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Michael Hoffman
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The World's Hottest Pepper - Fri, 12/27/13 11:38 AM
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So, are you ready to try the world's hottest pepper? The proprietor of The PuckerButt Pepper Company in Fort Mill, South Carolina, Ed Currie, has grown the Carolina Reaper, which clocked in at 2.2 million Scoville units.
 http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/national_world/2013/12/27/s-c--mans-peppers-worlds-hottest.html
 
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/12/27/newser-hottest-pepper/4217551/

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Re:The World's Hottest Pepper - Fri, 12/27/13 1:21 PM
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Gonna pass.  I think at that level they're bred for LEO/military tactical gas application.  I like habaneros, but beyond that the heat drowns out flavor.
 
And remember kids, at that heat level, you have to endure it a second time upon it's natural exit.  Your GI system will not break it all down.

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Re:The World's Hottest Pepper - Fri, 12/27/13 3:44 PM
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I'm guessing here, but I'm thinking that's why it's called The PuckerButt Pepper Company.

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Re:The World's Hottest Pepper - Fri, 12/27/13 3:50 PM
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Michael...I don't understand...maybe you could draw me a picture?

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Re:The World's Hottest Pepper - Fri, 12/27/13 4:03 PM
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Nah, I flunked art in fourth grade. It was something about a color being analgesic, androgynous or analogous, or something like that.

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Re:The World's Hottest Pepper - Fri, 12/27/13 7:14 PM
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Jalapeno is as hot as I go.  I go through about a dozen a week.  I use them in beans, greens and many other things.  When it gets too hot, it overpowers everything.
 
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Re:The World's Hottest Pepper - Fri, 12/27/13 7:19 PM
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Sure they aren't calling it the Grim Reaper? That stuff'll do you in!

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Re:The World's Hottest Pepper - Fri, 12/27/13 8:29 PM
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I guess the guy was growing them to get into the Guinness Book of World Records because a pepper that hot certainly is not edible!  I agree that a certain amount of hot is good but too much overpowers everything.

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Re:The World's Hottest Pepper - Fri, 12/27/13 11:01 PM
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A friend at work wanted me to try some ghost pepper salsa. After enough to just color 1/3 of the chip, I couldn't even eat a bite of my lunch. And yessir "PuckerButt" is a great name and description. 

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Re:The World's Hottest Pepper - Sat, 12/28/13 8:13 AM
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This race for the "Scoville Unit Cup" reminds me of the arms race in the Cold War, part of which was "who could build the biggest bomb". 
 
After the Soviets set off a 100 megaton test it was discovered that 100 megatons was only barely more destructive than 15.
 
As far as biting a pepper, a Serrano is as far as I will go.  As an ingredient, a judicious use of Habanero is my limit.  Anything beyond falls into the Johnny Knoxville/"Jackass" category and I don't play there.

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Re:The World's Hottest Pepper - Sat, 12/28/13 10:21 AM
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Sundancer7


Jalapeno is as hot as I go.  I go through about a dozen a week.  I use them in beans, greens and many other things.  When it gets too hot, it overpowers everything.

Paul E. Smith
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Eh...not really.  We eat peppers that are much hotter than jalapenos with alot of our food.  Many super hot peppers have excellent fruity flavors...especially when eaten raw.

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Re:The World's Hottest Pepper - Sat, 12/28/13 10:25 AM
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Texascajun


A friend at work wanted me to try some ghost pepper salsa. After enough to just color 1/3 of the chip, I couldn't even eat a bite of my lunch. And yessir "PuckerButt" is a great name and description. 

Friends of ours in Florida made some Venezuelan/Caribbean pepper sauce and used ghosts...I used it on some arepas they also made.  It was one of the better pepper sauces I've ever tasted...I kept adding it.
 
It REALLY is in how you use it. 

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Re:The World's Hottest Pepper - Sat, 12/28/13 11:54 PM
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That sounds correct. I can only imagine the ratio of ghost peppers to other ingredients that he used making the salsa. It was almost like acid on my tongue and I LOVE spicy food. I would love to try some of the fruity flavored hot sauces even if super spicy and I will someday.

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Re:The World's Hottest Pepper - Sun, 12/29/13 11:53 AM
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I use 1 ghost chile to make 3 quarts of salsa and it makes it extremely hot. They have a great flavor but have to be respected and used judiciously.

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Re:The World's Hottest Pepper - Sun, 12/29/13 3:01 PM
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Many a good dish has been ruined with over the top Hot. I grew the worlds hottest pepper last year, can't remember the name but it wasn't PuckerButt or Ghost.
Small attractive pepper shaped similar to a Habenero.
One plant beared a lot of fruit.
 
When people talk about eating extreme hot, it is nothing more than bragging rights.

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Re:The World's Hottest Pepper - Sun, 12/29/13 7:39 PM
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I eat habis and cook with them, have used ghosts in cooking too. I don't see a problem with something hotter than a ghost, each level of heat brings another level of flavor. It is also a very compact way to season a very large amount of food. With super hot peppers you just use an amount small enough to keep the heat bearable, this will help you experience the added nuances without catching on fire at both ends.

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Re:The World's Hottest Pepper - Sun, 12/29/13 11:56 PM
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Why anyone grows and eats all these different kinds of hot peppers is beyond my level of comprehension.

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Re:The World's Hottest Pepper - Mon, 12/30/13 12:16 PM
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Foodbme


Why anyone grows and eats all these different kinds of hot peppers is beyond my level of comprehension.

Because most of them are very tasty.  It's not all about heat.

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Re:The World's Hottest Pepper - Mon, 12/30/13 12:22 PM
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DougS


Many a good dish has been ruined with over the top Hot. I grew the worlds hottest pepper last year, can't remember the name but it wasn't PuckerButt or Ghost.
Small attractive pepper shaped similar to a Habenero.
One plant beared a lot of fruit.

When people talk about eating extreme hot, it is nothing more than bragging rights.

The pepper you grew was a Moruga Scorpion...a kicked up version of the Trinidad Scorpion (a former "hottest in the world" pepper). 
 
I think your comment about bragging rights is dead on...and way off base.  I feel you're right when you start talking about hot sauces that use extracts.  That junk is nothing but heat, and I think it's stupid (for me). 
 
When talking about real pepper sauce...made fresh with fresh veggies...it's about flavor and not bragging rights.
 
We have a batch of sauce we mixed up a couple of months ago that had close to a dozen different peppers in it.  Some of those included chocolate habs, Trini Scorpions, red & yellow ghosts, and a plethera of other hots & super hots.  The sauce itself isn't "blow your head off" by any means...but it IS packed with flavor and a great heat level. 

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Re:The World's Hottest Pepper - Mon, 12/30/13 7:47 PM
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JayL


DougS


Many a good dish has been ruined with over the top Hot. I grew the worlds hottest pepper last year, can't remember the name but it wasn't PuckerButt or Ghost.
Small attractive pepper shaped similar to a Habenero.
One plant beared a lot of fruit.

When people talk about eating extreme hot, it is nothing more than bragging rights.

The pepper you grew was a Moruga Scorpion...a kicked up version of the Trinidad Scorpion (a former "hottest in the world" pepper). 

I think your comment about bragging rights is dead on...and way off base.  I feel you're right when you start talking about hot sauces that use extracts.  That junk is nothing but heat, and I think it's stupid (for me). 

When talking about real pepper sauce...made fresh with fresh veggies...it's about flavor and not bragging rights.

We have a batch of sauce we mixed up a couple of months ago that had close to a dozen different peppers in it.  Some of those included chocolate habs, Trini Scorpions, red & yellow ghosts, and a plethera of other hots & super hots.  The sauce itself isn't "blow your head off" by any means...but it IS packed with flavor and a great heat level. 

I agree! I did make a batch once that would melt through styrofoam and red solo cups but that was in the beginning of my experimentation with peppers, since then I've come to appreciate different things about them.

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Re:The World's Hottest Pepper - Tue, 12/31/13 9:47 PM
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I have a tub of Habenero Cheese Dip in the fridge as we speak.
 
For Christmas I got a tube of Ghost Pepper Flakes (like the red pepper flakes found in the little shaker at your local pizza place)
 
I have several Trinidad Scorpions dried waiting for some creative use.  As for the Carolina Reaper, I will eventually get to try it, just for the sake of saying I did it.
 
 

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Re:The World's Hottest Pepper - Tue, 12/31/13 11:36 PM
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Bought two blocks of habanero cheddar last week, which was rather ambitious.  After one small slice, I gave both blocks to a neighbor who eats them like a candy bar.

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Re:The World's Hottest Pepper - Wed, 01/1/14 1:40 PM
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You're not alone, MR. I suspect my reaction would have been the same. Jalepeno is as hot as I can go and, then, very cautiously. Otherwise, I just have to admire those who can eat very hot peppers or tell them that they are nuts. It's just a matter of taste and tolerance, I suppose. I know I have to be more cautious of spice and heat than I was in the past. Just cannot digest as well as I used to. Just keeps coming back, and back.

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Re:The World's Hottest Pepper - Wed, 01/1/14 4:27 PM
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I like the hots, but it's too much for me to deal with them in my own kitchen; I'll get forgetful and rub my eye, and then it's all over.

I agree with those who say the hotter peppers have great flavor. Melinda's makes a line of sauces with various (former) record holders, and each has a different set of nuances: ghost tastes different from scorpion tastes different from naga jolokia tastes different from savina. None of them are "stupid" like the insanity extracts, all are recognizable as food products. Each mush be used cautiously, though, a little bit seasons a lot of food.

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Re:The World's Hottest Pepper - Fri, 01/3/14 9:38 AM
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The seed catalogs are coming in fast now. Most have seeds for really hot peppers.....they seem to be in style right now. There also seem to be more peppers in general. 
 
I always plant a few kinds, and usually try something "new", but like Mosca, I avoid the ones that require that they be handled with plastic gloves.

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Re:The World's Hottest Pepper - Fri, 01/3/14 6:16 PM
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 I've got about a 5 year old unopened bottle of an extract that claimed to be the world's hottest (at the time). It is iodine shaped with a dropper inside. It was given to me as a gift because I "love hot food".  For the life of me I don't know what to do with it. I've got a recipe for a Melinda's-type XXX hot sauce. I make up a batch that will last me for the year and that's all I need. I supplement that with an occasional use of Sambal Olek. I love hot foods but now it's all about taste not bragging rights. Those are for drunk college age parties.

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Re:The World's Hottest Pepper - Sat, 01/4/14 10:01 AM
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My boss grows a variety of super hots each year and makes sauce. I'm fortunate enough to get a bottle or two each year. Last year he grew Scorpions, and the sauce was a nice yellow color...it's been the best bottle out of what I've received so far.....very hot, but very flavorful.
 
I make my own Sriracha when I can get fresh peppers at the Farmers Market, I like the Rooster brand but my homemade is better in my opinion.....I always have dried Savina or Ghost powder around, I use them for a super hot Jerky recipe I came up with a few years ago. I call it Armageddon......

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Re:The World's Hottest Pepper - Sat, 01/4/14 11:42 AM
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My boss grows a variety of super hots each year and makes sauce. I'm fortunate enough to get a bottle or two each year. Last year he grew Scorpions, and the sauce was a nice yellow color...it's been the best bottle out of what I've received so far.....very hot, but very flavorful.

Does he use alot of mustard?  Scorpions are red, that's why I ask. 
 
Did he grow regular Scorps or Moruga Scorpions?

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Re:The World's Hottest Pepper - Wed, 01/8/14 7:33 PM
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I just looked at the bottle to see what his label says....."Devil's Tongue" is what it says...so maybe it isn't made with Scorpions, definitely no mustard in the sauce just fermented peppers and a bit of vinegar. I still have a bit of each bottle...the previous years have all been Ghosts.
 
A by product of his sauce making are pepper flakes....super hot, but great flavor.

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Re:The World's Hottest Pepper - Wed, 01/8/14 10:03 PM
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Yeah if it's just peppers and vinegar, then it should be red.  If it's yellow, then it's likely some other type of pepper.
 
Some Caribbean sauces use mustard...that's why I asked.
 
He uses alot of Ghosts?  Could he have used yellow Ghost peppers?  We had some yellow & red given to us this year.  Tasty.

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Re:The World's Hottest Pepper - Wed, 02/12/14 6:59 PM
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Dave's is the hottest stuff that i know. I can only imagine the heat of the chili being discussed here.    

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Re:The World's Hottest Pepper - Wed, 02/12/14 8:07 PM
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The Dave's Insanity uses pepper extract instead of real peppers.  That's a different class of sauce...it's for heat, not flavor. 
 
 

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Re:The World's Hottest Pepper - Wed, 02/12/14 9:12 PM
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Yes. If you're using anything hotter than a Habanaro Pepper, heat pretty much becomes the primary focus. Flavor/taste is definitely secondary. I consider items like Dave's Insanity Sauce more of a novelty than an actual useful culinary product...I mean you could use it, but why?       
 

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Re:The World's Hottest Pepper - Thu, 02/13/14 8:55 AM
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I had an old bottle of Dave's that I finally tossed on the most recent refrigerator culling. I probably used less than a dozen drops of it since buying it over ten years ago.

On the other hand, I just opened a second bottle of Melinda's Ghost Pepper Sauce since Thanksgiving. During that time I've also used most of a bottle of Red Savina and of Scotch Bonnet. A really well made super hot sauce can be ALL about the flavor.

The current promo code for Figueroa Brothers is HEATWEEK. It will get you 15% off. Give Melinda's sauces a try, you will be convinced!
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Re:The World's Hottest Pepper - Thu, 02/13/14 2:26 PM
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I guess if you have built your scoville tolerance high enough one could actually enjoy food impregnated with excessive amounts of capsaicion and actually enjoy the flavor of the recipe. Don't get me wrong. I love delicious well balanced spicy foods where all ingredients congeal together in a happy gastronomic marriage of flavorful pure bliss. I grew up eating Serrano and Jalepenos chilies that have great flavor. (In my opinion spice/heat can take most recipes to the next level when done right) Being a chef for some 20 years in various Thai,Mexican,French,Italian and Southwestern restaurants. I have found very little need to no need at all for the most part of excessively hot over the top spicy products. 
 

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Re:The World's Hottest Pepper - Thu, 02/13/14 3:31 PM
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That's not what I'm saying at all. What I'm saying is that there are fantastic sauces made from peppers hotter than habaneros. I suggest you invest the $5 or so and give one a try. You may be pleasantly surprised, and possibly change your mind. I have eaten Thai food that is much hotter and far less enjoyable than the products I've referenced.

I understand your position, but I find it indefensible because you yourself said that you stopped sampling. There are people who know how to balance the characteristics, it isn't just the heat, some of the super hots are just damn good. If it was just the heat, I would have used the Dave's instead of tossing it after 10 years of neglect. I agree with you that Dave's is not a culinary product; reference post #24 in this thread, you actually reinforced what I'd already written. But just because one company makes red capsaicin extract garbage doesn't mean that all 5oz bottles of heat are the same. They aren't.

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Re:The World's Hottest Pepper - Thu, 02/13/14 7:21 PM
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I agree with what you said about all 5oz bottles are not the same, How could they be? My professional opinion is not based on one particular 5oz bottle of hot sauce or even the dozens upon dozens I have tried in the past.(use to try out different hot sauces about one per week and take them in to work for the staff to try did this for years as some of the staff) My point here being obviously missed. "Way To Much Heat-Capsaicion-Scoville what ever you want to call it in your food is overkill period" Uber spicy food Will Not/Cannot be Appreciated by the majority of the restaurant patronizing American public. On the other hand I know a few who actually relish/love excessive heat in their food but they are few. 
 

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Re:The World's Hottest Pepper - Thu, 02/13/14 7:58 PM
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As often happens in the world, different people have different experiences and different interpretations. We shall agree in some ways and disagree in others, I suppose. De gustibus non disputandum est.
 

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Re:The World's Hottest Pepper - Fri, 02/14/14 3:46 AM
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Amen....(and im not even religious)