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2013/07/29 12:42:11 (permalink)

Restaurants categories facing extinction

As with many threads I start, this was inspired by something somebody (Michael Hoffman in this case) alluded to in another thread.
 
I am not talking about individual restaurants here, but entire categories which might have been common at one point, but, for whatever reason, restaurant types have been shrinking to the point of extinction. Some are due to changes in public taste, like German restaurants. Some are due to competition from big chains, like the drug store soda fountain/lunch counter.
 
What types of eateries have you seen move towards extinction (and whether or not you think it is a good thing)?
 
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Re:Restaurants categories facing extinction 2013/07/29 13:05:45 (permalink)
The classic Jewish Deli's are becoming a rarity.  New Deli's pop up, but they're modern, gormet, some weird fusion, ect. 
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Re:Restaurants categories facing extinction 2013/07/29 13:13:35 (permalink)
Old-style, Chinese-American chop suey/chow mein-type restaurants.  Typically family-owned and run, many date back to the 1920s or 1930s.  They can still be found in some places (I just had lunch at one, the Orange Garden, in Chicago about a week ago), but many have gone out of business due to the rise of "Chinese" buffets, changes in popular taste, and, I assume, upwardly-mobile offspring who have pursued other careers.
 
 
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Re:Restaurants categories facing extinction 2013/07/29 13:22:37 (permalink)
With the exception of Cincinnati, chili parlors don't seem as prevalant as they once were.
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Re:Restaurants categories facing extinction 2013/07/29 13:26:36 (permalink)
Ice Cream trucks?  Haven't seen one in years except in areas that allow semi-perm food trucks.  Certainly none cruising the neighborhoods
 
And a lot of the smaller seasonal MOM&POP type burger/clam places on Cape Cod seemed to have succumbed to the chains or year rounders with liquor licenses.
 
And Sonic does car hop service...but don't see many independents.  Maybe I'll just go eat goodies at the drive-in theater
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Re:Restaurants categories facing extinction 2013/07/29 15:11:57 (permalink)
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Ice Cream trucks?  Haven't seen one in years except in areas that allow semi-perm food trucks.  Certainly none cruising the neighborhoods


Not around here. If I only see one twice, it's a slow day.
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Re:Restaurants categories facing extinction 2013/07/29 15:24:10 (permalink)
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Ice Cream trucks?  Haven't seen one in years except in areas that allow semi-perm food trucks.  Certainly none cruising the neighborhoods

 
I will glad you send you the arsehole and his truck that runs the one through my neighborhood.  His truck is prehistoric and his music is gawd awful and tinny.  But he slows down and the kids all FLOCK to him.  he usually starts up around Memorial Day and runs until Oct 1.
 
Each day around 1pm and 7:30pm in the summer and only 7:30pm after school starts (which is Wednesday this week)
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Re:Restaurants categories facing extinction 2013/07/29 15:52:08 (permalink)
I just bought a Worksman ice cream tricycle, and plan to start selling ice cream novelties in Central Florida early next month. Unfortunately, the town I live in (which I won't name at the moment) has a mobile food vending ordinance which prohibits ANY type of food vending vehicle (carts or trucks) in residential areas. So in my town, at least, the days of kids responding to the siren's song of the ice cream chimes are over.
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Re:Restaurants categories facing extinction 2013/07/29 15:58:59 (permalink)
Rootbeer stands have gone by the way side
 
Local Bakeries (at least around here) have succummed to DD and KK
 
We have NO hot dog stands either and Cincinnati makes some mighty fine encased meat products
 
 
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Re:Restaurants categories facing extinction 2013/07/29 16:58:03 (permalink)
Oh.and I forgot.is there (are there) any automats left?  I only got to one once.at age 10 they were a marvel!  The ones I had in some of my companies left a lot to be desired.
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Re:Restaurants categories facing extinction 2013/07/29 17:10:27 (permalink)
Actually automats are making somewha of a comeback in NYC and LA and big cities, and serving some not so normal automat fare too.
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Re:Restaurants categories facing extinction 2013/07/29 17:38:26 (permalink)
Tiki-Bars/Restaurants: Trader Vics and Trader Vic's wannabes.
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Re:Restaurants categories facing extinction 2013/07/29 17:54:25 (permalink)
Well, according to Davydd, there are those Scandinavian restaurants in the Upper Midwest that "never existed"  
 
Small town cafes /family style restaurants, particularly in the mid west have been replaced by those "casual" chain restaurants that we all love to hate- 
 
Although there are still lots of meat n threes in the south, the urban ones appear to be disappearing and are being replaced by more upscale  "new south" style restaurants...
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Re:Restaurants categories facing extinction 2013/07/29 17:55:07 (permalink)
WOW last time I was in a Trader Vic's was..... a while ago in Bangkok, Thailand.  Yes they have gone bye bye.
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Re:Restaurants categories facing extinction 2013/07/29 19:45:55 (permalink)
CajunKing

Rootbeer stands have gone by the way side

Good one!  Which is a shame, because who doesn't love homemade root beer?

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Re:Restaurants categories facing extinction 2013/07/29 19:59:38 (permalink)
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WOW last time I was in a Trader Vic's was..... a while ago in Bangkok, Thailand.  Yes they have gone bye bye.


Just a few years ago Trader Vic's returned to Dallas with great fanfare.  It closed before we got around to going. (Mrs. Metro IV does not drink, so there was no point).
 
The last one I visited was in the basement of The Plaza, downstairs off the CPS entrance - circa 1982.  (That GF did drink)!
 
In his "Layover - SFO", Anthony Bourdain featured this http://www.tongaroom.com/ which is in the basement of the Nob Hill Fairmont.  Of it (after a few Tiki-Cocktails) he said: "This is like, the greatest place in the history of the earth".  That is such an excellent summary of the Tiki-Culture "in practice"!
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Re:Restaurants categories facing extinction 2013/07/29 23:04:17 (permalink)
You sure don't see many "coffee shops" not to be mistaken for today's interpretation.
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Re:Restaurants categories facing extinction 2013/07/30 06:51:41 (permalink)
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Ice Cream trucks?  Haven't seen one in years except in areas that allow semi-perm food trucks.  Certainly none cruising the neighborhoods

Not around here. If I only see one twice, it's a slow day.

Some ice cream trucks around here are known to also sell illicit drugs.
 
http://www.nypost.com/p/n...ZqpZ0FDNohpaC2Um4NucOP
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Re:Restaurants categories facing extinction 2013/07/30 08:34:04 (permalink)
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WOW last time I was in a Trader Vic's was..... a while ago in Bangkok, Thailand.  Yes they have gone bye bye.


There's one in downtown Belleview, WA.  Pretty swank too.  I used to pop in for a tiki cocktail nightcap from time to time.  It was walking distance from my place.
 
Edit - OK, I'm forced to take that back.  Just looked on google maps and it's been replaced by some asian-fusion eatery.
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Re:Restaurants categories facing extinction 2013/07/30 08:40:04 (permalink)
Other than the Indianapolis area, cafeterias seem to be on the decline.
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Re:Restaurants categories facing extinction 2013/07/30 08:58:42 (permalink)
I'm surprised that no one has yet mentioned the lunch counters/ soda fountains at "old school" drug and '5 & 10' stores.
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Re:Restaurants categories facing extinction 2013/07/30 13:00:50 (permalink)
Another area where cafeterias are still popular is in the Southeast, especially the Carolinas.  The Winston-Salem NC based K&W chain has nearly forty locations throughout the region and they generally do very good business, especially on Sundays. I'm speaking from experience here as I've stood in long lines, tray in hand and eyeing all the great looking food, more times than I can begin to count.
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Re:Restaurants categories facing extinction 2013/07/30 13:25:04 (permalink)
Cafeteria's used to very popular here in Florida but at least here on the southeast coast they've virtually disappeared.
I remember when I moved to St. Pete in the late 60's there seemed to one or two per block in the downtown area
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Re:Restaurants categories facing extinction 2013/07/30 14:02:59 (permalink)
 
"Coffee Shops" are rapidly disappearing.  I'm not talking about  "coffee houses", where the birkenstock-clad "new hippies" and "hipsters"  hang out leeching the free Wi-Fi.  I'm talking the diner-esque ones epitomized by the Googie style "coffee shops" of southern California from late 1940s to mid-1960s, which served great hot meals.  They had efficient waitresses named Madge, Loretta, or Rita who would refill your drink before you had time to ask.  What a sharp contrast to today's "coffee houses" with the entitled slackers working there, mumbling some jibberish over their "tip cup" with their pierced tongues.   The old places had wondeful service and pretty darn good food.   The DC area had the "Hot Shoppes", and the last of those "coffee shops" closed 10-15 years ago.  Southern Cal is still holding on to a couple handfuls of the old coffee shops, but they are in danger of disappearing. 
 
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post edited by Glenn1234 - 2013/07/30 14:04:04
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Re:Restaurants categories facing extinction 2013/07/30 14:22:54 (permalink)
How can you mooch free wifi? That's why they have it, so customers will drink coffee while on their ipads.
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Re:Restaurants categories facing extinction 2013/07/30 15:01:19 (permalink)
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How can you mooch free wifi? That's why they have it, so customers will drink coffee while on their ipads.

 
Sorry.  Poor wording by me.  What I mean is hanging out there all day mooching space, while using the free Wi-Fi.  A friend in the business complains that the same mooches come in all the time and use the Wi-Fi all day long, taking up seating space most of the day, while spending maybe $4.00 over the several hours they sit there.   A few are even balls-y enough to come in and just use space without spending a dime. 
 
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Re:Restaurants categories facing extinction 2013/07/30 15:25:42 (permalink)
Coffee shops are still growing in my neck of the woods.
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Re:Restaurants categories facing extinction 2013/07/30 15:41:22 (permalink)
Glenn,
Read the post I did a few weeks ago on the restoration of a real Googie-era diner in Downey by Bob's Big Boy. You'll find that things are looking up---a bit, at least.
 
MetroplexJim,
Not far away from me, on Pacific Coast Highway with it's back to Huntington Harbor, is Don The Beachcomber. The building was originally Sam's Seafood, built back in the 50's and most of the interior including the Tiki Lounge has been maintained with the original look. I've been there many times and it's a good place. I even went to a Hawaiian Poke Festival there----that was a lot of fun, with Hawaiian music, 50 different restaurants competing for best Poke and great Mai Tais.
 
For me, what I miss are the Hungarian restaurants in L.A. I don't know how the rest of the country, but Hungarian restaurants have all but disappeared. I remember going to the Budapest and Hortobagy years ago and they were great. Both long gone now. Well, at least I get my dose of Hungarian food everytime I meet Mr. and Mrs. Chips up in Albany, OR to go to Novaks. Great Hungarian food in the middle of Oregon---who would have thought!
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Re:Restaurants categories facing extinction 2013/07/30 16:15:26 (permalink)
That is another one Ed
 
The Classic Diner - Stainless Steel and Porcelin (sp)
 
Around here my town has 3 Old School Coffee Shops, open at 5am and close at 2pm.  You can visit the local "mafia" at one (the old geezers that own 3/4ths of the towns buildings.  You can visit the city utility workers in the other, and the state highway guys in the 3rd.
 
They are all busy, in the morning and again around lunch.
 
I do miss the lunch counters although I have an old lady here in town that still refers to me as the little boy with the note pinned to his shirt.
 
I was 3 - 5 ish my parents had a hobby shop up the street from the local drug store lunch counter.  Mom would pin an order and money to my shirt and tell me to run to the counter.  I would run tot he counter, the ladies (which is now the OLD lady) tokk the order off my shirt gave me a coke while I waited, then handed me a bag with the food and change in it and would say "run back to your mommy Donny"  I would
 
I HATE THE NAME DONNY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Re:Restaurants categories facing extinction 2013/07/30 16:51:38 (permalink)
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That is another one Ed

The Classic Diner - Stainless Steel and Porcelin (sp)

Around here my town has 3 Old School Coffee Shops, open at 5am and close at 2pm.  You can visit the local "mafia" at one (the old geezers that own 3/4ths of the towns buildings.  You can visit the city utility workers in the other, and the state highway guys in the 3rd.

They are all busy, in the morning and again around lunch.

I do miss the lunch counters although I have an old lady here in town that still refers to me as the little boy with the note pinned to his shirt.

I was 3 - 5 ish my parents had a hobby shop up the street from the local drug store lunch counter.  Mom would pin an order and money to my shirt and tell me to run to the counter.  I would run tot he counter, the ladies (which is now the OLD lady) tokk the order off my shirt gave me a coke while I waited, then handed me a bag with the food and change in it and would say "run back to your mommy Donny"  I would

I HATE THE NAME DONNY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


 
Great story, Donny!
 
I think that name's great!
 

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