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Rick513

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need help with cart need nsf speci Sat, 02/9/13 12:40 AM (permalink)
I have cart that has been built by someone and ilm trying pass the inspection can someone help what should I do I only have trailer title
 
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    jcheese

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    Re:need help with cart need nsf speci Sat, 02/9/13 11:35 AM (permalink)
    Ask your Health Dept.
     
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      bellehill

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      Re:need help with cart need nsf speci Sat, 02/9/13 1:27 PM (permalink)
      have you ran it thru yet.
       
       
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        Rick513

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        Re:need help with cart need nsf speci Sat, 02/9/13 1:45 PM (permalink)
        I need a manufacturer specif sheet showing nsf certifcation for equip and finisheds for floor and wall and ceiling. But its a hotdog cart and I want to bring it upto code I don't want to sell ir
         
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          Rick513

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          Re:need help with cart need nsf speci Sat, 02/9/13 1:46 PM (permalink)
          I need a manufacturer specif sheet showing nsf certifcation for equip and finisheds for floor and wall and ceiling. But its a hotdog cart and I want to bring it upto code I don't want to sell ir no I didn.t run it thur
           
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            jcheese

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            Re:need help with cart need nsf speci Sat, 02/9/13 3:55 PM (permalink)
            Ask the manufacturer.
             
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              THE WILD DOG

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              Re:need help with cart need nsf speci Sat, 02/9/13 4:11 PM (permalink)
              whos' the manufacturer ???   NSF will only be visable on items/equipment that has been certified, and you can't get it certified unless you have deep pockets, however the alternative is UL listed ( double I know )  and most HD people will pass something if it's 304 stainless as well.
               
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                crepeflipper

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                • Location: Salem, OR
                Re:need help with cart need nsf speci Sat, 02/9/13 4:35 PM (permalink)
                NSF applies to equipment, not to a whole cart or restaurant.  A cart is never an "NSF" cart.  The HD is used to inspecting buildings, not trailers, so you have to help them translate what you have into what they are looking for.  A finish schedule for floors and walls lets them know what they are made of so they can verify that they can be cleaned and sanitized.  For a cart you'd better have stainless steel in the food prep and storage areas.    If this thing is homebuilt out of wood or painted laminate you might have a problem.  Cold storage needs to be cleanable and food grade plastic.  You can't use tupperware or walmart stuff unless it is commercial quality and says NSF on it.  Go look at some cambro stuff at your local restuarant supply.
                Sanitizing, hot holding temperatures, cold storage and hand washing are critical areas in any state.  You need good answers to these before you try and get inspected.
                 
                Sorry, no real shortcuts here.  
                 
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                  djdawg

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                  Re:need help with cart need nsf speci Sat, 02/9/13 7:11 PM (permalink)
                  Rick, you're asking the wrong people.  It's like asking us how many fingers you're holding up...unless we are there we can't help you.  Like everyone said, you need to contact the cart manuf for specifics AND contact your local health dept to see what they require you to have on your cart to operate.
                   
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                    Rick513

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                    Re:need help with cart need nsf speci Sat, 02/9/13 10:37 PM (permalink)
                    Thank you guys for help the cart is made of 304 stainless steel 4 sinks 2 burners 5 gal fresh water tank and 7.5 waste waster tank and it's gravity but I want to switch to pumps and hot water heater and the cart is home made and that's the problem I need speci I will post pics once I learn how to .
                     
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                      Rick513

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                      Re:need help with cart need nsf speci Mon, 02/11/13 4:25 AM (permalink)
                      Hey good news I found out more about this cart its a concession cart company it.s he gladiator model has anyone done business with this company
                       
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                        brickboo

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                        Re:need help with cart need nsf speci Mon, 02/11/13 11:32 AM (permalink)
                        I have the "Patagonia"  that I bought practically brand new not even a scratch on it for $2500 from a fellow that used it maybe 3 or 4 times. It just wasn't the business he thought it would be I guess.
                        It leaves a bit to be desired on the finishing touches. Some corners on the condiments tray were not finished very good. Could tear someone's clothes. The corners never were riveted together. The two pieces just meet. You can pull them away from one another.
                         
                        I called the Manufacturer before I purchased it and he said there was no wood under the cart. It's not true. The compartment holding the two propane tanks is like partical board. This cart like I've said, looked brand new and when I looked inside the propane compartment the paint matches the stainless steel perfect. In the light of the building it was in when I examined it, I could't tell it was a wood product.
                         
                        When it got cold, in November I can't remember the temp, after an hour the water was still not boiling. I had to change the "Orifice." It works fine now.
                         
                        The man who I bought the cart from said the wiring was running through holes drilled through the frame and he rewired it and put nylon bushings in the hole in the metal because the wiring was running against the metal and was showing wear and he hardly towed it at all. He also changed the water lines and the waste water tank. So, I can't say anything about that. He was a meticulous  person. The holes drilled for lighting the burner were not sanded down very well. I wouldn't rub my finger around in it.
                         
                        It looks great but the people building it are not meticulous enough for me. Maybe they are too busy building too many carts. Who knows?
                         
                         
                         
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                          hella good tacos

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                          Re:need help with cart need nsf speci Mon, 02/11/13 11:11 PM (permalink)
                          Hi Ricks
                           
                          Might i suggest you take a Servsafe or similar food prep/ sanitation course.  Many states require them any way and it would greatly help you understand much of what the health department is going to be looking for. 
                           
                          You could save a few bucks and just buy one of their books online (they make new versions regularly but anything published in the last 10 years is going to be current enough for you,)  for cheap.  If your state reauires the certification like mine does, you are going to need it anyhow.
                           
                          Aside from Stainless steel, for cleanable- health department approved- surfaces, aluminum can be an option also. It's usually much cheaper than stainless and can be easier to find.  The health department wants you to use anything that is smooth and cleanable.  No porus or grainy surfaces that bacteria, food particles, or other potentially hazardous things can get trapped in and grow.  
                           
                          also a solid spellcheck could be useful as i am (and perhaps others are too) having a tough time discerning what you are asking in some of your posts..
                           
                          best of luck
                          josh
                          <message edited by hella good tacos on Mon, 02/11/13 11:15 PM>
                           
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                            Rick513

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                            Re:need help with cart need nsf speci Thu, 02/14/13 4:39 AM (permalink)
                            Thanks for the help I really want to know about the company that made my cart I got everything else under control and sorry for bad spelling I'm on a tablet .
                             
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                              chefbuba

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                              Re:need help with cart need nsf speci Thu, 02/14/13 10:33 AM (permalink)
                              Does that tablet have a comma or period key?
                               
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