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leethebard
Sirloin
Re:The Shocking Ingredients in Beer! 2014/04/26 05:05:11
Wow...who knew!!" />
myterry2
Double Cheeseburger
Re:The Shocking Ingredients in Beer! 2014/04/26 05:58:50
Doubt it going to effect beer consumption much, if any, but these are interesting facts.
TNBear
Junior Burger
Re:The Shocking Ingredients in Beer! 2014/04/26 07:52:47
None of the "beers" shown are on my drinkable list. Stick to smaller craft breweries is my motto.
MetroplexJim
Filet Mignon
Re:The Shocking Ingredients in Beer! 2014/04/26 08:18:16
The hybridization of corn pre-dates the 'discovery' of the Americas by the Vikings.  The present technology is simply a modern refinement of ancient techniques - nothing to get one's panties in a wad over ...  unless, of course, you are one of those so very many sad individuals who takes perverse pleasure from wallowing in 'concerns' raised by others with hidden agendas.
 
I, for one, am happy that I no longer have to shuck corn in the grocery or farmers' market to check for worms! 
 
Frack the fields and, if it 'concerns' you, give the cows some Beano; somehow I believe we'll all be the better for it.
Twinwillow
Sirloin
Re:The Shocking Ingredients in Beer! 2014/04/26 10:47:45
Makes me wonder, what's in my wine?
Michael Hoffman
Double-chop Porterhouse
Re:The Shocking Ingredients in Beer! 2014/04/26 11:23:43
Ah, MetroplexJim -- a man after my own heart.
MilwFoodlovers
Filet Mignon
Re:The Shocking Ingredients in Beer! 2014/04/26 19:06:20
~~"First of all, I was able to obtain a baseline list of “legal” additives allowed in beer from the book “Chemicals Additives in Beer” by the Center of Science and Public Interest"~~
 
The CSPI is not to be taken as credible and are also known as the "Food Police". This entire report by the "food babe" has been discredited but I'm too lazy, or is it indifferent, to bother to find the link.
Foodbme
Porterhouse
Re:The Shocking Ingredients in Beer! 2014/04/26 19:07:21
MetroplexJim
The hybridization of corn pre-dates the 'discovery' of the Americas by the Vikings.  The present technology is simply a modern refinement of ancient techniques - nothing to get one's panties in a wad over ...  unless, of course, you are one of those so very many sad individuals who takes perverse pleasure from wallowing in 'concerns' raised by others with hidden agendas.
I, for one, am happy that I no longer have to shuck corn in the grocery or farmers' market to check for worms! 
Frack the fields and, if it 'concerns' you, give the cows some Beano; somehow I believe we'll all be the better for it.

Don't shoot the Messenger!
As they say on the Radio, "The following is a Public Service Announcement.'
That said, I think I'll go grab a Coors Light!
Foodbme
Porterhouse
Re:The Shocking Ingredients in Beer! 2014/04/26 19:08:53
Twinwillow
Makes me wonder, what's in my wine?

Nitrites and who knows!
Davydd
Sirloin
Re:The Shocking Ingredients in Beer! 2014/04/26 19:23:10
TNBear

None of the "beers" shown are on my drinkable list. Stick to smaller craft breweries is my motto.

Ditto and the only sane comment here. Water, malted barley, yeast and hops are the only proper ingredients in beer.
lleechef
Sirloin
Re:The Shocking Ingredients in Beer! 2014/04/26 19:23:20
Foodbme

Twinwillow
Makes me wonder, what's in my wine?

Nitrites and who knows!

Not if you buy wine from reputable vineyards.........especially if you know the owner and/or winemaker.  I know that my friends at many, many vineyards in CA do not add nitrates. 
Foodbme
Porterhouse
Re:The Shocking Ingredients in Beer! 2014/04/26 19:40:42
lleechef
Foodbme
Twinwillow
Makes me wonder, what's in my wine?

Nitrites and who knows!

Not if you buy wine from reputable vineyards.........especially if you know the owner and/or winemaker.  I know that my friends at many, many vineyards in CA do not add nitrates. 

If I recall correctly, if it contains Nitrites, it needs to be listed on the label?
lleechef
Sirloin
Re:The Shocking Ingredients in Beer! 2014/04/26 19:46:33
Foodbme

lleechef
Foodbme
Twinwillow
Makes me wonder, what's in my wine?

Nitrites and who knows!

Not if you buy wine from reputable vineyards.........especially if you know the owner and/or winemaker.  I know that my friends at many, many vineyards in CA do not add nitrates. 

If I recall correctly, if it contains Nitrites, it needs to be listed on the label?

Yes it does.

Root-Beer Man
Cheeseburger
Re:The Shocking Ingredients in Beer! 2014/04/26 20:13:31
Nothing shocking about the ingredients in any beer. That article was bunk.
 
http://blog.timesunion.co...king-immediately/2425/
http://www.openmarket.org...-results-in-beer-fear/
bartl
Double Chili Cheeseburger
Re:The Shocking Ingredients in Beer! 2014/04/26 20:17:31
Beware. All of those, and many other beers, contain an amount of dihydrogen monoxide that, if inhaled in gaseous form, can easily cause death.
 
Bart
post edited by bartl - 2014/04/28 16:40:22
Twinwillow
Sirloin
Re:The Shocking Ingredients in Beer! 2014/04/26 20:42:06
lleechef

Foodbme

lleechef
Foodbme
Twinwillow
Makes me wonder, what's in my wine?

Nitrites and who knows!

Not if you buy wine from reputable vineyards.........especially if you know the owner and/or winemaker.  I know that my friends at many, many vineyards in CA do not add nitrates. 

If I recall correctly, if it contains Nitrites, it needs to be listed on the label?

Yes it does.

 
Most wines also contain sulfites. But, they're listed on the labels.
Poverty Pete
Double Chili Cheeseburger
Re:The Shocking Ingredients in Beer! 2014/04/26 21:22:43
Much ado about nothing.  The large majority of Americans don't like the taste of beer that doesn't contain either rice or corn adjuncts.
I'm surprised the article doesn't lament the use of beechwood in Budweiser.
Mosca
Filet Mignon
Re:The Shocking Ingredients in Beer! 2014/04/26 21:27:40
And for that matter, you can GMO the heck out of my food if it makes it last longer and taste better.
Foodbme
Porterhouse
Re:The Shocking Ingredients in Beer! 2014/04/27 03:49:03
Well, at least I provoked some lively discussion that created some new knowledge for all of us.
So, I'll just keep wishing I could get my favorite hometown brew out here in AZ!
www.straubbeer.com
"Made with Pure Mountain Spring Water"! 
MetroplexJim
Filet Mignon
Re:The Shocking Ingredients in Beer! 2014/04/27 08:40:44
Foodbme

MetroplexJim
The hybridization of corn pre-dates the 'discovery' of the Americas by the Vikings.  The present technology is simply a modern refinement of ancient techniques - nothing to get one's panties in a wad over ...  unless, of course, you are one of those so very many sad individuals who takes perverse pleasure from wallowing in 'concerns' raised by others with hidden agendas.
I, for one, am happy that I no longer have to shuck corn in the grocery or farmers' market to check for worms! 
Frack the fields and, if it 'concerns' you, give the cows some Beano; somehow I believe we'll all be the better for it.

Don't shoot the Messenger!
As they say on the Radio, "The following is a Public Service Announcement.'
That said, I think I'll go grab a Coors Light!


OMG!  We agree on beer, too. 
Apres golf, the Silver Bullets rule!
MetroplexJim
Filet Mignon
Re:The Shocking Ingredients in Beer! 2014/04/27 08:54:17
Twinwillow

lleechef

Foodbme

lleechef
Foodbme
Twinwillow
Makes me wonder, what's in my wine?

Nitrites and who knows!

Not if you buy wine from reputable vineyards.........especially if you know the owner and/or winemaker.  I know that my friends at many, many vineyards in CA do not add nitrates. 

If I recall correctly, if it contains Nitrites, it needs to be listed on the label?

Yes it does.


Most wines also contain sulfites. But, they're listed on the labels.


I just checked my 4 liter jug of Carlo Rossi's "Paisano". 
 
Sure enough, it - despite being labelled '100% Grape Wine' - does contain sulfites.  Maybe that's why it is so tasty over ice!
TNBear
Junior Burger
Re:The Shocking Ingredients in Beer! 2014/04/27 09:10:14
Thank you brother, and right back at you.
Davydd
Sirloin
Re:The Shocking Ingredients in Beer! 2014/04/27 09:27:48
I'm shocked Americans easily accept rice and corn, GMO or not, and I feel struck down by the silver bullet. " />  I say quit pizzing on the ancient art of brewing and drink ice tea if you want to quench your thirst!
 
There is a reason for the renaissance of craft brewing and over 2,800 breweries vs. less than a 100 in the '70's. There are a lot of people who appreciate good beers. My afternoon yesterday was spent drinking a Bitteshlappe on draft in the Excelsior Brewing Tap Room.
MetroplexJim
Filet Mignon
Re:The Shocking Ingredients in Beer! 2014/04/27 09:53:38
Davydd

I'm shocked Americans easily accept rice and corn, GMO or not, and I feel struck down by the silver bullet. " />  I say quit pizzing on the ancient art of brewing and drink ice tea if you want to quench your thirst!

There is a reason for the renaissance of craft brewing and over 2,800 breweries vs. less than a 100 in the '70's. There are a lot of people who appreciate good beers. My afternoon yesterday was spent drinking a Bitteshlappe on draft in the Excelsior Brewing Tap Room.


If I had to root for the Twins and Vikings, I'd drink stronger stuff as well. 
 
(And, I'm beginning to understand the 'how & why' of Jesse Ventura and Al Franken).
lleechef
Sirloin
Re:The Shocking Ingredients in Beer! 2014/04/27 12:30:41
MetroplexJim

Twinwillow

lleechef

Foodbme

lleechef
Foodbme
Twinwillow
Makes me wonder, what's in my wine?

Nitrites and who knows!

Not if you buy wine from reputable vineyards.........especially if you know the owner and/or winemaker.  I know that my friends at many, many vineyards in CA do not add nitrates. 

If I recall correctly, if it contains Nitrites, it needs to be listed on the label?

Yes it does.


Most wines also contain sulfites. But, they're listed on the labels.


I just checked my 4 liter jug of Carlo Rossi's "Paisano". 

Sure enough, it - despite being labelled '100% Grape Wine' - does contain sulfites.  Maybe that's why it is so tasty over ice!

Ah ha!  Another discriminating oenophile.......that's MH's wine of choice.  Sans ice.
Michael Hoffman
Double-chop Porterhouse
Re:The Shocking Ingredients in Beer! 2014/04/27 13:02:26
Uh huh. I guess that wasn't you I saw sipping Paisano last night.
Davydd
Sirloin
Re:The Shocking Ingredients in Beer! 2014/04/27 13:09:05
MetroplexJim

Davydd

I'm shocked Americans easily accept rice and corn, GMO or not, and I feel struck down by the silver bullet. " />  I say quit pizzing on the ancient art of brewing and drink ice tea if you want to quench your thirst!

There is a reason for the renaissance of craft brewing and over 2,800 breweries vs. less than a 100 in the '70's. There are a lot of people who appreciate good beers. My afternoon yesterday was spent drinking a Bitteshlappe on draft in the Excelsior Brewing Tap Room.


If I had to root for the Twins and Vikings, I'd drink stronger stuff as well. 

(And, I'm beginning to understand the 'how & why' of Jesse Ventura and Al Franken).

Oops! At least Franken and Ventura could get beyond two thoughts.
MetroplexJim
Filet Mignon
Re:The Shocking Ingredients in Beer! 2014/04/27 16:56:19
Davydd

MetroplexJim

Davydd

I'm shocked Americans easily accept rice and corn, GMO or not, and I feel struck down by the silver bullet. " />  I say quit pizzing on the ancient art of brewing and drink ice tea if you want to quench your thirst!

There is a reason for the renaissance of craft brewing and over 2,800 breweries vs. less than a 100 in the '70's. There are a lot of people who appreciate good beers. My afternoon yesterday was spent drinking a Bitteshlappe on draft in the Excelsior Brewing Tap Room.


If I had to root for the Twins and Vikings, I'd drink stronger stuff as well. 

(And, I'm beginning to understand the 'how & why' of Jesse Ventura and Al Franken).

Oops! At least Franken and Ventura could get beyond two thoughts.

 
(Had to think for a second). 

But could either ride a horse and govern Texas? 
 
We'd put Franken in charge of the gorilla cage in the Dallas Zoo and see if he could replicate his most famous film role. 
 
If Jesse Ventura comes to testify in his chickensh*t lawsuit against widow Kyle he'd better be wearing a "Hurt Locker" suit and be surrounded by security.  
Mosca
Filet Mignon
Re:The Shocking Ingredients in Beer! 2014/04/27 19:20:47
Davydd

I'm shocked Americans easily accept rice and corn, GMO or not, and I feel struck down by the silver bullet. " />  I say quit pizzing on the ancient art of brewing and drink ice tea if you want to quench your thirst!

There is a reason for the renaissance of craft brewing and over 2,800 breweries vs. less than a 100 in the '70's. There are a lot of people who appreciate good beers. My afternoon yesterday was spent drinking a Bitteshlappe on draft in the Excelsior Brewing Tap Room.


One of the reasons for the renaissance of craft brewing in the US is the break from the tyranny of the reinheitsgebot. American craft brewers have even gone to Germany to show brewers there the beauty of brewing with other ingredients. It is a slow process, to be sure, but in the end everyone wins!
WarToad
Double Chili Cheeseburger
Re:The Shocking Ingredients in Beer! 2014/04/28 10:11:48
One of the many reasons I've been homebrewing the last 23 years.
MetroplexJim
Filet Mignon
Re:The Shocking Ingredients in Beer! 2014/04/28 11:22:09
Had a buddy that did the homebrew thing; he really 'hopped up' his brews and they had what I would describe as a slightly narcotic effect.
eruby
Double Cheeseburger
Re:The Shocking Ingredients in Beer! 2014/04/28 14:44:07
The Reinheitsgebot weeps.
 
CCJPO
Double Cheeseburger
Re:The Shocking Ingredients in Beer! 2014/04/28 15:26:14
From the days of my misspent youth and little money in the 60's came the that wonderful brew P.O.C., or as it was lovingly called "Pride of Cleveland" - made from the stunningly cool, clear, crisp water of the Cuyahoga River, when the river wasn't on fire. Brought to you by Mayor Ralph.
Poverty Pete
Double Chili Cheeseburger
Re:The Shocking Ingredients in Beer! 2014/04/28 16:23:41
Can we have a bit of perspective on the subject of Reinheitsgebot?  When the law was enacted, it was NOT done to ensure a higher quality beer.  The dirty truth is that there was a famine going on, and the brewers were using all the grains to make beer, leaving a shortage of food.  Since then, there has been a good deal of revisionist history come down the pike.
bartl
Double Chili Cheeseburger
Re:The Shocking Ingredients in Beer! 2014/04/28 16:42:37
Foodbme Well, at least I provoked some lively discussion that created some new knowledge for all of us.
So, I'll just keep wishing I could get my favorite hometown brew out here in AZ!
www.straubbeer.com
"Made with Pure Mountain Spring Water"! 

Even that beer contains potentially deadly amounts of dihydrogen monoxide.
 
Bart
Davydd
Sirloin
Re:The Shocking Ingredients in Beer! 2014/04/28 17:37:06
There is a difference between brewing with wheat and red oat vs cheap tasteless fillers like rice and corn. I also have a hard time with lime, lemon, orange, grapefruit, cherry, cinnamon and every other godawful additive marketing comes up with to lighten beer and to sell to women and girly men. Yes, I said it. Girly men. Those flavor additives, besides marketing, are used to disguise cheaper ingredients and shortcut brewing.
tmiles
Double Chili Cheeseburger
Re:The Shocking Ingredients in Beer! 2014/04/28 19:35:28
Nationwide, there are strong opinions on the GMO subject. Unfortunately, rather than fight a long war, on the merits, on a national basis, the antis are trying to fight a local fight and a nasty fight. IMO, the commerce clause applies. Personally, I would be better off if there was a 500% tax on non organic food, because I could then be a happy organic farmer. As a realist, I think that we should put the facts on the label, and let the consumer decide.
 
I've said my bit, but if this thread had never started, I'd be ok with that. 
SodaDude
Junior Burger
Re:The Shocking Ingredients in Beer! 2014/07/01 14:39:37
I don't know why "GMO" is a bad thing.  Farming by its very nature involves humans engineering crops to suit their needs.
 
As for the use of corn syrup, I don't see a problem with that, either.  The beer doesn't taste sweet, so presumably the majority if not all of it gets broken down into alcohol and carbon dioxide during the fermentation process just as any other source of sugar for fermentation would.
bartl
Double Chili Cheeseburger
Re:The Shocking Ingredients in Beer! 2014/07/04 12:47:06
SodaDudeI don't know why "GMO" is a bad thing.  Farming by its very nature involves humans engineering crops to suit their needs.



The difference between seed selection, cross breeding, and GMO is that with the first two, our bodies are still getting things that exist in nature. With the last, we are taking chances, without knowing what the long-term effects may be. Now, for the most part, they're almost certainly safe. However, that reminds me of the sign I put on my door every Halloween: "Ring doorbell for candy. We almost never eat trick-or-treaters!"
 
Look at, for example, high-fructose corn syrup. Two natural ingredients, fused together. But it turns out that, at least so far in animal experiments, the body doesn't quite know what to do with it; for example, in rats, the pancreas say, "This is sugar alright!" and secrete insulin, but the cells say, "This ain't sugar!" and reject the insulin.
 
Bart