Unusual ship on the Tennessee River

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Sundancer7
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Unusual ship on the Tennessee River - Fri, 10/25/13 12:02 PM
I reside at mile marker 641 on the Tennessee River.  I see all kinds of unusual vessels going up and down the Tennessee from 20 million dollar yachts to barges and many other vessels but yesterday was the strangest of all.  I saw a replica of the Nina and Pinta going up river for a week long visit to Knoxville.  Very very interesting. 
 
 
Paul E. Smith
Knoxville, TN
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Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River - Fri, 10/25/13 1:04 PM
Very cool !

I saw these when they were in Columbus, Ohio,
and was amazed that anyone would attempt to cross an ocean in something
That small.

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Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River - Fri, 10/25/13 1:13 PM
The Santa Maria copy is moored permanently in downtown Columbus on the Scioto River.

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Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River - Fri, 10/25/13 1:14 PM
That is very cool Paul.  I would have just sat there and been fascinated by it.  Thank you for sharing!

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Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River - Fri, 10/25/13 1:17 PM
Being retired from the Navy, it always amazes me as to what men sailed on many years ago. And to think we would  moan and complain if we couldn't take a shower for a couple days or the A/C was down for one. Or as always the chow!

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Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River - Fri, 10/25/13 1:26 PM
Very cool!  I remember when the Tall Ships came to Boston, I lived about 1 block from Boston Harbor and we all sat there for hours, mesmerized, watching these beautiful ships sail past us!

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Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River - Fri, 10/25/13 2:10 PM
Looks like they've been making the rounds.  They were here, in little Winona MN twice in July, going up and down the Mississippi.  The stop here was sponsored by the local state university.
 
The boats are docked at what is left of our once beautiful levee, close to downtown.  (The city is trying to revitalize, both the levee and the downtown.)
 
Winona is the home of Bloedow's (play-doughs) Bakery, Roadfood reviewed and recently named the best donut shop in Minnesota.
 
Buffetbuster has reviewed them in trip reports too.  WWBBD?  He'd stop at Bloedow's!
 
http://www.winonadailynews.com/news/local/collection_9b024ac6-eff0-11e2-82e5-0019bb2963f4.html#1
 
A little background on the boats:
 
http://www.thenina.com/
 
Sadly, we had a little skullduggery while they were here, but looks like no final harm done.
 
http://www.winonadailynews.com/news/local/article_a8cfd7f2-99fb-11df-a42a-001cc4c002e0.html
 
 
http://www.winonadailynews.com/news/article_70ffab14-f410-11e2-989e-001a4bcf887a.html
 

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Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River - Fri, 10/25/13 2:32 PM
Paul, Don't know if they were the same ships, but I saw all three at Megan's Bay in St. Thomas years ago.  They were filming a movie.

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Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River - Fri, 10/25/13 2:38 PM
At the start of the space age in 1969 or so a professor told me that the Nina was the greatest ship of exploration ever built. It was very small but took storms well. It made 8 or 9 trips to the new world, and we can only guess what it looked like. A diary writer tells the story of a ship, thought to be the Nina, returning from it's final trip to the new world, decks awash, and sinking immediately after docking. The Pinta and Santa Maria were not so great.
 
The prof got his wish when a space shuttle was named Enterprise, but he didn't get one named Nina.  

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Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River - Fri, 10/25/13 2:59 PM
fishtaco


Being retired from the Navy, it always amazes me as to what men sailed on many years ago. And to think we would  moan and complain if we couldn't take a shower for a couple days or the A/C was down for one. Or as always the chow!


Iron men and wooden ships indeed! 

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Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River - Fri, 10/25/13 3:54 PM
WarToad

Iron men and wooden ships indeed! 

Like you are channeling my dad, the captain.

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Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River - Fri, 10/25/13 9:12 PM
How did they get it from Spain all the way up the TN River????????????

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Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River - Fri, 10/25/13 9:54 PM
Foodbme


How did they get it from Spain all the way up the TN River????????????

The usual way. Up the Mississippi to the Ohio and up the Ohio to the Tennessee.


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Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River - Fri, 10/25/13 10:45 PM
So Michael...
 
Where were you stationed on that ship??

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Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River - Sat, 10/26/13 12:14 PM
I served as Chief Boatswains Mate.

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Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River - Sat, 10/26/13 7:31 PM
I crewed on the replica of Sir Francis Drake's Golden Hinde that they made in honor of his 1573 circumnavigation of the globe. Pretty awesome. The overnight trip down the CA coast was amazing, especially going up to the crow's nest in the morning and looking DOWN at the sails with a Maltese Cross on each sail and dolphins off the bow.
Golden Hinde 
I also had a chance to tour the replica of the Endeavour, Captain Cook's vessel. What was amazing that all his discoveries, sailing around Australia, Hawaii and more, were done on a ship that was 65 feet long. To put it in perspective, that is shorter than a standard tractor-trailer rig used for long-distance trips. 
HMB Endeavour
 
I saw this in San Diego on Sept. 22nd. I wish I'd had time to explore it, but it made a nice photo from the deck of the cruise ship I was on. 
HMS Surprise

 
Of course, it was interesting to compare to the ship next to it---not a replica, but the real Star of India, the  oldest active sailing ship, from 1863. 

 
I do love ships and sailing!

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Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River - Sat, 10/26/13 9:22 PM
Ed
I love ships and sailing too.  When I lived in Boston I had a 26' Grampian.  A heavy blue-water boat that couldn't win a race if she tried but it was fun sailing her from Boston Harbor up to Marblehead or down to Scituate!

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Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River - Sat, 10/26/13 10:58 PM
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Foodbme


How did they get it from Spain all the way up the TN River????????????

The usual way. Up the Mississippi to the Ohio and up the Ohio to the Tennessee.

Where does the Ohio connect to the Tennessee?

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Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River - Sun, 10/27/13 12:25 AM
Foodbme


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Foodbme


How did they get it from Spain all the way up the TN River????????????

The usual way. Up the Mississippi to the Ohio and up the Ohio to the Tennessee.

Where does the Ohio connect to the Tennessee?

 
From the TVA......
Navigation Aids


on the Tennessee River System


There are many different traffic signs along the Tennessee River waterway to help boaters navigate safely. These vary depending on whether they are located along commercial navigation or secondary channels of the Tennessee River or on tributary (storage) reservoirs.
The main channel of the Tennessee River is 652 miles long. It was designed for commercial navigation and provides safe passage for barges from Knoxville, Tennessee, to the Ohio River at Paducah, Kentucky.  


http://www.tva.gov/river/navigation_aids.pdf

 
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Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River - Sun, 10/27/13 1:00 AM
lleechef


Ed
I love ships and sailing too.  When I lived in Boston I had a 26' Grampian.  A heavy blue-water boat that couldn't win a race if she tried but it was fun sailing her from Boston Harbor up to Marblehead or down to Scituate!

 
Lisa,
That boat certainly had classic style. I found plenty of pics---they must have offered them with a dark hull in some years and it was a good looking boat. Must have been a blast sailing up there!
 
 

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Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River - Sun, 10/27/13 7:07 AM
Foodbme


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Foodbme


How did they get it from Spain all the way up the TN River????????????

The usual way. Up the Mississippi to the Ohio and up the Ohio to the Tennessee.

Where does the Ohio connect to the Tennessee?

 
The Tennessee River connects with the Ohio in Paducah, KY.  As EdSails indicated the Tennessee is 652 miles in Length and I reside at mile Marker 641.  The navigational aide is located directly across the river from me.
 
I had two sail boats and the one I used the most was a Hunter 25.  Fun to sail but not a competative racer.  I use to race every weekend.  I always came in Last
Paul E. Smith
Knoxville, TN

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Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River - Sun, 10/27/13 10:33 AM
Foodbme


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Foodbme


How did they get it from Spain all the way up the TN River????????????

The usual way. Up the Mississippi to the Ohio and up the Ohio to the Tennessee.

Where does the Ohio connect to the Tennessee?

At Paducah, Kentucky.

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Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River - Sun, 10/27/13 12:20 PM
Sundancer7

I had two sail boats and the one I used the most was a Hunter 25.  Fun to sail but not a competative racer.  I use to race every weekend.  I always came in Last 
Paul E. Smith
Knoxville, TN

 
You know I disagree with you on that, Paul. My Hunter 25.5 won a lot of races. Someday we're going to have to find an old Hunter some place, get together, and see how fast we go!


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Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River - Sun, 10/27/13 12:32 PM
With Ed at the helm you two will be flying! 

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Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River - Sun, 10/27/13 1:04 PM
EdSails


Sundancer7

I had two sail boats and the one I used the most was a Hunter 25.  Fun to sail but not a competative racer.  I use to race every weekend.  I always came in Last 
Paul E. Smith
Knoxville, TN


You know I disagree with you on that, Paul. My Hunter 25.5 won a lot of races. Someday we're going to have to find an old Hunter some place, get together, and see how fast we go!


 
EdSails:  As I recall the Hunter 25.5 was a total redesign?  Much different and more sleek than my 25 and obviously much faster.  Then again it could have been the sailor of my 25???
 
Paul E. Smith
Knoxville, TN


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Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River - Sun, 10/27/13 5:56 PM
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Sundancer7

I had two sail boats and the one I used the most was a Hunter 25.  Fun to sail but not a competative racer.  I use to race every weekend.  I always came in Last 
Paul E. Smith
Knoxville, TN


You know I disagree with you on that, Paul. My Hunter 25.5 won a lot of races. Someday we're going to have to find an old Hunter some place, get together, and see how fast we go!



EdSails:  As I recall the Hunter 25.5 was a total redesign?  Much different and more sleek than my 25 and obviously much faster.  Then again it could have been the sailor of my 25???

Paul E. Smith
Knoxville, TN

 
Ok, I'll go with the redesign. Mine was the first one with a lead keel and it really held good even under pushing the sails. But I bet you're fast on your powerboat!

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Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River - Sun, 10/27/13 6:47 PM
EdSails:  The SeaRay that I owned and sold was a 27 with a 455 engine that got three gas stations per mile.  I bought it new and factory delivered.  I had it for several years and the 455 engine was a cold mother.  Started hard, smoked lither a mother and ran like a top.  After my wife passed, I was tired with keeping it clean and waxed.  I bought a 21 foot Regal with instant start.  Easy to clean and will do about 55 MPH and fuel consumption is much much less.  I keep it on a lift and out of the water and it is waxed and cleaned two times per year.
 
Much more skill is in sailing but the Regal is so easy to handle.  My grandboys use it for skiing.  I rarely use it.  As a matter of fact I have had it out 0 times this year although I have had it waxed and cleaned and winterized already.  Come on winter.
 
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Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River - Sun, 10/27/13 11:38 PM
Well we are supposedly getting snow in the mountains here tomorrow. Guess that means winter...until it goes up to 80 degrees in mid November!

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Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River - Sun, 10/27/13 11:38 PM
Well we are supposedly getting snow in the mountains here tomorrow. Guess that means winter...until it goes up to 80 degrees in mid November!

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Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River - Thu, 10/31/13 1:58 PM
We once had an ODay 25 of the keel centerboard design. It did not sail as well as the keel version, but I could often find a place to anchor, in shallow water, where others could not. My best place, though, was the former Coast Guard dock at Cuttyhunk. I had permission to use it, because my Marine Corps reserve unit did work with the Coasties. The dock has since been sold, and is now private.
 
Sometimes, big expensive boats would tailgate me into foggy Cuttyhunk, thinking that I had a keel. I had loran, and knew where I was (sort of), but a 24 inch draft boat is not a good pathfinder for a 5 or 6 ft draft power yacht.

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Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River - Thu, 10/31/13 2:19 PM
The sailboat club that I was a member of had a wonderful beautiful site on the Tennessee River.  It was wide and long but there was a sandbar not too far from the dock and occasionaly one of the members would get hung up there.  They would have to buy a case of beer for the club.  I never got hung up there though.  Perhaps I was too slow to make it???
 
My brother had a 25 O'day and quite frankly, it was a bit like my 25 Hunter, slow and lunky although he had more sails than me.
 
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Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River - Thu, 10/31/13 6:02 PM
My Loran would tell me I was in Bermuda when I was entering Boston Harbor!  Good thing I knew where the yacht club was!  And the mooring.

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Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River - Thu, 10/31/13 6:51 PM
lleechef


My Loran would tell me I was in Bermuda when I was entering Boston Harbor!  Good thing I knew where the yacht club was!  And the mooring.

 
I guess that is the reason that everybody has a GPS.  I have one on my boat although I rarely use the boat.  I have them in all my vehicles.
 
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Knoxville, TN


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Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River - Thu, 10/31/13 8:30 PM
Give me a map and a depth chart and I'm all set.

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Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River - Thu, 10/31/13 11:31 PM
The closest I ever came to being an active boater, was the evening I took Helen Seixxxx, my Prom Date, to watch the Submarine Races on the Los Angeles River after the Prom ended. December 1959. You L A folks know what an adventure that could have been !!!  
 
if you are not familiar with the L A area, think of the drag race scene in the original  "GREASE" Movie.  That's the L A River !
 
 

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Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River - Fri, 11/1/13 5:47 AM
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The closest I ever came to being an active boater, was the evening I took Helen Seixxxx, my Prom Date, to watch the Submarine Races on the Los Angeles River after the Prom ended. December 1959. You L A folks know what an adventure that could have been !!!  

if you are not familiar with the L A area, think of the drag race scene in the original  "GREASE" Movie.  That's the L A River ! 
  
 

Al: 1959?? I am proud of you recalling your dates name. I recall my proms but not the dates.

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Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River - Fri, 11/1/13 8:55 AM
I'm not a sailor but have sailed in Narragansett Bay in Rhode Island, San Diego Bay in California and the British Virgin Islands. Other than that it has been "sailing" in the US Navy, motor boating on Lake Minnetonka and mostly paddling canoes and kayaks of late.

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Re:Unusual ship on the Tennessee River - Sat, 11/2/13 9:33 AM
That picture of the Star of India brings back memories. When I was stationed in Cali we visited San Diego a few times, and would usually eat at least once at Anthony's, which is virtually under the Star's bowsprit. You can see part of it in that picture. I haven't been there in 25 years, but it used to be awfully good eating.