. The consensus of the group, not counting me, was that Cole's sandwiches were tastier and the mustard/horseradish combo was better. They also liked the fact that you could get a full bar and drink specials ($7 for a Bloody mary on sunday before 3PM). I think they also liked the fact you had a full wait staff and didn't have to wait in line. The interior of cole's is like a nice, old steakhouse including a full bar while Phillipe's is known for it's communal tables and waiting in line for your food (which I think is actually faster then the service at Cole's). Cole's allows you to order cheese on your sandwich which I'm sure everyone at Phillipe's would be horrified by. Overall, the group (except for me) gave the nod to Cole's. For me, I think I'm still a Phillipe's fan. Final thought: I think it's worth trying both.
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TTM-
Since you have been to Irvine before, I just assumed you already had the anteater photo in your collection.

EdSails-
I was really hoping to revisit Cole's on this trip, but there was just too many other stops.  My first visit was over a decade ago and I don't remember much about it.   How was it and does it compare to Philippe's?



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Re:L.A. Confidential - Mon, 01/7/13 4:33 PM
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Splendid report. I always enjoy reading your reports.

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Re:L.A. Confidential - Mon, 01/7/13 6:11 PM
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^^^ I agree!! I completely enjoyed this trip report. I couldn't wait for the next posts. I am disappointed it is over.  
Great way to start the New Year, though ~~Roadfood style!!
 
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Re:L.A. Confidential - Mon, 01/7/13 6:31 PM
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"Okay, here is something I don't understand.  This is a very nice upscale restaurant and you would expect there to be some kind of dress code.  And most of the people were dressed appropriately.  But, there was one table in which it surprised me with what they were wearing.  Two of the women wore flip-flops.  One man had on a hoodie, sweatpants and a baseball cap.  Now, I am a very casual person by nature.  I wear a hooded sweatshirt everyday to work during the Winter and jeans and a t-shirt during the Summer.  And I'm not a big fan of getting dressed up for dinner.  But, isn't it kind of expected at a restaurant like LG's?  Maybe I am blaming the wrong party, since it is up to the restaurant to enforce some kind of dress code.  Maybe I am making too big of a deal out of this, since how they were dressed had no effect on our dinner.  It is just a little pet peeve of mine. "
 
I agree, when going to a more upscale restaurant, that, at the very least, dressing appropriately should be commonplace, and expected. However, in this day and time, when restaurants are struggling, I have experienced that restaurants, no matter how upscale, will not turn anyone away. If you have the $$$, they do not care anymore how you are dressed. I know it is unfortunate, but restaurants cannot afford to turn away paying customers for their lack of consideration of a dress code.
 

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Re:L.A. Confidential - Mon, 01/7/13 10:12 PM
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Upscale in California means you have to wear clothes.

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Re:L.A. Confidential - Tue, 01/8/13 8:12 AM
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soozycue520
 
   However, in this day and time, when restaurants are struggling, I have experienced that restaurants, no matter how upscale, will not turn anyone away. If you have the $$$, they do not care anymore how you are dressed. 
An excellent point and one I did not consider.  And I believe you are correct!


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Re:L.A. Confidential - Wed, 01/9/13 3:11 AM
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This was a wonderful trip report and very relevant to me personally. Thanks for the work u do on these reports. I may be adding my 2 cents worth soon.= on a couple places.
 

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Re:L.A. Confidential - Wed, 01/9/13 6:22 AM
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mr chips-
If you do visit some of these places, please report back.  We would love to hear your 2 cents worth.  Have a great time in SoCal and safe travels!
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Re:L.A. Confidential - Sun, 01/13/13 11:53 AM
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There was a picture of Mission Inn on the front page of this morning's Travel section of the paper which made me think of you and Mariton.  Except your pictures were much better!

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Re:L.A. Confidential - Sun, 01/13/13 1:41 PM
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lleechef-
Thanks so much for letting me know that about the Mission Inn.  I will try and find the article on line.
 
Here is the article.
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Re:L.A. Confidential - Sun, 01/13/13 2:08 PM
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Wow, what a great Roadfood trip report, Buffetbuster!
 
I haven't been to LA since 2008, and I'm getting an urge to return, now.  I wanted to go to Killer Shrimp, but they were out of business.  I got to Apple Pan, but they were closed on Sunday.  So was Langer's

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Re:L.A. Confidential - Sun, 01/13/13 2:15 PM
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Hey MiamiDon, you may want to change your Roadfood password.  It appears TheTravelin Man has hacked into your account!

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Re:L.A. Confidential - Sun, 01/13/13 4:25 PM
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Well, BB, here's some of the differences between Cole's and Phillipe's:
 
Cole's Beef dip with cheese
 

 
Phillipe's lamb dip
 

 
 
Tray with beets and cole slaw at Phillipes
 

Cole's spicy garlic sweet potato fries
 

 
 
Cole's Interior
 

 
 
Phillipe's Counter
 

 
So, what do you think?
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Re:L.A. Confidential - Sun, 01/13/13 5:02 PM
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As always, when I come to the end of your reports I feel like I am at the end of a favorite book! Thanks so much for taking the time to post all of the reports you do!

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Re:L.A. Confidential - Sun, 01/13/13 5:21 PM
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buffetbuster


Hey MiamiDon, you may want to change your Roadfood password.  It appears TheTravelin Man has hacked into your account!
LOL!


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Re:L.A. Confidential - Mon, 01/14/13 3:29 PM
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EdSails-
Thanks so much for the photos.  They both look good to me.  I really like the look of Cole's with the dark wood and the booths.  My previous visit to Cole's was late at night, we were tired and that probably didn't help our opinion of the place.  I need to give them another shot. 

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Re:L.A. Confidential - Wed, 01/16/13 11:46 PM
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I was prepared to like Cole's. It was opaque, a dark bar with little light and the looks of a 50's club. There was a 5-dollar manhattan available if we ordered a large sandwich. The location in the jewelry district of downtown L.A. makes it seem almost as if in another city and time. The sandwich, however, was not all that special. Phillipe's while also atmospheric, has a much better sandwich. Cole's was just okay. it wasn't a ripoff, the manhattan was good but Trudy and i preferred a  prime rib French dip at London's in Pasadena,, a delightful t sandwich that stirs the memory.
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Re:L.A. Confidential - Thu, 01/17/13 8:57 PM
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mr chips-
I hope you take the time to write about your recent adventures in Southern California, either here or in your own trip report.  Looking forward to reading about where you ate.

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Re:L.A. Confidential - Fri, 01/18/13 7:01 PM
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I will Cliff. I took ill in California and today is the first day i have had much energy in the last week.

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Re:L.A. Confidential - Fri, 01/18/13 7:07 PM
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Good to hear you are felling a little better.
mr chips


I will Cliff. I took ill in California and today is the first day i have had much energy in the last week.



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Re:L.A. Confidential - Fri, 01/18/13 7:08 PM
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Glad to hear you are feeling better Jim and looking forward to the report.

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Re:L.A. Confidential - Tue, 01/22/13 6:47 PM
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There are a number of Roscoe's locations. Unless you hit the one in Hollywood, they are unpredictable.
 

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Re:L.A. Confidential - Mon, 10/21/13 5:41 PM
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Wow!  It was great to be able to re-read though this comprehensive report again!   
 
Janet and I will be heading out to Southern California again this upcoming Thanksgiving.   I found it a funny coincidence that we flew out there on Thanksgiving Day 2 years ago (2011), and the first place we ate was DuPar's (they were one of the few places open that day).    Then, a year later (2012), BuffetBister flew out on Thanksgiving Day and hit DuPar's as his first stop. 
  
Now again, Janet and I will be flying out on Thanksgiving Day (2013).    Yup, we plan to hit Du-Par's first. 
 
Buffetbuster -  You need to plan to fly out there for Thanksgiving 2014 to keep the pattern going! 
 
 
Glenn
 

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Re:L.A. Confidential - Tue, 10/22/13 7:43 AM
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I'm glad Glenn bumped this report!  I've been wanting to visit SoCal again for a while now, but postponed it because of a job this summer.  This report is one I'll be "mining" to help me refine my plans.
 
When you mentioned the "smooth" corned beef, it reminded me that most of the corned beef and pastrami out here are not brisket, as is prevalent back east.  Rather, I believe some major producer(s) use eye of round or some similar type cut, which makes for a very different product.  Maybe someone else can expand on this, but that's what I've seen the most of out here.  I'm not a fan of it.

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Re:L.A. Confidential - Sun, 01/12/14 2:34 PM
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mar52

Did your pancakes separate horizontally when cutting them?  Asking because it has happened the last few times I went there.  Doesn't detract from the taste or enjoyment...  I just wonder why.

Underdone...???   Grill a little too cool...???

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Re:L.A. Confidential - Sun, 01/12/14 2:52 PM
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mr chips
 
i preferred a  prime rib French dip at Loondon's in Pasadena,, a delightful t sandwich that stirs the memory.


I'll have to check this place out...even though I'm a country boy that avoids LA like the black plague...
 
At least Coles gives you Au Jus to actually dip in...
 
Mar & I have had a debate in the past about the practice of dipping the meat first, then putting it on a bun, which in my opinion creates a real soggy **mess** ...
 
I went to Philippe's because it was within walking distance to LA Union Station...(If I'm in that area again I'll go eat Mexican on Olvera Street instead)...
 
I don't really care about the "who invented the F.D." advertising wars...but I **do** know what I like, and what I like is a F.D. that is moist but NOT pre-dipped, on a dry bun/roll and a bowl of Au Jus to actually dip it into... Coles & Philippes are the only places on earth I've seen where they pre-dip the sandwich, and I'll never go there again...
 
In my **jaded** opinion the very BEST French Dip is at "Jax by the tracks" in Truckee...so big you could easily feed two people...their CFS is also recommended...
 


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Re:L.A. Confidential - Sun, 01/12/14 3:14 PM
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buffetbuster
 
it is sad but true that El Gallito was as good if not better than any we have here in Pittsburgh. 

 
That must have come as a real shock, huh...???
 
A friend of mine is a yak rancher in northern Maine...poor boy has not had real Mexican food since 2000 when here in CA...
 
I just don't think of anyplace east of the Big Muddy as having decent Mexican food, while I could be wrong and there might be a **few** places authentico, as a native of CA & traveled around the southwest eating where Campesino's eat I cannot fathom Mexican food in Philly...just as not every Mexican food place in the SW is great...as always, our  results will vary...
 
PS..."Pico De Gallo" is also a salsa, and even the title of a song...
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Re:L.A. Confidential - Sun, 01/12/14 3:31 PM
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LG's Prime Steak House.  

Okay, here is something I don't understand.  This is a very nice upscale restaurant and you would expect there to be some kind of dress code.  And most of the people were dressed appropriately.  But, there was one table in which it surprised me with what they were wearing.  Two of the women wore flip-flops.  One man had on a hoodie, sweatpants and a baseball cap. 

 
Welcome to California...some folks are very casual 24/7/365...also, many of them not only do not know HOW to dress for dinner, they also just don't HAVE the clothes to do it. I know people like that guy in the hoodie & sweatpants, and that's all he wears...
 
buffetbuster

Now, I am a very casual person by nature.  I wear a hooded sweatshirt everyday to work during the Winter and jeans and a t-shirt during the Summer.  And I'm not a big fan of getting dressed up for dinner.  But, isn't it kind of expected at a restaurant like LG's?  Maybe I am blaming the wrong party, since it is up to the restaurant to enforce some kind of dress code.  Maybe I am making too big of a deal out of this, since how they were dressed had no effect on our dinner.  It is just a little pet peeve of mine. 


It's been a long time since I've seen a place enforce dress codes. Does the restaurant want a profitable bottom line, decorum that Miss Manners would approve of, or something in the middle...???
 
After living in tourist oriented places here in "the west", it's not unusual for folks to dress casual while on vacation, and most vacationers probably have limited room in luggage for spiffy clothes, especially for those that fly in...
 
I'm a casual guy that is also sometimes amazed at what people will wear (in many situations) but that's life in modern times where the "dumbing down" continues unabated...

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Re:L.A. Confidential - Sun, 01/12/14 4:13 PM
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BackRhodes,
one of the nice things about Philippe's is they don't make the sandwiches until you ar at the counter. You can ask for them dipped, double-dipped (both halves) or dry. I am sure they would be happy to give you a bowl or au jus on the side if you asked for it. 
 
Based upon what you said on another thread, I would stay away from Olvera Street for food. It's is basically tourist food and not what you or I seem to like and get for Mexican food. They probably do put sour cream on tacos at some of the places on Olvera Street. Lots of margaritas and hard shell tacos and combo plates made for American tastes. If you don't want Philippe's, walk past Philippe's parking lot and you'll come to CBS Seafood, an excellent Chinese restaurant that's the border of Chinatown. That might be a better choice. they have dim sum. It would hold it's own in SF's Chinatown. 
 
You are really getting me excited about my trip to Jax's in a few weeks---now I don't know whether to get the CFS or the French dip! 
 
You hit it right on the dress----I'm a casual guy too, but if I go to a decent restaurant I will dress appropriately. Same thing on a cruise---I always bring a tux. I think it's poor taste to go to a place like LG's dressed like a gangbanger. Dumbing down is right!

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Re:L.A. Confidential - Mon, 01/13/14 1:26 PM
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Just a note on the dress thing -- eruby has a great thread now on New Orleans, and had some fine food at Galatoire's. 
 
We were in New Orleans some months after Katrina, with much of the city still closed down or rebuilding.  We stayed on Bourbon Street, and one noontime were walking by Galatoire's and decided to go in.  My wife looked fine, as always, but I was wearing a golf shirt and jeans.  We knew they required coats there, and went to the maitre'd and said we wanted to respect their customs, but did we look okay to sit down.
 
They were VERY gracious, and seated us at a prominent table.  Almost without exception, the other customers were dressed in better attire, but we were made to feel nothing except very welcome.
 
And what a meal!!  And that bread!
 

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Re:L.A. Confidential - Tue, 01/14/14 5:24 PM
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I'm glad Glenn bumped this report!  I've been wanting to visit SoCal again for a while now, but postponed it because of a job this summer.  This report is one I'll be "mining" to help me refine my plans.

When you mentioned the "smooth" corned beef, it reminded me that most of the corned beef and pastrami out here are not brisket, as is prevalent back east.  Rather, I believe some major producer(s) use eye of round or some similar type cut, which makes for a very different product.  Maybe someone else can expand on this, but that's what I've seen the most of out here.  I'm not a fan of it.

The Pastrami at Langer's is made from the Navel, fantastic cut for the best Pastrami!They get it from Burbank's RC Fine Provisions, the same place I get my Pastrami, thru Sysco, who I hate doing business with.


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Re:L.A. Confidential - Tue, 01/14/14 5:29 PM
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love2bake


I'm glad Glenn bumped this report!  I've been wanting to visit SoCal again for a while now, but postponed it because of a job this summer.  This report is one I'll be "mining" to help me refine my plans.

When you mentioned the "smooth" corned beef, it reminded me that most of the corned beef and pastrami out here are not brisket, as is prevalent back east.  Rather, I believe some major producer(s) use eye of round or some similar type cut, which makes for a very different product.  Maybe someone else can expand on this, but that's what I've seen the most of out here.  I'm not a fan of it.

The Pastrami at Langer's is made from the Navel, fantastic cut for the best Pastrami!They get it from Burbank's RC Fine Provisions, the same place I get my Pastrami, thru Sysco, who I hate doing business with.

Honestly, I don't recall seeing it from anything except from brisket. Langers is a guilty pleasure I go for every once in a while. Katella Deli and Brent's are both definitely brisket. 

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Re:L.A. Confidential - Fri, 01/24/14 9:44 PM
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I'm looking at a booklet from Boar's Head deli products and they have a corned beef and pastrami from top round as well as what they describe as a first cut corned beef and pastrami brisket. I'm pretty sure our local Boar's Head sources (mainly Publix) sells only the top round version. I'll have to double check next time I'm in the store.

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