Hot!Midnight's Frozen Treats - Denver, CO (w/ build stuff)

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Midnights
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2013/10/13 11:37:21
I am starting a new food truck in Denver focused on custom ice cream. I've come up with and started testing my recipes while I'm building my truck. The build is going to require a lot of talking to the HD, as they in the process of revising their rules (so the rules aren't available to the public right now). I'll post pictures and other info as I go along.
Sun Spot
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Re:Midnight's Frozen Treats - Denver, CO (w/ build stuff) 2013/10/14 21:32:18
Read and comment (as appropriate) to get your message count up.  I think you need to post a certain number of messages to be able to post pictures.
 
Looking forward to hearing and seeing how it goes for you.
Midnights
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Re:Midnight's Frozen Treats - Denver, CO (w/ build stuff) 2013/10/14 22:37:46
Yes, I did see that. There's nothing much to post right now anyway. I just have a collection of random parts in my garage that I picked up on CraigsList (water tanks, serving window, cash register, cooler, etc.). I looked at one truck yesterday, and tried to look at another today (I couldn't get to it because the road was shut down due to flood repair).
Midnights
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Re:Midnight's Frozen Treats - Denver, CO (w/ build stuff) 2013/10/19 19:39:54
I just picked up the truck today. It's a 1981 Grumman built on a Ford (with the 351 V8). The body is completely solid. The exhaust is full of holes and is at the shop getting replaced. I'll be doing a bunch of work on the engine when I get it back (it runs, but really needs new belts and hoses). I figure I have the winter to work on it so it's ready to go come spring.
http: // denver.craigslist.org/cto/4052898767 . html



post edited by Midnights - 2013/10/27 22:55:05
CajunKing
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Re:Midnight's Frozen Treats - Denver, CO (w/ build stuff) 2013/10/19 20:10:18
Midnights - What type of custom ice cream???  Soft Serve or hard pack??
 
lots of overflow or dense and creamy??
Midnights
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Re:Midnight's Frozen Treats - Denver, CO (w/ build stuff) 2013/10/20 02:27:39
Mostly soft serve, but also hard pack.
The soft serve will be lower overrun (the amount of air) than normal. The mix will be more creamy than normal soft serve. No non-dairy, fake soft serve (although I do have a coconut flavor that is non-dairy, but it's real coconut, not that fakey soft serve stuff). The flavors will be custom, incorporating real fruit, nuts (powdered so I can run it through the machine), and other real flavors. I'll also have custom toppings (my next batch will be candied bacon crumbles and butter rum hot sauce).
The hard pack will be super premium (high cream content, low overrun). While I will be using quality ingredients, I don't have a problem using food coloring for my Blue Moon and Tiger Blood.
Midnights
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Re:Midnight's Frozen Treats - Denver, CO (w/ build stuff) 2013/10/22 16:16:02
As you might imagine, there are a lot of things on the truck that need to be replaced. For a work truck, it's fine to have it being held together with duct tape and baling wire. For a food truck, we need our trucks to be maintained to a higher standard. With that in mind, I have found the following website invaluable:
http://www.stepvanparts.com/
post edited by Midnights - 2013/11/13 21:57:18
Midnights
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Re:Midnight's Frozen Treats - Denver, CO (w/ build stuff) 2013/10/25 01:05:31
So, my regular mechanic can't fit it in his building, and it wouldn't go up on the lift if he could. I did find an RV/truck mechanic, but it's sitting in front of my house right now while I do minor stuff. I fixed the coolant hose leak and the leaky hose going into the fuel pump (so I won't end up with an empty tank again from just sitting there). The tires in the back aren't holding air ( a bolt is stuck in one and the other has a broken valve stem). I might have to get those replaced sooner than later. I had hoped to make it through the winter with those tires as I fix up the inside. Work continues. It's slow going, but I expected that. I figure I'll have it all ready to go by early spring.
post edited by Midnights - 2013/11/01 18:33:35
Midnights
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Re:Midnight's Frozen Treats - Denver, CO (w/ build stuff) 2013/10/27 21:54:44
When I bought the truck, it did not have keys for the front doors. I found this company that will make a replacement if you just give them the number stamped on the core:
https://www.ldvusa.com/do...DV-keys-order-form.pdf
I got the driver's door to unlock with the key, but not the passenger's side. I think I will have to order a replacement core from stepvanparts.com
I also worked on the broken heater core. The guy I bought the truck from had a replacement, but it isn't a direct replacement part. After tearing the old one apart, I found that the heater core that was in there wasn't OEM either. I think the jostling around in the housing might have been the reason for it breaking. The new one will bolt right to the firewall.
I also fixed the oil dipstick. The handle had broken off, and they had welded a washer to it. I put a copper plumbing cap on it and used JB-Weld to hold it on there. Then I painted the end yellow.
While I had the JB-Weld mixed, I put some in the crack in the hinge on the rear door.
post edited by Midnights - 2013/11/13 21:59:17
Midnights
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Re:Midnight's Frozen Treats - Denver, CO (w/ build stuff) 2013/10/29 00:53:21
I found this handy online calculator to figure out the power usage of my truck, to see how big of a generator I'll need.
http://cumminspowerdocs.com/CM-sizing/preview/
I plan on mounting it on the back of my truck with a mount that hooks to the truck with tow hitch receivers, so the mount can be removed.
I was thinking about this generator:
http://www.generac.com/Po.ables/GPSeries/GP17500E/
post edited by Midnights - 2013/11/13 21:59:56
Midnights
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Re:Midnight's Frozen Treats - Denver, CO (w/ build stuff) 2013/10/29 12:02:01
I found another site for parts:
http://www.cateringtruckparts.com/main.sc
post edited by Midnights - 2013/11/13 22:00:44
Midnights
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Re:Midnight's Frozen Treats - Denver, CO (w/ build stuff) 2013/11/05 20:12:36
My Facebook page is up:
https://www.facebook.com/MidnightsFrozenTreats
post edited by Midnights - 2013/11/13 21:56:35
Midnights
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Re:Midnight's Frozen Treats - Denver, CO (w/ build stuff) 2013/11/13 21:48:51
I made a mock up of the paint job.

I also went to the Denver Food Safety course today. One more hoop jumped through.
Midnights
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Re:Midnight's Frozen Treats - Denver, CO (w/ build stuff) 2013/11/14 10:52:19
Since I won't be the only one manning the truck when we go to big events, the truck needed a passenger's seat. This was what was there to start.

This is what I did. I bought a marine folding chair and a seatbelt. I reused the bracket, which still took a fair amount of ingenuity.

When I got the chair, it became obvious that in order to mount it so the passenger wouldn't bang her back on the heater assembly, I'd have to mount the seat pretty far forward. This presented two problems: 1) it would then be held on the bracket by only two screws 2) it would stick out too far into the main passageway into the truck. I solved these problems by mounting the seat on a heavy-duty shelf slide. Now it can fold up and slide out of the way when not in use.

Midnights
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Re:Midnight's Frozen Treats - Denver, CO (w/ build stuff) 2013/11/15 17:43:32
Midnights
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Re:Midnight's Frozen Treats - Denver, CO (w/ build stuff) 2013/11/24 15:49:13
I got the web hosting (through GoDaddy) straightened out and am now working on the website.
http://www.midnightsfrozentreats.com/
The WordPress theme is Restraunteur.
http://wpthemes.co.nz/restaurateur/
I went with this calender because it's simple to use and allows me to put events into categories:
http://wordpress.org/plugins/calendar/
kapowtruck
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Re:Midnight's Frozen Treats - Denver, CO (w/ build stuff) 2013/11/24 20:54:51
Looking good dude!
Midnights
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Re:Midnight's Frozen Treats - Denver, CO (w/ build stuff) 2013/12/16 00:58:00
I've solidified the winter menu recipes, so I can hit the road even before the weather warms up.
Winter Menu
  • Hot Chocolate………………………………….X.XX
    (Double Chocolate, Raspberry, Mint, Caramel, Pumpkin Spice)
  • Hot Chocolate Float…………………………..X.XX
    (Double Chocolate, Raspberry, Mint, Caramel, Pumpkin Spice)
  • Giant Rice Krispies Treats:
    • Minty Monkey (Mint Rice Krispies with a Chocolate Mint topping)
    • Sparkle Pony (Fruity Pebbles with a White Chocolate & Grape Kool-Aid topping)
    • Michilimackinac {mish-li-mack-in-aw – Ojibwa for Great Turtle} (Peanut Butter & Cocoa Krispies with a Caramel & Pecans topping)
 
Tristan225
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Re:Midnight's Frozen Treats - Denver, CO (w/ build stuff) 2013/12/17 23:59:41
Michillimackinac = mish-ill-ah-mac-in-ack or Mackinac = Mack-in-aw 
Midnights

I've solidified the winter menu recipes, so I can hit the road even before the weather warms up.
Winter Menu
  • Hot Chocolate………………………………….X.XX
    (Double Chocolate, Raspberry, Mint, Caramel, Pumpkin Spice)
  • Hot Chocolate Float…………………………..X.XX
    (Double Chocolate, Raspberry, Mint, Caramel, Pumpkin Spice)
  • Giant Rice Krispies Treats:
    • Minty Monkey (Mint Rice Krispies with a Chocolate Mint topping)
    • Sparkle Pony (Fruity Pebbles with a White Chocolate & Grape Kool-Aid topping)
    • Michilimackinac {mish-li-mack-in-aw – Ojibwa for Great Turtle} (Peanut Butter & Cocoa Krispies with a Caramel & Pecans topping)
 


post edited by Tristan225 - 2013/12/18 00:03:11
Midnights
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Re:Midnight's Frozen Treats - Denver, CO (w/ build stuff) 2013/12/18 02:40:22
Tristan225

Michillimackinac = mish-ill-ah-mac-in-ack or Mackinac = Mack-in-aw 

Some people pronounce the second "i", some don't (it gets blended into the next syllable when most people say it). In linguistics, we call this tendency "elision". Or more specifically, "syncope", as it's the muting or elimination of an unstressed vowel sound.
Only Fudgies pronounce the last syllable as "ack".
You can hear it pronounced here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zS1gqlknukA
Being born and raised in northern Michigan (my family has lived in various parts of Michigan for roughly 800 years), this is the pronunciation that I grew up with.
post edited by Midnights - 2013/12/18 12:10:55
Tristan225
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Re:Midnight's Frozen Treats - Denver, CO (w/ build stuff) 2013/12/19 01:17:16
Pretty sure i had heard the fort pronounced as "nak" before. Been going up there for 50 years (I remember visiting before everything was removed, it sucks now). 800 years, wow your family is really into genealogy. Of coarse if you are from the UP who knows how you pronounce stuff.  
Midnights
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Re:Midnight's Frozen Treats - Denver, CO (w/ build stuff) 2014/01/02 21:51:45
This truck mounted their generator very similarly to what I plan on doing.
http://raleighpublicrecor...2011/07/food-truck.jpg
http://klausies.com/photo...ry/klausiespizzatruck/
The cables are needed because I'm worried that such a large about weight (closing in on 500lbs after I put a box on it) will bend the back of the frame where the tow hitch mounts.
Midnights
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Re:Midnight's Frozen Treats - Denver, CO (w/ build stuff) 2014/01/06 21:27:47
Today I scored a Caravell 335-935 freezer for $90.

Midnights
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Re:Midnight's Frozen Treats - Denver, CO (w/ build stuff) 2014/02/06 18:14:47
I did some work on my freezer so it would suit my needs a little better. First I made a freezer blanket so I won't have to pay as much to keep it cold overnight.

The top is grey fleece. The bottom is a silver, light pleather (dance costume weight). It has two layers of standard polyester quilt batting inside as insulation.
Then I made a "cold plate".

It's just two layers of blue ice freezer packs. By using the two sizes, I was able to get them to fit almost perfectly.
post edited by Midnights - 2014/02/18 17:30:24
Midnights
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Re:Midnight's Frozen Treats - Denver, CO (w/ build stuff) 2014/02/18 17:40:04
I heard back from the health dept. on some questions. They will allow painted wood in the truck (so, I can do that for my shelving and cabinets). Speaking of cabinets, shelves, and other such equipment, this is a great place to go if you're in the Denver area:
http://budswarehouse.org/
The health dept. allows Formica for food prep, but the more I thought about it, the more I think I'll just go with stainless steel for my countertops. They are fine with the textured FRP (I was worried I would have to get the completely smooth FRP online, which would both increase the expense and the hassle). They actually really liked the check valve idea instead of the air gap (which I wasn't too keen on).
http://www.lowes.com/pd_2...2Bvalve&facetInfo=

I picked up a bunch of parts from old RVs/campers that will make it easier to rig up my water in a way that both meets code and fits with standard hook-ups. That reminds me, they will also let me use garden hose style hose for both freshwater inlet and grey water disposal (as long as they are kept separate and as long as the connectors on the truck aren't the same size; freshwater hose is the white type rated for potable water).

Earlier today, I went to a used restaurant equipment place. I might have found the rest of my equipment. Then I'll just have to get to building. I've been holding off because some of the build will be dependent on the dimensions of the equipment.
Midnights
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Re:Midnight's Frozen Treats - Denver, CO (w/ build stuff) 2014/02/19 13:17:46
After messing around with free blueprint and interior design programs, I found them more hassle than they were worth for my simple planning out of my truck layout. I started using the old fashioned graph paper method last night. I make the rectangle the appropriate size for the back of the truck, drew out my equipment and cut those pieces so I could position them in different configurations.
Then today I was looking at virtual graph paper (as that seemed like it would be easier). The first one looked promising, but it wouldn't let me reposition stuff. Then I found some directions about how to use Excel as gridpaper. I think it's an easy solution to my problem.
http://www.mrexcel.com/tip071.shtml
Midnights
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Re:Midnight's Frozen Treats - Denver, CO (w/ build stuff) 2014/02/21 00:45:15
I stopped by Restaurant Equipment Denver today. The guys were very helpful. I have my soft serve ice cream machines and my beverage cooler/refrigerator. If you're in the Denver area and need great restaurant equipment at rock-bottom prices, I recommend them. I have a bunch of other things I'll need in the next step of the build and I know I'll be going back there for them.
http://www.usedrestaurantequipmentdenver.com/
Midnights
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Re:Midnight's Frozen Treats - Denver, CO (w/ build stuff) 2014/02/21 19:17:22
I did end up getting the Generac 17500.
http://www.norwall.com/pr...0E-Electric-Start.html
After calculating my electrical needs, this was the only portable generator that could handle the load (soft serve machines need 240v and require a lot of watts). I wanted a portable generator as I will be mounting it on the back of my truck.
Midnights
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Re:Midnight's Frozen Treats - Denver, CO (w/ build stuff) 2014/02/23 14:09:25
I did the layout for the truck. The freshwater tank and water heater will go underneath the sinks and the shelf next to it.

kapowtruck
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Re:Midnight's Frozen Treats - Denver, CO (w/ build stuff) 2014/02/23 23:33:45
Looking good!
Rcoy
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Re:Midnight's Frozen Treats - Denver, CO (w/ build stuff) 2014/02/24 01:20:20
Midnights

I did the layout for the truck. The freshwater tank and water heater will go underneath the sinks and the shelf next to it.


Does the door on the reefer slide, or is it gonna interfere with the table?
RodBangkok
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Re:Midnight's Frozen Treats - Denver, CO (w/ build stuff) 2014/02/24 04:11:07
Assuming that your service window is over the work table next to the freezer, you may want to think about work flow for more than one person, it appears most of your service will be from either the soft serves or freezer, so more than one person will cross each other in front of the window a lot.  I'd probably play with having the soft serve on the opposite side from the window along with the freezer, seems quicker and closer access to your main service machines.  
Think of a fast food type counter and service area where the drinks and quick serve items are behind the service counter.
I know you have some ridiculous requirements for sinks in the states, but I'd be looking to minimize their size to the absolute min required if you already have not, perhaps a small slide out hand sink below one of the counters, thats a lot of valuable space for sinks, even though you'll probably cover them for a work surface.
Midnights
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Re:Midnight's Frozen Treats - Denver, CO (w/ build stuff) 2014/02/24 10:55:38
The refrigerator has sliding doors. Even so, I think I'm going with the 24" width on that work table. I had the three standard widths noted, with numbers at those widths (the numbers just look like dots on the above picture).
My serving window will actually be on the refrigerator side. The window I will open will be in front of the counter between the fridge and the 3 compartment sink. I know the sinks take up a lot of room, but I don't have much of a choice with my health dept. I'm already going to have to put extra wire shelf drainboard space above the sink, even though I will never have to use it with the equipment that actually gets washed, as the drainboards are technically too small. I plan on covering the sinks with cutting board material when not in use.
The work table between the freezer and soft serve machines will be the main work area. That's where the topping bar will go.
I appreciate your input. Like many on here, I'm new to this. It's great to have someplace to go where I can pick the brains of those who are already doing it.
post edited by Midnights - 2014/02/24 11:08:59
Midnights
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Re:Midnight's Frozen Treats - Denver, CO (w/ build stuff) 2014/03/01 12:54:04
A lot of work on the electrical system done. In order to power everything, I had to go with the Generac 17500.
http://www.norwall.com/pr...0E-Electric-Start.html
Doing the calculations for the amount of power I need puts me at 15,074.7 Watts. After researching it, I found that the 50 Amp plug only puts out 12,000 Watts. The folks at Generac said that to get more Watts, I would have to use both the 50 Amp plug and the 30 Amp 120/240V twistlock plug. At around 15kW, I can do this and not overload the generator (according to the info from Generac). I will be using the 50A plug to power my soft serve machines. These come in at 11,939.2W. Everything else will be on a different circuit fed by the 30A 120/240V plug. The total for that circuit is 3,135.5W. So, I will be getting two load centers to keep the circuits separate.
http://www.lowes.com/pd_1...82__?productId=1001509
I don't figure I need a breaker or a transfer switch as there are main breakers on the generator, and I will physically be unplugging the power to plug in the shore power. One thing I noticed about using those load centers is that I will need another grounding bus bar in each as I will have four lines in (two hots, a neutral, and a ground). Trusty eBay was able to solve that problem.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/400669936653
I needed an inlet box on the truck that I would be comfortable with using in the rain. I would also like it to be locking. This one fulfilled those requirements:
http://www.lowes.com/pd_2..._0__?productId=4326713
When I'm using the generator, I need to get the full amount of juice, so I got a generator cable.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1...ksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
When I'm at home, I need to be able to plug into a regular 110V outlet so I can run my freezer and keep my ice cream frozen. Since that will only draw 212W, an adapter will work. Adapters that convert a 4 wire 120/240V line to a 3 wire 120V line drop one of the hot wires, so they only have access to have the Watts. There are two ways to do this (taking some advice from the RVers). One way is to go from the inlet on the truck to a female l14-30 plug.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/360846649967
Then put that plug on a regular range/RV 50 Amp plug.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/N...50V-6-Fee/131005782232
Then plug that into a 50 Amp to 30 Amp RV dogbone adapter.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/R...emale-12-/370453019865
Then plug the 30 Amp RV connector into a 110V adapter.
http://www.campingworld.c...amp-male-adapter/69604
Alternatively, I could have gotten the 30A 120/240V female spinlock (L14-30R) to 30A 120V male spinlock (L5-30P) adapter.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0091UEVL4/
Then a 30A 120V spinlock female to 30A RV.
http://www.campingworld.c...30-amp-connector/31550
Or 30A 120V spinlock female to 15A regular male end.
http://www.campingworld.c...-power-smart-led/69586
post edited by Midnights - 2014/03/01 13:15:42
Midnights
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Re:Midnight's Frozen Treats - Denver, CO (w/ build stuff) 2014/03/01 13:10:22
For the 50W plug, it's a little more straight-forward. I had to get a HUBBELL HBL9451C end to plug into the generator. Due to its orientation, a regular NEMA 14-50 plug that doesn't come straight out wouldn't have worked. I needed one that would lock in with the locking mechanism on the generator (so it wouldn't work itself loose). http://www.amazon.com/Hub...HBL9451C/dp/B000TKF84E
The Amazon reviews were very helpful with this. I go from that to a regular RV outlet box.
http://www.amazon.com/Con...40-Volt/dp/B0009R5JRS/
That allowed me to just have a range cord going from the truck to the outlet on the generator box.
http://www.amazon.com/Col...-Supply/dp/B0002YURAW/
I ripped the guts out of a service disconnect switch box I bought at the used construction equipment store for $5. This will allow me to store the 50A wire away when not in use. It's also lockable, so I can keep it connected and not have to worry about people messing with it.

I cut a path to the bottom middle knock-out and filed the edges smooth. This allows me to close the box while the cord is being used. I have a hole drilled in the top (under the top mounting screw) so I can pass the cord through the back and into the truck. I have grommets for the hole in the box and the hole in the truck, so it's watertight. I was thinking about running a pipe nipple through the hole instead, with lock nuts on either side.
post edited by Midnights - 2014/03/01 20:54:49
Midnights
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Re:Midnight's Frozen Treats - Denver, CO (w/ build stuff) 2014/03/01 15:33:10
This link talks about someone else trying to convert a 30A 120/240V spinlock to a 30A 120V RV outlet:
http://www.wakeworld.com/...howthread.php?t=791440
Midnights
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Re:Midnight's Frozen Treats - Denver, CO (w/ build stuff) 2014/03/01 20:01:48
I started demoing the inside today. Here is what was in there to start with:

Here is what I did today:

Midnights
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Re:Midnight's Frozen Treats - Denver, CO (w/ build stuff) 2014/03/05 00:20:10
Generator came today. It is large, but I knew it would be. It's also fairly loud, but I assumed it would be, so I had already planned on building a sound dampening enclosure. You can see the cargo carrier it will sit on in the background.

kapowtruck
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Re:Midnight's Frozen Treats - Denver, CO (w/ build stuff) 2014/03/05 22:28:09
Hey Midnight,
 
How are you powering your freezers while driving?
Midnights
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Re:Midnight's Frozen Treats - Denver, CO (w/ build stuff) 2014/03/05 22:46:09
I haven't decided yet (as it will depend on what the health department tells me). If they will allow me, the "cold plate" of blue ice packets should keep it frozen for the short drives around town. If not, I'll have to keep the generator running while I'm driving.
Further down the road, I might install a battery pack with an inverter, but I don't plan on it to start out (especially not if I can get away with just using the "cold plate" for driving around).
kapowtruck
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Re:Midnight's Frozen Treats - Denver, CO (w/ build stuff) 2014/03/06 17:32:46
Yea i'm looking for an inverter to keep my fridge cold while moving from my commissary to  my spot.
Midnights
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Re:Midnight's Frozen Treats - Denver, CO (w/ build stuff) 2014/03/08 18:45:10
Inside of the truck is cleaned out. It took longer than I thought it would.

Midnights
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Re:Midnight's Frozen Treats - Denver, CO (w/ build stuff) 2014/03/22 11:34:22
I went to pick up my equipment yesterday and they messed up my order. They had fixed up the wrong beverage cooler and ice cream machine. Luckily, the right ones were still in the warehouse. They are throwing in a stainless steel work table for free because of the mix-up. That does mean that I can't try out my soft-serve recipes this weekend.
 
Although that has been held up by my base mix supplier as well. The original dairy I was going to go with has shut down and Dean Foods (the parent company) shifted production to the local Meadow Gold facility. Meadow Gold hasn't gotten back to me. I've tried contacting them through email, their contact form, and through Dean Foods. The Dean Foods folks did get back to me almost immediately and said they'd check into it for me.

I have also been on the look-out for 3 gallon ice cream tubs. As I have a truck and need to use a commissary kitchen, space is at a premium. I don't have space to store pallets of empty tubs. I found a few suppliers that make square box tubs that ship flat. This should end up being cheaper, and solves my storage issue. These are the companies I've found:
http://www.rynonepackaging.com/Products/IcecreamBoxes.asp
http://www.negusboxnbag.com/ice_cream.html
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Rapamar-Container/1398852023677454
post edited by Midnights - 2014/06/07 23:06:34
kapowtruck
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Re:Midnight's Frozen Treats - Denver, CO (w/ build stuff) 2014/03/22 23:06:53
Oh yea I have Generac 6500E and runs like a champ get about 11 hours out it before I need to fill it up~
 
its not too loud compared to those on harbor freight but def not quiet like a honda.
Midnights
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Re:Midnight's Frozen Treats - Denver, CO (w/ build stuff) 2014/03/31 19:08:06
I heard back from the dairy. They do have premium frozen custard mix that will work. So, I can bring the Midwestern tradition of good frozen custard to the Rockies.
Midnights
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Re:Midnight's Frozen Treats - Denver, CO (w/ build stuff) 2014/05/22 14:37:56
I am continuing to work on the truck (now that finals are done and I have some time). I am trying to fix the ceiling. I decided to keep the aluminum ceiling that is already up there, but it needs some repair. In looking for fasteners, it really showed how annoying such things are to find. Every company and store call them something different: nylon rivets, Tap-It nylon fasteners, nail-in rivet, drive anchor, pin drive anchor, etc. I finally found some on eBay, but it was a whole lot harder than I thought it would be.
 
Midnights
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Re:Midnight's Frozen Treats - Denver, CO (w/ build stuff) 2014/06/01 21:18:21
After a lot of thought, I decided to frame out the truck with wood, similar to what I've seen PacMob do.

The studs are screwed to the walls using lathe screws.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Teks-8-x-1-in-Zinc-Plated-Steel-Truss-Head-Phillips-Lath-Screws-170-Pack-21508/100142621?N=5yc1vZc2d6Z4qi
I have plugged most of the holes in the walls using large flange rivets, and have Bondoed the other ones (with aluminum duct tape in the inside, so the holes don't pop through).
Midnights
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Re:Midnight's Frozen Treats - Denver, CO (w/ build stuff) 2014/06/07 22:51:42
A bunch of work done.







 
Midnights
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Re:Midnight's Frozen Treats - Denver, CO (w/ build stuff) 2014/06/07 22:56:32
I still need to caulk it in, but it looks like it will rain, so that will have to wait. I bought some cellulose PVC trim, as it won't rot and is easy to glue on. I'll be putting on the serving shelf at the same time as the trim.
The Bondo work is all done. The little spots were easy. I backed them with aluminum tape, so they won't pop out. Of course the place I'm going to paint with blackboard paint for my menu board is right where there was a huge gouge. It's done now, but it took a lot more doing than I thought it would.
The electrical wasn't too bad. I do like that I'm allowed to run it behind the wall. I think it looks cleaner, and is ultimately easier. I will have two panel boxes. One will be for all of the 110v stuff, and one just for the 240v ice cream machines.
Midnights
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Re:Midnight's Frozen Treats - Denver, CO (w/ build stuff) 2014/06/12 21:46:00
I was just doing the calculations for my breakers and found out that my water heater needs a 25amp breaker. This will require that outlet being rewired with 10 gauge wire. I'm really glad I didn't close up that side of the truck yet.
So, of course, neither Lowes nor Home Depot carry a 25A breaker for my box. The woman at Home Depot at least suggested places I might locate one. The guy at Lowes just shrugged and walked off. I did locate them online, from Toro Tools, for a reasonable price.
I also figured out a way to connect my 6 gauge wire coming from the generator cord to the line into my box. Split bolts were too bulky, and the insulated connectors (like those made by Polaris) are too expensive.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2...ksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
I will cover that in heat-shrink tubing. That will give me a solid, mechanical connection that will easily and safely fit in the space available.
post edited by Midnights - 2014/06/12 21:49:54
Midnights
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Re:Midnight's Frozen Treats - Denver, CO (w/ build stuff) 2014/06/25 23:52:17
Window is all trimmed out and serving shelf is installed.

240 line is hooked up. I couldn't find heat shrink tubing big enough, so I had the go the old route: three layers of thick electrical tape, then two layers of rubber "tape", and finished with two layers of regular electrical tape.


FRP almost finished on the walls. Lights are all installed (and work perfectly).



It looks like I'll be getting my second ice cream machine. I hope.
I did pick up the frozen custard mix so I can see how Meadow Gold did with what I asked. I'm also getting the Blue Moon flavoring shipped to me, so I can see how that stacks up to my requirements.
fishscale28
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Re:Midnight's Frozen Treats - Denver, CO (w/ build stuff) 2014/06/29 06:13:13
Just curious but why don't you make your own frozen custard/ice cream base?  You come across as someone who knows so much about everything-just figured you'd be making your own base for what you're building this truck for........
Midnights
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Re:Midnight's Frozen Treats - Denver, CO (w/ build stuff) 2014/06/29 16:14:48
Because in order to make my own base mix, I would need a pasteurizer and a bunch of other equipment and storage that isn't feasible right now. It's one of the few things that is annoying about the local health code regulations. Most of the stuff is reasonable, and the people are pretty easy to work with. I might be able to convince them to change the regulations, since the milk and cream is already pasteurized, and the eggs are cooked in the tempering process. But, that will take time and energy I don't have to spend right now.
fishscale28
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Re:Midnight's Frozen Treats - Denver, CO (w/ build stuff) 2014/07/01 18:29:38
You're HD requires special equipment to pasteurize?  All you need is to follow the time/temp standards and you'd be good to go.  Have a cold fridge to store your stuff and you'd be set
Midnights
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Re:Midnight's Frozen Treats - Denver, CO (w/ build stuff) 2014/07/17 14:57:07
Yes, they require a commercial-grade pasteurizer.
SplitMyBanana
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Re:Midnight's Frozen Treats - Denver, CO (w/ build stuff) 2014/07/18 12:26:40
Midnight-great stuff working on a build myself. Newb question as I'm new to a lot of this.

I'm using 3/16 luan for walls with frp over it. Did you leave spacing gaps between plywood sheets? Also did you leave the 1/16 gap on the top/bottom of the frp as recommended?
post edited by SplitMyBanana - 2014/07/18 14:27:43
Midnights
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Re:Midnight's Frozen Treats - Denver, CO (w/ build stuff) 2014/07/21 20:57:35
I didn't leave any space between the luan plywood. The frp is cut so the seams don't match up. The luan was cut so the seams fell right on the center of the studs. There was no need to do that with the FRP. I left a gap at the top of the FRP to put the trim on, but not on the bottom. I have to glue vinyl coved base trim all along the bottom, so there was no need.
SplitMyBanana
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Re:Midnight's Frozen Treats - Denver, CO (w/ build stuff) 2014/07/23 22:02:52
Thanks!