Shoneys-why are so many locations closing up?

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doulasc
Junior Burger
2013/01/29 21:31:36
In the early 1990s You could find Shoneys all over Florida,Only two remain.On their facebook page all I hear  is people asking why locations closed up. Whats going on with Shoneys and do they still have their Shoneys Inn motel chain? Can anoyone fill me in. Its everywhere they are closing restaurants.
fam5will
Junior Burger
Re:Shoneys-why are so many locations closing up? 2013/01/29 21:49:02
I haven't eaten at a Shoneys in years. The last time I ate in one, the food was inedible, the restaurant was filthy, and service was non-existent. This was in a Shoney's located in Nashville, where their corporate offices are located. If a "hometown" location was that bad, I shudder to think what the conditions might have been in other areas. I've had no desire to visit a Shoney's since. 

That said, it is my understanding that Shoney's has a new CEO, and he is making efforts to rebuild the brand. If that is so, he has his work cut out for him. 
wanderingjew
Sirloin
Re:Shoneys-why are so many locations closing up? 2013/01/29 21:50:56
doulasc,
 
I'm just wondering why you constantly choose to discuss fast food and chain restaurants in the wrong forum?
cathyftr
Hamburger
Re:Shoneys-why are so many locations closing up? 2013/01/30 11:11:24
fam5will

I haven't eaten at a Shoneys in years. The last time I ate in one, the food was inedible, the restaurant was filthy, and service was non-existent. This was in a Shoney's located in Nashville, where their corporate offices are located. If a "hometown" location was that bad, I shudder to think what the conditions might have been in other areas. I've had no desire to visit a Shoney's since. 

That said, it is my understanding that Shoney's has a new CEO, and he is making efforts to rebuild the brand. If that is so, he has his work cut out for him. 

 
The last time I had eaten at a Shoney's was back in 2006 in Martinsburg, West Virginia thanks to winning a free dinner coupon on local WLTF "Lite 97.5" radio....unfortunately I had experience pretty much the same thing as you did. Bad food, dirty restaurant, bad customer service.  Actually for a time I had refused to listen to WLTF only because of my dinner at Shoney's/ It really was that bad.
 
Oddly enough the Shoney's in nearby Hagerstown, MD and Winchester, VA ( recently closed ) weren't that bad the few times I had ate there over the years..but that one in Martinsbug.
 
Winchester, VA...what really hurt the Shoney's restaurant there was the Shoney's Inn motel next door. Even though the two weren't related a lot of folks assumed they were ( for starters the logo was the about the same ).  What was once a fine motel in the 80's and 90's ( actors Paul Newman and Tom Cruise had stayed there in the 80's when a they attended functions at Summit Point Race Track in nearby West Virginia ), well by 2000s the place wasn't fit for rodents much less people. Bed bugs, dead rats in the indoor pool, broken vending machines, owners who didn't care, come to think of it I believe there was even a murder or two in that motel.  Anyway way too many locals assumed that since the Shoney's Inn was bad then Shoney's the restaurant next door had to be just as bad as well so many stayed away. 
 
The Shoney's Inn in Winchester is now America's Best Value Inn or something like that. Not sure what the conditions of that place is now.
felix4067
Filet Mignon
Re:Shoneys-why are so many locations closing up? 2013/01/30 12:13:46
I went to one in the early 1990's, and it was awful. Just as described...dirty, bad service, bad food, and in general left me feeling like maybe I should visit the doctor for some shots. I'm only surprised that they're just now getting around to closing a bunch of them; I had assumed they'd long since gone away because you can only fail so many health department inspections in a row before someone pulls your business license.
ann peeples
Sirloin
Re:Shoneys-why are so many locations closing up? 2013/01/30 13:43:25
Because they suck-food was horrible. Ate there once and never went back.
kland01s
Filet Mignon
Re:Shoneys-why are so many locations closing up? 2013/01/30 17:16:49
Went to one once somewhere between Chicago and B-ham Alabama where we stayed overnight. There was nothing else around the area except a gas station and the hotel we stayed at. That was 12 years ago.... I guess the hotel/motel didn't have free breakfast. Pretty forgettable.
Louis
Double Cheeseburger
Re:Shoneys-why are so many locations closing up? 2013/01/30 19:30:56
Back in the early 1980s, the one here was pretty good.  Then it gradually went down quality hill.  It eventually hit rock bottom by the mid-1990s and I stayed away.  I went there recently after a five-year absence, and the food had improved somewhat.  The ground round sirloin was good enough that I came back for it the following week.  Maybe the new CEO can work a miracle, but he's got his work cut out for him.  As is the case with all chains, it's the manager of the individual unit (and corporate support) that make or break these places.  A single manager can make all the difference in the world; he's either dedicated to his job, or he's just there for a paycheck.
 
post edited by Louis - 2013/01/30 19:32:01
RKB
Cheeseburger
Re:Shoneys-why are so many locations closing up? 2013/01/31 17:21:09
ann peeples

Because they suck-food was horrible. Ate there once and never went back.

+1. I totally agree.

Michael Hoffman
Double-chop Porterhouse
Re:Shoneys-why are so many locations closing up? 2013/01/31 17:31:33
Shoney's used to be pretty darned good. But that was back when Alex Shoenbaum was running the company he founded in Charleston, West Virginia. I loved the Shoneyburger, and as much as I hate to admit it, the fudge cake was fabulous. Oh, and so was the strawberry pie.
kland01s
Filet Mignon
Re:Shoneys-why are so many locations closing up? 2013/01/31 17:46:07
We had one years ago in far west Chicago land. It didn't last long and we only went there for breakfast a few times. Now we just got a Golden Corral. Sort of the same. We tried it right after they opened and found it dismal. Too many local mom and pops yet in this area  that are good if not great!
Adjudicator
Sirloin
Re:Shoneys-why are so many locations closing up? 2013/01/31 18:52:17
Probably because they are devoting more time & $$$ to Capt. D's, their most sucessful chain.
MetroplexJim
Filet Mignon
Re:Shoneys-why are so many locations closing up? 2013/02/01 07:30:16
Did they dump Big Boy and the gelatinous 'strawberry pie'?
ann peeples
Sirloin
Re:Shoneys-why are so many locations closing up? 2013/02/01 09:03:51
Funny you should mention Big Boy, Jim. Thats exactly what the local owners did-dumped Big Boy for Shoney's. Big mistake.
michaelcarraher
Cheeseburger
Re:Shoneys-why are so many locations closing up? 2013/02/02 19:59:07
Shoney's had the Big Boy franchise for several Southern states and then decided to go on their own.  From the comments here, sounds like it was a mistake. 
 
The market seems to have moved away from the coffee shop chains that once dominated the low-end the restaurant biz: Big Boy (including or not including Shoney's), HoJo's, Denny's, Sambo's. ...
All are barely limping along or dead in the water. 
Same for cafeterias.
Fast food took over on the bottom and theme chains took over the next rung up.  Times change.
 
HollyDolly
Double Chili Cheeseburger
Re:Shoneys-why are so many locations closing up? 2013/02/04 15:44:37
Don't have any idea. There is one on Interstate 35 North in the Windcrest area,a suburb of San Antonio and it's right next door to Red lobster.Haven't eaten there in years. Might have to try it sometime before it too goes.
 
HollyDolly
Double Chili Cheeseburger
Re:Shoneys-why are so many locations closing up? 2013/02/04 15:48:46
Only cafeterias around here are Luby's a San Antonio chain.HOJO is long gone from here as is Sambo's. There are a couple of Denny's one in Schertz and one in Live Oak but the one on Broadway across from the University of the Incarnate Word in Alamo Heights is gone.Thought that was an odd location given to the fact the town is a ritzy suburb of San Antonio built back in the 1900s. However, the McDonald's there always seem to do a lot of business.
CajunKing
Sirloin
Re:Shoneys-why are so many locations closing up? 2013/02/07 20:30:46
There are sevral Shoney's here in the Nashville TN area and all are packed for the early bird special times.  Other than that somewhat quiet.
airlineguy99
Junior Burger
Re:Shoneys-why are so many locations closing up? 2013/02/20 19:02:30
The Shoney's in Grayson, KY  just recently closed...   It had been going downhill for years...
Ice Cream Man
Double Chili Cheeseburger
Re:Shoneys-why are so many locations closing up? 2013/02/22 16:29:39
Last week I had a Cheese Steak at Shoney's in Nashville, greasy and over cooked.
Michael Hoffman
Double-chop Porterhouse
Re:Shoneys-why are so many locations closing up? 2013/02/22 16:46:10
You were in NASHVILLE and went to a Shoney's? Why in the world would you do that?
Ice Cream Man
Double Chili Cheeseburger
Re:Shoneys-why are so many locations closing up? 2013/02/22 23:37:00
Because by the time you get out of the Opry it's 10:30.
Also I like to try all the chains you have that we don't.
Best lunch road food or not was a Cheese steak at Pyramids in the Opry Mills Food Court. We ate half chains and half road food for 18 days. Also I didn't see this tread before we went or I would have chose a different fast food place. 
wanderingjew
Sirloin
Re:Shoneys-why are so many locations closing up? 2013/02/23 11:04:33
Ice Cream Man

Because by the time you get out of the Opry it's 10:30.
Also I like to try all the chains you have that we don't.
Best lunch road food or not was a Cheese steak at Pyramids in the Opry Mills Food Court. We ate half chains and half road food for 18 days. Also I didn't see this tread before we went or I would have chose a different fast food place. 

 
Wow........I'm just glad I never go to chains. That's what Roadfood is all about.
Ice Cream Man
Double Chili Cheeseburger
Re:Shoneys-why are so many locations closing up? 2013/02/23 14:21:28
Well maybe, but you still only have a 50/50 chance of getting good food. Most think quantity makes it good or cover it in gravy because otherwise it's so dried out it would choke you. Most True road food seems to close at 8pm.
Poverty Pete
Double Chili Cheeseburger
Re:Shoneys-why are so many locations closing up? 2013/02/23 14:50:57
I know of Roadfood places that are only open three hours a day (Isaiah's in Montgomery)  and I  know places that are open 24-7 (Hermitage Cafe in Nashville.)
wanderingjew
Sirloin
Re:Shoneys-why are so many locations closing up? 2013/02/23 14:55:42
Ice Cream Man

Well maybe, but you still only have a 50/50 chance of getting good food. Most think quantity makes it good or cover it in gravy because otherwise it's so dried out it would choke you. Most True road food seems to close at 8pm.

 
Well, I guess if youlhave an extremely limited definition of roadfood as a greasy spoon on the wrong side of the tracks then you are correct.
 
There are some great taverns, country inns, steakhouses,  etc that are open well past 8pm....

I've had probably about a 90% success rate in finding roadfood that is above average or better by doing my own research...
 
even this place is classic Roadfood...
Michael Hoffman
Double-chop Porterhouse
Re:Shoneys-why are so many locations closing up? 2013/02/23 15:10:59
I haven't eaten at Joe's Stone Crab since the late '60s or early '70s. I wish I hadn't lost their mustard sauce recipe.
Ice Cream Man
Double Chili Cheeseburger
Re:Shoneys-why are so many locations closing up? 2013/02/24 00:32:06
Well good for you, it was late and we were hungry, no time to do research no intention of going down town in a strange city to see if one or the bars had good food or good fights. Most Mom & Pops are in bed.
wanderingjew
Sirloin
Re:Shoneys-why are so many locations closing up? 2013/02/24 09:01:49
Ice Cream Man

Well good for you, it was late and we were hungry, no time to do research no intention of going down town in a strange city to see if one or the bars had good food or good fights.

 
Well, that's really a shame, I guess thats what separates posters from Roadfooders
 
Ice Cream Man
 
 Most Mom & Pops are in bed. 

 
Perhaps some, but certainly not most....There are plenty of great local restaurants in my neck of the woods that are open well past 8pm
Ice Cream Man
Double Chili Cheeseburger
Re:Shoneys-why are so many locations closing up? 2013/02/24 09:28:16
Ok Mr. road food, I'll leave you to your ignorance.
Poverty Pete
Double Chili Cheeseburger
Re:Shoneys-why are so many locations closing up? 2013/02/24 10:12:30
Calling wanderingjew ignorant is just, well, ignorant.
Michael Hoffman
Double-chop Porterhouse
Re:Shoneys-why are so many locations closing up? 2013/02/24 10:36:25
It's not even that smart.
felix4067
Filet Mignon
Re:Shoneys-why are so many locations closing up? 2013/02/24 12:01:32
At risk of poking the bear, he was pretty abrasive and judgmental in this instance. I will never understand those who come into the Fast Food Franchises & Non-Roadfood Chains forum and pass judgment on those who eat there on occasion. If the concept of something non-Roadfood offends the very fiber of your being, hide the forum and don't read things in it. I often end up eating at a chain for the very reasons Ice Cream Man states...no time to do research, and unsure of the city where I am, which makes me unwilling to risk going somewhere I could get in trouble just because I wanted a burger that didn't come from a chain. Neighbourhoods, especially those around major attractions that bring in a ton of people who aren't from the city, can go from good to bad simply by crossing a street, and it's not worth the risk sometimes.
post edited by felix4067 - 2013/02/24 12:04:17
pnwchef
Double Chili Cheeseburger
Re:Shoneys-why are so many locations closing up? 2013/02/24 12:54:19
Just because I don't agree with something, doesn't make it wrong.....
wanderingjew
Sirloin
Re:Shoneys-why are so many locations closing up? 2013/02/24 14:33:43
Felix,4067
 
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but if I recall,you are the same person who called those that travel and  do trip reports "braggarts" "show offs" and "attention getters", is that correct?
 
Like I said before, there are "posters" and "roadfooders".....

Not once was I abrasive or judgemental. Just the opposite, if anyone was rude, abrasive, insulting and obnoxious it was Ice Cream Man.
 
Thanks PP and MH for backing me up.
 
1bbqboy
Filet Mignon
Re:Shoneys-why are so many locations closing up? 2013/02/24 15:01:09
Maybe Back Rhodes and ICM are brothers.
felix4067
Filet Mignon
Re:Shoneys-why are so many locations closing up? 2013/02/24 16:16:24
wanderingjew

Felix,4067

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but if I recall,you are the same person who called those that travel and  do trip reports "braggarts" "show offs" and "attention getters", is that correct?

Like I said before, there are "posters" and "roadfooders".....

Not once was I abrasive or judgemental. Just the opposite, if anyone was rude, abrasive, insulting and obnoxious it was Ice Cream Man.

Thanks PP and MH for backing me up.


You are quite wrong. I have no idea who might have said that, but it certainly wasn't me.