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RE: America's Best Hot Dogs - Wed, 06/30/04 7:57 PM
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Thanks John! I'm off to Charlie's Famous Italian Hot Dogs in Kenilworth and Tommy's in Elizabeth this weekend for a taste test- you're amazing!


Tis,
Let us know which one you prefer. These 2 are the best in my opinion. If you see a pretty young lady at Charlies, ask her if her name is Meghan. That's my daughter! She worked at Charlies throughout high school and now that she is home for the summer from her first year at UConn. Some people think that I pick Charlies as the best Italian Hot Dog because she works there. The fact is, I went to all the places I could and liked Charlies the best, so I went there more. I saw a help wanted sign, and since my daughter was looking for a job and we only live about 3 miles away, I got her an application. She got a good part time job, and I got a tee shirt and an occasional free hot dog as a fringe benefit.

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RE: America's Best Hot Dogs - Wed, 07/7/04 1:33 PM
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Yum... I made it to Charlie's in Kenilworth- great Italian hot dog! Interestingly, I think it is on par with Frank's Newark Style hot dogs- it just depends on your taste. Charlie's fried the potatoes and (I think) the onions & peppers in oil. They are not (as it might sound) greasy- they were actually delicious, but I think that I prefered the grilled versions at Frank's. But each was good- it's just your taste (and the excellent fried potatoes used at Charlie's could be a meal unto themselves). I also thought that cooking the peppers & onions together imparted more taste but, as you mentioned, that's a problem if you want just one or the other. Bread was excellent- perfect thickness & softness. And now I know what a Best's dog tastes like- very meaty- good taste. I need to try some others to compare to the other types around... And yes, the young woman at the counter laughed when I mentioned you as she knew you! She made us a pair of wonderful Italian hot dogs- great recommendation, thanks!

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RE: America's Best Hot Dogs - Wed, 07/7/04 8:34 PM
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Tis,
Glad you liked the dogs! The young woman should know me; she's my daughter! I always send my friends and people I work with there as well as my other favorite hot dog places. You're so right when you say that it's a matter of taste. Taste is so subjective. When it comes to Italian Hot Dogs some love the stuffed sandwich, thin sliced potatoes, and excellent peppers at Charlies. Others like the thicker sliced potatoes at Frank's or Dickiee Dees. Others like the extra oils and spices at Jimmy Buff's. I think Tommy's has the best potatoes, but is chintzy when it comes to peppers.

Charlies fries everything in the same oil, but they separate the ingredients into separate baskets. Frank's deep fries the hot dogs, but grills the vegetables. Dickie Dees deep fries everything in peanut oil, Jimmy Buff's has a stainles steel tilted pan where they slide the ingredients into the grease as needed. I like Charlies because I like the potatoes sliced thin, plus they have the best peppers. They give you the most vegetables and everything blends together well. Tommy's is close, and as I said, has great potatoes. They sell them separate in cups if you want. Jimmy Buff's is good, but very, very greasy. Some people actually prefer this. Just be carefull if you buy one to take home. Make sure you put the bag on the floor rather than the car seat as the grease seeps through. Buff's also has the peppers and onions mixed together, but will use prongs to fish the peppers out of the oil and apart from the onions if you want. Franks is good as well; good potatoes, though I prefer them thinner, fresh bread, tasty dogs (though I prefer Best brand) and a real flavorful mustard.

I hope you get around to trying Tommy's, Jimmy Buff's and Dickie Dees and letting us know what you think.

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RE: America's Best Hot Dogs - Mon, 12/13/04 4:02 PM
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Im from Michigan, and have been many places arond the country. There is no place like Michigan Coney Islands. True they are mostly greek owned and serve big breakfasts. Many have greek specialties like stuffed grape leaves, pork chop sandwhiches and spinach pie, but what makes them all a Coney Island is there hot dogs with chili. Now I've had chili dogs all over the country, but most are tomatoe based, with beans and not very good. The coneys in michigan and detroit use a more spicey chili usually made with chili spice, tumeric and cumin. I currently live in California and its one of the only complaints I have, there is not chili dogs!! Open late hours! After the bar. or on a Sunday afternoon, nothing beats the home feeling you get after eating 2 on 1 with everything (two coneys on one plate) served with chopped onions and mustard!

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RE: America's Best Hot Dogs - Mon, 12/13/04 11:10 PM
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Im from Michigan, and have been many places arond the country. There is no place like Michigan Coney Islands. True they are mostly greek owned and serve big breakfasts. Many have greek specialties like stuffed grape leaves, pork chop sandwhiches and spinach pie, but what makes them all a Coney Island is there hot dogs with chili. Now I've had chili dogs all over the country, but most are tomatoe based, with beans and not very good. The coneys in michigan and detroit use a more spicey chili usually made with chili spice, tumeric and cumin. I currently live in California and its one of the only complaints I have, there is not chili dogs!! Open late hours! After the bar. or on a Sunday afternoon, nothing beats the home feeling you get after eating 2 on 1 with everything (two coneys on one plate) served with chopped onions and mustard!


I feel your pain mikeobi. I grew up in Michigan and ate coneys from one side of the state to the other. I've never found anything like them other than in Michigan.

You're right about the tomato product. I've tried dozens of recipes for 'michigan coney sauce' over the years and have never found a satisfactory one. As soon as I see that it has some sort of tomato in it, I know it's not the one.

I live in California too, and the closest facsimile to a Michigan coney I can find near me (Monterey area) is 20 mi north in Watsonville. If you only like mustard and onions (traditional) make sure you tell them, otherwise they'll add some relish.

Only 2 on 1? Man, I always get at least 3 and usually 4.


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RE: America's Best Hot Dogs - Mon, 12/13/04 11:26 PM
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Originally posted by mikeobi

Im from Michigan, and have been many places arond the country. There is no place like Michigan Coney Islands. True they are mostly greek owned and serve big breakfasts. Many have greek specialties like stuffed grape leaves, pork chop sandwhiches and spinach pie, but what makes them all a Coney Island is there hot dogs with chili. Now I've had chili dogs all over the country, but most are tomatoe based, with beans and not very good. The coneys in michigan and detroit use a more spicey chili usually made with chili spice, tumeric and cumin. I currently live in California and its one of the only complaints I have, there is not chili dogs!! Open late hours! After the bar. or on a Sunday afternoon, nothing beats the home feeling you get after eating 2 on 1 with everything (two coneys on one plate) served with chopped onions and mustard!


Like Dino said... I feel for ya... I'll think of ya tommorow when I visit the Red Hot Inn and have a few chili dogs w/everything! I'm actually going in to support them (and my stomach) after seeing a newscast this evening.. Here's a link to the story: http://www.woodtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=2687354&nav=0RcdU9Xl Have you heard of anything more stupid lately? Edit: If you visit the website, we had wind gusts of 40 to 50 mph today, so the decorations may be a bit inverted.



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(Oh ya, in Michigan)...

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RE: America's Best Hot Dogs - Mon, 12/13/04 11:48 PM
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Uncle Vic
(Oh ya, in Michigan)...


BTW Uncle Vic, do you know of a hamburger joint called something like 'Mr. Fables'? I thought they had great burgers - kinda like 'Crazy Jim's Blimpy Burger' in Ann Arbor. I used to fly in and out of the GR airport frequently, and would always stop at a Mr. Fables that was someplace out near the airport. Been gone from Michigan too long to remember exactly where.

Sorry for the off topic post folks.


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RE: America's Best Hot Dogs - Mon, 12/13/04 11:58 PM
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Uncle Vic
(Oh ya, in Michigan)...


BTW Uncle Vic, do you know of a hamburger joint called something like 'Mr. Fables'? I thought they had great burgers - kinda like 'Crazy Jim's Blimpy Burger' in Ann Arbor. I used to fly in and out of the GR airport frequently, and would always stop at a Mr. Fables that was someplace out near the airport. Been gone from Michigan too long to remember exactly where.

Sorry for the off topic post folks.


Dino


Oh ya, Mr Fables! The one by the airport was located on 44th street at East Paris and Broadmoor. All the Mr Fables went out of business here a few years back. (I used to work across the street from the 44th Street location and ate there all the time back in the mid 80's).
(If I wasn't eating there, I'd drive a mile south to the A&W (Broadmoor and 52nd) and grab 6 chili dogs with everything, but like all other good eats, they're history also)..

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RE: America's Best Hot Dogs - Tue, 12/14/04 2:05 AM
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Thanks for the info Uncle. Sorry to see Mr. Fables didn't make it.

Now back to our regularly scheduled program...


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RE: America's Best Hot Dogs - Tue, 12/14/04 2:20 AM
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Thanks for the info Uncle. Sorry to see Mr. Fables didn't make it.

Now back to our regularly scheduled program...


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RE: America's Best Hot Dogs - Tue, 12/21/04 4:55 PM
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chili dog in tamaqua pa (formerly texas petes) in business since the fourties, great sauce, although now in a larger building they used to have a really small building with just 7 or 8 stools at the counter, he made enough money to put his kids through college just selling hot dogs

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RE: America's Best Hot Dogs - Mon, 01/3/05 9:32 AM
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If you are ever in southeastern NC try Paul's Place-started out as one location near Wilmington a long time ago -recently added several sites in the area. They have a special sauce they make-sort of like chow-chow. The rolls are great-top split and very soft. You will either really like them or not care of them at all.

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RE: America's Best Hot Dogs - Wed, 05/11/05 6:25 PM
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Hazleton, PA
If you want to try the best Hot Dog ever, go to Hazleton, PA ...
Jimmy's Quick Lunch on Broad St.
Their Hot Dog, grilled, on a steamed bun with mustard, chili sauce and finely diced onions. They are great!
The hot dogs are Dietzen & Watson brand.

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RE: America's Best Hot Dogs - Sat, 05/14/05 11:34 PM
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I prefer my hot dogs grilled The hebrew national natural casing
dog is quite tasty.
a high quality dog indeed

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RE: America's Best Hot Dogs - Sun, 05/15/05 12:21 AM
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Spudnut,

I'm impressed that you've been to Ted's and Nick Tahou's. I have a source that sends me Zwegel's white hots. My feeling is that you could make a great hot dog trek across the NY State Thruway from Ted's in Tonawanda to Nick Tahous (what ever happened to Zab's?), to the Old Mill in Clifton Springs, to Heid's in Liverpool, and oh poop, what's that place just weat of Utica, then ending up in Troy for the itty bitty weinies at World Famous and Uncle Sam's, if they're still there. One of the kicks in Clifton Springs is that the 'kraut is made locally. You can smell tha cabbage when you're driving down the Thruway, if the wind is right. Have the dog with hot sauce and kraut. The kraut accentuates the burn.

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RE: America's Best Hot Dogs - Sun, 05/22/05 6:23 PM
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Zwiegle's has my vote as top dog. I have not seen where they are easily available, however. They have always been a Rochester, NY thing. Whenever I am in the area I always fill up an ice chest with them, usually equally with red and white hots.

NYC hots do nothing for me. For the most part NYC style tastes overwhelming of sodium nitrite. I am sure you could extract enough sodium nitrite out of a NYC style dog to make your own gun powder. I suppose that might be a plus for some folk, but not for me.

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RE: America's Best Hot Dogs - Sun, 05/22/05 6:39 PM
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Zweigle's are fine, but really more of a bratwurst than a hot dog. A different spicing, and milder in flavor than a Nathan's or Sabrett. I think it is the salt and spices in a N.Y. dog that you don't like. Zweigle's has as much sodium nitrite.

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RE: America's Best Hot Dogs - Wed, 06/22/05 7:24 AM
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Originally posted by mikeobi

Im from Michigan, and have been many places arond the country. There is no place like Michigan Coney Islands. True they are mostly greek owned and serve big breakfasts. Many have greek specialties like stuffed grape leaves, pork chop sandwhiches and spinach pie, but what makes them all a Coney Island is there hot dogs with chili. Now I've had chili dogs all over the country, but most are tomatoe based, with beans and not very good. The coneys in michigan and detroit use a more spicey chili usually made with chili spice, tumeric and cumin. I currently live in California and its one of the only complaints I have, there is not chili dogs!! Open late hours! After the bar. or on a Sunday afternoon, nothing beats the home feeling you get after eating 2 on 1 with everything (two coneys on one plate) served with chopped onions and mustard!


I feel your pain mikeobi. I grew up in Michigan and ate coneys from one side of the state to the other. I've never found anything like them other than in Michigan.

You're right about the tomato product. I've tried dozens of recipes for 'michigan coney sauce' over the years and have never found a satisfactory one. As soon as I see that it has some sort of tomato in it, I know it's not the one.

I live in California too, and the closest facsimile to a Michigan coney I can find near me (Monterey area) is 20 mi north in Watsonville. If you only like mustard and onions (traditional) make sure you tell them, otherwise they'll add some relish.

Only 2 on 1? Man, I always get at least 3 and usually 4.


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RE: America's Best Hot Dogs - Wed, 06/22/05 7:30 AM
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Im from Michigan, and have been many places arond the country. There is no place like Michigan Coney Islands. True they are mostly greek owned and serve big breakfasts. Many have greek specialties like stuffed grape leaves, pork chop sandwhiches and spinach pie, but what makes them all a Coney Island is there hot dogs with chili. Now I've had chili dogs all over the country, but most are tomatoe based, with beans and not very good. The coneys in michigan and detroit use a more spicey chili usually made with chili spice, tumeric and cumin. I currently live in California and its one of the only complaints I have, there is not chili dogs!! Open late hours! After the bar. or on a Sunday afternoon, nothing beats the home feeling you get after eating 2 on 1 with everything (two coneys on one plate) served with chopped onions and mustard!


Having lived in Jackson Michigan for the first 18 years of my life I grew up on coney island hot dogs. I spent 20 years trying to come up with a coney sauce of my own. I live in the St. Louis area. I have something close and I have been selling coney dogs for years at work. I have just this week put my spice packet on ebay for sale: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5591859570

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RE: America's Best Hot Dogs - Sat, 06/25/05 7:43 PM
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I prefer my hot dogs grilled The hebrew national natural casing
dog is quite tasty.
a high quality dog indeed

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RE: America's Best Hot Dogs - Sun, 06/26/05 1:23 PM
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Spudnut,

I'm impressed that you've been to Ted's and Nick Tahou's. I have a source that sends me Zwegel's white hots. My feeling is that you could make a great hot dog trek across the NY State Thruway from Ted's in Tonawanda to Nick Tahous (what ever happened to Zab's?), to the Old Mill in Clifton Springs, to Heid's in Liverpool, and oh poop, what's that place just weat of Utica, then ending up in Troy for the itty bitty weinies at World Famous and Uncle Sam's, if they're still there. One of the kicks in Clifton Springs is that the 'kraut is made locally. You can smell tha cabbage when you're driving down the Thruway, if the wind is right. Have the dog with hot sauce and kraut. The kraut accentuates the burn.



I grew up in Northern New Jersey, but Heid's of Liverpool is my all-time favorite

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RE: America's Best Hot Dogs - Mon, 06/27/05 10:07 AM
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Hey! Don't know if you've already gone to Danbury, but growing up around there, the best place to me was Big Ed's stand, usually on Segar St or thereabouts. He has delicious sausage with onion sauce ~ along with a cream soda ~ mmmm mmmm mmmm. Also JKs at the end of Main St (can't remember the name of the cross road there)...has the famous Texas Hot Weiners...little hot dogs that are so good. JKs is also really good for breakfast. Have a lovely time in Danbury!

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RE: America's Best Hot Dogs - Mon, 07/4/05 3:06 PM
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Originally posted by DinoS

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Originally posted by mikeobi

Im from Michigan, and have been many places arond the country. There is no place like Michigan Coney Islands. True they are mostly greek owned and serve big breakfasts. Many have greek specialties like stuffed grape leaves, pork chop sandwhiches and spinach pie, but what makes them all a Coney Island is there hot dogs with chili. Now I've had chili dogs all over the country, but most are tomatoe based, with beans and not very good. The coneys in michigan and detroit use a more spicey chili usually made with chili spice, tumeric and cumin. I currently live in California and its one of the only complaints I have, there is not chili dogs!! Open late hours! After the bar. or on a Sunday afternoon, nothing beats the home feeling you get after eating 2 on 1 with everything (two coneys on one plate) served with chopped onions and mustard!


I feel your pain mikeobi. I grew up in Michigan and ate coneys from one side of the state to the other. I've never found anything like them other than in Michigan.

You're right about the tomato product. I've tried dozens of recipes for 'michigan coney sauce' over the years and have never found a satisfactory one. As soon as I see that it has some sort of tomato in it, I know it's not the one.

I live in California too, and the closest facsimile to a Michigan coney I can find near me (Monterey area) is 20 mi north in Watsonville. If you only like mustard and onions (traditional) make sure you tell them, otherwise they'll add some relish.

Only 2 on 1? Man, I always get at least 3 and usually 4.


Dino


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RE: America's Best Hot Dogs - Mon, 07/4/05 3:19 PM
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Originally posted by mikeobi

Im from Michigan, and have been many places arond the country. There is no place like Michigan Coney Islands. True they are mostly greek owned and serve big breakfasts. Many have greek specialties like stuffed grape leaves, pork chop sandwhiches and spinach pie, but what makes them all a Coney Island is there hot dogs with chili. Now I've had chili dogs all over the country, but most are tomatoe based, with beans and not very good. The coneys in michigan and detroit use a more spicey chili usually made with chili spice, tumeric and cumin. I currently live in California and its one of the only complaints I have, there is not chili dogs!! Open late hours! After the bar. or on a Sunday afternoon, nothing beats the home feeling you get after eating 2 on 1 with everything (two coneys on one plate) served with chopped onions and mustard!


Having lived in Jackson Michigan for the first 18 years of my life I grew up on coney island hot dogs. I spent 20 years trying to come up with a coney sauce of my own. I live in the St. Louis area. I have something close and I have been selling coney dogs for years at work. I have just this week put my spice packet on ebay for sale: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5591859570


Hello. I grew up in Jackson, Michigan as well and love Coney Island Hot Dogs from Todoroff's. They do sell the coney meat in the grocery stores there and here is the web site for ordering online
http://www.todoroffs.com/tfi/Purchase/purchase_index.htm#PlaceOrderOnline

I too miss them, mainly eating them in the restaurant with the french frys and my sisters sitting there with me.
As soon as I can I will be ordering some to my Arizona home because you cant find it here. I happened upon this subject while looking for the recipe for Michigan Hots.
Take Care, Moezee

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RE: America's Best Hot Dogs - Tue, 07/5/05 8:26 AM
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Originally posted by rlafolle

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Originally posted by mikeobi

Im from Michigan, and have been many places arond the country. There is no place like Michigan Coney Islands. True they are mostly greek owned and serve big breakfasts. Many have greek specialties like stuffed grape leaves, pork chop sandwhiches and spinach pie, but what makes them all a Coney Island is there hot dogs with chili. Now I've had chili dogs all over the country, but most are tomatoe based, with beans and not very good. The coneys in michigan and detroit use a more spicey chili usually made with chili spice, tumeric and cumin. I currently live in California and its one of the only complaints I have, there is not chili dogs!! Open late hours! After the bar. or on a Sunday afternoon, nothing beats the home feeling you get after eating 2 on 1 with everything (two coneys on one plate) served with chopped onions and mustard!


Having lived in Jackson Michigan for the first 18 years of my life I grew up on coney island hot dogs. I spent 20 years trying to come up with a coney sauce of my own. I live in the St. Louis area. I have something close and I have been selling coney dogs for years at work. I have just this week put my spice packet on ebay for sale: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5591859570


Hello. I grew up in Jackson, Michigan as well and love Coney Island Hot Dogs from Todoroff's. They do sell the coney meat in the grocery stores there and here is the web site for ordering online
http://www.todoroffs.com/tfi/Purchase/purchase_index.htm#PlaceOrderOnline

I too miss them, mainly eating them in the restaurant with the french frys and my sisters sitting there with me.
As soon as I can I will be ordering some to my Arizona home because you cant find it here. I happened upon this subject while looking for the recipe for Michigan Hots.
Take Care, Moezee

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RE: America's Best Hot Dogs - Mon, 07/11/05 1:56 AM
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Okay better late than never. I hope!

The Real thing (Vienna Hot Dogs) can be found at the following locations in San Diego:

Chicago on a Bun: La Jolla Area. No casing on dogs but, still great. Chicagoans. Beef Sandwiches are Vienna. Not quite Scala's but, still great or as close as you're gonna get here.

Sluggers, Downtown San Diego. Corner of 12th and Market Streets. Casings on dogs. Chicagoans. Beef Sandwiches are Vienna. Not quite Scala's but, as close as you can get out here.

The place east of I-805 off Mira Mesa Blvd (won't provide the name) does not know how to prepare properly. Not Chicagoan

The other place is in Escondido on Grand Ave (top of the Grand, Almost but, not quite. Don't even try the Beefs (I think they tried to save money and concocted their own creation). Not Chicagoan, In a pinch better than not.

Cheers. Unbelivable location to find Vienna Hot Dogs. Located in a Bar at the Southern Edge of Ramona on HWY-67. Available only during the NFL Season. The owner from MN went to Chicago and actually learned how to prep a Real Vienna Hot Dog. He also insisted on having casings. As with Chicago on a Bun and Sluggers, complete with steamed poppy seed buns. No Beefs.

A small sandwich shop in San Diego City Hall Promenade, Downtown, is trying real hard. Can do on this one with no regrets. No Beefs.

A Hot Dog Cart out in front of Horton Plaza serves Vienna Hot Dogs which can actually enhance the flavor of a Grinder roll and make it taste better but, he knows more than anyone else about the product and is too hard headed to get poppy seed buns. Definately not Chicagan.

That's about it for The San Diego Areas BROs. Or, what I know of. Hope this helps out!


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I'm a native Chicagoan, living in Orange County, CA that sorely misses my Chicago Dawgs.

It's a real challenge finding a good hot dog in So Cal as So Cal has been deprived of a hot dog heritage by the Dodgers baseball franchise. People in So Cal go to a Dodgers game once a year and have been served abysmal Farmer John hot dogs at the stadium so they think that is what a hot dog tastes like. For that reason the authentic Chicago-style hot dog joints rarely stick around for long (although there are exceptions, Mustards and Champs in Los Alamitos) as they don't have the adoring public that great hot dog cities have.

There used to be a good Chicago-style restaurant in Laguna Niguel, Georgio's, that served authentic Vienna Beef Chicago Dogs and Italian Beef sandwiches. Same old story, great place, lasted a year or two, and then closed. Other times you find a place that serves Chicago Dogs and unbeknownst to you it's sold to someone that knows nothing about them and the next time you go there you get a toasted bun, or they don't use Vienna Beef, or something else that lets you know the good times are over.

Pink's is OK, but's another whole different bird.

Last year for Christmas I ordered 10 lbs of Vienna Beef hot dogs off the Vienna Beef website. It worked great. You tell them the day you want them delivered and they arrive packed in dry ice. You can order a whole Chicago hot dog kit too containing poppy seed buns, that freaky green relish, etc.

My husband, a native Californian, never appreciated a good hot dog until I took him to Super Dawg on a trip to Chi-town. Now he's a convert.

If anyone's familiar with So Cal, especially Orange County, and can recommend other Chicago Dog places I'd be delighted. Heck, I'd drive to the Valley or San Diego for a good Chicago dog.

Damn, my mouth's watering...

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RE: America's Best Hot Dogs - Tue, 07/12/05 2:56 PM
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Anyone still interested in the lobels hot dogs should order through the weber grill site:
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Click on link at bottom to take you to the lobels site and you receive 2 16oz packages of hot dogs free with any order. Free 30 bucks in hot dogs. Enjoy.

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RE: America's Best Hot Dogs - Wed, 09/7/05 12:25 PM
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1) Rosco's Big Dog, Hartford, Conn. A great German style dog that is slow cooked on a griddle and served on a split New England style bun. I promised the owner that I wouldn't divulge the brand used on a public forum, but it is from Jersey. I have access to it where I live, but nowhere near me does any hot dog joint use this particular dog. Rosco's dog is a nice big size, 4 or 5 to a lb. As good a dog as you will find anywhere. I know we're talking hot dogs, but this one is as close to deserving of the label "gourmet" as any frankfurter.

2) Syd's, Union, N.J. The best example of a kosher style all beef dog that I've had. A natural casing (as are all of the dogs except Charlies) 5 to a lb footlong with a perfect blend of spices. Just delicious. From Best Provisions in Newark, N.J. This is one of the dogs that I cook at home. I cook it like Syd's; simmerred in water, than charbroiled. The Star Ledger's pick as best in Jersey.

3) Charlies Italian Hot Dogs, Kenilworth, N.J. Probably my favorite thing in the world to eat. It is a meal in itself, but more of a sandwich than a hot dog. Invented in, and unique to Jersey. Deep fried beef dogs (Best's) placed in Pita like bread with peppers, onions, and potatoes. Also called a Newark style dog, after it's town of origin. Charlies makes the best example of this sandwich, better than Jimmy Buff's, Dickiee Dees, and the rest.

4) The Galloping Hill Inn, Union, N.J. A griddle cooked, German style dog. Also considered by many (N.J. Monthly) to be the best in Jersey. My favorite of this style in Jersey. (I like the dog at Rosco's better) They use a Grote & Weigle griddle frank from Conn. It has a different casing than the other Grote & Weigle franks that are used in Jersey and Conn. This results in a different amount of smoke getting through in the smoking process. The end product is slightly different and better than the dogs used by every other restaurant that uses the G&W griddle franks. Also a unique, harder football shaped bun.

5) Papaya King, New York, N.Y. A small (10 to a lb) all beef Sabrett dog slowly cooked on low heat (160 degrees). The quintessential New York dog. Cheap, spicy, and unique. For many people, Sabrett is the standard. Same dog used at Gray's and Katz's but it is fresher and cooked better at Papaya King..

6) Nathan's, Coney Island, N.Y. 8 to a lb all beef dog made for Nathan's by SMG Meats. There are many Nathan's, but none better than the original. Some use the same dog, cook it the same way (griddle) and are as good. Others use the cheaper, skinless version and cook it on the roller grill. Same style as Sabrett, but with a different spicing. Maybe the most venerable hot dog joint in America. Lives up to its reputation.

7) Super Duper Weenie, Fairfield, Conn. A quarter pound beef and pork dog from Miller's Provisions in Stratford. One dog that I will eat with toppings. I love the New Englander with mustard, sweet relish (homemade) and a strip of bacon right in the middle where the dog is split. Also cooked on the griddle, this dog has slightly less flavor than the Rosco's or Galloping Hill Inn dog in order to blend in well with the homemade toppings. But it's also flavorful enough to be enjoyed with just a little bit of mustard. A great dog.

8) Rutt's Hut, Clifton, N.J. This is the best deep fried dog in existence. Pork and beef, and made especially to withstand the high temperature of the heating oil, this dog plumps up and rips; hence the ripper. Great plain, which is how I had it for a few years until I tried their fantastic homemade relish. Sorry I waited. The single best hot dog condiment. This dog used to be my favorite, but now I think I prefer the taste that griddle frying imparts. This dog is one of the most unique in flavor and texture. There seems to be no middle ground here. You either love it or hate it. I, and most others love it.

9) The Hot Grill, Pink's, or Lafayette Coney Island. All three make chili dogs. In Jersey (Hot Grill) it's called a Texas Weiner. In Michigan (Lafayette Coney Island) it's called a Coney. In LA (Pink's) it's called a chili dog. I haven't tried the last 2, but feel that they should be included because of their regional popularity. The Hot Grill uses a mild tasting beef and pork dog made by Sabrett that complements their flavorfull chili sauce. This is the best example of North Jersey Texas Weiner sauce that I've sampled. Thin and spicy with cloves, coriander and other spices, this chili is shipped all over the country and even into other countries. The Hot Grill may sell more hot dogs than any other place in New Jersey.

10) Superdawg, Chicago, Ill. I included a Chicago style dog even though it's not one of my favorite types of hot dogs. I have had an authentic one (according to the Chicago Tribune) in New York at Danny Meyers stand in Madison Park. The Vienna frank was ok, but a little milder than what I like in an all beef dog. I had a Chicago dog and one with just the Vienna frank and mustard. I preferred the one with just mustard. It wasn't buried under all of the toppings. The other ingredients clashed with the dog and overpowered it, especially the sports peppers. But that's just my opinion. Chicagoans and others love this dog. And there's a lot to be said for a town that has more hot dog joints than Burger King, Wendy's, and McDonald's combined. I would go for the char dogs and spicier polish sausages. I picked Superdawg because I prefer the frank they use (Sinai 48) to the more common (and popular) Vienna Frank. Plus, I like the addition of a pickled green tomato (unique to Superdawg) if you're gonna have a lot of toppings.

Thanks for indulging me. I'd love to hear your opinions.

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RE: America's Best Hot Dogs - Thu, 01/4/07 7:37 PM
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Chicago could have dominated that list! Anyhow, Hot Doug's in Chicago should be on any top 10 list. As soon as it reopens (recent fire) Chicagoans or visitors can see for themselves. Here's the link to their site. http://www.hotdougs.com/menu.htm Click on condiments and specials for a better idea of that Doug is selling.

And where are the Detroit Coneys?


So could a few cities, notably New York. I'd make a list of 5 or so from each city

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RE: America's Best Hot Dogs - Thu, 01/4/07 8:04 PM
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Originally posted by RenziThe Vienna Dog doen't have much flavor. Maybe that's why they bury it under all that crazy stuff plus the overseeded poppy bun.


Nah. That started during the depression when vendors tried putting all the veggies on top to give consumers a meal instead of just a hot dog. That's why I love Chicago. Just get your car stuck in the snow once if you don't believe me. Half a dozen of your fellow citizens will be on the back to give you a push within 2 seconds. I'm not a fan of pepperoncini or relish, so I ask them to leave it off. No complaints any more, except there are a lot of places where they don't have cucumbers.

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Originally posted by RenziNY pizza is still no. 1! I never did like Pizzacake.


I don't either, so I eat Chicago Style. Deep dish pizzas are 3/4 dough and 1/4 crap if you're lucky. Chicago style is the other way around if you're not lucky. 1/4 inch thick crust on a 2 inch pizza is pretty good, but it's not hard to do better in Chicago. I've had more than enough pizza you can carry around. I'm getting well fed because I don't put up with pizza you can fold, and pizza's surprisingly nourishing in the deal, too.

I remember my first slice of Chicago Style Pizza while in the Navy. I got it at Pizzeria Uno, right there on Wabash and Ohio. I ignorantly picked it up and ended up wearing half of it. Naturally I was in my dress whites at the time. Sheesh. A couple waitresses got the stain out and got a huge tip in the deal. I should have asked them how they did it. I'm told that Pizzeria Uno's quality dropped a bunch since then (June of 1981), but I've been to other places in the Chicago area for the real deal and have yet to have a bad slice. It's OKAY to sit down and savor your pizza! Of course, it helps if it's worth savoring.

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RE: America's Best Hot Dogs - Thu, 01/4/07 8:07 PM
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Can anyone tell me where I can purchase a good footlong hot dog in minnesota? I have looked online for someplace that would ship them and cant find anyone...I know hormel makes a excellant footlong..but the public cant purchase it through hormel...and even if I got a distributor to order it the minimum is 16 cases...way too many..So if anyone knows of a place I can order a good quality natural casing coarse ground foot long let me know!


Here's a dirty little secret. Buy for the church, firehouse, scout or whatever fundraiser, and take the tax break. After the sale, divvy up what's left over with your co-workers.

My fingers have boogers on them that got squeezed out of Lincoln's nose from the pennies I pinch, and I BRAG about it!

My final word, until someone else makes a post I feel led to comment on:

I went to Wrigley Field year before last for a Cubs game (which they lost, but I'm used to that) The game went into extra innings, so I went to the concessionaire for a dog. I was FURIOUS when they told me they didn't have Chicago Style fixin's. Condiments are good if they're quality and you like 'em, and it's a part of the experience. They had a Vienna dog with no casing, and that's okay with me, but no tomatoes or onions is blasphemy! I did get the yellow mustard, but it wasn't even French's!

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RE: America's Best Hot Dogs - Mon, 04/23/07 6:07 PM
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I have always been a fan of the Chicago dog made with vienna hotdogs and poppy seed buns.

St. Louis has a great place called Woofies. I highly recommend it.

Another place that is a good place for gyros and vienna dogs is a place call Red Hots off of Olive close to Chesterfield, Mo.

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RE: America's Best Hot Dogs - Fri, 04/27/07 10:14 PM
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My favorite Chicago hot dog is no-frills Gene & Jude's. Their Viennas are perfectly boiled with a short list of toppings (mustard, onion, relish, sport peppers). The fries are world class and addictive. DON'T ask for ketchup for the dog or fries. They don't carry a drop of the stuff in the place. The McDonald's next door makes money selling packets to Gene & Jude's customers.

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RE: America's Best Hot Dogs - Sun, 06/10/07 11:56 AM
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James Original Coney Islands "all the way" which are found in the Houston area. These dogs are put together in specially made Mrs. Baird's buns that are closed at the ends to contain the chili and finely chopped white onions. Definitely an old school weiner classic. If you order all the way with cheese, they will top with cheese whiz that comes out of a cheese gun. Also quite tasty!

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RE: America's Best Hot Dogs - Sun, 06/10/07 10:23 PM
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Hot Dougs in Chicago is unlike anything I've ever seen...but there's another local favorite on the south side Jim's Original at 1250 S. Union Avenue, near W. Roosevelt RD. and the Ryan...you get your fries and peppers on the side even at 3 am!

Cheers!

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RE: America's Best Hot Dogs - Sun, 09/2/07 3:21 AM
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Tex Barry's in Taunton, Ma. Have not been there in years but I can taste them now!

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RE: America's Best Hot Dogs - Tue, 09/4/07 6:20 PM
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No question about it...Gene & Judes on River Road in River Grove!!!! Drive by that place at 1 in morning and there is a line out the door. Just heard that a second location is going to open at the corner of Mill and Lake in Addison Illinois....A second close would be Gina's Drive-in, route 83 and Irving Park road in Bensenville. Years back was called Bea's...big white building, greasy fries....yeah baby...Oh yeah, you can ask for ketchup there and they won't kick you the door...enjoy

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RE: America's Best Hot Dogs - Fri, 09/7/07 9:39 PM
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Jaegerdog, I have a picture of a chicago style hot dog from Gene & Judes along with some other famous chicago style dogs for your viewing pleasure. http://www.greasefreak.com/hotdogs.html

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RE: America's Best Hot Dogs - Sat, 09/22/07 6:29 AM
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Does anyone have a copy of this article? I never saved it and epicurious seems to have removed it. thanks.

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RE: America's Best Hot Dogs - Mon, 09/24/07 11:12 PM
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Hi, I lived up in New England for 7 years in Groton Ct, and Sturbridge, Mass. I have yet to find any good hotdogs out with the exception of Nathans. I have one time when I was a kid had an Essem, I know that when cook and eaten they snap because of the casing. Does anyone know if the company has a web page or if anyone in the New England area will ship out here? Thanks

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RE: America's Best Hot Dogs - Tue, 10/30/07 1:56 AM
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Spudnut,

I'm impressed that you've been to Ted's and Nick Tahou's. I have a source that sends me Zwegel's white hots. My feeling is that you could make a great hot dog trek across the NY State Thruway from Ted's in Tonawanda to Nick Tahous (what ever happened to Zab's?), to the Old Mill in Clifton Springs, to Heid's in Liverpool, and oh poop, what's that place just weat of Utica, then ending up in Troy for the itty bitty weinies at World Famous and Uncle Sam's, if they're still there. One of the kicks in Clifton Springs is that the 'kraut is made locally. You can smell tha cabbage when you're driving down the Thruway, if the wind is right. Have the dog with hot sauce and kraut. The kraut accentuates the burn.



I grew up in Northern New Jersey, but Heid's of Liverpool is my all-time favorite

Heids of Liverpool gets my vote with Hofmann's a close second. Both places serve Hofmann's franks and coneys, which by themselves are tough to beat.

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RE: America's Best Hot Dogs - Tue, 10/30/07 2:34 AM
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Who really makes America's best hot dog? This is like asking, "Who is the best human being on the face of the earth?" The question should be, "What makes each dog distinctive?" Original Chicago style hot dogs stand shoulder to shoulder with every top quality dog in America! The original Chicago style hot dog was introduced when two young immigrants brought their frankfurter recipe from Austria/Hungary to the Chicago World's Fair in 1893. This was the beginning of the Vienna Beef Company where more than 80% of the 1,800 plus hot dog vendors proudly serve their products. When you're ready to review Chicago style hot dogs in Chicago, I'll be happy to be your personal tour guide.

Sincerely,

Mark aka chicagostyledog
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Selling Vienna Beef Maxwell Street Polish
I was told by Vienna Beef that it was an unnamed street vendor trying to give his customers a sorta full meal for their nickle invented the Chicago Style Dog (all the stuff on top). I'm assuming that slaw dogs and chili dogs have similar histories, but don't know that for a fact.

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RE: America's Best Hot Dogs - Tue, 11/20/07 1:43 AM
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I was told by Vienna Beef that it was an unnamed street vendor trying to give his customers a sorta full meal for their nickle invented the Chicago Style Dog (all the stuff on top).



The unnamed street vendor

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RE: America's Best Hot Dogs - Tue, 11/20/07 10:15 AM
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I was told by Vienna Beef that it was an unnamed street vendor trying to give his customers a sorta full meal for their nickle invented the Chicago Style Dog (all the stuff on top). I'm assuming that slaw dogs and chili dogs have similar histories, but don't know that for a fact.


Strictly a guess on my part, but since the Slaw dog seems to a Southern thing primarily, it would not surprise to find that its concoction has something to do with the South’s love affair with bar-B-Que. Slaw being a staple side item with Q, its not much of a leap to use it on other foods, burgers and chicken sandwiches with slaw are also popular here.

Here in Birmingham, most hot dog places have a "special" sauce that is usually vinegar and tomato based with myriad spices that is a close cousin to BBQ sauce, only slightly less spicy and occasionally includes finely ground meat. Sneaky Pete's Gus's Dino, Sam's, Tip Top and most other local establishments top their menu with their version of a "special" dog.

I would not surprise to find that the Chili Dog has roots similar to that as well.

But then again who knows for sure.

DD

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RE: America's Best Hot Dogs - Tue, 11/20/07 12:07 PM
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What I miss is the old fasjioned weiners on strings. As a kid my grandmother(German immagants) always had a package of butcher paper tied with string full. The street vendors and diners were everywhere. The soft poppyseed buns with the vienna sausage, pickle spear, onion and tomato. Growing up in the 60's I missed the nickle dog but I still remember buying a dog, and a fountain soda for my quarter allowance( a little left over change and I got fries too!). I also remember the little shack on Diversy just off Cicero. I tried his hot Tamale one time. I always dreamed about it(they were huge). It took my whole quarter(I hated it-another childhood fantasy disappointed, lol).

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RE: America's Best Hot Dogs - Tue, 11/20/07 1:49 PM
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After posting I had an appetite for a Slaw dog. I just got back from Salem’s (locally famous long before Craig Kilborn extolled its virtues on Late Night). Ahhhh, I am quite happy now.

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RE: America's Best Hot Dogs - Tue, 11/20/07 1:58 PM
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Dixie, where you located?

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RE: America's Best Hot Dogs - Tue, 11/20/07 2:21 PM
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What I miss is the old fashioned weiners on strings. As a kid my grandmother(German immagants) always had a package of butcher paper tied with string full.


Bill Geist is holding is a Vienna Beef, half pound, natural casing, hot dog. These are tied end dogs. They're a commercial foodservice product available in ten pound cases with four dogs to a link. I'm a west sider (Roosevelt & Keeler) circa 1947. My Lithuanian/Polish grandparents would take me shopping on Maxwell street on Saturday's. It was a five minute street car ride from our apartment to the Vienna Beef Factory Store on Halsted, near Maxwell Street.

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RE: America's Best Hot Dogs - Tue, 07/22/08 10:59 PM
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We have a Coney Island in Crestview Florida that is out of this world!!! (that should also be on this list :))

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RE: America's Best Hot Dogs - Fri, 07/25/08 7:37 PM
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I tried to get to the top 10 list at Epi magazine and could not find it any suggestions
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RE: America's Best Hot Dogs - Fri, 07/25/08 11:16 PM
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csd, my grandfather owned k hanfling shoe soles on roosevelt and kedzie and his brother owned a hat store at roosevelt and kedvale area back then, my dads warehouse was in the hood off ogden and kedzie by howland gramar school

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RE: America's Best Hot Dogs - Fri, 07/25/08 11:45 PM
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We have a Coney Island in Crestview Florida that is out of this world!!! (that should also be on this list :))


I owned a business in Milligan FL years ago and would go into Crestview for Dogs (!986-87). There was a joint next to the railroad tracks that sold coneys 3 for a buck, with sauce and burgers smothered with coney sauce. Is that the place you're talking about???

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RE: America's Best Hot Dogs - Mon, 08/18/08 12:13 PM
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After several visits, I personally am ready to declare that Super Duper Weenie in Fairfiled, Ct. is the best hot dog place I have been to. The spicy Georgia Red Hot is spicy hot dog perfection. Gary's home made relishes are incredible additions,with a slight personal nod to the hot relish over the sweet one. The other not to be missed item on the menu - the Mighty Ity. Not a hot dog but a sausage sandwich with peppers and onions on a portugese roll. If an egg over easy could be added to that sandwich, would be breakfast perfection.

With Nathans taking the silver medal in the hot dog Olympic challenge, Blackies, on the strength of its pepper relish, which is outstandingly spicy and available by the jar, takes the hot dog bronze.

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RE: America's Best Hot Dogs - Tue, 08/19/08 7:47 AM
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Just got back from Boston and a series of Red Sox Games. I still love those Fenway Franks. If you ever go, try the $1 Fenway Franks at the Lower Depths Tap Room near the Ball Park. 476 Commonwealth Ave.

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RE: America's Best Hot Dogs - Wed, 08/27/08 10:39 AM
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i think it is interesting topic.i really enjoy it .i want to know more about it.
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RE: America's Best Hot Dogs - Wed, 08/27/08 10:43 AM
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hi i am kevin i think it is interesting subject.

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Re:America's Best Hot Dogs - Sat, 05/2/09 11:08 AM
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i llove hot dogs..i have lived in the metropolitan ny area my entire life ...i have had the impossibly great hot dogs of the original nathans..i have sampled the perfect hot dogs at katz's.....the fried dogs at rutt's hut are really good...but i go to maine every summer and my best friend of 45 years makes fun of me becauase the food i rave about is flo's hot dogs...they are steamed to the perct crispness the buns are warm and the concepyually disgusting combination to a red blooded new yourker of their sauce an a strip of mayo really works....i enjoy these dogs as much as any i have ever had

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