Modern Medicine and Sports: Citius, Altius, Fortius

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MetroplexJim
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Modern Medicine and Sports: Citius, Altius, Fortius - Sat, 01/19/13 8:50 PM
Citius, Altius, Fortius ... is the motto of the OlympicTM Games: faster, higher, stronger.
 
We humans differ from the animal due to our opposable thumbs, self-awareness, and capacity to reason in the abstract.  Using these capacities we, as a race, have developed a myriad of ways to improve ourselves through modern medicine, broadly defined.
 
Athletes today routinely buy "Ted Williams' 20/10 eyes" for five grand! 
 
In addition to truly miraculous 'minimally invasive' orthopedic procedures (e.g., Adrian Peterson), elite athletes all have trainers, sports psychologists, nutritionists, 21st. Century equipment, etc.  Psychotropic pharmaceutics "legally" treat depression, ADHD, and a range of anxiety disorders.  Even those who have unfortunate personal issues (e.g., Josh Hamilton) even get a "body man" to keep them straight.  Training at high altitude is legal "blood doping", etc.
 
Yes, the non-prescription use of anabolic steroids is 'against the law' - and so is the possession and use of cannabis.  But, when Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens (et al.) were playing it was not against the Rules of MLB.  Even were I to concede to the 'politically correct':  if the pre-steroid Bonds and Clemens are not HOF's, then that honor has no meaning.
 
I will say it simply:  after LASIKTM, Barry Bonds put the sweet spot on the ball better than any other baseball player I have ever seen.  He broke the one record that had truly had been seen as unbreakable:  Ruth's single season slugging average of .847.  He set a record that will NEVER be broken:  120 intentional walks in 2004.  Never was a batter so feared.  On balance I believe that was due more to his "buying Ted Williams' eyes" more than "the clear".
 
Bottom line:  how is LASIKTM so different from "the clear" (which I, at 65 by Rx, apply to myself after showering) and which MLB did not at that time forbid to Bonds and Clemens?
 
Can anyone imagine what Babe Ruth could have achieved with an agent/manager, trainers, sports psychologists, nutritionists, the present medical arts, fitness equipment, etc.?  There is absolutely no doubt that he was the "best that ever was and the best that ever will be".

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Re:Modern Medicine and Sports: Citius, Altius, Fortius - Sun, 01/20/13 12:58 PM
Ruth had a very strict training regimine, Hot Dogs, Beer, Women, lots of all, in no paticular order!

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Re:Modern Medicine and Sports: Citius, Altius, Fortius - Sun, 01/20/13 7:07 PM
Just to take their "cultural temperature" and know to whom I am "professing" economics, I give each new batch of students 50 random "famous" names to identify:  e.g., Charles Lindbergh, Paul McCartney, Franklin Roosevelt, Cristina Aguilera, O.J. Simpson, Hillary Clinton, Jonas Salk, Barack Obama, etc.
 
It never ceases to amaze me that Babe Ruth is always among the top three - even among females and immigrants!
 
Few know who Mick Jagger is or what he did/does.  Maybe 1 out of 50 has ever heard of Jonas Salk. 

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Re:Modern Medicine and Sports: Citius, Altius, Fortius - Sun, 01/20/13 7:10 PM
Wasn't Mick an Economics major? 

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Re:Modern Medicine and Sports: Citius, Altius, Fortius - Sun, 01/20/13 8:02 PM
1bbqboy


Wasn't Mick an Economics major? 

 
Yes! 
Was Jonas Salk one of the Jonas brothers?

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Re:Modern Medicine and Sports: Citius, Altius, Fortius - Sun, 01/20/13 9:37 PM
1bbqboy


Wasn't Mick an Economics major? 

 
I thought he was an Accounting student at the London School of Economics.   
<message edited by plb on Sun, 01/20/13 9:49 PM>

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Re:Modern Medicine and Sports: Citius, Altius, Fortius - Mon, 01/21/13 2:12 PM
plb


1bbqboy


Wasn't Mick an Economics major? 


I thought he was an Accounting student at the London School of Economics.   

I would have thought he was developing new struts for the Ministry of Silly Walks.

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Re:Modern Medicine and Sports: Citius, Altius, Fortius - Mon, 01/21/13 2:36 PM
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plb


1bbqboy


Wasn't Mick an Economics major? 


I thought he was an Accounting student at the London School of Economics.   

I would have thought he was developing new struts for the Ministry of Silly Walks.

He's worth 1/3 billion.  Maybe he's thinking of opening a hot dog cart.

MetroplexJim
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Re:Modern Medicine and Sports: Citius, Altius, Fortius - Sun, 06/23/13 2:10 PM
1bbqboy


SeamusD


plb


1bbqboy


Wasn't Mick an Economics major? 


I thought he was an Accounting student at the London School of Economics.   

I would have thought he was developing new struts for the Ministry of Silly Walks.

He's worth 1/3 billion.  Maybe he's thinking of opening a hot dog cart.


OMG, he's still on the stage past 70!
 
(BTW: the London School of Economics - like the New School for Social Research in NYC - no longer produce economists).

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Re:Modern Medicine and Sports: Citius, Altius, Fortius - Mon, 06/24/13 1:25 AM
1bbqboy


Wasn't Mick an Economics major? 

Nope, BUT he did invent a new drink---the Jaggermeister!

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Re:Modern Medicine and Sports: Citius, Altius, Fortius - Thu, 06/27/13 5:00 PM
Not to be a "grump", but I posted this thread before any news of the impending BioGenesis "scandal" came out - asking what the difference is between "buying Ted Williams' eyes" and advantaging oneself with 21st. Century pharma.
 
 

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Re:Modern Medicine and Sports: Citius, Altius, Fortius - Thu, 06/27/13 5:32 PM
Chimps have opposing thumbs. Now it is the ability to throw. Chimps can't throw a 90 mph fastball, i.e. spears and hunt like humans.
 
 

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Re:Modern Medicine and Sports: Citius, Altius, Fortius - Thu, 06/27/13 7:41 PM
Davydd


Chimps have opposing thumbs. Now it is the ability to throw. Chimps can't throw a 90 mph fastball, i.e. spears and hunt like humans.




So, why don't I see one starting for the Mets?