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ellen4641

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new A.C. Deli,"The NY Diner" (UPDATED 3-17-2010 .. DELI no more: Good riddance! Sun, 11/23/08 10:37 PM (permalink)
Today I took a very short Sunday drive; 10 miles into AC.
Wanted to give a 2nd chance to the NY DINER
( I went there once before and was served brisket that looked like corned beef!)
NY DINER; note the blue jitney in the street (since 1915 !)
The AC Hilton Casino is on the left.
The very upscale Ocean Club high rise condos are on the left

This place has been open a few months or so.
It is located on the ground floor of a dumpy looking motel.
NY DINER, Atlantic City

It may say "dinner" on their fascade, but they are closing at 3 pm;
owner said to me that they plan to stay open longer when summer comes. I believe true delis should be open at least till 7:30-8 pm, like the Downbeach Deli in Margate.

I called on the phone during my nice walk I was having on the boardwalk. Told him my take out order, and he said it would be about 20 minutes. That sounded like too long just for a couple of items.

Here's my "#5 Combo"(l-r Roast Beef, Turkey, Corned Beef,and Pastrami

It was $13.99 (almost Carnegie Deli prices, and we're not even in NY)
And it would've looked even nicer with cole slaw on it.
Did'nt realize that would be an extra 50 CENTS, to go "all the way"..
so I had a "non cole slaw" sandwich when I unwrapped it at home.
I'd personally rather have them price the sandwich at $14.50, and just include the darned cole slaw....
NY DINER menu, "regular" sandwiches, like pastrami are $8.99
And the flyer on the left makes the sandwiches sound SO succulent!

Here's an ever closer up view.
My verdicts are as follows: Roast beef had nice flavor, but too many big GLOBS of FAT! Corned beef was too light and "goyish".
Turkey was real good. Pastrami was better than the corned beef; we'll leave it at that.

The owner, Greg, said they use National Brand pastrami and corned beef (a "slicer" joint, Baah Ben)
However, when I asked him if he roasted his own turkey and roast beef, he said YES.
Greg lastly ran the STAGE DELI (in the Taj Majal Casino), that deli recently closed. I asked him why , and he said "My lease was up"...
I think I might've asked one question to many, or had too many deli procedure comments, cause he was'nt quite as nice at the end.
(when my items were finally ready to take out)
I said "hope to see you again", and his response was "alright".
He's kind of hot and cold, I guess.
Unlike Irving's Deli in Livingston, which makes you feel so welcome from start to finish! Good closure is important!

Here's the 2nd item I took out...the OPEN FACE HOT TURKEY, $8.99

My verdict?!? The turkey was really good !! However, the pedestrian gravy ruined it !! Is it that difficult to make homemade gravy?!?
I run into way too many of these "mixes"; they all taste the same!

I was almost grateful when the turkey gravy ran out!

The portion was a real nice size. Actually, tomorrow I'm going to drive over to the small local "Tilton Market" in Northfield, cause they sell containers of good homemade gravy!!
(I'm going to supplement this turkey dish!!)

It was a nice day, compared to the rest of the week...
high of 42 degrees, but SUNNY and NO WIND.
Here's some pics I took while strolling on the boardwalk
AC beach , it ain't summer anymore!!

Trump Plaza casino on left, Caesars in middle, then Bally's...
the "Pier at Caesar's" upscale shopping and restaurants is that green building on the right. There is a Phillips Seafood (out of Baltimore) in there, etc...
It's like a "Forum Shops" in Vegas...

Looking south, the Tropicana Casino is the tower on the right.
The red brick building is the RITZ Condos. 10 years ago, one could've bought a studio apt. there (complete with a murphy bed) for $30,000! Then it shot up to $150,000. The RITZ used to be a hotel during the glory days of AC, way back.
In the left background are high rise condos, a good section of AC.
The slanted building on the right is the Ocean Club condos, very nice

Playland is looking pretty worn out, huh?

more AC Boardwalk....lots of the storefronts got totally redone..
<message edited by ellen4641 on Thu, 03/18/10 1:27 AM>
 
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    Twinwillow

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    RE: new Atlantic City deli; MORE PICS added! Sun, 11/23/08 10:47 PM (permalink)
    Ellen, where's the beef?
     
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      ellen4641

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      RE: new Atlantic City deli; MORE PICS added! Sun, 11/23/08 11:05 PM (permalink)
      quote:
      Originally posted by Twinwillow

      Ellen, where's the beef?

      And what, no PICKLE?!?
      It would've been nice if they threw a pickle in the bag...
       
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        Baah Ben

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        RE: new Atlantic City deli; MORE PICS added! Sun, 11/23/08 11:43 PM (permalink)
        Nice pictures of AC Ellen...Thanks..

        The roast beef looks like he did do that himself on premises. There is gristle on the outer edge...Actually in parts deeper into the round than just the edge. Harder to tell on the turkey if he roasted a breast on premises.

        Ellen -Do any of the hotels have a branch of a serious NY Deli like the Stage, etc. I know the Carnegie tried many, many years ago (in the 80's) and it did not work out. You never mention pastrami in AC that I recall so I just thought I'd ask for an update. What is your favorite dining spot in AC in the casinos? I have not checked out the dining options in AC in a long time. I think I'll do that...

        Hey, you know when you drive in to AC coming off the parkway, the right I believe there are a few hotels in that cove area? It's been a long time, but is that area now considered more popular with gamblers? I don't remember the name of the hotel that was there..maybe there are several now?
         
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          RE: new Atlantic City deli; MORE PICS added! Mon, 11/24/08 7:39 AM (permalink)
          My last time in AC was 1969; it did not look like that. I walked into a pretty dark bar in the early afternoon and thought one of the guys sitting at a table with some good looking ladies looked familiar. When he spoke I recognized him, Ray Charles was negotiating a business deal with the ladies.

          Ellen, you do bring back some memories with your posts.
           
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            RE: new Atlantic City deli; MORE PICS added! Mon, 11/24/08 8:09 AM (permalink)
            Ellen,

            This looks like a place I'll avoid. I have fond memories of the Chelsea section of AC from my teenage years including The Flamingo.

            What is your favorite deli in the AC area?

            Have you been to the new Teplitzky's in the Chelsea Hotel?

            http://thechelsea-ac.com/

            http://www.phillymag.com/restaurants/detail/teplitzkys


             
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              RE: new Atlantic City deli; MORE PICS added! Mon, 11/24/08 8:33 AM (permalink)
              Ellen, Too bad the food wasn't as good as your pics. I hope someday you get a good Deli in AC.

              Also, hard to believe....NO PICKLE!

              Edit: Is that Lee checking in below me? You're late, don't let it happen again.
               
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                RE: new Atlantic City deli; MORE PICS added! Mon, 11/24/08 8:36 AM (permalink)
                Ellen...how was the rye bread...it looks like a regular commercial brand????
                 
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                  RE: new Atlantic City deli; MORE PICS added! Mon, 11/24/08 2:14 PM (permalink)
                  quote:
                  Originally posted by Baah Ben
                  Ellen -Do any of the hotels have a branch of a serious NY Deli like the Stage, etc. What is your favorite dining spot in AC in the casinos?

                  No branches of real delis in the AC Casinos, but they could sure use Harold down here!!!
                  (the Stage Deli at the Taj Mahal Casino just closed a few months or so, but it was only a shell of it's flagship NYC Stage location....
                  (of course, you and I both know that the Stage is no match for the Carnegie, anyway!)

                  A majority of the AC casino restaurants are overpriced, as most guests are dining there using their "comp" dollars/points...
                  their so-called "free meal" from playing craps, BJ, slot machines, whatever; of course, nothings' totally free, and the tip is not included in the comp.
                  For instance, when my friend Scott used to take his gal pal to one of those gourmet rooms, the tip alone would be like 60 bucks, cause the gal wanted the fancy wine.

                  I've enjoyed some good meals at CARMINE'S inside the Tropicana.
                  (their original location is in NYC). The prices may sound crazy, but the portions are enough for 2 or 3 people.
                  For instance, the garlic bread is $12.50
                  And the chicken scarpiello wings are to die for!! (about $18.95)
                  (I always say "extra crispy) They're in a buttery scampi type sauce, with olive oil, etc.
                  I've even just did a few "take outs" on those wings on my way home from dealing.
                  Their best deal is a chicken cutlet sandwich, (and a handful of other choices) with a side of caesar or regular salad) for $10.50
                  And I've enjoyed the regular chicken scarpiello , the entree.
                  Also liked the big $75.00 porterhouse steak, with peppers and onions. (Still not as good as those Peter Luger type porterhouses, though)
                  That Carmine's steak has got some competition , as the PALM Steakhouse is right there inside the Trop, too! (their entrances are about 20 feet apart!) I've had mostly good experiences at the Palm, but I don't know why their rolls in that basket taste so stale, though) ....
                  But lately, I'm real satisfied with the Longhorn down the street; (not in a casino) somehow the tastes have great flavor for only about $24.00 for the big porterhouse.

                  I'm trying to be more careful about those $75.00 steaks, though, as I just finally had the courage to look at all my stocks and mutual fun and of course,quite a bloodbath had occured these last few months

                  I've also had a great "market salad" with mustard grain dressing at "The Plate" a new pretty coffee shop inside the Taj Mahal.
                  And their homemade potato chips were delicious.
                  The cheesesteak spring rolls were not so good.
                  However, I'll usually just wind up there with friends who invite me along on those comps. It's not a place that's really that worth it to go to otherwise.

                  There is now a PATSY'S inside the AC Hilton...their original location is in NYC; apparently Frank Sinatra used to love Patsy's.
                  I'll try that one sometime, too...
                   
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                    RE: new Atlantic City deli; MORE PICS added! Mon, 11/24/08 2:22 PM (permalink)
                    quote:
                    Originally posted by acer2x
                    What is your favorite deli in the AC area?
                    Have you been to the new Teplitzky's in the Chelsea Hotel

                    No favorite delis of mine in the AC area...don't wish to award that distinction .. very few choices to begin with, and the ones that would've been in "contention" are not consistent enough for me.
                    Downbeach Deli in Margate is decent for certain things.

                    No, I have'nt tried Teplitzky's yet. They are trying to appeal to the South Beach Miami type of crowd, with their art deco look.
                    They are part of the Chelsea Hotel, formerly a Howard Johnson's.
                    It's been recreated into a boutique hotel.
                    However, I looked inside Teplitzky's for the first time yesterday, as it is right across the street from the NY Diner.
                    It was PACKED (with a stylish, yuppie looking crowd)
                    It was Sunday, 12 noon, though,and the weekend visitors are there.
                    Here's TEPLITZKY'S menu:


                    NOTE: the minestone soup has both a MATZOH BALL and a MEATBALL in it!

                    It's not a cheap place; the brisket platter is $19.00, for instance.
                    A hot dog with french fries and beans will set you back $9.00.
                    But, hey, it's a Kosher dog!
                    You want 3 eggs, bacon and hash browns? 9 bucks..
                    1/2 a roasted chicken for $18 goes against my religion.
                    (unless it's something extra, extra special, like with potatoes, onions, peppers, a Murphy style chicken, or special Italian style
                    Teplitzky's closes at 3 pm, too. There ARE some items on the menu I want to try, though! (like the burger, etc) I'd love to do a "take out" after work, but they are closed already at that time.
                     
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                      RE: new Atlantic City deli; MORE PICS added! Mon, 11/24/08 2:30 PM (permalink)
                      quote:
                      Originally posted by leethebard

                      Ellen...how was the rye bread...it looks like a regular commercial brand????

                      Yeah, Lee, you're like 1/2 a day late! (LOL) You're slipping!
                      Rye bread was "okay"...you're right, it's a regular commercial brand, "Ginsburg's Rye Bread", a VERY local brand, made right here in AC.
                      In fact, if I so desired, I could eat that rye bread to my hearts content, as they serve it 24 hours a day in our free employee cafeteria in the casino. (along with Ginsburgs bagels)
                       
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                        ellen4641

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                        RE: new Atlantic City deli; MORE PICS added! Mon, 11/24/08 2:47 PM (permalink)
                        quote:
                        Originally posted by John A

                        My last time in AC was 1969; it did not look like that..

                        B.C. (before casinos), places like the 500 Club were real popular; there was live music till late, late in the morning, Sinatra, etc.
                        (now it's mostly all about the casinos......but A.C. was slipping so much from it's glory, something had to be done....)

                        Glad I brought back some memories for you, John...
                        A.C really improved the main corrider into town...(at the end of the AC Expressway) Used to be a horrible looking public housing project.
                        Now it is all landscaped, and there is a huge outdoor outlet mall !!!
                         
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                          acer2x

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                          RE: new Atlantic City deli; MORE PICS added! Mon, 11/24/08 2:52 PM (permalink)
                          My favorite food memories of AC are:

                          1. Kornblau's Deli for corned beef and pastrami
                          2. Lou's in Ventnor for open faced hot roast beef with gravy and french fries
                          3. Hi Hat Joe's on the boardwalk in Chelsea for hot dogs and fruit drinks
                          4. Baltimore Grill for pizza
                           
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                            ellen4641

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                            RE: new Atlantic City deli; MORE PICS added! Mon, 11/24/08 3:05 PM (permalink)
                            quote:
                            Originally posted by acer2x

                            My favorite food memories of AC are:

                            1. Kornblau's Deli for corned beef and pastrami
                            2. Lou's in Ventnor for open faced hot roast beef with gravy and french fries
                            3. Hi Hat Joe's on the boardwalk in Chelsea for hot dogs and fruit drinks
                            4. Baltimore Grill for pizza

                            Well, at least we've got your #4 pick still in business!
                            I wish I could've been in AC to experience Kornblau's, (wonder what year it closed; I've definitely heard about it ...)
                            Never heard of Hi Hat Joe's; sounds intriguing , though!
                            I do miss the "DIP STIX" that had a few locations on the AC boardwalk. They used Hebrew National hot dogs and specialized in corn dogs! They've been gone since sometime in the 1980's, though..

                            I never cared for that Baltimore Grill, as their sauce tasted like it was'nt the real thing, to me... but, it's been a bunch of years; perhaps I'll give them a 3rd chance.
                            My friend Scott loves the place, though...and it's cheap, too.

                            Regarding LOU'S DELI...when I first moved to the AC area , in 1993, I had a 4th floor walk-up tiny studio apt ($495 a month), right on Nashville Ave in Ventnor; and Lou's was on the corner of Nashville and Ventnor Ave.
                            I was about only 100 away from LOU'S...I used to do a lot of take out from them. But even so, I was often told that it used to be a lot better in previous years. Yes, that hot roast beef was good.
                            CIRCA 2008: Not only is Lou's out of business, but the building was torn down; nothing has replaced it yet.
                             
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                              ellen4641

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                              RE: new Atlantic City deli; MORE PICS added! Mon, 11/24/08 5:12 PM (permalink)
                              quote:
                              Originally posted by Baah Ben
                              Hey, you know when you drive in to AC coming off the parkway, the right I believe there are a few hotels in that cove area? It's been a long time, but is that area now considered more popular with gamblers?

                              No, that area never got more popular with gamblers; in fact, it's probably even less popular now, if anything..
                              It's very blighted there, with mostly fleabag motels..
                              (the Route 40/Black Horse Pike Corridor)
                              That is the area where the bodies of 4 prositutes were found (in a swamp behind the motels) a couple of years ago. The killer has never been found , not yet, anyway.

                              With the exception of a few decent Route 40 motels, like the Hampton Inn and the Red Roof Inn, (which are off to the right, as you come into town), the other places are serious fleabag joints.

                              There's been some talk in recent years of revamping the area; so far, it's just talk, though...
                               
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                                David_NYC

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                                RE: new Atlantic City deli; MORE PICS added! Mon, 11/24/08 5:16 PM (permalink)
                                 
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                                  RE: new Atlantic City deli; MORE PICS added! Mon, 11/24/08 5:16 PM (permalink)
                                  I'm not gonna go there. I've got the sneaking feeling they won't be around long. And oh, that motel! If I had a nickel for everytime I've passed that motel, I'd never have to work again! The food looks so uninteresting. Now I know why we usually just eat at Tony's Baltimore Grill when we go to A.C.!

                                  I saw that you mentioned Lou's in Ventnor, That was once owned by a very close friend of my brother Fred's, Barry Seidel.
                                   
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                                    Baah Ben

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                                    RE: new Atlantic City deli; MORE PICS added! Tue, 11/25/08 2:12 AM (permalink)
                                    Ellen - Thanks for the AC update. I did see there was a Patsy's and a Stage when I did a search for places.
                                     
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                                      ellen4641

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                                      RE: new Atlantic City deli; MORE PICS added! Tue, 11/25/08 8:49 PM (permalink)
                                      quote:
                                      Originally posted by harriet1954
                                      I'm not gonna go there. I've got the sneaking feeling they won't be around long. The food looks so uninteresting.

                                      It seems like they are more like a breakfast/coffee shop, masquerading as a deli..IMO, a true deli should not close 3 pm., etc
                                      Yes, uninteresting/ UNINSPIRING food...

                                      But so I won't get sued, I will say I LOVED the turkey!
                                      (except for the non-homemade gravy)
                                      However, the next morning, yesterday, I drove over to the Tilton Market to buy some of their good homemade turkey gravy!
                                      TILTON MARKET, Northfield, NJ (family owned; only location)

                                      I'd only been there once before, a few months ago.
                                      They close 6 pm or 7 pm, depending, so they were shut already on my other few attempts. It's only about 2 miles from my condo.
                                      Great assortment of side dishes and HOMEMADE TURKEY GRAVY !

                                      Since I was off all day yesterday, Monday, I had plenty of time to oogle over their other side dishes, as well.
                                      Bought some killer BREAD STUFFING (sans sausage!)

                                      Look at all those MARSHMALLOWS on the sweet potato casserole
                                      TILTON MARKET , Northfield (10 miles west of A.C.)
                                      SIDE DISHES

                                      Now THIS is what I'm talking about ! Best store made gravy I've ever had! I used it to SUPPLEMENT that leftover turkey from the A.C. deli!

                                      TILTON MARKET, looking west

                                      Their deli is mostly just Dietz and Watson sliced stuff, with a few hot prepared items. Plus a great selection of A.C. area breads and rolls from various bakeries. I bought an Italian loaf from Colandra's, that was out of this world.

                                      I don't know how they manage to make all that homemade gravy!
                                      I mean, where do they get all the turkeys from?????
                                      They do have a catering menu, so maybe there are lots of cooked turkeys continued being ordered on a regular basis?
                                      (cause the only turkey behind the deli case that I saw was that Dietz and Watson stuff)
                                      Their side dishes are way better than anything I've had in the majors

                                      This place deserves a "shout out" !!!

                                       
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                                        ellen4641

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                                        RE: new Atlantic City deli; MORE PICS added! Tue, 11/25/08 8:50 PM (permalink)
                                        quote:
                                        Originally posted by Baah Ben

                                        Ellen - Thanks for the AC update. I did see there was a Patsy's and a Stage when I did a search for places.

                                        There IS a Patsy's, and there WAS a Stage, as it went under a few months or so back.
                                        The guy who was leasing the restaurant space, Greg, is now running this new NY Diner Deli...
                                         
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                                          RE: new Atlantic City deli; MORE PICS added! Tue, 11/25/08 9:22 PM (permalink)
                                          Ellen, Looks like some good "Heat n' Eat" stuff for when you're in a pinch.

                                           
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                                            RE: new Atlantic City deli; MORE PICS added! Tue, 11/25/08 9:29 PM (permalink)
                                            I guess things have changed since the last time I was in Atlantic City. I didn't see the diving mule, and I guess Sinatra doesn't perform at the Steel Pier these days, either.
                                             
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                                              RE: new Atlantic City deli; MORE PICS added! Tue, 11/25/08 9:43 PM (permalink)
                                              Lou: You should have seen the Atlantic Ocean back then.
                                              (Burt Lancaster, "Atlantic City," 1980)
                                               
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                                                RE: new Atlantic City deli; MORE PICS added! Tue, 11/25/08 9:55 PM (permalink)
                                                God, I miss South Jersey! And I miss shopping at Tilton Market...used to go there all the time when I lived in Smithville. Those beach pics gave me pangs. Although I won't be living in Jersey, in a few short days, I will be moving to Easton, and will be much closer to the beach than I am now. And I am excited about that!
                                                 
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                                                  Twinwillow

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                                                  RE: new Atlantic City deli; MORE PICS added! Tue, 11/25/08 10:04 PM (permalink)
                                                  As usual, great report, Ellen!
                                                   
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                                                    John A

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                                                    RE: new Atlantic City deli; MORE PICS added! Wed, 11/26/08 8:24 AM (permalink)
                                                    Those side dishes at the Tilton Market are killer, especially that vegetable cassarole and the stuffed potatoes.
                                                     
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                                                      leethebard

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                                                      RE: new Atlantic City deli; MORE PICS added! Wed, 11/26/08 8:35 AM (permalink)
                                                      Tilton Market looks great...and I agree,if looks are anything, that gravy sure looks great!!!
                                                       
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                                                        doggydaddy

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                                                        RE: new Atlantic City deli; MORE PICS added! Wed, 11/26/08 8:43 AM (permalink)


                                                        The food looks great, but the gas prices look even better....

                                                        mark
                                                         
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                                                          leethebard

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                                                          RE: new Atlantic City deli; MORE PICS added! Wed, 11/26/08 8:47 AM (permalink)
                                                          Heck,I'm sure it's a liot cheaper than that now...we're around $1.60 a few miles up the Garden State Parkway!!!
                                                           
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                                                            Mosca

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                                                            RE: new Atlantic City deli; MORE PICS added! Wed, 11/26/08 10:12 AM (permalink)
                                                            Thanks Ellen.

                                                            We always enjoyed Beachball's at Resorts; they would put out the pickle tray, with half sours, sours, pickled green tomatoes, etc. I'm sure it was a slicer joint, but we liked it, especially compared to the horrible buffets.
                                                             
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