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Michael Stern
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Please Don't Get Banned From the Forums - Mon, 06/17/13 6:11 AM
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As some regular forum contributors know, the latest brouhaha (over who-cares-what) became a battle of personalities with all the couth of a pro wrestling match, including ad hominem attacks and disrespectful posts. The people who made those posts have been banned from the forums.
 
We at Roadfood.com must state the obvious: This web site is about finding and eating great food. Any and all contributions to that end are welcome. Roadfood.com is not the place for character assassination or prideful ego trips. Anyone, whoever he may be and however righteous he feels, who writes a post that aims to hurt, discredit, or ridicule another contributor will be banned. Period. End of story.
 

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Re:Please Don't Get Banned From the Forums - Mon, 06/17/13 8:27 AM
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Thank u for reminding us of the purpose of this treasured website.
 

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Re:Please Don't Get Banned From the Forums - Mon, 06/17/13 10:04 AM
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Each of us is capable of being an important contributor to this board; however, we would do well to remember that the very moment you decide you’re indispensable; you have laid the groundwork for finding out otherwise.

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Re:Please Don't Get Banned From the Forums - Mon, 06/17/13 10:18 AM
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Micheal,
Thank you.  Many of us would return if every contribution wouldn't be counted on to garner negativity.
3 Cheers.

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Re:Please Don't Get Banned From the Forums - Mon, 06/17/13 1:53 PM
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Thank you very much, Michael.

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Re:Please Don't Get Banned From the Forums - Mon, 06/17/13 2:21 PM
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Yes thanks. We need this!

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Re:Please Don't Get Banned From the Forums - Mon, 06/17/13 3:09 PM
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Thank you, Michael.
One of the things I treasure most of all on Roadfood.com is the general lack of negativity and, the friendly and informative comments made by the great majority of members.
Thank you for your efforts to keep it that way.
 
 
 

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Re:Please Don't Get Banned From the Forums - Mon, 06/17/13 6:41 PM
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My thanks as well.  I too have found the people on the site to be extremely kind and helpful, whether via the Internet or in person. It is a shame that some folks can't behave themselves, but the Internet seems to bring out the worst in some.

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Re:Please Don't Get Banned From the Forums - Mon, 06/17/13 7:08 PM
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Folks:  A sort of interesting thing to note.  99.99 percent of the posters are straight up and never a negative post.  Occasionally some fruit cake with a cross to bare gets upset with some  posters.  Why?  I do not know because like so many of the incidents across the USA, you never understand.  The Mods appreciate all of you and work sorta hard to keep the site clean.  Sometimes without meaning to, we offend some folks and for that we are all truly sorry as that is not our intention..  We sorta know all of you and watch new posters carefully although with  thought and appreciation. We need new posters and it certainly is not our intent to cause new posters any issue.  It is our wish that they continue to add value to this site and all of you do.
 
My sincere thoughts and appreciation.
Paul E. Smith
Knoxville, TN

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Re:Please Don't Get Banned From the Forums - Mon, 06/17/13 10:24 PM
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Can we not do something about those SPAM kitchen posts from England?

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Re:Please Don't Get Banned From the Forums - Mon, 06/17/13 11:31 PM
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Roadfood friends would be strangers...without Roadfood.com.

Right or wrong in any matter...good friends usually reach for the fire extinguisher...not the gasoline can.

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Re:Please Don't Get Banned From the Forums - Mon, 06/17/13 11:34 PM
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Twinwillow

Can we not do something about those SPAM kitchen posts from England?

I paid them with my check from the prince of Nigeria, and they said they'd be shipping my order soon

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Re:Please Don't Get Banned From the Forums - Mon, 06/17/13 11:58 PM
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TJ Jackson


Twinwillow

Can we not do something about those SPAM kitchen posts from England?

I paid them with my check from the prince of Nigeria, and they said they'd be shipping my order soon

 


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Re:Please Don't Get Banned From the Forums - Tue, 06/18/13 5:07 AM
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Twinwillow


Can we not do something about those SPAM kitchen posts from England?

I hope you have noticed that the spam regarding kitchens have not appeared in about two weeks.
 
Paul E. Smith


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Re:Please Don't Get Banned From the Forums - Tue, 06/18/13 7:07 AM
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Twinwillow


Can we not do something about those SPAM kitchen posts from England?

I coded a bot to counter their bot, so if you see a SPAM kitchen post, wait one hour and it will be gone.  Poof!

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Re:Please Don't Get Banned From the Forums - Tue, 06/18/13 7:17 AM
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Stephen:
I do not know a lot
about your bot
 
Paul E. Smith
Knoxville, TN

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Re:Please Don't Get Banned From the Forums - Tue, 06/18/13 7:20 AM
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Now I know a lot
more about the bot
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_bot#Malicious_purposes
Paul E. Smith
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Re:Please Don't Get Banned From the Forums - Tue, 06/18/13 7:20 AM
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Thanks for that info Stephen.  Very interesting.  I have seen a few of those kitchen posts late at night, but noticed they disappeared quickly.  It made me wonder which moderator was up that late deleting them!

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Re:Please Don't Get Banned From the Forums - Tue, 06/18/13 8:45 AM
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MOD-BOT to the rescue!!!

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Re:Please Don't Get Banned From the Forums - Tue, 06/18/13 9:48 AM
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Stephen Rushmore Jr.


I coded a bot to counter their bot, so if you see a SPAM kitchen post, wait one hour and it will be gone.  Poof!
Rock 'Em Sock 'Em Roadfood-bots!

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Re:Please Don't Get Banned From the Forums - Tue, 06/18/13 10:40 AM
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I'm happy to know we have our own in-house NSA.
Thank you, Stephen! 

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Re:Please Don't Get Banned From the Forums - Tue, 06/18/13 10:49 AM
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Good thing I got my order in quickly

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Re:Please Don't Get Banned From the Forums - Tue, 06/18/13 11:15 AM
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TJ, let us know how that kitchen works out for ya.

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Re:Please Don't Get Banned From the Forums - Tue, 06/18/13 11:33 AM
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Wow! Not sure what happened but I guess I'm glad it happened. I used to post here fairly frequently but pretty much stay away because of non-food post remarks.

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Re:Please Don't Get Banned From the Forums - Tue, 06/18/13 11:42 AM
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I for one would be very disappointed if this forum went away.  I have gotten so much help and encouragement from the kind folks on this site. Sad to say there will always be the malcontents and detractors which is why I don't do facebook anymore.

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Re:Please Don't Get Banned From the Forums - Tue, 06/18/13 12:12 PM
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What is this "Facebook" thing you are talking about ....really, never did FB...never will. Roadfood.com is fine for me.

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Re:Please Don't Get Banned From the Forums - Tue, 06/18/13 2:42 PM
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Darn ... I missed a good fight????    It would have been a good time to test out popcorn recipes... !!!... 

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Re:Please Don't Get Banned From the Forums - Tue, 06/18/13 4:15 PM
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I don't get to post often, but I love the site and the forums, and have used this information when planning road trips too many times to count.  I'm sending MEGA appreciation your way.

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Re:Please Don't Get Banned From the Forums - Tue, 06/18/13 8:11 PM
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Add me to the list of people who are extremely appreciative that this site exists. Living in an area where chains thrive, my life is definitely better because of the restaurants I've learned about from others on here.

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Re:Please Don't Get Banned From the Forums - Wed, 06/19/13 12:23 AM
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I have eaten at many Roadfood recommended places and thoroughly enjoyed all of them.  I love the trip reports.  But for me, the best part of Roadfood.com is the people.  I have made so many friends thanks to this site.  I even married one! 
I think I only got semi-political once and that was in conjunction with Lone Star (I miss her) when the topic was about drilling in ANWR.  I stated that the caribou seek refuge under the existing pipeline from the constant summer sun and that drilling in ANWR would be a good thing.  Someone posted "How would you know?  You're not a caribou!"
I still laugh about it.  Neither Lone Star nor I got banned for it.  I try to stick to food/Roadfood/restaurant related topics. 

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Re:Please Don't Get Banned From the Forums - Wed, 06/19/13 6:06 AM
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I support the concept of having a board free of contentious posts and hope that the rules will always be enforced equally and that should extend to all of us, including admins and moderators. That hasn't always been the case. Sometimes here, it seems, some of us are more equal than others.

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Re:Please Don't Get Banned From the Forums - Wed, 06/19/13 9:45 AM
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Amen jman, amen.

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Re:Please Don't Get Banned From the Forums - Thu, 06/20/13 10:52 AM
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Aw geez, I missed it. Oh well.

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Re:Please Don't Get Banned From the Forums - Fri, 06/21/13 10:45 PM
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Actually I missed all the fuss. I just would like us to get along and talk about good food
 

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Re:Please Don't Get Banned From the Forums - Fri, 07/5/13 1:52 PM
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One new way to get banned (or should be banned). The spammers have a new tactic; they are using keywords to find material elsewhere on the web, and then grabbing pieces of them to make what look vaguely like replies. It takes a couple of minutes to double check on the web; should I flag these individually, or is there some better way to report a mulch-plagiarizer?
 
The most recent culprit is Harshada; I flagged several of his messages that I was able to almost instantly determined were lifted from other sources.
 
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Re:Please Don't Get Banned From the Forums - Fri, 07/5/13 2:47 PM
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My computer got hacked as a result of me clicking on a link from this site. Blaming me, not roadfood. I think what I did was checking out one of the kitchen sites out of curiousity. Bob fixed the problem, but reminded me about cats, and their curiousity, etc.....Anyway, love this site, its my food bible. And good friendships have been formed.

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Re:Please Don't Get Banned From the Forums - Fri, 07/5/13 4:08 PM
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As a whatever burger(I don't look at my status)I never try to offend anyone.If I ever do just let me know.I love food,isn't that why we are here?
I still want that heart attack plate that JRPfeff showed me on when does steak become a roast.I have a ambulance standing by.lol
<message edited by jackd418 on Fri, 07/5/13 4:18 PM>

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Re:Please Don't Get Banned From the Forums - Fri, 07/5/13 5:27 PM
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jman


I support the concept of having a board free of contentious posts and hope that the rules will always be enforced equally and that should extend to all of us, including admins and moderators. That hasn't always been the case. Sometimes here, it seems, some of us are more equal than others.


Tru-dat.

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Re:Please Don't Get Banned From the Forums - Sun, 07/7/13 10:17 AM
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MetroplexJim


jman


I support the concept of having a board free of contentious posts and hope that the rules will always be enforced equally and that should extend to all of us, including admins and moderators. That hasn't always been the case. Sometimes here, it seems, some of us are more equal than others.


Tru-dat.

 
another word I have to search what it means, I like when it is all in English.

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Re:Please Don't Get Banned From the Forums - Sun, 07/7/13 10:31 AM
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I know that there is a "rules, please read" post, and most new posters are clearly interested in the conversations, but, outside the pure spammers, there is occasionally someone who comes here for the sole purpose of pushing their own business, and who leaves a bunch of meaningless one liners for the sole purpose of becoming able to post links and pics to their business. I'm wondering if there should be an additional message, a nice, short, "message to new posters", which would include something like, "If you own a business, we understand that you would like to plug it. However, we consider the forums to be a two-way street; you need to add to the conversations before you take advantage of them to build up business. In general, while they are not forbidden, we do not consider simple messages of assent or simple questions without explanation of why you're asking to be adding to conversations."
 
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Re:Please Don't Get Banned From the Forums - Sun, 07/7/13 6:22 PM
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KurtSara


MetroplexJim


jman


I support the concept of having a board free of contentious posts and hope that the rules will always be enforced equally and that should extend to all of us, including admins and moderators. That hasn't always been the case. Sometimes here, it seems, some of us are more equal than others.


Tru-dat.


another word I have to search what it means, I like when it is all in English.

 
Ummmm that was ALL in ENGLISH??

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Re:Please Don't Get Banned From the Forums - Wed, 07/17/13 2:52 PM
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Somehow I missed all the brouhaha, but just reading thru this thread and another on in the Misc. forum, it seems that a few different types of offenders are being lumped together.
 
There's the spammers and the posters who mostly just post to cause trouble. Get rid of em!!! Any way the moderators can, and thanks for doing it.
 
But it also seems that several (three? eight?, hard to tell, I missed the first several episodes of the current season...) long-time valuable posters have also been banned, and I for one am missing thier valuable input. (I always ignored thier non-valuable input). Can't those people be given a sort of  "favorite cantankerous Uncle" status and be allowed back? I don't think anyone who has been a long time member of Roadfood is really happy they are gone.

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Re:Please Don't Get Banned From the Forums - Wed, 07/17/13 3:06 PM
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ken8038
 

I don't think anyone who has been a long time member of Roadfood is really happy they are gone.


Oh, I can think of one.

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Re:Please Don't Get Banned From the Forums - Wed, 07/17/13 4:44 PM
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Michael Hoffman


ken8038
 

I don't think anyone who has been a long time member of Roadfood is really happy they are gone.


Oh, I can think of one.



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Re:Please Don't Get Banned From the Forums - Wed, 07/17/13 5:14 PM
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Michael Hoffman


ken8038
 

I don't think anyone who has been a long time member of Roadfood is really happy they are gone.


Oh, I can think of one.

I can think of more than one.

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Re:Please Don't Get Banned From the Forums - Wed, 07/17/13 5:36 PM
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Quite frankly there are many of us.  It is true that over the years some has left and many have stayed for many reasons.  Those that continue to improve the site really help contribute and provide excellent examples for others.  It takes many different personalities for any site or company to be successful.  Successful sites have many contributors and the diversity of these folks make Roadfood.
 
It is easy to be a quitter.  All you have to do is quit but if you truly have a interest, you continue.  Sometimes some  become irritated as some poorly thought out post or thread or some comment by some.  I sorta guess if you have thin skin, you can be irritated on any forum as those type live among us and always will.
 
As a moderator and I am on my 13th year and believe me, all mods cannot have thin skins.  Believe it or not,  there has been numerous threats, awful emails and other nasty stuff.  If we did not have a interest in Roadfood, the simple route would be to quit.  Personally I never quit and I never have.  I hope all of you who read this feel the same way and I sincerely hope that all of you continually to contribute.
 
I wish I could name all the folks who continually contribute to Roadfood.  They are so numerous that I would be remiss if I tried to name some and miss many.  Thanks to all of you.
 
Paul E. Smith
Knoxville, TN

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Re:Please Don't Get Banned From the Forums - Wed, 07/17/13 5:57 PM
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Interest in the forums rise and fall for many reasons, and folks come and go, or hang around for the social exchanges we seem to enjoy here.
  All of us from the newest to an old guy like Paul (he IS 6 months older than me) find our interest are met pretty well on this site. Whether you just want a recommendation for a place to eat, or like to follow some of the major travelers like BuffetBuster and WJ and TTM to name just a few, lots of great folks participate here.
  However as I am sure each of you can  identify, not everyone matches well with everyone else, and sometimes the friction of personalities spills over onto the forums here.  We can but hope that when there is a conflict, that the folks involved will recognize the need to move to private channels of communication to resolve the issues, if possible.  In some other cases folks have dropped out of the group over these conflicts, and others have--at times-- decided to try to garner support for their version of the conflict  by posting their grievances.
 
Hopefully the place will calm down soon, and those who are reaffirmed can continue to post their info without the conflicts that seemed to blow up recently

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Re:Please Don't Get Banned From the Forums - Wed, 07/17/13 7:14 PM
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KurtSara


MetroplexJim


jman


I support the concept of having a board free of contentious posts and hope that the rules will always be enforced equally and that should extend to all of us, including admins and moderators. That hasn't always been the case. Sometimes here, it seems, some of us are more equal than others.


Tru-dat.


another word I have to search what it means, I like when it is all in English.


"New School" = Tru-dat.
"Old School" = That is true.
 
Just trying to keep up with these wonderful times!

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Re:Please Don't Get Banned From the Forums - Wed, 07/17/13 9:01 PM
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Roadfood will survive the loss of some good posters. It always has. It always will.

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Re:Please Don't Get Banned From the Forums - Wed, 07/17/13 11:10 PM
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Sometimes I wonder if the "Total Posts" numbers might intimidate a newbie wanting to place their first post? Not that I would want to change that feature. I know we've always tried to welcome honest first timers.

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Re:Please Don't Get Banned From the Forums - Thu, 07/18/13 3:21 PM
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I propose a term for people who are coming on putting in a bunch of meaningless posts to up their count and are clearly just here to hawk a business or send people to a malware site: XX's. For those who have been following this, the reason should be obvious.
 
Bart

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Re:Please Don't Get Banned From the Forums - Thu, 07/18/13 3:35 PM
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We give them two kisses?

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Re:Please Don't Get Banned From the Forums - Sun, 07/21/13 4:57 PM
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Whatever happened to Littleman?

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Re:Please Don't Get Banned From the Forums - Sun, 07/21/13 6:26 PM
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This site is still a great resource for places to eat. Only problem is most information is 3 plus years old. It needs some life brought back into it. When longtime members leave or get banned its not good. They were once great members that should have been talked to in private by Michael Stern prior to being banned. Maybe he did. I have never heard anyone ask for help or suggestions regarding this site. The internet has changed as have blogs and forums. This one always seems to just plod along like an outdated menu....Russ

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Re:Please Don't Get Banned From the Forums - Mon, 07/22/13 12:43 PM
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Russ Jackson
They were once great members that should have been talked to in private by Michael Stern prior to being banned. Maybe he did. I have never heard anyone ask for help or suggestions regarding this site. The internet has changed as have blogs and forums.

The group rules state that moderators are supposed to contact the poster personally (or try to) before banning them to see if the problem can get fixed. I see no evidence that this is not the case, and the behavior of the moderators in general make me believe that it is the case.
 
In addition, I want to point out that with "up to the minute" sites like Facebook and Twitter, you lose the older information very quickly, even if it's still relevant.