I believe in this case, the chili dog has no beans in it.
Does anyone have any definitive answers on this.
Does a chili dog have tex mex seasonings.
The answer is largely based on the region of the country you're from. Most food historians credit Jackson, Michigan as the founding place for the coney dog back in the late 1930's early 40's. Detroit, New York, and a couple of other cities dispute this. That being said even coneys in Michigan vary from city to city. Jackson's coney islands all generally use a beef heart and beef suet grind that is seasoned with Greek, Hungarian, Macedonian, or some other seasoning from that ethnic background. That sauce then simmers in a pot. The finished product looks a little like taco meat but tastes very different. The heart gives this sauce a distinct tangy flavor. It is key at most coney islands in Michigan that high quality hot dogs such as Koegels, Kowalski, Dearborn, or something of that nature are used and that is no different in Jackson. You'll never see a respectable coney island boiling a hot dog or using Oscar Meyer, Eckrich, or any other inferior brand. They will generally be cooked on a flat iron grill. Once the sauce is applied to the hot dog a small amount of mustard is put on it and then it is topped with diced or finely chopped onion. These coneys are very filling. The average person isn't going to eat many more than 2 or 3 due to the thickness of the sauce in fact my wife usually can't even eat one.
The Detroit and New York style ones are generally a runnier coney sauce base. They don't use the beef heart but they do season the sauce with similiar spices used in Jackson coneys. They also generally use high quality hot dogs and top their coneys the same way. The taste is much different because the texture of the sauce is more like a liquid and the absence of the heart doesn't give it the same tang. Inside Michigan there is a huge debate about Detroit style vs. Jackson and Flint style coneys. Most people from Jackson, Hillsdale, Battle Creek, etc... would say a Detroit coney is not a coney but a chili dog because of it's runny base while most in Detroit and the surrounding suburbs often don't care for the Jackson or Flint style ones because the sauce's texture is more like ground beef. (Flint usually uses seasoned ground beef with no heart but the texture is still very similiar to a Jackson style with the absence of the beef heart tang.)
The rest of the country west of the midwest and south of New York generally consider coney and chili dogs to be the same from the coney places I've been. Cincinatti has a great chili sauce for their hot dogs but it is not a coney in my opinion. Texas also has a unique style I've tasted but I also consider that a chili dog, although a very spicy one. Many other places are just clueless and think opening a can of chili and putting it on a hot dog is a coney. Don't get me wrong chili cheese dogs are good but they're very different from a coney dog.
In the end it's pretty much dependant on what part of the country you're from. Most coney maniacs do however consider a coney to be a hot dog, with a Greek style seasoned sauce abesent of beans, with mustard, and onion. Any other additional toppings alters the coney and thus makes it something else. (ketchup, cheese, tomatoes, lettuce, etc...)
I can't provide a link but if you google Todoroff's coney island you could order some frozen Jackson style sauce and if you google National coney island you could order some Detroit style coney sauce to see what I'm talking about. The meat needs to thaw out in the fridge overnight and then simmer in a covered pot on the stove for best flavor results. Heating straight from it's frozen state takes away flavor in my opinion. Remember to add the mustard and diced onion once the coney sauce has been applied to the hot dog. Then you could also just prepare a can of your favorite chili and put it on a hot dog to compare that as well. Actually the famous Cincinatti chili sauce as well as many others are available in cans. You will notice a distinct difference between all three. Hope that helps. As you can see I love coneys. Jackson style are my favorite. I also love Chicago style hotdogs. Unfortunately I don't eat many anymore as I've been much more health conscious lately but once and awhile it's all good to grab a coney.
post edited by Jamerican28 - 2013/09/20 12:47:04