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chasendad
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Building another truck - Mon, 12/17/12 9:10 AM
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Well last year I bought an old AA cater truck and did a complete refurb on it and used it 3 times, then a couple guys came up and asked if I wanted to sell it and how much. The profit on it was really good so it was gone. So now I've decided to build another one but this time start with a blank canvas. I've been searching within a 500 mile radius and couldn't find a decent truck til last week I came across a 98Grumman olson van with a 15 1/2 ft box in really good shape.. The mileage is higher than i wanted but these thing are few and far between. I bought it and drove it 65 mph the 165 miles home and got over 10 miles per gallon, so I'd have to say it runs good..
My 1st day was spent cleaning and getting everything out from the uniform truck era. Power washed the interior and started on the roadside interior wall. Got the wind knocked out of my sail this morning when i found out I can't get the window /door  til late January as Challenger closes next week for 2 weeks.. Oh well I'll find something else to do to in till then..

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Re:Building another truck - Mon, 12/17/12 10:37 AM
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Looks awesome! I can't wait to see the progress. What are you looking to sell out of your food truck?

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Re:Building another truck - Mon, 12/17/12 4:04 PM
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Our last truck we sold Philly Cheesesteak and other family favorites..

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Re:Building another truck - Wed, 12/19/12 3:37 PM
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Haven't done any work on the truck this week, but
1.ordered the vent a hood ordered from a local sheet metal shop(1 week),
2. got the stainless for the wall behind the cooking equipment
3. got the white aluminum I plan o using for the ceiling and rest of the walls.
4. Going to order the window/door from Challenger tomorrow when they send me the paperwork to verify all sizing and configuration(5 weeks due to holiday closing).
5. Ordered a couple parts for the truck itself(jump seat, window cranks, bulkhead door parts).
6. ordered sinks
7. My wife is at the local equipment supplier right now negotiating pricing.. They are way higher than i can buy online with free shipping so she went to work on that today.
Still nailing down which equipment I want.. Thinking about a 24" oven/range vs 2- burner range top..
I've attached the layouts..
 

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Re:Building another truck - Wed, 12/19/12 3:51 PM
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I have a plan for this weekend, work on it at least 2 day maybe 3 and some Christmas afternooon
goal for the weekend.
1. build compartment for propane bottles as well as outside doorto acess bottles
2. installed aluminum on ceiling
3. install stainless on wall(just 2 sheets should go quick)
4. install rest of alum on roadside wall.
5. cut window/door opening so I can start of curb side finish out.
6. install a couple 4' light fixtures so I can work at night..
I'd like to do more but I will keep it simple on my wish list..
I already have the grey water and fresh water tanks so I could mount those also..
 
 

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Re:Building another truck - Wed, 12/19/12 4:50 PM
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No steam table?

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Re:Building another truck - Wed, 12/19/12 6:20 PM
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NO, we never used the last 2 we had... usually we cook to order or at big event we would pre cook and then cool it down and put in the prep station and just heat per order. While cooking Philly Cheese steak we found that the steam table would degrade the meat and vegetables if it set in there to long.. We can always get a countertop one if we decide we need it..

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Re:Building another truck - Wed, 12/19/12 7:58 PM
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Your sink looks like the size I'm looking for. Would you mind giving the purchasing and model details? Do you have a completion date for the outfit?

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Re:Building another truck - Sat, 12/22/12 8:03 AM
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curb--
 
16 Gauge Regency Three Compartment Stainless Steel Commercial Sink without Drainboards - 36" Long, 12" x 21" x 14" Compartments from Webstruant.com
4-6 weeks --i hope
 
 

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Re:Building another truck - Sat, 12/22/12 12:59 PM
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Is the gas tank filler under a floor panel behind the passenger seat?  Wondering if you plan on changing it?  That is how 79 is setup.
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Re:Building another truck - Sun, 12/23/12 12:03 AM
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no mine is in the middle of the floor at the back..
 
 

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Re:Building another truck - Sun, 12/23/12 12:03 AM
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no mine is in the middle of the floor at the back..
 
 

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Re:Building another truck - Sun, 12/23/12 12:08 AM
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complete1. build compartment for propane bottles as well as outside doorto acess bottles
complete2. installed aluminum on ceiling
complete3. install stainless on wall(just 2 sheets should go quick)
complete4. install rest of alum on roadside wall.
1st day of work went well as I got 4 things of 6 I wanted to do this weekend..
just neet to bend some aluminum and put trim at the bottom of the fllor and wall on roadside..

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Re:Building another truck - Sun, 12/23/12 12:10 AM
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The prpane storage compartment. The boss wants a piece of new diamond plate on the floor to make it look new..
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Re:Building another truck - Sun, 12/23/12 12:13 AM
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My help holding up one of the ceiling piese so I could screw it up.. All thr panel on wall and roof over lap each othe, 1/4" on the ceiling panels and 1" on wall panels

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Re:Building another truck - Sun, 12/23/12 6:07 PM
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Nice work, where is the generator going?

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Re:Building another truck - Sun, 12/23/12 9:44 PM
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I'm going to build and rack that slides into the back to hold the generator..
 

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Re:Building another truck - Mon, 12/24/12 11:10 AM
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 Is that 40lb lp tanks shown in the pic?       This came up in another thread, from your layout above you have:


36” flat top    84000 btu
12” –2 burner    54000 btu
40 lb Fryer      90000 btu


Total         228000 btu      +/-

Assuming you do not use more than 50% at any one time LP required would be about 114,000 btu.   … Two 40’s (vapor tanks) manifold together will supply about 60,000 btu (40 deg F) to 80,000 btu (60 deg F).

Just guessing and working numbers  … Looks like you need to set a manifold pressure to abt 11 or 12 wc; then set a low pressure regulator at each piece.    Flat top 65% (6.5 wc); 2 burner range 50% ( 5 wc); and fryer 75% or 80% (7.5 –8 wc)   … This will be about:

36” flat top    54000 btu      …..    1 burner @ 100% & 1 burner @ 50% => 27000 btu
12” –2 burner    27000 btu  …..    1 burner @ 100%   => 13000 btu
40 lb Fryer      68000 btu    …..      (80k –27k-13k)      => 40000 btu   (abt  59% on)


Total         149000 btu      +/-       …..    total  => 80,000 btu  ????
The low pressure regulators can then be adjusted to find the setting that works best with all the equipment & tanks.

I believe two 100 lb tanks would be better for your setup.

Also, I don’t see any air vents in the LP compartment.   You need this for safety and the airflow is what heats the tanks to make vapor.   Without the vent, the tanks will cool the compartment and slow down vapor production.

Just my 2 cents for what it's worth.
 
 
 
 
 
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Re:Building another truck - Mon, 12/24/12 8:03 PM
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edwmax, thanks for the LP info. I was going to ask about propane regulators tonight..
 

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Re:Building another truck - Mon, 12/24/12 8:10 PM
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Well had another good day working on the truck. Got the window rough opening cut.
got the bulkhead wall put in on the curbside.
Got all the aluminum put on the walls.  Just need to cut 100' of aluminum strips and bend to trim out the floor and ceiling..
 

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Re:Building another truck - Mon, 12/24/12 8:13 PM
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Nice work. I assume that you are surface mounting your electrical, is that required in your area?

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Re:Building another truck - Tue, 12/25/12 8:41 AM
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It's not required but a lot easier for me. It will have 6 electrical plugs lights and exhaust fans.

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Re:Building another truck - Thu, 12/27/12 9:27 PM
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Got the sink delivered today and ready to install sunday, cut and bent 100' of aluminum strips for trim out.
Plan to work Sunday -Tuesday and get the trim done, sinks installed and plumbed and start the electrical.

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Re:Building another truck - Fri, 12/28/12 11:04 AM
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What is the "white" aluminum you are using?  I've heard a couple mentions of it on this forum but not sure exactly what is is, alloy, thickness etc.  Build is looking good, Thanks

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Re:Building another truck - Fri, 12/28/12 6:45 PM
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The white is .040 thik and alot light than stainless steel.. I buy it as sign material in 4x8, 4x10 or 5x10 sheets.
I think it will be easier to clen and make the truck brighter inside than stainless or mill finish aluminum.. You can also get it from places that build Racecars.. I get it for $65-80.00 per sheet depending on sheet size..

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Re:Building another truck - Mon, 12/31/12 7:22 PM
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Got to work in a rain and cold today, Got the sinks set in place and Hot water heater mounted, Plumber is supposed to do the plumbing on wednesday.
Got the breaker box installed as well boxes and conduit installed and  wire pulled.
Plan for tomorrow is to finish electrical except for exhaust fans which I cant install until I get the hood in(hopefullt it will be ready this week)
Heres a couple pictures of rough electrical..
 

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Re:Building another truck - Tue, 01/1/13 5:58 PM
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Got all the electrical in today except for the shore cord(forgot to buy material)
got the outside lights installed, built s fram to bolt the grey water tank to but had no abs cement to put the fitting in thr tank or it would be installed.. here a couple more pices of the build, outside light, tand frame and completed electrical..

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Re:Building another truck - Wed, 01/2/13 7:25 PM
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Plumber showed up to only 30 minutes late (lol) , I didn;t figure him to even show up since he was working for free...The restrauant supply showed up with the equipment this morning also and even uncrated the stuff and hauled off the boxes..
Ventahood is supposed to be ready late friday, Hopefully as its what I need to install next..

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Re:Building another truck - Thu, 01/3/13 8:17 AM
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Rick,
A couple of questions:
Why did you decide to overlap your wall coverings instead of butting them together?
Is that a Shurflo demand pump? If so what model did you use?
Why the faucet under the sink? To drain the lines? Or to fill the tank?
I assume it never freezes (in Texas) where you live?
thanks
Jack
 

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Re:Building another truck - Thu, 01/3/13 9:57 AM
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Why did you decide to overlap your wall coverings instead of butting them together?
I figured they would lay together better overlapped than butted and they did.

Is that a Shurflo demand pump? If so what model did you use?
Yes,  115volt   model 2088-492-444
Yes it i Why the faucet under the sink? To drain the lines? Or to fill the tank?
The city of Dallas requires you to have a hose to wash out the inside of the truck so I had them put the hose bib in.

I assume it never freezes (in Texas) where you live? 
lol... it only got to 40 yesterday... yes it freezes.

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Re:Building another truck - Mon, 01/14/13 5:21 PM
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Well after 3 weekends of progress I was brought to a halt for 10 days by a virus that refused to let me do anything but run fever and cough... On a good note I have received all my shelving and also the vent-a-hood and fans. I wont be able to work on it this weekend except maybe sunday afternoon because of previous commitments. I need to bust me ass for the next week and weekend as I have an HD inspection on the 29th of the month.. Other than install the vent and the window which wont be here till the 25th everything else just goes against the wall and needs attached...

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Re:Building another truck - Mon, 01/14/13 7:26 PM
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looking good.
that is what i want to do on my build.
i have a box on the side with doors to put the generator in.
but iwant to be able to slide it and out of the box for maintainance.
can't wait to see how you do it. handy i am not. i did some looking on line.
no luck so far. so i want to thank you in advance for that.

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Re:Building another truck - Tue, 01/15/13 9:05 AM
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My generator is going to be on the back of the truck so I can take it off when not needed. To make your generator slide you need these.
http://www.amazon.com/Dra...Capacity/dp/B0009ODZMM
I had them on a race trailer and the worked great..

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Re:Building another truck - Tue, 01/15/13 9:36 AM
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chasendad


My generator is going to be on the back of the truck so I can take it off when not needed. To make your generator slide you need these.
http://www.amazon.com/Dra...Capacity/dp/B0009ODZMM
I had them on a race trailer and the worked great..

 
That's a great tip thanks. But now I'm wondering why your using a temp mount for your generator
rather than an under carriage permanent mount using the sliders?
thanks
jack

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Re:Building another truck - Tue, 01/15/13 9:57 AM
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chasendad


My generator is going to be on the back of the truck so I can take it off when not needed. To make your generator slide you need these.
http://www.amazon.com/Dra...Capacity/dp/B0009ODZMM
I had them on a race trailer and the worked great..

 
Nice, I was searching for a set that could take 500lbs for my battery bank but could not find a cheap set. Thanks for the link.

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Re:Building another truck - Tue, 01/15/13 11:39 AM
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I hate loud generators and refuse to use them,
I will use 2 honda eu3000 generators(since I already own 2) and can parrallel them to make a quiet 6000 with 50 amp service.
most of our days we will setup in the local food parks and wont need the generator since they have power.
I have a spot picked out on the truck if I come across a 6000 onan for cheap but right now I will got with the 2 hondas..
 
 

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Re:Building another truck - Mon, 01/21/13 9:21 AM
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Got to work on the truck some yesterday, The vent-a -hood wasn't very cooperative but got it up. I will have to make a few pieces different to hold the filters since i changed and went with the fans through the side wall.. The stainless on the hood is a lot tougher then the wall stainless which I was able to cut with a skill saw. The hood on the other hand had to get the air cut off wheel and took a while.. The walls a little thicker than the fan vents so I will have to bend some aluminum and trim out the outside.. Also stud placement of the wall made it so the vents couldn't be centered..

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Re:Building another truck - Mon, 01/21/13 10:12 AM
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CD,
Where are you going to get the air your blowing out while running your exhaust fans?
LOL Make up air? How much air will your exhaust fans move per minute?
jack

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Re:Building another truck - Mon, 01/21/13 2:48 PM
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not sure about how much air they move, They are the same fan Reese77 put in his truck,
Picked up 4 filters today at Rest. depot now just have to build the lips to hold them ,hopefully start on that tomorrow night..
 

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Re:Building another truck - Tue, 01/22/13 9:20 PM
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Filters mounted to the ventahood, next time I will buy the hood ready to go..Going to hookup the fans tomorrow and trim out the top edge and hopefully it will be ready to exhaust air... Will replace the screws with pop rivets.


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Re:Building another truck - Wed, 01/23/13 10:54 PM
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Vent a hood complete and trimmed out, wired and ready..


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Re:Building another truck - Wed, 01/23/13 11:30 PM
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nice job. How did you attach to the ceiling?

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Re:Building another truck - Thu, 01/24/13 9:01 AM
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Nice job and good move trimming out the space between the ceiling and hood top. Often builders have left that area open not thinking about how much gunk collects up there with no way to clean it.

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Re:Building another truck - Thu, 01/24/13 9:05 AM
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Reese77--There are 3- 29" long 2" square tubing attached to the roof of the truck into the joist and then I attached the hood to the tubing, also screwed to the back wall many times and the time is .063 Alum which is riveted to the hood and then screed through the ceiling. Very sturdy and no movement whatsoever..
 

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Re:Building another truck - Sun, 01/27/13 7:42 PM
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Got a Full day of work done today,
 Got the electrical completed.
grey water tank installed and plumbed
water tank installed- Plumber coming tuesday to complete pluming line from/to tank
completed the trim on interior and caulked edges.
installed propane regulator and plumbed the equipment except fryer
installed drying rack over sink

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Re:Building another truck - Sun, 01/27/13 7:44 PM
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Added some coat hooks in the driver area also..

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Re:Building another truck - Sun, 01/27/13 7:52 PM
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Well the Service window from Challenger Door has not arrived and I cannot find out when I will get it. I've called and left messages, emailed, called talked to the recptionist and asked if she could get me a del. date so I've had to cancel my HD appointment I had for this week..
 
 

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Re:Building another truck - Sun, 01/27/13 7:58 PM
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Electrical pictures..
 


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Re:Building another truck - Tue, 01/29/13 8:27 AM
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Finally got in touch with Challenger Door yesterday and my door was complete and shipping yesterday.
Should have it by the weekend and I can get it installed and finish up the truck...
 

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Re:Building another truck - Wed, 01/30/13 9:50 PM
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Well the window showed up today and will install it saturday morning.
plumber finished the pluming to tank today but I found some leaks at the faucet so he's got to come back friday..
 

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Re:Building another truck - Sat, 02/2/13 9:49 PM
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Got the equipment installed except the refrigerator that the door opens the wrong way.. New one should be here next week withe a lfet hand side swing frig.
all the gas lines checked with no leaks. Changed all the orfices on the flattop and burner for lp..
Installed the service window and trimmed out,.
Interior of truck is complete except for the water leak which the plumber didnt make it yesterday or today to fix it..
 
Will post pictures .

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Re:Building another truck - Sat, 02/2/13 10:01 PM
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The door from Challenger was simple to install, 10 minutes from test fit to completed install.
Also above is the cover I made for the fryer when its not in use..

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Re:Building another truck - Sat, 02/2/13 10:03 PM
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Heres a picture of the inside trim on the winow..


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Re:Building another truck - Sun, 02/3/13 10:05 AM
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Nice!

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Re:Building another truck - Sun, 02/3/13 10:51 AM
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You do fast and great looking work. I like the cover for the fryer. Good job.
What are the dimensions on your window it looks like it might be an 8 footer,
and ball park what you spent  with Challenger without shipping and what
the shipping ran if I'm not being to nosy.
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Re:Building another truck - Sun, 02/3/13 8:05 PM
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3'x6' window.. $1120.00 to the door... door was $9 some thing hundred..$150.00 shipping , $40.00 crating..
took 6 weeks to get with the Chrtistmas 2 week shut down...
Today, I fixed the water leak myself, ended up a problem with the fitting that hold the faucet in and I had another set of a different brand so Plumings done now..
Everything is done excent cleaning it good for the tuesday inspection and an overflow tube I forgot on the water tank..
Today I built the generator mount, just have to put so hooks on it to strap generator down with..Installed a quick disconnect plug on the back of the truck
Added a couple shelves inside and then trimmed out the exhaust fans and put built a cover to help keep water out..
 
 

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