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Biscuits and gravy - Fri, 06/14/13 7:30 AM
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Another thing that I've been desperate to find good examples of since moving to New England: biscuits and gravy.
 
I took them for granted in the Midwest. And not to pound on NE too much, but the Travelodge in Des Moines served up better B&G than I've found at any diner here. 
 
Mitchell's on Main in Cromwell, CT was one of the first I tried.  They used a quality sausage - NE is great for all kinds of sausage - but the gravy itself was quite thin and rather tasteless.  I had to add rather a lot of salt and pepper.
 

 
The Cromwell Diner also has B&G - I didn't get a pic of that, but they use the same gravy on their chicken-fried steak. More flavorful than Mitchell's, but too thick, and sort of generically salty. Plus it wasn't the best color. Not that B&G is a dish noted for its beauty, but...
 

 

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Re:Biscuits and gravy - Fri, 06/14/13 9:19 AM
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Oh great, just scarfed down an egg mcmuffin and you show me this.

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Re:Biscuits and gravy - Fri, 06/14/13 10:42 AM
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That's too bad about Mitchell's, because at first sight it looks like the gravy would have a lot of flavor!

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Re:Biscuits and gravy - Fri, 06/14/13 12:12 PM
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Ketteract


Another thing that I've been desperate to find good examples of since moving to New England: biscuits and gravy.

I took them for granted in the Midwest. And not to pound on NE too much, but the Travelodge in Des Moines served up better B&G than I've found at any diner here. 

Mitchell's on Main in Cromwell, CT was one of the first I tried.  They used a quality sausage - NE is great for all kinds of sausage - but the gravy itself was quite thin and rather tasteless.  I had to add rather a lot of salt and pepper.



The Cromwell Diner also has B&G - I didn't get a pic of that, but they use the same gravy on their chicken-fried steak. More flavorful than Mitchell's, but too thick, and sort of generically salty. Plus it wasn't the best color. Not that B&G is a dish noted for its beauty, but...




I live in the deep south, it's a mecca for biscuits and gravy!!!

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Re:Biscuits and gravy - Fri, 06/14/13 9:50 PM
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I see those biscuits have been on the grill. Another rather disturbing trend.

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Re:Biscuits and gravy - Sat, 06/15/13 12:12 AM
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In Texas, our Whataburgers have a great biscuit and gravy.  The sauasage is spicy and meaty, and the gravy always perfect.  Although Whataburger is a Texas chain, they have stayed very real. 

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Re:Biscuits and gravy - Sat, 06/15/13 8:52 AM
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I make a mean biscuits and gravy....my Carolina cousins are amazed.....

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Re:Biscuits and gravy - Sat, 06/15/13 9:07 AM
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Biscuits and gravy has been a staple around my family for years served at any meal anytime of the day.  Even on holidays such as Thanksgiving and Christmas as a side.
Mamaw Smith makes a mean drop biscuit.  Somehow she makes them in just a few minutes with a few more minuts to get nice and brown  She makes them small.  She makes a rue and makes sure it is nice and brown with the sausage drippings.  With the crumbled sausage she sat aside, she adds it to the rue before she adds the milk and begins to thicken and then peppers it generously.
 
Serves it with some of her strawberry freezer jam on the side with her cold slightly sweet butter and her strong coffee.
 
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Re:Biscuits and gravy - Sat, 06/15/13 12:10 PM
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Time to 'fess up.  I never ate biscuits and gravy. 

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Re:Biscuits and gravy - Sat, 06/15/13 3:41 PM
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lleechef


Time to 'fess up.  I never ate biscuits and gravy. 

 
I really do not find that strange.  Just yesterday my irrigation guy who was from northern Illinois had never had biscuits and gravy or grits.  Apparently none of those are readily available to our northern friends although both are somewhat of a staple in the south like tomato gravy is more familiar to our friends to the north.  Many foods are particular to the areas in which you reside or how you were raised on.
 
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Re:Biscuits and gravy - Sat, 06/15/13 5:54 PM
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Awww lleechef -- that's sad!  I hope you can either find some to try or make them yourself so you can see why they're so loved. 
 
My mom was from Tennessee and made this often.
 
Ann - please take/post a photo the next time you make them!

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Re:Biscuits and gravy - Sat, 06/15/13 7:40 PM
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This thread got me thinking about sausage and gravy.  I had some Tennessee pride hot sausage in a tube.  I browned it real good and diced it and set it aside.  I then made a roux.  I like to get it brown.  I don't use milk, just water and I add it and bring it to a boil.  It is sorta lumpy at first but as it boils, it levels out.  I add quite a few shakes of black pepper and then add my diced hot sausage.
 
This may not be the way you make it but it works for me.  I have been doing it this way for several years and I had no complaints.
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Re:Biscuits and gravy - Sun, 06/16/13 11:44 AM
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l2b
I promise I will try some soon.  I have to find out what all the hoopla is about this dish!
sundancer
Just curious.......why water??

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Re:Biscuits and gravy - Sun, 06/16/13 1:13 PM
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Sundancer7


lleechef


Time to 'fess up.  I never ate biscuits and gravy. 


I really do not find that strange.  Just yesterday my irrigation guy who was from northern Illinois had never had biscuits and gravy or grits.  Apparently none of those are readily available to our northern friends although both are somewhat of a staple in the south like tomato gravy is more familiar to our friends to the north.  Many foods are particular to the areas in which you reside or how you were raised on.

Paul E. Smith
Knoxville, TN

 
I live in Northern Illinois and biscuits and gravy are a staple in any diner and breakfast spot I have ever been in all over the state.

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Re:Biscuits and gravy - Sun, 06/16/13 2:26 PM
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lleechef

l2b
I promise I will try some soon.  I have to find out what all the hoopla is about this dish!
sundancer
Just curious.......why water??

I'm curious too!
By definition:
roux
/ru/ Show Spelled [roo] Show IPA
noun a cooked mixture of butter or other fat and flour used to thicken sauces, soups, etc.
Origin:
1805–15;  < French  ( beurre ) roux  brown (butter) < Latin russus  red-brown, red-haired, akin to ruber red

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Re:Biscuits and gravy - Sun, 06/16/13 2:51 PM
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lleechef


l2b
I promise I will try some soon.  I have to find out what all the hoopla is about this dish!
sundancer
Just curious.......why water??

 
I have tried milk and I have tried water.  Quite frankly I cannot tell the difference because the real taste comes from the roux which is browned, drippings, pepper  and sausage.  Another thing is I hardly ever buy milk.  I do not use it so I do not have it.  Thickens just the same.
 
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Re:Biscuits and gravy - Sun, 06/16/13 4:04 PM
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Sundancer7


lleechef


l2b
I promise I will try some soon.  I have to find out what all the hoopla is about this dish!
sundancer
Just curious.......why water??


I have tried milk and I have tried water.  Quite frankly I cannot tell the difference because the real taste comes from the roux which is browned, drippings, pepper  and sausage.  Another thing is I hardly ever buy milk.  I do not use it so I do not have it.  Thickens just the same.

Paul E. Smith
Knoxville, TN

Thanks for your reply.  We always have milk.......his and hers......MH drinks 1% and it's skim for me.  Were I to make biscuits and gravy I'd probably buy a pint of whole milk......it's what I do when I make Mornay sauce.


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Re:Biscuits and gravy - Sun, 06/16/13 4:24 PM
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I have not used milk as a beverage in better than 30 years.  A X colleague left our company to join his father in law in the dairy business.  A friend and myself stopped by his dairy and it was huge with perhaps a thousand Holstein cattle that they were milking.  I was anxious to see the operation on this hot July day.  I went into the dairy and there were flies every where and cow poop abundance.  I was behind this cow while their automated milkers were operational and this cow decided then and there to take a huge poop and it splashed me everywhere.  That may seem funny but at that time it was not.  Then I saw that they cleaned the areas to be milked but not perfect.
 
I decided then and there that milk was off my agenda.  If you gotta boil the crap out of it, I do not want any part of it and I have not since.
Quite frankly my gravy will not have milk as I do not buy it. 
 
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Re:Biscuits and gravy - Sun, 06/16/13 4:48 PM
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I have not used milk as a beverage in better than 30 years.  A X colleague left our company to join his father in law in the dairy business.  A friend and myself stopped by his dairy and it was huge with perhaps a thousand Holstein cattle that they were milking.  I was anxious to see the operation on this hot July day.  I went into the dairy and there were flies every where and cow poop abundance.  I was behind this cow while their automated milkers were operational and this cow decided then and there to take a huge poop and it splashed me everywhere.  That may seem funny but at that time it was not.  Then I saw that they cleaned the areas to be milked but not perfect.

I decided then and there that milk was off my agenda.  If you gotta boil the crap out of it, I do not want any part of it and I have not since.
Quite frankly my gravy will not have milk as I do not buy it. 

Paul E. Smith
Knoxville, TN

 
You have to forgive me, but I laughed out loud when I read this.  I'm sure it was not funny at all for you.


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Re:Biscuits and gravy - Sun, 06/16/13 4:59 PM
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At that time our company required management to wear suits, ties and my case a vest.  I should have known better but I went into the dairy full dress.  Big mistake.  Fortunately I was traveling and had a change of clothing.  Shortly after that we changed to business casual.  After I retired, I wear less than business casual.  Shorts and T shirts daily in the summer and mock neck and jeans in the winter..
 
I discovered two thinks that day.  No more milk ever and I definitely would not want to be in the dairy business.  Poor guys as it is a 24-7 business.
 
I can still smell it to this day.
 
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Re:Biscuits and gravy - Sun, 06/16/13 8:24 PM
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lleechef


Time to 'fess up.  I never ate biscuits and gravy. 

 
"gathers the locals with pitchforks and shotguns"  :-)
 
Lisa that is... UNAMERICAN - go back to Alaska... Oh Wait Alaska is part of the US too.
 
Damn Yankee! 

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Re:Biscuits and gravy - Sun, 06/16/13 8:31 PM
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Paul - I would suggest you try using a chicken broth instead of the water.  It will provide a deeper flavor, and you will be surprised by the difference.
 
Growing up on a farm I know what you mean.
I know what you mean about the dairy biz, but you probably wouldnt want to see what is behind MANY of the foods we eat.
 
 

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Re:Biscuits and gravy - Mon, 06/17/13 12:07 AM
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CK
I'll gladly go back to Alaska.  Instead of biscuits and gravy I can have moose, caribou, halibut, salmon, side-stripe shrimp, king crab legs and halibut! 
 

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Re:Biscuits and gravy - Mon, 06/17/13 9:00 AM
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lleechef


Time to 'fess up.  I never ate biscuits and gravy. 

Somebody is letting you down. The Waffle House has biscuits and gravy you know.

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Re:Biscuits and gravy - Mon, 06/17/13 10:44 AM
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While I really like the Waffle House (and I just got back from breakfast there), I wouldn't want someone's first try at biscuits and gravy to be from the Waffle House.

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Re:Biscuits and gravy - Mon, 06/17/13 1:13 PM
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lleechef


CK
I'll gladly go back to Alaska.  Instead of biscuits and gravy I can have moose, caribou, halibut, salmon, side-stripe shrimp, king crab legs and halibut! 


 
Ok - wrong choice ummm you get to stay here and I will go to Alaska and teach them about biscuits and gravy and good stick to the ribs kind of thing on that 50 below morning.
 
hmmm:
 
Side stripe shrimp and grits
Caribou Sausage and Gravy
 

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Re:Biscuits and gravy - Mon, 06/17/13 5:33 PM
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Michael Hoffman

While I really like the Waffle House (and I just got back from breakfast there), I wouldn't want someone's first try at biscuits and gravy to be from the Waffle House.

Like Michael, I'm a Waffle House Affectionato, but I agree, Biscuits & Gravy is not their strong suit.
Most chains don't to it well. You need a Mom & Pop place to get better versions. Or make it at home. 


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Re:Biscuits and gravy - Mon, 06/17/13 5:36 PM
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Michael Hoffman

While I really like the Waffle House (and I just got back from breakfast there), I wouldn't want someone's first try at biscuits and gravy to be from the Waffle House.

Like Michael, I'm a Waffle House Affectionato, but I agree, Biscuits & Gravy is not their strong suit.
Most chains don't do it well. You need a Mom & Pop place to get better versions. Or make it at home. 


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Re:Biscuits and gravy - Mon, 06/17/13 5:54 PM
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I love Waffle House,but agree about their Biscuits & Gravy...When we go to Lancaster, PA, across the street from the Waffle House is a Bob Evans.  Good biscuits & Gravy...good breakfasts all around!!

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Re:Biscuits and gravy - Mon, 06/17/13 6:24 PM
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Bob Evans' biscuits and gravy is good. It's just about the only thing I ever get there. I do wish, though, that they still baked the biscuits from scratch the way the used to do it. Now they are par baked at a commissary and finished in the stores.

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Re:Biscuits and gravy - Mon, 06/17/13 6:32 PM
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not sure where your at but try your local truckstop 

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Re:Biscuits and gravy - Tue, 06/18/13 5:04 PM
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Steak and Shake has decent B&G and they bake their own biscuits
 
 

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Re:Biscuits and gravy - Tue, 06/18/13 5:23 PM
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Many folks on Roadfood won't like this but Hardee's has a beautiful biscuit and gravy.  Sorta cheap but good.  I do not do fast food very often but I cherry pick some things that I like.
 
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Re:Biscuits and gravy - Tue, 06/18/13 5:32 PM
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Bob Evans has the best BnG in our area IMO. And I'm not basing that on just trying 3 or 4 places.

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Re:Biscuits and gravy - Tue, 06/18/13 7:10 PM
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Bob Evans B&G is the main reason I don't eat at Bob Evans. Had some there many years ago and they just flat out sucked. Haven't been back since. Cracker Barrel does a better job, and theirs is only so-so.

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Re:Biscuits and gravy - Tue, 06/18/13 7:16 PM
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Sundancer7


Many folks on Roadfood won't like this but Hardee's has a beautiful biscuit and gravy.  Sorta cheap but good.  I do not do fast food very often but I cherry pick some things that I like.

Paul E. Smith
Knoxville, TN
I'm with you Paul E.


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Re:Biscuits and gravy - Tue, 06/18/13 8:19 PM
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You might want to give it another shot. It's only about $3.  I've only had it in the last 3 years so I don't know if it's changed since you had it. I don't think I've tried CB's BnG.
 
Root-Beer Man


Bob Evans B&G is the main reason I don't eat at Bob Evans. Had some there many years ago and they just flat out sucked. Haven't been back since. Cracker Barrel does a better job, and theirs is only so-so.



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Re:Biscuits and gravy - Wed, 06/19/13 9:40 AM
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I live in the land of illegit-scuits. It's almost a crusade to even find one of those...

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Re:Biscuits and gravy - Wed, 06/19/13 9:45 AM
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There's an outfit down here named simply Jim's that serves a decent biscuits and gravy but in my humble opinion nothing comes close to the Monument Cafe. Too bad you can't get no scrapple.

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Re:Biscuits and gravy - Wed, 06/19/13 11:51 PM
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Sundancer7

Many folks on Roadfood won't like this but Hardee's has a beautiful biscuit and gravy.  Sorta cheap but good.  I do not do fast food very often but I cherry pick some things that I like.
Paul E. Smith
Knoxville, TN

No need to apologize for Hardee's Biscuits Sundancer. Hardee's makes a very respectable product and now they've taught their Western Cousins, Carl's JR. how to make them. Been Jonesing for Hardees since I left the South and now I can get them out here! Just as good as "Back East"!

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Re:Biscuits and gravy - Thu, 06/20/13 12:12 AM
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Paul, when I lived in Kingsport, TN for several years I thought Hardee's had as good BnG as could be had in the area.
 
 
Sundancer7


Many folks on Roadfood won't like this but Hardee's has a beautiful biscuit and gravy.  Sorta cheap but good.  I do not do fast food very often but I cherry pick some things that I like.

Paul E. Smith
Knoxville, TN



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Re:Biscuits and gravy - Tue, 06/25/13 3:45 PM
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Does anyone else like adding a bit of Tabasco to their Biscuits and Gravy?

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Re:Biscuits and gravy - Tue, 06/25/13 5:03 PM
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Michael Hoffman


While I really like the Waffle House (and I just got back from breakfast there), I wouldn't want someone's first try at biscuits and gravy to be from the Waffle House.


I love their B&G (as a side) chiefly because they"crisp-up" the biscuits before applying the gravy.
 
(But, I still prefer 5 Guys to WH for "chain" burgers).

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Re:Biscuits and gravy - Tue, 06/25/13 5:28 PM
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They have to "crisp up" their biscuits. The pre-baked things are kept at room temperature.

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Re:Biscuits and gravy - Tue, 06/25/13 5:55 PM
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Michael Hoffman


They have to "crisp up" their biscuits. The pre-baked things are kept at room temperature.


Even though I knew their burgers are thawed from frozen, I did not know that.
 
Save for the late, great L&N Seafood Grill's, I'm not a big biscuit fan and much prefer sausage gravy over a well-toasted English muffin.  (I detest "soggy" bread). 
 
WH's "technique" removes most of the sogginess.

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Re:Biscuits and gravy - Tue, 06/25/13 6:45 PM
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As it happens, while having breakfast this morning at the Waffle House (three eggs scrambled with cheese, hash browns scattered light and peppered, and a half order of wheat toast) I got to thinking about the SOS my wife had at the Summit Diner last week. It occurred to me that I just might get some sausage gravy over toast next time to try to get something similar. I remember when in the service the SOS was crumbled ground beef in cream gravy over toast.

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Re:Biscuits and gravy - Tue, 06/25/13 7:26 PM
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Not to turn this into a Waffle House thread but apparently they are required to "upsell" at least in my local one. This morning I was asked if I wanted to try their "All Star" breakfast and as it was pointed out to me on the menu the waiter described all the available options by pointing to the various pictures of the waffles, meats, etc. There were a few corporate Waffle House types in the restaurant so I suspect they had just undergone training for this. In fact the guy that cooked my eggs had a name tag that said he was the regional grand poobah or something similar.

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Re:Biscuits and gravy - Tue, 06/25/13 7:32 PM
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I'm sorry I started Waffle House in this thread.

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Re:Biscuits and gravy - Tue, 06/25/13 8:07 PM
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One of the things I really appreciate about Waffle House restaurants is the fact that the top people, whether corporate or regional franchise, come in and work the grills and the booths and counters of the various stores on a regular basis -- especially weekends and holidays.

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Re:Biscuits and gravy - Tue, 06/25/13 10:19 PM
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Another vote for Bob Evans.  Not sure if they're in CT, though.

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Re:Biscuits and gravy - Wed, 06/26/13 5:12 AM
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Not at all impressed with Bob Evans biscuits and gravy. But, I have had the best-I make my own.
Mr. Hoffman-I agree about Waffle house execs-they worked side by side with me on occasion when I worked there years ago.....

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Re:Biscuits and gravy - Wed, 06/26/13 8:42 AM
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Rufus Patterson


Does anyone else like adding a bit of Tabasco to their Biscuits and Gravy?

I add some spots of tomato juice to mine! It's a throw-back from time spent in Tennessee, where you get sliced tomato with a lot of breakfasts! Try it, you'll like it!!

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Re:Biscuits and gravy - Wed, 06/26/13 8:54 AM
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Michael Hoffman


As it happens, while having breakfast this morning at the Waffle House (three eggs scrambled with cheese, hash browns scattered light and peppered, and a half order of wheat toast) I got to thinking about the SOS my wife had at the Summit Diner last week. It occurred to me that I just might get some sausage gravy over toast next time to try to get something similar. I remember when in the service the SOS was crumbled ground beef in cream gravy over toast.


Michael, I truly thank you for leading me to Waffle House. 
 
Our WH in McKinney also offers the same friendly, accommodating service and nicely constructed food that you enjoy in yours.
 
Again, thanks!
 
jh

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Re:Biscuits and gravy - Wed, 06/26/13 12:19 PM
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ann peeples


Not at all impressed with Bob Evans biscuits and gravy. But, I have had the best-I make my own.
Mr. Hoffman-I agree about Waffle house execs-they worked side by side with me on occasion when I worked there years ago.....

I had no idea you once worked there. No wonder I like you.


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Re:Biscuits and gravy - Wed, 06/26/13 12:20 PM
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MetroplexJim


Michael Hoffman


As it happens, while having breakfast this morning at the Waffle House (three eggs scrambled with cheese, hash browns scattered light and peppered, and a half order of wheat toast) I got to thinking about the SOS my wife had at the Summit Diner last week. It occurred to me that I just might get some sausage gravy over toast next time to try to get something similar. I remember when in the service the SOS was crumbled ground beef in cream gravy over toast.


Michael, I truly thank you for leading me to Waffle House. 

Our WH in McKinney also offers the same friendly, accommodating service and nicely constructed food that you enjoy in yours.

Again, thanks!

jh


You're welcome. But I refuse to take the blame whenever you get something you don't like, or one of the servers throws a fork at you.

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Re:Biscuits and gravy - Wed, 06/26/13 6:27 PM
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In Largo, Florida in 1979 when Bob and I were first married, Mr.Hoffman!

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Re:Biscuits and gravy - Mon, 07/15/13 5:03 AM
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Biscuits and gravy is good, but is not a proper breakfast, your breakfast must be something heavy food, like bread omelet, milk, start your day with full of energy

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Re:Biscuits and gravy - Mon, 07/15/13 12:18 PM
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Another one.

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Re:Biscuits and gravy - Mon, 07/15/13 12:22 PM
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Michael Hoffman


Another one.

 
Will watch


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Re:Biscuits and gravy - Mon, 07/15/13 1:00 PM
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Surprisingly California has some very good B&G  at little mom and pop places here and there. 
One morning, very tired after picking up folks at airport in middle of the night, I made the huge mistake of stopping at a Denny for breakfast- knew better , but was as I said was  v tired, Ordered B&G and it was the worst I have ever had ,just a salty salty block of molten cement. Too tired to make too much  fuss, I told the cashier on the way out that they may want to check the Gravy - her response was amazing...`we have nothing to do with it - they just boil  plastic bags of the stuff in the back"  ..and they have the nerve to call themselves Americas Diner! 

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